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Old 02-18-2010, 08:43 PM   #151
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Oh, then you have the wrong person... I'm married, mom isn't really here, I hardly spend any money, and I voted for Ron Paul, and I'm not liberal in relation to the government.

I assume you think so because you see me in Obama threads... it's not Obama, it's right wing idiots like 12clicks, they're just easy to fuck with.
Thank you for being man enough to say that! I will now be man enough to say that I was wrong about you and I apologize!
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Old 02-18-2010, 08:43 PM   #152
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did god set us up the computers?
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There is a common thread in all religions from peoples from all parts of the world. Maybe based on a common memory.

Idiots like "the doc" don't have enough brains to understand the question, let alone contemplate the answer
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Thank you for being man enough to say that! I will now be man enough to say that I was wrong about you and I apologize!
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He begs for governmental handouts and wants his betters to pay for it.he's the worst kind of liberal. Regardless of what he says
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Santa Claus can fly around the world in one night delivering millions of gifts to children using a sleigh and flying reindeer.

Science can not.

Something to think about...
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He begs for governmental handouts and wants his betters to pay for it.he's the worst kind of liberal. Regardless of what he says
I judge every man individually! As Martin Luther King said, not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character. There are far more black dudes on this site who I would welcome into my home than white ones!
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man can create test tube babies, clone animals, split atoms, alter genes. Science understands so much yet we can't create life out of the bare elements in the way that science believes it happened. Nor do we have a clue how to do it.
The spark of life is beyond our grasp.
something to think about.
Life evolved over millions of years - not one year not 100 years but millions and millions of years. Your question is redundant at this stage of evolution as we have no means of existing and thus carrying out scientific observation for such great lengths of time.

Not to mention the composition of the atmosphere was different, the water chemistry was different, the weather patterns were different - everything was different.

Your question is redundant, poorly thought out and not very thought provoking at all.
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I can't. I watched him a couple times on HBO and realized he was trash. I have no time for trash.

I can happily disagree with people who have a different opinion than myself but I have no time for liars and people who twist rhe truth.
Right. Just like Michael Moore is a liar, except conservatards can never point out exactly HOW and WHEN he lied. It's funny. You can sit there and watch yourself, as a conservatard, absolutely eviscerated by Jon Stewart or Colbert, Moore or Maher. Obviously intelligent, knowledgeable people. You know for a fact that everything they say is the truth, and correct, yet your sense of your own identity is so obstinately wrapped in this 'being a conservatard' thing that you refuse to listen. Your only defense is to hate them personally and blow off anything they have to say, any way you can. To respond with this fake huffiness, as if what you're being told is so stupid you can't possibly be bothered with it, even though you KNOW - you KNOW - it's not wrong. It's not stupid. It's the truth, and the truth is known to have a liberal bias.

Now go ahead and ask me to prove Rush Limbaugh, Michelle Malkin, Anne Coulter or ANY other conservative commentator is a liar. Please.
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He begs for governmental handouts and wants his betters to pay for it.he's the worst kind of liberal. Regardless of what he says
TheDoc could go on my payroll tomorrow.
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Welcome home from the day job. Take off your paper hat and listen up.
Scum like yourself trash people for their beliefs based on the faulty BELIEF that science will one day prove religion wrong.
Now off to bed! The beep of the drive thru waits for no man
Jesus Christ Ronnie, how many times does science have to prove religion wrong before you notice that science has, in fact, proved religion wrong over and over and over already? Have you walked off the edge of the flat earth lately? Watched a beautiful sunset as the Sun revolves to the other side of the earth maybe? Cast out any of those demons that are causing all the diseases of the world?

Why is it more important to you to be a conservative than it is to be actually, factually correct about things?

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your question doesn't actually have a religious answer.
It's all science, baby!
Seems like alot of science and history I learned to be truth in school, is now disproven and not accepted as truth.. very disheartening. Pluto for example
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Seems like alot of science and history I learned to be truth in school, is now disproven and not accepted as truth.. very disheartening. Pluto for example
yeah... and who disproved it? Scientists. Science is not a conclusion, it is a process of discovery.

Seriously. Are you really this retarded?
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with every post you make, you embarrass yourself in front of intelligent people.


Intelligent people believe in Evolution,
ignoramuses beleive in "Inteligent Design"
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http://www.gallup.com/poll/114544/da...evolution.aspx


February 11, 2009
On Darwin?s Birthday, Only 4 in 10 Believe in Evolution
Belief drops to 24% among frequent church attenders
by Frank Newport

PRINCETON, NJ -- On the eve of the 200th anniversary of Charles Darwin's birth, a new Gallup Poll shows that only 39% of Americans say they "believe in the theory of evolution," while a quarter say they do not believe in the theory, and another 36% don't have an opinion either way. These attitudes are strongly related to education and, to an even greater degree, religiosity.

Ron,
what is the name of the college you attended to?
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hmmm makes you wonder how those people at least 6500 years ago knew about planets before we did less than 100 years ago. Why didn't I read about that in the indoctrination history books?
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Evolution Less Accepted in U.S. Than Other Western Countries, Study Finds
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...evolution.html

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Right. Just like Michael Moore is a liar, except conservatards can never point out exactly HOW and WHEN he lied. It's funny. You can sit there and watch yourself, as a conservatard, absolutely eviscerated by Jon Stewart or Colbert, Moore or Maher. Obviously intelligent, knowledgeable people. You know for a fact that everything they say is the truth, and correct, yet your sense of your own identity is so obstinately wrapped in this 'being a conservatard' thing that you refuse to listen. Your only defense is to hate them personally and blow off anything they have to say, any way you can. To respond with this fake huffiness, as if what you're being told is so stupid you can't possibly be bothered with it, even though you KNOW - you KNOW - it's not wrong. It's not stupid. It's the truth, and the truth is known to have a liberal bias.

Now go ahead and ask me to prove Rush Limbaugh, Michelle Malkin, Anne Coulter or ANY other conservative commentator is a liar. Please.
Uh, give me a team of comedy writers and I'd do a better job eviscerating your leftist heros than I already do.
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Jesus Christ Ronnie, how many times does science have to prove religion wrong before you notice that science has, in fact, proved religion wrong over and over and over already? Have you walked off the edge of the flat earth lately? Watched a beautiful sunset as the Sun revolves to the other side of the earth maybe? Cast out any of those demons that are causing all the diseases of the world?

Why is it more important to you to be a conservative than it is to be actually, factually correct about things?
Come on, diglet, claiming that disproved common knowledge of the day was religious knowledge doesn't make you enlightened or intelligent, it makes you a putz who can't make a real argument on the subject.


And, oh, get back to me when science starts creating life
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ignoramuses beleive in "Inteligent Design"
Yeah, and the smart ones got out of this business early.
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He could go on anyone's payroll.
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Why are we having this argument? You cannot articulate faith...
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Why are we having this argument? You cannot articulate faith...
I merely posed a thought. The usual monkeys are now throwing shit
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Yeah, and the smart ones got out of this business early.

Ron, after you take home 8 digits in one year, you'll understand the smart ones.

'til then, "spread the word, spread the word..."

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Ron, what schools did you go to after you finished High School?
You did finish the High School, right?
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..... it makes you a putz who can't make a real argument on the subject.
...and your smart argument is:
Because we still didn't find out in the last 100 years, it's GOT TO BE GOD!

How do you call this argument?
Intelligent? Enlightened? Putzy? Ignorant?

Please do tell.

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...and your smart argument is:
Because we still didn't find out in the last 100 years, it's GOT TO BE GOD!

How do you call this argument?
Intelligent? Enlightened? Putzy? Ignorant?

Please do tell.

Nothing much happening on the wine boards today, I am all yours today and
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Bad timing serge, I'm almost to the airport and not even you can keep the rabble roused until my return.
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"If you fly and run away
you live to fight another day"
;)

Hit me on ICQ when you back and ready to continue our discussion.
Brush upon your Quantum Chemistry, Quantum Physics on the plane, so we could talk on equal terms. I promise I'll brush upon my Old Testament while you are away.
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He could go on anyone's payroll.
Exactly! I'm good enough everyone wants me.... Guys like Dig dream of having me on staff, guys like you dream about just being me and having my life....

It's all good, I kind of like having the biggest cock on the block.
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you live to fight another day"
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Hit me on ICQ when you back and ready to continue our discussion.
Brush upon your Quantum Chemistry, Quantum Physics on the plane, so we could talk on equal terms. I promise I'll brush upon my Old Testament while you are away.
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That would be a convo I'd love to be a fly on the wall for LOL. I miss you!! :P
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LM, "He'll be back!"

I'll wait for Ron and pray for him.....
Hopefully Ron is flying out of the country for a change to expand his horizons...for a change.
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Can you respond to my wall of text please 12clicks. I made sound points and feel as if my work has been greatly unappreciated.
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Bad timing serge, I'm almost to the airport and not even you can keep the rabble roused until my return.
you sound more and more like your husband everyday...







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Anybody here believes in angels?

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man can create test tube babies, clone animals, split atoms, alter genes. Science understands so much yet we can't create life out of the bare elements in the way that science believes it happened. Nor do we have a clue how to do it.
The spark of life is beyond our grasp.
something to think about.
I don't see a question here as per the thread title? What is the question?
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Sheeet, I gave Ron the wrong books to read on the plane.

Ron,
please ICQ me AFTER you get yourself familiar with
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenesis
and basic theories.

May I suggest two courses in bio-chemistry to help you out?

After you are done, you'll never start threads like you did ever again.
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I cannot imagine where the profit would be in discovering how we got here, only how to alter what already is or to create what will be. As soon as someone can figure out how to profit from answering how we got here, we will begin to figure it out.

Science, like everything else in our society, is profit driven. The research that would be required to answer this question will not come with a price tag of zero.

It's actually quite sad.
So nasa is profit driven? If it is they are failing miserably at it...


not all science is for entrepreneurs... making some money from it helps though.
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man can create test tube babies, clone animals, split atoms, alter genes. Science understands so much yet we can't create life out of the bare elements in the way that science believes it happened. Nor do we have a clue how to do it.
The spark of life is beyond our grasp.
something to think about.
So the way to explain it is to say that God created it then? It seems that very argument is also fallible. It is reasonable to say "We don't know"... it is unreasonable to say "God did it and the Bible said so... so it's fact".
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we can't make gold, yet we know it exists and is created. If your theory is "god" made it, simply because you can't figure it out, you are an idiot.
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we can't make gold, yet we know it exists and is created. If your theory is "god" made it, simply because you can't figure it out, you are an idiot.
We can make gold, they can make diamonds, they have patents on the machines, xerox owns the one on the diamond machine. They can duplicate any object/element if they know the process it takes to create it or have the mathematical pattern of the object.
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We can make gold, they can make diamonds, they have patents on the machines, xerox owns the one on the diamond machine. They can duplicate any object/element if they know the process it takes to create it or have the mathematical pattern of the object.
Unrelated to the religious argument, is it really true we can make gold?

I know we can make diamonds, but I don't think gold can be made synthetically.

Maybe... but this is the first I'm hearing about it.

I just read this online...

Gold is an element, as is carbon. Graphite is a form of carbon. Diamond is a form of carbon. Graphite and diamond are two different arrangements of carbon atoms. We can reform carbon from graphite into diamond, but there is nothing to reform to make gold.

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In a nuclear reactor gold can be manufactured by irradiation of platinum or mercury. Since platinum is more expensive than gold, platinum is economically unsuitable as a raw material. Only the mercury isotope Hg-196, which occurs with a frequency of 0.15% in natural mercury, can be converted to gold by neutron capture, and following K+- decay into Au-197 with slow neutrons. Other mercury isotopes are converted when irradiated with slow neutrons into one another or formed mercury isotopes, which beta decay into thallium. Using fast neutrons, the mercury isotope Hg-198, which is contained to 9.97% in natural mercury, can be converted by splitting off a neutron and becoming Hg-197, which then disintegrates to stable gold. This reaction, however, possesses a smaller activation cross-section and is feasible only with un-moderated reactors. It is also possible to eject several neutrons with very high energy into the other mercury isotopes in order to get the Hg-197. However such high-energy neutrons can be produced only by particle accelerators.
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In a nuclear reactor gold can be manufactured by irradiation of platinum or mercury. Since platinum is more expensive than gold, platinum is economically unsuitable as a raw material. Only the mercury isotope Hg-196, which occurs with a frequency of 0.15% in natural mercury, can be converted to gold by neutron capture, and following K+- decay into Au-197 with slow neutrons. Other mercury isotopes are converted when irradiated with slow neutrons into one another or formed mercury isotopes, which beta decay into thallium. Using fast neutrons, the mercury isotope Hg-198, which is contained to 9.97% in natural mercury, can be converted by splitting off a neutron and becoming Hg-197, which then disintegrates to stable gold. This reaction, however, possesses a smaller activation cross-section and is feasible only with un-moderated reactors. It is also possible to eject several neutrons with very high energy into the other mercury isotopes in order to get the Hg-197. However such high-energy neutrons can be produced only by particle accelerators.
Cool, when we stop using nuclear energy we can use all the reactors to create gold!
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Unrelated to the religious argument, is it really true we can make gold?

I know we can make diamonds, but I don't think gold can be made synthetically.

Maybe... but this is the first I'm hearing about it.

I just read this online...

Gold is an element, as is carbon. Graphite is a form of carbon. Diamond is a form of carbon. Graphite and diamond are two different arrangements of carbon atoms. We can reform carbon from graphite into diamond, but there is nothing to reform to make gold.
From what I understand... they can create every known thing on our planet, at least at a very tiny size. We can't create a human, but we can create the cells with the dna on, that rebuilds your body, turn on dna that can make you glow, grow an ear, from a cell we made. The same technology can take any element, and flip it's switches and turn it into another. This is a result of nano technology basically... everything is made of exactly the same thing, change the switches, the math changes... but it's still the same micro elements, just change the order of them.
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I merely posed a thought. The usual monkeys are now throwing shit
Everyone's replies are shit but we are meant to believe you know what you are talking about ????

You only have to take a look at your pathetic replies and it's easy to see your ability to discuss anything rationally is severely lacking.
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you have problem with nuclear energy?
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you have problem with nuclear energy?
At a cost of $1 billion per station and the billions in waste they produce.... yeah, they are rather stupid when we can store AC power, forever, for $1 billion, which replaces entire power grids all together as well.
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I'm sorry, i just scanned this thread

but is 12clicks saying that he believes in god or some other greater power that created life?

hmmm, i had him pegged different
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At a cost of $1 billion per station and the billions in waste they produce.... yeah, they are rather stupid when we can store AC power, forever, for $1 billion, which replaces entire power grids all together as well.
you are wasting yourself pushing porn. The man of your vision belongs to the department of Energy.

Naaahhhh, keep pushing porn.
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you are wasting yourself pushing porn. The man of your vision belongs to the department of Energy.

Naaahhhh, keep pushing porn.
My vision? It's a publicly traded company that owns/produces the technology.... I just own some stocks in it.
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12clicks could start a thread with the first post merely saying "I just farted" and it'd still get to at least 5 pages.

Few people here could accomplish that.
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