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Old 02-28-2010, 02:11 PM   #351
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Thus making most courtrooms military tribunals. Also why "illegal aliens" for the most part aren't a party to "most" "statutes" and get sent on their way or back to where they came from. But as I said there's A LOT more to this fraud than has been or will be discussed here.
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Old 02-28-2010, 02:55 PM   #352
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I'm not defending any of the arguments I'll list below, but it's a bit more complex than you lead on. Great minds have wrestled with the concept/ necessity of god for millennia.

ontological argument
cosmological argument
moral argument
arguments from consciousness
The answer if there is a good is not that complex to people who have the rare ability to this rationally
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Old 02-28-2010, 03:07 PM   #353
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What do you want enlightenment on? The fact that our judicial system is a scam? The fact that you and I aren't a party to the constitution? What? You said yourself and what started our little debate that before we had what is known as our government and judicial system we had forms of "control" your term "organized society" such as the Old Testament. Well I provided 1 clue as to where and how how judicial system came to be. Which is basicly what you said in the first place. So technically there really is no argument to be had. Only I see it as a religion because it very much is. There are other sources from which our judicial system was developed but as a whole it's not what the general population perceives it to be. It is a monumental fraud.

Besides even if you and I were a party to the Constitution it doesn't really even matter and hasn't since at least 1933. Why? Because Roosevelt signed the War Powers Act of 1933 where the US fell under military rule and all the people were declared enemies of the STATE.
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Old 02-28-2010, 03:10 PM   #354
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Besides even if you and I were a party to the Constitution it doesn't really even matter and hasn't since at least 1933.
Indeed, many scholars argue that it started even before that--the end of the Civil War. Before that time, it was generally understood that the phrase "United States" focused on the STATES. After Lincoln, the UNITED ie., federal entity took precedence.
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Old 02-28-2010, 04:37 PM   #355
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What do you want enlightenment on? The fact that our judicial system is a scam?
Fact or opinion?

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The fact that you and I aren't a party to the constitution?
Tell that to Larry Flynt.

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You said yourself and what started our little debate that before we had what is known as our government and judicial system we had forms of "control" your term "organized society" such as the Old Testament. Well I provided 1 clue as to where and how how judicial system came to be. Which is basicly what you said in the first place. So technically there really is no argument to be had.
Yep. Agreed. You are just taking a step further from.

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Only I see it as a religion because it very much is. There are other sources from which our judicial system was developed but as a whole it's not what the general population perceives it to be. It is a monumental fraud.
I don't think it follows at all that because we have derived certain aspects of law or government from religion, that it makes government a religion. I suppose if you use a rather loose definition for religion you can follow this line of thought.

Again, I think the fraud part is a bit over the top.

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Besides even if you and I were a party to the Constitution it doesn't really even matter and hasn't since at least 1933. Why? Because Roosevelt signed the War Powers Act of 1933 where the US fell under military rule and all the people were declared enemies of the STATE.
Well, I'll bow out on this... you are going conspiracy theory on me.
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Old 02-28-2010, 04:40 PM   #356
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The answer if there is a good is not that complex to people who have the rare ability to this rationally
English, please.
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Old 03-01-2010, 07:57 AM   #357
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Tell that to Larry Flynt.:
Flynt knows it's game over as well.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/larry-..._b_264706.html






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Again, I think the fraud part is a bit over the top.:
Then you'll love the conspiracy, racketeering, and the many other charges I plan to bring some of them up on starting locally and already in the works.

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Well, I'll bow out on this... you are going conspiracy theory on me.
Hard to be a "theory" when it's documented verifiable fact.
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Old 03-01-2010, 08:01 AM   #358
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if we are all god children, why Isuse is so special just a joke
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Hmmm we can create life out of the bare elements.. where have you been
http://leiwenwu.tripod.com/againstps.htm

Read it and make up your own mind did we come from soup?

Hey pass me some more Campbell;s will ya?
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I read the article. Well, there's a lot I would take issue with in this article. Nevertheless, the first thing that came to my mind was Hanlon's Razor.


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Then you'll love the conspiracy, racketeering, and the many other charges I plan to bring some of them up on starting locally and already in the works.
Keep us informed.

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Hard to be a "theory" when it's documented verifiable fact.
My statement was not to do with your quote, but where it looked like you were going to take it.
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My statement was not to do with your quote, but where it looked like you were going to take it.
Where did you think I was going? That the government/STATE has been secretly at war with the general population for at least 77 years unknown to most of those employed within even?
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