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Old 02-04-2010, 07:10 PM   #1
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Jehovah witnesses, These freaks must be fucked up in the head

You know, some days ago, a jw Mom died while giving birth and some said it might be because of blood transfusion denial.

and there was an ongoing discussion about it on a anti religion Turkish board.

one fucktard said there are some diseases could come from an other person's blood, so we should thank Jehovah witnesses for that, oh my goodness who allows those people to contact with an other humans

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Old 02-04-2010, 07:13 PM   #2
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People like that shouldn't be allowed to breed.
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Witnesses are always good for a laugh, just remember that they live the way they do so they can have office jobs in heaven!


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People like that shouldn't be allowed to breed.


Now, we know there are 7 million dumbnesses at least on this planet
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Aren't you the guy that is always defending the Muslim religion? If so....you probably shouldn't be making fun of another religion.
If not, accept my apology.
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Aren't you the guy that is always defending the Muslim religion? If so....you probably shouldn't be making fun of another religion.
If not, accept my apology.



Yes You right, i m, but as you see i m not mocking Christianity, Judaism or Islam, i m making fun of a sect no different then committing suicide.

even in Islam it has been believed that if You are in a difficult situation You can eat forbidden meat including pork.

personally these days i m questioning or religion issue totally, but weather weather i m religious or not, my views won't be changing, i won't be quitting defend what i see is true.

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Every Jehovah's Witness I've ever met has been nice, peaceful, respectful people. Maybe not GFY/porn biz-type folks, but decent.

The knocking on my door at nine am on a Sunday has GOT to stop, tho. Please Jehovah, make them STOP!!
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Every Jehovah's Witness I've ever met has been nice, peaceful, respectful people. Maybe not GFY/porn biz-type folks, but decent.

The knocking on my door at nine am on a Sunday has GOT to stop, tho. Please Jehovah, make them STOP!!
haha...same here. Their timing is horrible, but I just ask them politely to remove my name from their list of houses to visit and they do stop coming by to visit.
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I had two knock on my door the other day, had a 10 min chat but the discussion wasn't going anywhere. After hearing a few of their arguments, it was very clear they were delusional.

I don't really mind them though.
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I hate JW cab drivers, they are so freaking nice. I have to tip them always.

That being said
Now, when you are a doctor, and you are in this situation that your patient is refusing a blood transfusion, so you do not get a OK for a OR, then you better take it and spend your time on someone who does accept your help.

Point is, when your a Doctor, and you do give her blood cause you sedated her, and she does wake up and finds out you broke her holy rule, she will take the closest thing in her reach and jam it in her chest, so she dies in front of your eyes. How is that for a " Thank u i just saved your life as a doctor " compliment

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You know, some days ago, a jw Mom died while giving birth and some said it might be because of blood transfusion denial.

and there was an ongoing discussion about it on a anti religion Turkish board.

one fucktard said there are some diseases could come from an other person's blood, so we should thank Jehovah witnesses for that, oh my goodness who allows those people to contact with an other humans
They are no different than muslims or any other religious cult. They are all lunatics grasping desperately at dying, archaic views and beliefs.

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You know, some days ago, a jw Mom died while giving birth and some said it might be because of blood transfusion denial.
The persons who made those comments are going on established rumors about JW's. This is 2010. There are blood transfusion alternatives that have been proven to work much better than traditional procedures. Recovery time is faster and there is less potential for complications and infections. Even if she denied taking blood, there are better alternatives.

Sounds like some of those persons on that forum need to update their medical knowledge.

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Every Jehovah's Witness I've ever met has been nice, peaceful, respectful people.
I know a few and this is fact.

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Point is, when your a Doctor, and you do give her blood cause you sedated her, and she does wake up and finds out you broke her holy rule, she will take the closest thing in her reach and jam it in her chest, so she dies in front of your eyes. How is that for a " Thank u i just saved your life as a doctor " compliment
That's an urban myth. The most that would occur is the same as if a doctor prescribed an incorrect medicine or completed a procedure without permission of the patient or family member.

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They are no different than muslims or any other religious cult. They are all lunatics grasping desperately at dying, archaic views and beliefs.
Such is the right of all sentient beings to worship and congregate freely amongst each other.

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sure they're nice... but do you listen to the things them and the born agains say? it's hilarious... i wish i could brainwash surfers like that into being members... no wonder hitler got all those people to think like him... people are lemmings pure and simple.. sheep who are in dier need for something to believe in, a higher power controlling them... it's a great excuse for them to sit here for 70+ years and waste oxygen..... which is what most people really are doing anyhow... their jobs... their hobbies... are all to kill time before they die... even the productive, non-bible thumpers.... are all wasting time until we die.. trying to keep ourselves occupied...

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My story was based on true experience.
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Some factual answers to the following

The persons who made those comments are going on established rumors about JW's. This is 2010. There are blood transfusion alternatives that have been proven to work much better than traditional procedures. Recovery time is faster and there is less potential for complications and infections. Even if she denied taking blood, there are better alternatives.




Yes that guy who posted on the board defensing jw also was saying the same shit, but when Your blood level is below 2-3 litre average how the fuck You will save it anyways without blood transfusion?

and for the infection thing, wouldn't be donors tested before blood taken from him/her?
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With religion I feel to each his own but I always felt bad for JW kids I went to school with, never allowed to celebrate their birthdays and such

I don't think the witnessess deny medical care to their children, but I know christian scientists often do, and that's something I'm opposed to. After your 18 and can decide for yourself, no problem, but In don't think it's right to "let god take" children that can be easily cured with modern medicine.
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all relgious are funny. When you compare judaism to christianity to islam its all wacko cult shit

they cut little babies and call it rite, they have parties about it and enjoy it.

they stop family from taking medicine in the name of the lord, they want to stop science because its against god.

they dont eat things unless its been blessed etc... they wipe ashes on their forehead and think it heals them.

These people are all like David Koresh but just dont want to admit it.
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You said that to me or to the jws? i defence science, don't refuse anything good for human health, so whats wrong?
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My story was based on true experience.
Which only means that the particular individual you speak of was not mentally stable in the first place.

Crazy people can be found in any grouping. To take one example and attempt to make it exemplary of all who follow a particular religion or following is disingenuous and slanderous.

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Yes that guy who posted on the board defensing jw also was saying the same shit, but when Your blood level is below 2-3 litre average how the fuck You will save it anyways without blood transfusion?
Again, there are alternatives. Medical knowledge now has increased regarding the outdated opinion that blood transfusions are absolutely necessary. There are artificial solutions that will temporarily increase the volume of liquid in the blood to an appropriate level that ensures survival.

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and for the infection thing, wouldn't be donors tested before blood taken from him/her?
Early stages of certain infections do not show up in some tests. Take HIV for example, 6 months of regular testing once exposure has taken place is recommended to ensure that an infection is not present.

Overall, it is fairly easy to combine a disdain for certain religious beliefs with medical misinformation. It makes intolerance easier when you have 'examples'.
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I actually have talked to them multiple times.

i went to a catholic school growing up. (calgary is equally funded it is not like wear uniforms, hell the teachers smoked weed)

so i know religion pretty dam good.

one day after this guy showing up maybe 4-5 times i him i was trying to convert him away from his religion and not the other way around. he has never come back. LOL
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Which only means that the particular individual you speak of was not mentally stable in the first place.

Crazy people can be found in any grouping. To take one example and attempt to make it exemplary of all who follow a particular religion or following is disingenuous and slanderous.

Again, there are alternatives. Medical knowledge now has increased regarding the outdated opinion that blood transfusions are absolutely necessary. There are artificial solutions that will temporarily increase the volume of liquid in the blood to an appropriate level that ensures survival.

Early stages of certain infections do not show up in some tests. Take HIV for example, 6 months of regular testing once exposure has taken place is recommended to ensure that an infection is not present.

Overall, it is fairly easy to combine a disdain for certain religious beliefs with medical misinformation. It makes intolerance easier when you have 'examples'.


what ever man, i agree there are crazy people in any groups, but this is not one of them imho,

these alternative methods You mentioned gained a cirtain period with 1995 which was only 15 years ago from now, so that means there were people probably who died before that due to they refuse taking an other person's blood.

can we say these deaths totally stopped even today at all? probably not.

these alternative methods done in any hospital as a common method? i don't think so, as i learn there is one center which jws and other people who avoid from blood taking due to other reasons can go there.

actually i don't know if it's getting widespread day by day in developed countries, so i can't talk about it.

however when the day come and people have both alternative options to choose one by the other then we will no more be talking about it anymore, it will be just a historical event like other communities mistakes in the past.

with today's facilities, yet it's ridiculous to defend

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what ever man, i agree there are crazy people in any groups, but this is not one of them imho,
The example I was referencing, which was said to be a true experience by TJeezers, was that a woman stabbed herself in the chest after receiving a blood transfusion.

Regardless of religious denomination, that's an act of mental instability that should not be reflected upon other followers of the religion that the person followed.

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these alternative methods You mentioned gained a cirtain period with 1995 which was only 15 years ago from now, so that means there were people probably who died due to they refuse taking an other person's blood.
Blood transfusions are not 100% effective or life saving and medical knowledge was not the same, even 15 years ago, as it is today.

In these times doctors have found that the body is far more resilient than previously thought a decade ago in regards to blood loss.

Persons like yourself who do not have a grasp of the entire medical picture just take the opportunity to lambaste a religion, based on past information that is largely outdated.

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can we say these deaths totally stopped even today at all? probably not. These alternative methods done in any hospital as a common method? i don't think so, as i learn there is one center which jws and other people who avoid from blood taking due to other reasons can go there.
Again, this is 2010. The majority of hospital facilities, even in third world countries, are equipped with these alternative methods. In some cases it's simply a matter of increasing the liquid volume of the blood, which nullifies the need for blood transfusions.

Remember that being a doctor is not a stagnant profession. New methodologies are found everyday and the governing body of medical professionals worldwide ensure that practicing doctors abide by the updated rules. That's why they must attend conferences and seminars.

Not to mention the fact that established medical bodies have come forward and admitted that past reliance on blood transfusions was based on information that was not entirely correct.

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however with today's facilities, yet it's ridiculous to defend
There doesn't need to be a defense of it. Medical information speaks for itself.

What's happening here is that persons are taking their dislike for religion and using that as a base to criticize a personal decision to reject a blood transfusion. Little do these types of persons know that reliance upon blood transfusions is becoming far less on a mainstream level and that it is quickly becoming an outdated medical procedure.

Medical technology is fast advancing. Some people need to update their info.
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all relgious are funny. When you compare judaism to christianity to islam its all wacko cult shit

they cut little babies and call it rite, they have parties about it and enjoy it.

they stop family from taking medicine in the name of the lord, they want to stop science because its against god.

they dont eat things unless its been blessed etc... they wipe ashes on their forehead and think it heals them.

These people are all like David Koresh but just dont want to admit it.
a) it's all created so the masses can have something to look forward to.. who wants to think they're gonna die and that's it.. that's their ultimate goal.. that sucks

b) it's all a scam... the buddhist monks in asia scam me for cash every time i visit a temple for some blessing.. at catholic church the fuckers panhandle with collections too.. dunno how the jewish temples work but i bet my ass they get money out of their followers wallets too.. all religions... hell.... even amway... think about it...

if i told you guys there's a ghost sitting next to me and his name is Erol and he types for me you'd think i was loony... but most of the world can believe in equally as invisible ghosts and think it's society at it's best...

if you ask me, someone should be standing back looking at all the loonies who believe in inivisible ghosts.. i choose to laugh at them... but more mature people may just take note, shake their head and move on with life knowing the average person is brainwashed....

go science!
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The knocking on my door at nine am on a Sunday has GOT to stop, tho. Please Jehovah, make them STOP!!
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Old 02-05-2010, 05:48 PM   #34
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The example I was referencing, which was said to be a true experience by TJeezers, was that a woman stabbed herself in the chest after receiving a blood transfusion.

Regardless of religious denomination, that's an act of mental instability that should not be reflected upon other followers of the religion that the person followed.

Blood transfusions are not 100% effective or life saving and medical knowledge was not the same, even 15 years ago, as it is today.

In these times doctors have found that the body is far more resilient than previously thought a decade ago in regards to blood loss.

Persons like yourself who do not have a grasp of the entire medical picture just take the opportunity to lambaste a religion, based on past information that is largely outdated.

Again, this is 2010. The majority of hospital facilities, even in third world countries, are equipped with these alternative methods. In some cases it's simply a matter of increasing the liquid volume of the blood, which nullifies the need for blood transfusions.

Remember that being a doctor is not a stagnant profession. New methodologies are found everyday and the governing body of medical professionals worldwide ensure that practicing doctors abide by the updated rules. That's why they must attend conferences and seminars.

Not to mention the fact that established medical bodies have come forward and admitted that past reliance on blood transfusions was based on information that was not entirely correct.

There doesn't need to be a defense of it. Medical information speaks for itself.

What's happening here is that persons are taking their dislike for religion and using that as a base to criticize a personal decision to reject a blood transfusion. Little do these types of persons know that reliance upon blood transfusions is becoming far less on a mainstream level and that it is quickly becoming an outdated medical procedure.

Medical technology is fast advancing. Some people need to update their info.



right now, i haven't much time to quote it partially, so, pardon me for that.

what i m saying and Yours is pretty different, yes there could be a cure that increases the liquid amount in the body.

You can even tell me that You can cure the body with a kind of remote controlled recovery technology thats all fine for me as a science and technology admirer.

what i m saying is there were some times happen without that type of cure (like You said) and probably people died because of this weird belief.

over looking any religion? no i m not that type of person who would do that, lots of time i had to defense Islam here, as i would do the same for any other believers as long as they don't harm others.

pray to a potato or worship the holly cow, i don't give a fuck.

actually as a liberal person i wouldn't normally disagree with anyone's self decision, but otherwise to science a group of people die like suicide bombers within a bunch of idiots guiding them to this stupid belief system, thats why i can't stand it.

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I think it's good that *someone* will knock on your door now and then asking if you want a better life.

2 JW came to my door a couple months ago, she read out of the bible about Adam sinning and everybody being mortal and suffering because of Adam, I was thinking "hey watchit!".

I was thinking of doing some bibliomancy (channelling) for them, maybe they would take me in as their saviour?? But I wasn't sure if it would work. But last month 2 police came to my door accusing me of poisoning food, I told them that was in the sentence "please reply in a day or two" in 2002 and he goes oh yeh yeh. So he tells me to stop bothering the skeptics and can I win the paranormal challenge or not? So I said "give me your paperwork" and he hands me some forms, I glance at the form and read out "It was part of his duty". They were baffled so I explained that it answered their question whether I could win the prize. So he asks his partner to think of another question, and he says "what color is our car?". I turn to the next sheet and read out "Obviously". They said that's not a color but it's up to the skeptics to decide.

First time I've channelled live to an audience, might try it next time on the JW, I bet they come back the next weekend if I do.
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Although they can be pests knocking on doors early saturday mornings etc - i've always found them to be pretty ok types. I mean most people treat them like shit and they get little personal gain (except what is in their heads). There was a couple of JW kids at our school and they had to stand by the main hall door as everyone filed in for morning service. They got a ton of shit and i used to feel pretty bad for them. Since i was more worried about my own status back then i never spoke up for them. Put back in that situation now i guess i would cut them a break.

Still i feel there are a lot of other groups you would need to worry about long long before JWs.

Their belief system does seem like it would have been better suited to a time before serious science made most religions seem a little off - but no more so than most other religions. I'd really be interested to know how a person would claim JWs are fucked up in the head and then actual speak up for islam? Although my sample size is small and thus lacks real power statistically speaking - my experience with those of islam has not nearly been so positive. I'm just talking about their general behaviour, outlook on life and opinions of other human beings. Even then i would not claim they were freaks and fucked up in the head, or find reason to post about it on an adult webmaster board.
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I'd really be interested to know how a person would claim JWs are fucked up in the head and then actual speak up for islam? Although my sample size is small and thus lacks real power statistically speaking - my experience with those of islam has not nearly been so positive. I'm just talking about their general behaviour, outlook on life and opinions of other human beings. Even then i would not claim they were freaks and fucked up in the head, or find reason to post about it on an adult webmaster board.

i already explained this one above, but i can repeat it again with more generalized way.

ofcourse i would speak up for islam, christianity, judaism... blacks, whites... i won't hesitate from saying whats the truth.

the problem is not what they believed, the problem is because of this bleef system, there people who probabely died due to blood transfusion denial.


even though there are newly developped methods for that no doudt some people died before those alternative curing methods has been invented and thats why i oppose it.

if a group of jw comes to my door even now, believe me i wouldn't dis/treat like shit, i may kindly refuse or if they wanna discuss i can say ok to that if i have enough time to do it.

because the values have been thought me will stop me from doing the otherwise.

i m repeating, i don't care what You believe or the way of life You live as long as You don't force others to do the same.

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