Shaggy,

Don't show me that again I am already pissed enough as it is. I hope every adult webmaster see it though.

Mark

With third party stats, SHAVING IS STILL POSSIBLE.

One of my ex-sponsors used ccbill stats. The first few 'sales' were all 'rebills' (converted trials or membership renews), NOT 'trials' nor 'recurs' (new sales)...

I thought the sponsor was stupid enough to shave me like that... evidence was there, if there were no sales in trials or full memberships, how could there be rebills...?! Of course again, the explanation from the sponsor - it was a bug.. :(

Soooooo is anybody still sending these guys traffic and letting them get away with this shit?

Butter I am not sure why your ex-sponsors stats were like that but we would never shave period, if we could or not. I don't know how you could shave with CCBill. Once we had an error in someones CCBill's stats and overpaid an affiliate $1,000 but we decided to pay it anyway. I just don't get why any sponsor would ever shave because you want your webmasters to be happy with the program and stick around. Screwing them does nothing. Sure I want to make money but I refuse to screw anyone getting there.

Mark

Dude, you pay per ACTIVE signup, that's a completely different story. You don't have to shave. Active or partnership is the same... you know you will make a profit.

$40 per active is like paying $15 per trial.

I remember signing up for bluemedia 2 years ago and was pissed off after reading the terms... that's false advertising! If you pay $40 per active signup, promote it clearly.

Hey BlueMedia, if you're going to keep bumping this thread so you can spam your program and preach about how you would never shave, at least change your misleading signature to $40 per active member.

Saying you pay $40 per signup is very misleading and puts you in the same class as the company everyone in this thread has been bitching about.

You claimed ignorance about the "active member" concept at first, but its been thoroughly explained to you several times now. So if you're going to continue to preach about how fucking honest you are, walk it like you talk it and change your site and your sig

:1orglaugh

Probably:(

wrong thread to start spamming your prog.....me think

Lenny,

Well I guess I learned from other sponsors. Checking out their sites like TopBucks it clearly states Make $40 Per Signup. I have changed alot of my site to make it as clear as possible. I also changed my signature. I appreciate all the input good and bad since normally nobody ever says anything.

Thanks,
Mark

I happen to agree with most of what you said above, except that when you sell 100 paying customers to the paysite at $10 each you get more than the $1000, because you get rebills for month after month off the same sales.

www.tatgirls.com for example uses globill for links/payments and has no trials, so every signup you get $10 plus the recurring which is about 70% of each member per month. So over time the 100 sales would pay you aprox $3,000.



I don't want to interupt this thread or anything, I just wanted to point out the power behind recurring. After all, it is recurring that currently drives the adult internet.

well, that's like u've seen someone banging ur wife after u thought she's cheating u for years.

nothing new, but how fucking shocking

would to see their upsell stats tho :p
have no idea about usual %% of upsells from a 2.95 trial, like 20-30% probably?

making $10-12k extra for these guys, what do u think?

sorry to say, but if u have sent 1000 hits in 2 weeks that equals 70 hits per day and if u had 1:35 ratios before means u were getting two sales a day beofre and now not a sale in two weeks?

just didn't geddit

wow, nice thread. If anyone had a doubt that alot of the per signup sponsors shave, this should put it to rest

i've heard adultcom has strict anti-spam policy :Graucho

HI they don't shave, but you have to ask 7348735835747357 times for your check....Finalkly sukkboy made it right for me(he was working for them atm)

SO thumbs up for him, and thumbs down for that bubba

Andre

From Luke Ford today...

"NABBED! DOLLARS4YOU.COM CAUGHT SHAVING

CLICK TO ENLARGE EVIDENCE

From Their Page: Having trouble converting your traffic? Look no further! Advertise trial signups on our seven outstanding niche sites and make cash like the old days! We are paying $30 for each trial signup, no exceptions! With over 5 years experience, we know how to convert your traffic into signups! Attracting fresh tours that update on a regular basis ensure the best conversion ratios possible!"

I just sent them an email to see if they have any comments. Reckon they'll answer? LMAO

Hey, I couldn't resist. It's the journalist in me coming out (my DAY job). LOL

--RajinCajun

And probably that's only the top of the aisberg....
do you wonder how much another sponsors are doing something similar?
Or maybe the correct question is "who is shaving least?"

ehh....

Lastnight in my mail



Dear webmaster,

We decided to stop the Dollars4All program due to constant fighting with hackers over the 3 years we have been running this program now. This even resulted in giving us a bad name in this industry recently. Although allegations were not true, we lost the fun in running Dollars4All now.

Please remove all links to the program as soon as possible; before the New Year they will stop working.

All payments will be processed in the first week of the next month as usually.

We thank you for using Dollars4All over the past period of time.

Best regards,

Team Dollars4All

I just recieved that email as well.

I wonder if this post is why they are closing this program down. Also wonder were and how they will pop up again?

Wow this even gets more interesting. I don't quite get why they said they have had problems with hackers for the past 3 years.
If they had that many problems with hackers they could of hired someone to make their network and server more secure. Where is the original person who posted the message?

Mark

Well perhaps this was true! I think it was seeing my comments were late but still for what I saw, it looked horrible! I wouldn't touch anything coming from anywhere in the netherlands nor Ozzy land either, Amsterdam too.. some of the best breathtaking
views for what I saw but saidly headaches for the cash to flow in?
lastly good job dude (hacker) :thumbsup
they'll probably close there doors and be up and running with another name.. sorta like cashcow.com did many moons ago.
Mr. hacker needs to hit some of the bigger fish! he.he. that would be fun! theres a few I have in mind.. expose them shake em down..watch them tumble... Keep it up Mr. Hacker that was a full grinner.. you need to start teaching that method for sure..
or sell the CD then you wouldn't have to dabble with this circus
.. ha.ha. very good..

:thumbsup

haha that's a thread worth bumping for sure

would be nice to see the "bigger" sites stats, I have no doubt they do the same, but the question is how much?

Wow, who knew Shemale was such a goldmine

I gotta get me a wig

Anyone know who these guy's resurfaced as? :1orglaugh

:(

This thread is such a classic that I've saved the picture on my hard drive all this time. Talk about PWNT
http://www.amateurcleavage.com/gfy/d4all.jpg