A note to those here who employ people

[EscortBiz]

Some here fear asking employees to do shit or to work an extra hour or so because they will think your an asshole, for the record you will always be the asshole in the eyes on an employee and their family, your always the bad guy, the conversations employees have with their friends and family will always be how they run the whole show and how without them you are nothing, the conversation will always include stories how stupid you are and how you run your business very bad and ALWAYS their family will tickle their balls and agree and cry with them.

Times like these are times to put your company on a dialysis machine and get rid of bad blood and get in respectful fresh blood, the amount of quality talent out there who will appreciate a well paid position or any position for that matter is at an all time high.

And last but not least every programmer, designer, manager photo guy is replaceable, some here would collapse if you would hear how your lovely employee portrays you to their family and friends.

In all my years in business every time I talk to someone who works for somebody all I hear is bitching and moaning about how they are not happy with their job and their boss is a asshole and stingy and has no clue how to run things.

Bottom line is your always gonna be an asshole to those who work for you even if you treat them well and pay well, after all no one wants to work for somebody and everyone feels they are not appreciated, so you might as well stop trying to be mister nice guy and put your business first.

This is my tip of the year :-)

[Deej]

So uhhh - where do I send my application

[pornguy]

Nahhh The only assholes I work for or WITH would be..


Tam.
Nick,
Winston.

Yeah I think thats it.

[pornguy]

Damn I crack myself up.

[Ayla_SquareTurtle]

Just because some people have asshole bosses (or go around talking like they do when they don't) doesn't mean that every employee everywhere has it out for their boss. I've had good bosses and I've had asshole bosses. I never called the good ones assholes behind their backs.

[Ninja_Pete]

Originally Posted by EscortBiz

Some here fear asking employees to do shit or to work an extra hour or so because they will think your an asshole, for the record you will always be the asshole in the eyes on an employee and their family, your always the bad guy, the conversations employees have with their friends and family will always be how they run the whole show and how without them you are nothing, the conversation will always include stories how stupid you are and how you run your business very bad and ALWAYS their family will tickle their balls and agree and cry with them.

Times like these are times to put your company on a dialysis machine and get rid of bad blood and get in respectful fresh blood, the amount of quality talent out there who will appreciate a well paid position or any position for that matter is at an all time high.

And last but not least every programmer, designer, manager photo guy is replaceable, some here would collapse if you would hear how your lovely employee portrays you to their family and friends.

In all my years in business every time I talk to someone who works for somebody all I hear is bitching and moaning about how they are not happy with their job and their boss is a asshole and stingy and has no clue how to run things.

Bottom line is your always gonna be an asshole to those who work for you even if you treat them well and pay well, after all no one wants to work for somebody and everyone feels they are not appreciated, so you might as well stop trying to be mister nice guy and put your business first.

This is my tip of the year :-)

You couldn't be more wrong. I have no problem giving the great employers I have worked for the credit they deserve. The problem is, a lot of employers are assholes and exactly what you described. "Stingy assholes who have no clue." I have worked for many people just like that. A spade is a spade. If you are a good employer and treat your people well, I don't believe they run around unhappy, talking shit about you.

I can understand how your employees would feel that way about you though. If you carry around that point of view about your employees and consider them all your enemy and easily replaceable. They probably do hate you and talk shit about you.

[Tam]

Originally Posted by Ayla_SquareTurtle

Just because some people have asshole bosses (or go around talking like they do when they don't) doesn't mean that every employee everywhere has it out for their boss. I've had good bosses and I've had asshole bosses. I never called the good ones assholes behind their backs.

Same thing here..... BUT, I have called them assholes to their faces. Not being one to mince too many words, if I think someone is an asshole, I am going to TELL them they are an asshole... why should having the title of "boss" be any different than anyone else.... if I don't like someone, boss or otherwise, I say so.

Oh and pornguy, you aren't an asshole at all, you are just a dick.

[Vendzilla]

Um, NO! not true,. I'm very happy with my employer

[EscortBiz]

Originally Posted by Tam

Same thing here..... BUT, I have called them assholes to their faces. Not being one to mince too many words, if I think someone is an asshole, I am going to TELL them they are an asshole... why should having the title of "boss" be any different than anyone else.... if I don't like someone, boss or otherwise, I say so.

Oh and pornguy, you aren't an asshole at all, you are just a dick.

yup im sure you tell everyone how you feel about them in their face, like the guys telling their wives "honey if I wanted to cheat on you i would tell you"

gimme a break

fact is everyone who works for anyone for an extended period of time starts with their bullshit how their boss sucks, its sad for bosses that dont realize it and when they do fire their fucking ass let their family start paying their bills

[DatingGold]

well said..

[pornguy]

Better a dick than a brown caca covers ass hole.

[EscortBiz]

Originally Posted by Ninja_Pete

You couldn't be more wrong. I have no problem giving the great employers I have worked for the credit they deserve. The problem is, a lot of employers are assholes and exactly what you described. "Stingy assholes who have no clue." I have worked for many people just like that. A spade is a spade. If you are a good employer and treat your people well, I don't believe they run around unhappy, talking shit about you.

I can understand how your employees would feel that way about you though. If you carry around that point of view about your employees and consider them all your enemy and easily replaceable. They probably do hate you and talk shit about you.

Always remember two sides to every story, some just take advantage all fucking day

[Tam]

Originally Posted by EscortBiz

yup im sure you tell everyone how you feel about them in their face, like the guys telling their wives "honey if I wanted to cheat on you i would tell you"

Ummm, you seriously don't know me very well, if I have something to say, I SAY it, good or bad. I may not go walking up to someone and say "you are a cocksucker and a motherfucker".... I'll use a little kinder ways of saying it, but if I don't like something someone says or does to me, I most certainly WILL tell them.

I didn't make up the words Rude Bitch, honey, I earned them and I live by them... I am called a rude bitch pretty often because I don't fuck around. Why the hell should I? Life is too short to harbor pent up frustrations, if I don't like something, I don't eat it.

For anyone, boss, husband, friends, kids.... doesn't matter, they all know how I feel about them. lol

[Ayla_SquareTurtle]

Originally Posted by Tam

Ummm, you seriously don't know me very well, if I have something to say, I SAY it, good or bad. I may not go walking up to someone and say "you are a cocksucker and a motherfucker".... I'll use a little kinder ways of saying it, but if I don't like something someone says or does to me, I most certainly WILL tell them.

I didn't make up the words Rude Bitch, honey, I earned them and I live by them... I am called a rude bitch pretty often because I don't fuck around. Why the hell should I? Life is too short to harbor pent up frustrations, if I don't like something, I don't eat it.

For anyone, boss, husband, friends, kids.... doesn't matter, they all know how I feel about them. lol

I think you and I would get along quite well

[CDSmith]

That's one of the reasons I worked so hard in my 30's to become my own boss. It's been mostly heaven for over 10 lovely years, but you better believe the employee side of me calls the boss side of me an asshole all the time. :D

(And vice-versa)

[EscortBiz]

Originally Posted by Tam

Ummm, you seriously don't know me very well, if I have something to say, I SAY it, good or bad.

seriously everyone I met sings this same very song

im buying your story happy?

[EscortBiz]

Originally Posted by CDSmith

That's one of the reasons I worked so hard in my 30's to become my own boss. It's been mostly heaven for over 10 lovely years, but you better believe the employee side of me calls the boss side of me an asshole all the time. :D

(And vice-versa)

lol good one and good for you nothing beats being your own boss :-) most here who would attemp that will end up in a cardboard box

[seeric]

i'm gonna fire myself since i work for me. i'm an asshole.

[2012]

Treat your employees well, pay them well. Treat them the way you would expect to be treated.

If you're paying someone "piss nothing" ... what did you expect ?

Treating people like shit doesn't really workout too well. Remember when the US got all that ecoli from spinach and tomatoes?

[Tam]

Originally Posted by EscortBiz

seriously everyone I met sings this same very song

im buying your story happy?

I am quite happy, thanks for asking.. can you say the same thing honestly?

[Ayla_SquareTurtle]

Oh, I get it. You're one of those who thinks they know the mind of every single person in the whole wide world better than they do.

[BradM]

Yea, Tam has a BIG mouth everyone knows that. That's why we all like her.

[EscortBiz]

Originally Posted by fartfly

Treat your employees well, pay them well. Treat them the way you would expect to be treated.

If you're paying someone "piss nothing" ... what did you expect ?

part of the problem is the amount of employees who think you pay them piss nothing when in fact you pay them very nicely.

trust me I know many business owners honest respectful of their workers yet their workers bitch and moan.

[Ninja_Pete]

Originally Posted by EscortBiz

yup im sure you tell everyone how you feel about them in their face, like the guys telling their wives "honey if I wanted to cheat on you i would tell you"

gimme a break

fact is everyone who works for anyone for an extended period of time starts with their bullshit how their boss sucks, its sad for bosses that dont realize it and when they do fire their fucking ass let their family start paying their bills

Dude, you might be borderline clinically depressed or something. Either that, or you're such a shitty employer, all your employees do in fact really not like you. It is not uncommon. I have worked in many places where all the employees hate the boss. And it is usually for very good reason.

I worked for a former employer for almost a year. I ended being good friends with him and had a great relationship with him. His company crumbled when the economy shit the bed and he had to lay everyone off. To this day, if he called me and asked for my help again, I would gladly pick up my camera and go shoot for him. I still keep in touch with him to see how things are going and we shoot the shit once in a while.

He is a good dude and a great employer. I am still going to watch the Superbowl at his house this year and I don't even work for him anymore.

fact is everyone who works for anyone for an extended period of time starts with their bullshit how their boss sucks,

That is not a fact. That is your twisted opinion based on w/e it is you do to your employees to make them dislike you so much, haha.

[EscortBiz]

Originally Posted by Ayla_SquareTurtle

Oh, I get it. You're one of those who thinks they know the mind of every single person in the whole wide world better than they do.

I just say facts and your busy posting fiction, I talk from listening to many you talk because you need to state what you feel is right politically correct, I can afford not to give a shit you obviously talk like your running for some govt office.

[EscortBiz]

Originally Posted by Ninja_Pete

Dude, you might be borderline clinically depressed or something. Either that, or you're such a shitty employer, all your employees do in fact really not like you. It is not uncommon. I have worked in many places where all the employees hate the boss. And it is usually for very good reason.

I worked for a former employer for almost a year. I ended being good friends with him and had a great relationship with him. His company crumbled when the economy shit the bed and he had to lay everyone off. To this day, if he called me and asked for my help again, I would gladly pick up my camera and go shoot for him. I still keep in touch with him to see how things are going and we shoot the shit once in a while.

He is a good dude and a great employer. I am still going to watch the Superbowl at his house this year and I don't even work for him anymore.



That is not a fact. That is your twisted opinion based on w/e it is you do to your employees to make them dislike you so much, haha.

Very good reason they hate the boss such as he wants them to preform the duties they where hired for and they prefer to spend time bullshitting?

Im alright dont mistake my rant here for being depressed or anything, it was time to get action going on this forum thats busy talking about tubes

[Ayla_SquareTurtle]

Originally Posted by EscortBiz

I just say facts and your busy posting fiction, I talk from listening to many you talk because you need to state what you feel is right politically correct, I can afford not to give a shit you obviously talk like your running for some govt office.

mmkay then. You're delusional, and I have a Christmas party to attend. Adios.

[EscortBiz]

Originally Posted by Ayla_SquareTurtle

mmkay then. You're delusional, and I have a Christmas party to attend. Adios.

yeah very much so

[Ninja_Pete]

Originally Posted by EscortBiz

Very good reason they hate the boss such as he wants them to preform the duties they where hired for and they prefer to spend time bullshitting?

Im alright dont mistake my rant here for being depressed or anything, it was time to get action going on this forum thats busy talking about tubes

Sounds to me like you have a few bad seeds and you're generalizing every single person who needs employment because of them. I definitely understand having shitty employees and how frustrating it is, but you can't say EVERY SINGLE employee is a shit talking, unappreciative, asshole. It just isn't true.

I just gave you a first hand case where it isn't. Me.

[EscortBiz]

Originally Posted by Ninja_Pete

Sounds to me like you have a few bad seeds and you're generalizing every single person who needs employment because of them. I definitely understand having shitty employees and how frustrating it is, but you can't say EVERY SINGLE employee is a shit talking, unappreciative, asshole. It just isn't true.

I just gave you a first hand case where it isn't. Me.

well lets just say I cannot recall the last time someone from online or offline and I talk to many said something like "I been working for ABC for 4 years and im happy" it bothers me a great deal in a way

[Tam]

Originally Posted by EscortBiz

I just say facts and your busy posting fiction, I talk from listening to many you talk because you need to state what you feel is right politically correct, I can afford not to give a shit you obviously talk like your running for some govt office.

Not me, if I think someone is being an ass, I'll tell them.... lmao

IF, however, we're just talking and they ask my opinion, I'll try to deliver it to them gently or in a much more kind manner than if they are being an asshole with me.... but the way I see it, if they want to talk down to me, I am going to fight back on it... even if they pay my salary, doesn't give them the right to shit on me.... and I let them know it. lol

[NaughtyRob]

I try to be a nice boss and don't do anything that would make me an asshole but most of what you said is probably correct.

[Ninja_Pete]

Yah, that's unfortunate. I would be pretty bummed if I employed people and they never had anything good to say about me. I might even take a step back and consider taking a look at what I might be doing wrong, instead of pointing the finger at every single employee in the world.

[The Duck]

yeah im too nice to people I hire.

[Tam]

Originally Posted by GetNaughty

I try to be a nice boss and don't do anything that would make me an asshole but most of what you said is probably correct.

HEY, you can attest to what I am saying here, I kinda, sorta worked for you for a short time....... YOU tell them, I speak my damn mind don't I?

[NaughtyRob]

Originally Posted by Tam

HEY, you can attest to what I am saying here, I kinda, sorta worked for you for a short time....... YOU tell them, I speak my damn mind don't I?

Tam, yes you sure do speak your mind.

[kahell]

Originally Posted by EscortBiz

Some here fear asking employees to do shit or to work an extra hour or so because they will think your an asshole, for the record you will always be the asshole in the eyes on an employee and their family, your always the bad guy, the conversations employees have with their friends and family will always be how they run the whole show and how without them you are nothing, the conversation will always include stories how stupid you are and how you run your business very bad and ALWAYS their family will tickle their balls and agree and cry with them.

Times like these are times to put your company on a dialysis machine and get rid of bad blood and get in respectful fresh blood, the amount of quality talent out there who will appreciate a well paid position or any position for that matter is at an all time high.

And last but not least every programmer, designer, manager photo guy is replaceable, some here would collapse if you would hear how your lovely employee portrays you to their family and friends.

In all my years in business every time I talk to someone who works for somebody all I hear is bitching and moaning about how they are not happy with their job and their boss is a asshole and stingy and has no clue how to run things.

Bottom line is your always gonna be an asshole to those who work for you even if you treat them well and pay well, after all no one wants to work for somebody and everyone feels they are not appreciated, so you might as well stop trying to be mister nice guy and put your business first.

This is my tip of the year :-)

designer here where can I send my application?

[DatingGold]

so who did you just fire? treat the good employees well, the bad ones yeah who cares its all a matter of time

[firecracker]

Not everyone is a jerk, I believe that some people just take their work( or benefits) for granted. When they no longer work for that person suddenly they become grateful ass kissers.

[jwerd]

My

I love it when an employer needs his workers yet dicks them around for a few bucks, squabbles because he can't diversify enough to stay afloat, and then let's his employees go and blames them for everything. The fact is, he goes home and tells all his friends and family how shitty his employees are and why his company crashed. My advice in this is if you need someone, and they prove to be worthy for a salary, treat them right. Treat them and reward them when you can. In the end, a few bucks extra goes a lot further with someone who knows the work and does the job. I'm not saying reward someone who is lazy and doesn't perform, I'm saying, and in most cases, employers tend to try and save a few dollars by letting the more expensive guys go in trade for some "new guy" who will do it for a few hundred dollars less. They end up spending more resources hiring and training the new guy then actually keeping the old guy and meeting his demands at least partly.

[Peter Romero]

I love shooting and I love shooting well. I put everything into what I am photographing and videotaping. I don't care how long it takes or what I have to do to get it right - something worth doing is better done right or not at all. I like long production days and struggling to get everything right - it may be sadistic but I do. Maybe it's the athlete in me, maybe it's my ambition over-riding my mind and body's desire to quit. I always overshoot to make sure that there is room for editing - sometimes I way overshoot but oh fucking well. When people see the result of how I made them look, or the scene look - then it is all worth it.

I like company owners who are really into the content that they are ordering, and that are very critical of my work as well. That's what makes me better - when I'm constantly challenging myself to get in all the details that are important. I have shot for you - Escortbiz for almost 6 years now. You have paid me very well and demanded that I get it right or sent it back to me. No one is more demanding to shoot for than you - I fuckin love it. Give me that any day rather than someone who doesn't even watch my shit but just complains about it not being cheaper. We've had our disagreements but always agreed in the end - it's the QUALITY that keeps people coming back again and again. Your members to you, and you to order more custom exclusive content from me.

I don't look at anyone who hires me as an asshole - I'm gratefull for everything I've got. And I'm looking for more long demanding detailed orientated fetish shoots in the future.

[papill0n]

If someone running a business needs to be told on to put their business first they probably don't have any employees.

[CDSmith]

My experiences as an employee tell me that it takes someone with true leadership ability who is personable and has a way with people that eases tension and encourages good performance that makes the best boss... but unfortunately there simply aren't many bosses like that. Most often times the absolute dumbass jerk is the one given the promotion or put in charge.

My experiences as an employer is that the best employees not only value their job and the opportunity you've given them but they also take pride in their work and in their reputation of being on time and showing initiative. But again, unfortunately... most employees don't possess those qualities. Finding one is like striking gold, and when you do find one (or several) it is the wise employer who will find ways of rewarding them enough and in the proper way so there won't be all this "Fuck I hate my job/boss" crap going on.

Smart business people with an ounce of sense in their heads will find a way to get it done.

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by EscortBiz

Bottom line is your always gonna be an asshole to those who work for you even if you treat them well and pay well, after all no one wants to work for somebody and everyone feels they are not appreciated, so you might as well stop trying to be mister nice guy and put your business first.

This is my tip of the year :-)

Absolutely correct.

No matter how well paid, or treated. The 'boss' will always be an asshole. The reasons and rationale are endless.

[BlackCrayon]

It goes on from both sides. Employers feeling like they are undervalued, ect. Bosses feeling like their employees take advantage and don't produce what they think they should. There are truths on both sides many times as the employee doesn't often take the time to think about what the boss has to deal with and the boss doesn't take the time to put himself in his employees shoes. Communication is probably the best method to deal with the situation. It might not solve it but making yourself human to the person on the other side can't hurt and might make people think about their biased opinions.

[Ditosta]

Well said!

[markuskulit]

Everyone's guilty saying things behind someone else's back... not just in work, school, it's everywhere. Employers will always be an A-hole in the eyes of employees. The thing is, if you don't like or you feel unhappy with your job or your boss then you should resign and find something else that will make you happy.

[Kudles]

I like my boss thanks

[irbobo]

fuck working for people UNEMPLOYEES MOUNT UP!

[Blingbaby]

Originally Posted by EscortBiz

Some here fear asking employees to do shit or to work an extra hour or so because they will think your an asshole, for the record you will always be the asshole in the eyes on an employee and their family, your always the bad guy, the conversations employees have with their friends and family will always be how they run the whole show and how without them you are nothing, the conversation will always include stories how stupid you are and how you run your business very bad and ALWAYS their family will tickle their balls and agree and cry with them.

Times like these are times to put your company on a dialysis machine and get rid of bad blood and get in respectful fresh blood, the amount of quality talent out there who will appreciate a well paid position or any position for that matter is at an all time high.

And last but not least every programmer, designer, manager photo guy is replaceable, some here would collapse if you would hear how your lovely employee portrays you to their family and friends.

In all my years in business every time I talk to someone who works for somebody all I hear is bitching and moaning about how they are not happy with their job and their boss is a asshole and stingy and has no clue how to run things.

Bottom line is your always gonna be an asshole to those who work for you even if you treat them well and pay well, after all no one wants to work for somebody and everyone feels they are not appreciated, so you might as well stop trying to be mister nice guy and put your business first.

This is my tip of the year :-)

You're also quite replaceable and disposable asshole, don't think yourself a god..

Ps. this kind of attitude is how you lose the cream of the crop and get stuck with the moaners.. go fuck yourself!

And let me add that over the years you have requested my services and I avoid YOU like the plague I don't care how much money you shuffle around and how hyper inflated your ego seems to be on this board