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Blingbaby · 12-14-2008, 03:14 AM

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Originally Posted by EscortBiz

yup im sure you tell everyone how you feel about them in their face, like the guys telling their wives "honey if I wanted to cheat on you i would tell you"

gimme a break

fact is everyone who works for anyone for an extended period of time starts with their bullshit how their boss sucks, its sad for bosses that dont realize it and when they do fire their fucking ass let their family start paying their bills

You keep telling yourself that, psychoanalysts around the world made careers researching self-denial psychopaths like you. I guess you enjoy being hated. Enjoy the rest of your life Ebeneezer.

Blingbaby · 12-14-2008, 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by EscortBiz

well lets just say I cannot recall the last time someone from online or offline and I talk to many said something like "I been working for ABC for 4 years and im happy" it bothers me a great deal in a way

It's because you're a slave driver dick. People aren't robots. Sure the understand they need to perform duties but they also want to enjoy life, their jobs. You are missing something here and this thread reflects it and is giving you some clues you are totally missing. Perhaps you should consider therapy..

JamesK · 12-14-2008, 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies

Absolutely correct.

No matter how well paid, or treated. The 'boss' will always be an asshole. The reasons and rationale are endless.

You're an asshole, boss

Blingbaby · 12-14-2008, 03:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Ninja_Pete

Yah, that's unfortunate. I would be pretty bummed if I employed people and they never had anything good to say about me. I might even take a step back and consider taking a look at what I might be doing wrong, instead of pointing the finger at every single employee in the world.

Exactly. The quickest thing we do as people is project things onto someone else. Not my problem, not my fault. So typical and easily corrected, yet is it? Not if people aren't willing to acknowledge their part in the problem.. Look at the world today, it's why we have wars and the BS we do, nobody is willing to take responsibility. "Oh no, it's *his* fault. I am perfect"

Blingbaby · 12-14-2008, 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by lamerhooD

My

I love it when an employer needs his workers yet dicks them around for a few bucks, squabbles because he can't diversify enough to stay afloat, and then let's his employees go and blames them for everything. The fact is, he goes home and tells all his friends and family how shitty his employees are and why his company crashed. My advice in this is if you need someone, and they prove to be worthy for a salary, treat them right. Treat them and reward them when you can. In the end, a few bucks extra goes a lot further with someone who knows the work and does the job. I'm not saying reward someone who is lazy and doesn't perform, I'm saying, and in most cases, employers tend to try and save a few dollars by letting the more expensive guys go in trade for some "new guy" who will do it for a few hundred dollars less. They end up spending more resources hiring and training the new guy then actually keeping the old guy and meeting his demands at least partly.

The sad reality of how this industry and others treat treat their available resources..

Barefootsies · 12-14-2008, 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by JamesK

You're an asshole, boss

Blingbaby · 12-14-2008, 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies

Absolutely correct.

No matter how well paid, or treated. The 'boss' will always be an asshole. The reasons and rationale are endless.

Within reason yes. The soldier always grumbles. But it's a fine line between a grumbling soldier and a deserter. Or is it??

Barefootsies · 12-14-2008, 03:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Blingbaby

Within reason yes. The soldier always grumbles. But it's a fine line between a grumbling soldier and a deserter. Or is it??

I do not know about the whole 'fine line' argument. Some people are just quitters. Others are worker bees who will always bitch, but never leave. I know plenty of them on both sides.

Unfortunately for the quitters, they let their 'pride' get the best of them, and not make rationale decisions. Quitting or biting the hand that feeds them instead of sucking it up, biding your time, and making a better decision down the line. I know a TON of people in this category.

They burn every bridge on their way out of town. Not only do they lose in the short term, making no money. They lose in the long term when they need references for their next gig.

PRIDE has fucked up more deals in business then I can count. From models, to other companies, and many in between. PRIDE does not pay the bills.

Machete_ · 12-14-2008, 03:49 AM

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Originally Posted by EscortBiz

Some here fear asking employees to do shit or to work an extra hour or so because they will think your an asshole, for the record you will always be the asshole in the eyes on an employee and their family, your always the bad guy, the conversations employees have with their friends and family will always be how they run the whole show and how without them you are nothing, the conversation will always include stories how stupid you are and how you run your business very bad and ALWAYS their family will tickle their balls and agree and cry with them.

Times like these are times to put your company on a dialysis machine and get rid of bad blood and get in respectful fresh blood, the amount of quality talent out there who will appreciate a well paid position or any position for that matter is at an all time high.

And last but not least every programmer, designer, manager photo guy is replaceable, some here would collapse if you would hear how your lovely employee portrays you to their family and friends.

In all my years in business every time I talk to someone who works for somebody all I hear is bitching and moaning about how they are not happy with their job and their boss is a asshole and stingy and has no clue how to run things.

Bottom line is your always gonna be an asshole to those who work for you even if you treat them well and pay well, after all no one wants to work for somebody and everyone feels they are not appreciated, so you might as well stop trying to be mister nice guy and put your business first.

This is my tip of the year :-)

I dont agree.
A good boss is someone who focus on being a good BOSS and not a good FRIEND.
If the people working for you think you are a asshole, its because you are a poor boss (and maybe a asshole to)

Blingbaby · 12-14-2008, 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies

PRIDE has fucked up more deals in business then I can count. From models, to other companies, and many in between. PRIDE does not pay the bills.

But sometimes it saves your dignity, imagined or not. I guess it's a matter of priorities.

CherryV · 12-14-2008, 09:20 AM

I have had great bosses and shitty bosses.

Well I am mostly a freelancer but I consider my clients to be my bosses since they pay the bills.

My two main clients are total opposites of each other. One boss is a asshole without a clue and the other is fantastic.

So not all bosses are dicks.

LadyMischief · 12-14-2008, 09:39 AM

I've had my fair share of both kinds of bosses, but I have to say I am lucky now. If I have a genuine issue, I'm not afraid to take it to the top and know it's dealt with, and in return, I do the best possible job I can. I do the same for my staff, and they appreciate the open lines of communication. Often I find the bosses who are labeled assholes are the ones who feel they still have to micromanage everything even after they have hired the best possible employees. In their minds, they are making sure the job gets done, but don't hire good people if you aren't going to give them the chance to do the work.

cykoe6 · 12-14-2008, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by EscortBiz

Some here fear asking employees to do shit or to work an extra hour or so because they will think your an asshole, for the record you will always be the asshole in the eyes on an employee and their family, your always the bad guy, the conversations employees have with their friends and family will always be how they run the whole show and how without them you are nothing, the conversation will always include stories how stupid you are and how you run your business very bad and ALWAYS their family will tickle their balls and agree and cry with them.

Times like these are times to put your company on a dialysis machine and get rid of bad blood and get in respectful fresh blood, the amount of quality talent out there who will appreciate a well paid position or any position for that matter is at an all time high.

And last but not least every programmer, designer, manager photo guy is replaceable, some here would collapse if you would hear how your lovely employee portrays you to their family and friends.

In all my years in business every time I talk to someone who works for somebody all I hear is bitching and moaning about how they are not happy with their job and their boss is a asshole and stingy and has no clue how to run things.

Bottom line is your always gonna be an asshole to those who work for you even if you treat them well and pay well, after all no one wants to work for somebody and everyone feels they are not appreciated, so you might as well stop trying to be mister nice guy and put your business first.

This is my tip of the year :-)

You could not be more correct about this. It is a lesson that I have learned the hard way over a number of years.

Joesho · 12-14-2008, 09:43 AM

100% correct! This is a wise tip for any small business guys looking to grow. Use it , it will save your ass in the long run!

Drake · 12-14-2008, 11:48 AM

I think you're probably right. It goes with the territory. Most people hate their jobs period (polls have shown this consistently), so most are going to dislike the boss and everything he/she represents. Most people don't enjoy getting up 5 or more days a week to work and be told what to do. From my own experience, I've never enjoyed my job(s) - I'd rather play all day - but I've been relatively indifferent to bosses. I've never had a bad boss. I've never been treated harshly, unfairly, etc. I've never had a female boss either so I've never been able to test if I have a gender bias.

An employee also lacks information to decide when the boss is being a slave driver or not because they don't have access to the bottom line. When the boss asks you for the extra hour or to get something done, it could be crucial to the business or it could be the boss is just a hardass. The employee does not know so will usually judge the boss as a hardass not realizing how important it is.

In larger companies, I think a lot of employees never make the connection that the more successful the company is, the better the chances of them having a job to go to every day. I recall my dad who worked at a company for years. When employees found out that the plant was likely to close due to outsourcing, production from that plant skyrocketed overnight. In other words, even with good pay and good treatment, workers did the bare minimum and only actually worked when they thought it could potentially save the plant from closure.

Phoenix · 12-14-2008, 11:50 AM

for the most part probably true as i think it is human nature, and you hear it from other employees.

i've been lucky in the past and been able to learn lots from some stellar employers.

Barefootsies · 12-14-2008, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Blingbaby

But sometimes it saves your dignity, imagined or not. I guess it's a matter of priorities.

'dignity' doesn't pay the bills.

tony286 · 12-14-2008, 11:58 AM

I have to disagree in fact Im very close friends with my old boss. He was a great boss and a great mentor.I have been friendly with all my old employers, I could go visit any of them and get a very warm welcome.

mrwilson · 12-14-2008, 12:03 PM

I love my boss (not in a gay way)

Yeh he reads this board

But still, he is a great guy.
We work side by side with most things and he appreciates the work i do.
I have no reason at all to think of him as an asshole or anything other

amacontent · 12-14-2008, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by EscortBiz

lol good one and good for you nothing beats being your own boss :-) most here who would attemp that will end up in a cardboard box

I happen to love my cardboard box

tony286 · 12-14-2008, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by mrwilson

I love my boss (not in a gay way)

Yeh he reads this board

But still, he is a great guy.
We work side by side with most things and he appreciates the work i do.
I have no reason at all to think of him as an asshole or anything other

thats how I always felt and if he was a dick I didnt stay so no need to bitch about him. lol

rowan · 12-14-2008, 12:26 PM

I had limited experience before ditching the employer-employee model and working for myself. It's 50/50: one asshole boss (a restaurant), one great boss (commercial wing of a university). The former encouraged me to clean the fucking place up, the latter encouraged me to think, innovate and extend myself.

Drake · 12-14-2008, 12:28 PM

It's certainly not always the case, but probably more often than not. My mom was good friends with her boss, her and others in the office did activities their boss outside of work regularily. He was a decent person.

2012 · 12-14-2008, 12:31 PM

so the ASSHOLE bosses agree
*everyone else no.

got it.

thanks for the heads up

CurrentlySober · 12-14-2008, 01:02 PM

I dont worry about bosses...

I just like poo...

mrwilson · 12-14-2008, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

thats how I always felt and if he was a dick I didnt stay so no need to bitch about him. lol

Im not one to bitch about people, especially behind their back.
If i think some ones a dick i will come straight out and tell them lol

There is more to life then crying.

BVF · 12-14-2008, 01:17 PM

There's a difference between an employer and a supervisor...My last job that I had in 2002 was at the Post Office...So I didn't even really have a direct supervisor...As long as I did what I was supposed to do and showed up on time, I had no problems...Therefore, I was a good employee...

Now if I was working for a small family business or for one person, things might be different...I would have not only my boss, but the owner up in my face all day and I would be constantly reminded that the only reason that I'm there is to make the owner money...I don't think I could work DIRECTLY under someone unless it was on a contract basis because I have an arrogant attitude and that doesn't work in small work environments...I need a large group of people where I can just blend in and do my work.

It's just different when you're seeing the actual owner making money and living it up while you slave than when you're in a govt agency or a big corporation working under a supervisor who doesn't have anymore interest in the businesses well being than you do...

12-14-2008, 09:20 AM	#61
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12-14-2008, 09:39 AM	#62
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12-14-2008, 09:43 AM	#64
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12-14-2008, 11:48 AM	#65
Drake Hello world! Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 12,508	I think you're probably right. It goes with the territory. Most people hate their jobs period (polls have shown this consistently), so most are going to dislike the boss and everything he/she represents. Most people don't enjoy getting up 5 or more days a week to work and be told what to do. From my own experience, I've never enjoyed my job(s) - I'd rather play all day - but I've been relatively indifferent to bosses. I've never had a bad boss. I've never been treated harshly, unfairly, etc. I've never had a female boss either so I've never been able to test if I have a gender bias. An employee also lacks information to decide when the boss is being a slave driver or not because they don't have access to the bottom line. When the boss asks you for the extra hour or to get something done, it could be crucial to the business or it could be the boss is just a hardass. The employee does not know so will usually judge the boss as a hardass not realizing how important it is. In larger companies, I think a lot of employees never make the connection that the more successful the company is, the better the chances of them having a job to go to every day. I recall my dad who worked at a company for years. When employees found out that the plant was likely to close due to outsourcing, production from that plant skyrocketed overnight. In other words, even with good pay and good treatment, workers did the bare minimum and only actually worked when they thought it could potentially save the plant from closure. Last edited by Drake; 12-14-2008 at 11:49 AM..

12-14-2008, 11:50 AM	#66
Phoenix BACON BACON BACON Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Poems everybody, the laddie fancies himself a poet Posts: 35,469	for the most part probably true as i think it is human nature, and you hear it from other employees. i've been lucky in the past and been able to learn lots from some stellar employers. __________________ Skype Phoenixskype1 Telegram PhoenixBrad https://quantads.io

12-14-2008, 11:58 AM	#68
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	I have to disagree in fact Im very close friends with my old boss. He was a great boss and a great mentor.I have been friendly with all my old employers, I could go visit any of them and get a very warm welcome.

12-14-2008, 12:03 PM	#69
mrwilson mrwilson 2.0 Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: ICQ: 465406783 Posts: 5,122	I love my boss (not in a gay way) Yeh he reads this board But still, he is a great guy. We work side by side with most things and he appreciates the work i do. I have no reason at all to think of him as an asshole or anything other

12-14-2008, 12:26 PM	#72
rowan Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 17,393	I had limited experience before ditching the employer-employee model and working for myself. It's 50/50: one asshole boss (a restaurant), one great boss (commercial wing of a university). The former encouraged me to clean the fucking place up, the latter encouraged me to think, innovate and extend myself.

12-14-2008, 12:28 PM	#73
Drake Hello world! Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 12,508	It's certainly not always the case, but probably more often than not. My mom was good friends with her boss, her and others in the office did activities their boss outside of work regularily. He was a decent person.

12-14-2008, 12:31 PM	#74
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12-14-2008, 01:17 PM	#77
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