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nico-t · 11-06-2008, 08:34 AM

baddog cannot debate, he only posts a single biased brainwashed hinting sentence without arguments, all the time.

PornNewz · 11-06-2008, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by nico-t

baddog cannot debate, he only posts a single biased brainwashed hinting sentence without arguments, all the time.

you nailed it!!!

Cyndalie · 11-06-2008, 09:16 AM

I wonder if Palin can see the missles from her house.

ContentSHOOTER · 11-06-2008, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

You are dumber than I thought. I apologize for underestimating your ignorance.

Everyone is clueless except you, is that what you're saying GRAMPS

cykoe6 · 11-06-2008, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by qwe

USA is in the shitter right now with trillions in debt, Russia is not in debt, they're rolling in oil money and will keep rolling because oil demand will not die anytime soon.... it's AMAZING to me how people in states get manipulated so easily by their own government.. USA goes fucks up bunch of countries for no reason, kill a bunch of people for no reason and that's ok because that's "democracy"... then fucking Georgia trained by states levels whole fucking town of innocent people overnight, Russians go help out South Asetia and CNN reports how Russians attacked Georgia...

so now USA says Russia is bad and should stop, and all European countries who are Bush puppets have to agree... they ask Russia to leave, Russian's do leave Georgia, then Bush signs with Poland for a missile shield... so now Russia is pissed because all they did is protected their people, they say they will put a shield as well with a jammer, so now everybody in states go OH NO THOSE COMMIES OMG THEY SO EVIL

... mannnnn, you people are so fucking stupid I have no words for you... Russia doesn't want to fight, Russia wants to leave in peace after so many fucking wars, but the damn USA doesn't give enough respect, they keep pushing buttons... and all the keyboard warriors here saying how USA will wipe out Russia, maybe they will do that BUT 90% of USA will be wiped out as well, Russia IS NOT Iraq or Iran... USA vs Russia means most of you will not exist anymore

what if Russia put missile defense system in Canada right now, how would you feel ?

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

NOOOway, did I read this correct? Weakness?

Here's the Russian Stock market:

www.rts.ru/en/classic
Hi: 2670.61 Low: 694.06

How would you like wake up one day and find out all your country's stock is now worth 70% less? ..and then find out that the bulk of the RUSSIAN investors cashed out and bought US treasury bonds.

Currency:
http://finance.yahoo.com/currency/co...submit=Convert

If you're not aware your country is repeating 1998 AGAIN... YOU heard here first. I bet in the next 120 days the Russian banking system will collapse AGAIN.

It is always amusing to hear Russians whose economy is in the midst of a catastrophic collapse running their mouths about how the US is going down the drain. Take a 20 minute drive outside of Moscow and see the villages with dirt roads and the millions of desperate people in crumbling Soviet housing blocks trying to get by on a few dollars a day and you will understand the real Russian economic situation.

I always wonder how these semi-literate, inbred Russian peasants manage to login to GFY in the first place. Likely they are in some crowded, dark internet cafe that smells of stale piss and warm vodka spending their last rubles so they can post about the coming demise of the American empire. You would be better off going to the corner kiosk and getting some more vodka so you can pass out peacefully in your cramped apartment you share with your mother, sister and grandmother (all your male family members having long since succumbed to alcoholism) so you can wake up tomorrow and continue your rantings against the evil Americans and their doomed empire.

My point was about the perception of weakness that the election of Obama gives to America's enemies and how it will encourage them to make more aggressive maneuvers. The Russian people may be pathetic alcoholic peasants but Tzar Putin is a strong and determined leader who will run circles around an inexperienced, platitude spouting, empty suit like Obama.

Snake Doctor · 11-06-2008, 11:18 AM

If this is a big deal I wonder why the U.S. press hasn't picked up the story and run with it.

The article baddog posted (from a .co.uk url I believe) is the only thing I've seen about it.

cykoe6 · 11-06-2008, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Snake Doctor

If this is a big deal I wonder why the U.S. press hasn't picked up the story and run with it.

The article baddog posted (from a .co.uk url I believe) is the only thing I've seen about it.

Here it is in the New York Times:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/06/wo...&oref =slogin

Brujah · 11-06-2008, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by nico-t

baddog cannot debate, he only posts a single biased brainwashed hinting sentence without arguments, all the time.

You have to give him some time to Google it. It's not easy replying with unique vague answers all the time.

Brujah · 11-06-2008, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

Oh forgot to add... look on the front of www.drudgereport.com Nice democracy Russia has going there.

The paper said Putin, who is currently prime minister, could then rule for two six year terms, so from 2009 to 2021. The paper cited Putin's spokesman as saying he saw no reason for Putin to return to power in 2009.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20081106/...medvedev_putin

cykoe6 · 11-06-2008, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Brujah

The paper said Putin, who is currently prime minister, could then rule for two six year terms, so from 2009 to 2021. The paper cited Putin's spokesman as saying he saw no reason for Putin to return to power in 2009.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20081106/...medvedev_putin

Putin does not need to return to power as he is currently in power.

BobG · 11-06-2008, 03:18 PM

McCain would have already ordered a surge of unarmed humvees and body armorless troops to be there for 100 years to defeat and destroy the evil Russians.

buzzy · 11-06-2008, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by cykoe6

It is always amusing to hear Russians whose economy is in the midst of a catastrophic collapse running their mouths about how the US is going down the drain. Take a 20 minute drive outside of Moscow and see the villages with dirt roads and the millions of desperate people in crumbling Soviet housing blocks trying to get by on a few dollars a day and you will understand the real Russian economic situation.

I always wonder how these semi-literate, inbred Russian peasants manage to login to GFY in the first place. Likely they are in some crowded, dark internet cafe that smells of stale piss and warm vodka spending their last rubles so they can post about the coming demise of the American empire. You would be better off going to the corner kiosk and getting some more vodka so you can pass out peacefully in your cramped apartment you share with your mother, sister and grandmother (all your male family members having long since succumbed to alcoholism) so you can wake up tomorrow and continue your rantings against the evil Americans and their doomed empire.

My point was about the perception of weakness that the election of Obama gives to America's enemies and how it will encourage them to make more aggressive maneuvers. The Russian people may be pathetic alcoholic peasants but Tzar Putin is a strong and determined leader who will run circles around an inexperienced, platitude spouting, empty suit like Obama.

Sorry if i'm wrong but isn't that Russian in your sig?

Brujah · 11-06-2008, 03:57 PM

Obama isn't doing it alone. He'll also have his cabinet. He's also got an experienced vice president. Plenty of experienced advisors. He's intelligent. Don't worry about him going head to head with Putin.

crockett · 11-06-2008, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Let the fun begin.

You really think Russia over night decided to just on a whim to deploy their missiles? No they have been planing it for weeks and would have done it regardless of whom was voted into office.

Do you not recall their deployment into the waters just south of the US over the last month or so? Do you not remember their restarting of bomber flights months ago? Russia is feeling inadequate in the world these days and are trying to do anything to be noticed.

Ethersync · 11-06-2008, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by cykoe6

Putin does not need to return to power as he is currently in power.

cykoe6 · 11-06-2008, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by buzzy

Sorry if i'm wrong but isn't that Russian in your sig?

Very observant.

pigman · 11-06-2008, 06:36 PM

Bush is still the president isn't he?

Brujah · 11-06-2008, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by pigman

Bush is still the president isn't he?

Only if something good happens.

baddog · 11-06-2008, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Jean-Francois

LAMO I love how bad pug will piss with some then ignore others

I have been away at a conference in NYC, flying across the country, and slammed with work. I do not have time to explain simple concepts. Either you get it or you don't.

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Originally Posted by Snake Doctor

If this is a big deal I wonder why the U.S. press hasn't picked up the story and run with it.

The article baddog posted (from a .co.uk url I believe) is the only thing I've seen about it.

I heard it on the early morning news (TV) while in NYC. I just found the first link and posted it here.

TTiger · 11-06-2008, 09:01 PM

no one talk about the russia, iran, china axis?
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php...an-Russia_axis
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...081601221.html

Dead · 11-06-2008, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Snake Doctor

If this is a big deal I wonder why the U.S. press hasn't picked up the story and run with it.

The article baddog posted (from a .co.uk url I believe) is the only thing I've seen about it.

Our press is to concerned with picking out a dog for the new pres and bashing Palin into the ground. Smoke and mirrors. Missiles being put into position are not going to trump the ratings.

_Richard_ · 11-06-2008, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by qwe

what if Russia put missile defense system in Canada right now, how would you feel ?

surprised at how well Canada can handle herself.

11-06-2008, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

I think Obama is far from weak and they will regret trying to play him. He said it last night, he isnt going to fuck around.

They all say they are not going to fuck around. Actions speak louder than words.

DWB · 11-06-2008, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

wow,

no offense to russians on this forum, but seriously why do these fucking assholes act this way?

Imagine if Russia planned to build an anti-missile system in Mexico sitting right across from the USA border. We would have already attacked them.

Remember when they were sending missiles to Cuba and we almost went to war with them? They invaded our personal space and we found it to be a threat, the same as they are threatened now because we are in their personal space putting up an anti-missile system that can strike down THEIR missiles.

I'm not sure why the USA thinks it can throw it's cock around the world and bully everyone around.

DWB · 11-06-2008, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Snake Doctor

If this is a big deal I wonder why the U.S. press hasn't picked up the story and run with it.

The article baddog posted (from a .co.uk url I believe) is the only thing I've seen about it.

My dear friend, you have much to learn about your country if you rely on American press to tell you the truth. They are probably just looking for a way to spin the story before they tell it to you.

If you want the real truth on international events, you need to turn off your American media and look outside of your country for true news. Look at how the rest of the world reports the news and you will get a better idea of what's really going on.

Though it started as a whack job of a media outlet, Al Jeezera is now a hard hitting news source that trumps CNN or FOX by a long shot. They tell all sided to a story and often break news before most US outlets do. Check them out.

cykoe6 · 11-06-2008, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

Imagine if Russia planned to build an anti-missile system in Mexico sitting right across from the USA border. We would have already attacked them.

Remember when they were sending missiles to Cuba and we almost went to war with them? They invaded our personal space and we found it to be a threat, the same as they are threatened now because we are in their personal space putting up an anti-missile system that can strike down THEIR missiles.

We are gong to have to agree to agree on this. The Russians don't have much choice but to respond to such an aggressive move from the US. I think the US is making the correct move to place the missiles (to counteract Iran), but the Russians don't have much choice but to respond or else look helpless. Putin certainly knows this. Of course Obama is so far out of his league when it comes to a geopolitical chess match with Putin that it would be funny if it was not so dangerous.

dav3 · 11-07-2008, 12:32 AM

It is all an illusion.

Thank you for playing along.

buzzy · 11-07-2008, 01:40 AM

You'd have to be incredibly naive to think the anti missile system is for defence against Iran. Iran's best missle can barley reach eastern europe.

cykoe6 · 11-07-2008, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by buzzy

You'd have to be incredibly naive to think the anti missile system is for defence against Iran. Iran's best missle can barley reach eastern europe.

You make a good point that Iran currently poses no threat to Europe. The missile defense system is primarily symbolic as an expression of US power in the region. But it would also be naive to assume the Iranians are standing still and are not developing a longer range ballistic missile along with their nuclear program. The Iranians have long stated their intention to have long range nuclear ballistic missile capability and they are doing everything they can to archive that as quickly as possible. Only the most naive apologist or a propagandist would try to suggest otherwise (which one are you Buzzy?).

At the same time it is perfectly understandable how an expression of US power in Poland would upset the Russians. Putin has no choice but to make some kind of symbolic response.

uno · 11-07-2008, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by cykoe6

We are gong to have to agree to agree on this. The Russians don't have much choice but to respond to such an aggressive move from the US. I think the US is making the correct move to place the missiles (to counteract Iran), but the Russians don't have much choice but to respond or else look helpless. Putin certainly knows this. Of course Obama is so far out of his league when it comes to a geopolitical chess match with Putin that it would be funny if it was not so dangerous.

Totally. It's not like Obama looked into Putin's eyes and saw his soul or anything.

buzzy · 11-08-2008, 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by cykoe6

You make a good point that Iran currently poses no threat to Europe. The missile defense system is primarily symbolic as an expression of US power in the region. But it would also be naive to assume the Iranians are standing still and are not developing a longer range ballistic missile along with their nuclear program. The Iranians have long stated their intention to have long range nuclear ballistic missile capability and they are doing everything they can to archive that as quickly as possible. Only the most naive apologist or a propagandist would try to suggest otherwise (which one are you Buzzy?).

At the same time it is perfectly understandable how an expression of US power in Poland would upset the Russians. Putin has no choice but to make some kind of symbolic response.

Can you blame the Iranians for wanting to advance their weaponary when they are weekly threatened by not only Israel but the USA also of a blitz on their country. Regardless what Ahmadinejad said about wiping the Israeli regime off the map, it dosen't add up to the countless times that the USA and Israel have threatened it.

The only reason the Zionist hawks are calling for Iran to be bombed is because they are a growing power, and soon enough they will be a threat to Israels military domination over the region, Israel can't stand the fact of not being the only total power in the region.

But the problem is...i think the Israelis have left it too late this time. An Attack on Iran now, rather than 6 years ago would equal devistating consequences for Israel and even it's existance. But then again this is the price you have to pay if you want an illegally manufactured expansionist state on someone elses land. Dog eat dog.

Doctor Dre · 11-08-2008, 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by cykoe6

The Russians can sense weakness. They know the election of Obama weakens the US and encourages its enemies. Now is the perfect time to make a move. The US public has decided they prefer to be liked rather than respected. I am sure that the various global powers have received the message that the US is no longer to be feared. The election of Obama was the equivalent of waving a big white flag to our enemies. That is why the enemies of the US were so supportive of electing Obama and why they were celebrating last night and making their plans this morning.

Dumbass thinking.

You guys kill me sometimes.

Gambrinus · 11-08-2008, 11:16 AM

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7717669.stm

Obama 'to honour' missile plans

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US President-elect Barack Obama will go ahead with plans to build part of a controversial missile defence system on Polish soil, Poland has announced.

President Lech Kaczynski's office said the pledge was made during a telephone conversation between the two men.

Russia opposes the US plans, and early this week said it planned to deploy missiles on Poland's border and electronically jam the US system.

This is the first signal that Mr Obama plans to continue George Bush's policy.

During the US election campaign, Mr Obama said he wanted to review the system to build a missile defence system in central Europe to ensure it would be effective and would not target Russia.

Moscow says the plan to locate 10 interceptor missiles in northern Poland and a tracking radar in the Czech Republic will do exactly that.

In his first state of the nation address earlier this week, Russian President Dmitri Medvedev said Moscow would neutralise the system by deploying short-range missiles in its western enclave of Kaliningrad on Poland's border.

The US military insists the shield is incapable of destroying Russian rockets and is designed solely to knock down long-range missiles fired from the Middle East.

This is also the first signal from the US president-elect that he has no intention of backing down in the face of the Russian threats.

buzzy · 11-08-2008, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Gambrinus

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7717669.stm

Obama 'to honour' missile plans

Change

Drake · 11-08-2008, 11:57 AM

I guess that news will please Republicans. He's showing he's not "weak".

seeandsee · 11-08-2008, 12:02 PM

time for ww3

cykoe6 · 11-08-2008, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by buzzy

Can you blame the Iranians for wanting to advance their weaponary when they are weekly threatened by not only Israel but the USA also of a blitz on their country. Regardless what Ahmadinejad said about wiping the Israeli regime off the map, it dosen't add up to the countless times that the USA and Israel have threatened it.

Of course I don't blame the Iranians for wanting to have nuclear weapons and long range missile delivery systems. It would vastly increase their power in the region and their bargaining power worldwide. At the same time I don't blame the US, the Israelis and the Saudis from wanting to stop them. The US is fighting a proxy war with Iran in Iraq as we speak. The Israelis have been fighting a proxy war with Iran (through Hezbollah, Hamas and Islamic Jihad) for a very long time. The Saudi leadership fears Iranian and Shia domination in the region. They all have very good reasons to fear Iran going nuclear.

Like many conflicts there are many sides and many interested parties. As an American I support the US and Israel in this conflict. You support Iran, Syria, Hezbollah, etc. along with many others who feel the same. Obviously Iran going nuclear will be a huge victory (both politically and strategically) for militant Islam while at the same time represent a huge setback for the Western interests which are are battling against it. Neither side has a monopoly on righteousness. In a battle for survival people must pick sides. I know what side I am on. You know what side you are on.

buzzy · 11-08-2008, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by cykoe6

Of course I don't blame the Iranians for wanting to have nuclear weapons and long range missile delivery systems. It would vastly increase their power in the region and their bargaining power worldwide. At the same time I don't blame the US, the Israelis and the Saudis from wanting to stop them. The US is fighting a proxy war with Iran in Iraq as we speak. The Israelis have been fighting a proxy war with Iran (through Hezbollah, Hamas and Islamic Jihad) for a very long time. The Saudi leadership fears Iranian and Shia domination in the region. They all have very good reasons to fear Iran going nuclear.

Like many conflicts there are many sides and many interested parties. As an American I support the US and Israel in this conflict. You support Iran, Syria, Hezbollah, etc. along with many others who feel the same. Obviously Iran going nuclear will be a huge victory (both politically and strategically) for militant Islam while at the same time represent a huge setback for the Western interests which are are battling against it. Neither side has a monopoly on righteousness. In a battle for survival people must pick sides. I know what side I am on. You know what side you are on.

I disagree. It's far from being black and white as you portray it. I support justice, so if i feel that someone is being dealt with unjustly i will support them. The problem i see with Israel calling for Iran to stop it's (non-existant) nuclear problem is that Israel has hundreds of nukes of its own.

Rui · 11-08-2008, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by nico-t

btw the russians are playing this exactly like the american warlords they only use a little less politicaly correct talk. Turn the tables on the situation, if the russians would place a missile shield in mexico how would the US react?

see the big picture here its all a game of money and power and we the public are being brainwashed and conditioned into supporting war. Im astonished some people in this thread still fall for it, havent you learned anything from all the wars?

Stop making sense in a thread full and dedicated to non-sense

cykoe6 · 11-08-2008, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by buzzy

I disagree. It's far from being black and white as you portray it. I support justice, so if i feel that someone is being dealt with unjustly i will support them. The problem i see with Israel calling for Iran to stop it's (non-existant) nuclear problem is that Israel has hundreds of nukes of its own.

I am not saying it is black and white at all. That is the whole point. There are valid points on both sides. It is you who claims one side is black and the other white. It is you who can only see "right and wrong" rather than competing interests battling for power, resources and influence. The are plenty of legitimate grievances on both sides of all conflicts. It is only in the movies or the mind of a child that life gets divided up between "good and evil" or "victims and oppressors". In the real world there is usually plenty of evil on both sides.

buzzy · 11-08-2008, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by cykoe6

Like many conflicts there are many sides and many interested parties. As an American I support the US and Israel in this conflict. You support Iran, Syria, Hezbollah, etc.

That's black and white cykoe. Up and down, left and right, tea or coffee, Iran and Israel.

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