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My Thoughts About The Max Case.
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FROM THE TRENCHES BY: Dave Cummings ? Porn Star/Director-Producer For the last 5-6 years, I?ve worried about free speech in Houston and elsewhere because of the way some politicians have proposed/erected roadblocks in the form of intrusive legislation against adult entertainment. It has certainly seemed one-sided, hypocritical, and out-of-touch with serving the public. Because of a recent so-called ?jury? decision, I?m now also concerned about the city of Tampa where it seems that some jurists reportedly felt pressured by other members of the jury during recent deliberations incident to government charges against Max Hardcore concerning obscenity and shipments of his adult videos productions. Now, I admittedly don?t personally get sexual pleasure out of the Max Hardcore videos, but, like all Americans, he?s entitled to free speech. Max has many fans of his work, so there must be demand for his video content. I wish the efforts put into ?getting? Max had instead been put into the fight against terrorism, drugs, child porn (90% of which originates in foreign countries like Russia), clergy sexual violations of minors, and other ?real? crimes. I sense that radical religious hypocrites are celebrating that they ?got? Max. But, I personally think they need to realize that curtailing the rights of American adults to be entertained by other consenting adults doesn?t lesser the thirst or availability of Americans to access and enjoy Adult Entertainment. In the case of adult DVDs, taking down the ?porn? Industry won?t stop the normalcy of Americans desiring unfettered access to porn; instead, the void might well be filled by harsher ?Euro? porn from Eastern Europe, the former USSR, and other places where very ?hardcore? content will flood America, and its computer screens and other delivery platforms. ?Closing down? American porn does nothing, other than give the monetary economics of the porn business to non-Americans. What happened in Tampa recently seems UN-AMERICAN ? no one on a jury should feel pressured by other jury members, or anyone else, to convict! We presently have Americans fighting and dying overseas in wars. Their efforts, along with the people involved in other past conflicts, are contributing towards the continued preservation of our American freedoms. One of those precious freedoms is the right to continued free speech, and to privacy, and security. Politicians in power, as well as government entities at all levels, need to realize that they cannot allow themselves to be ?pushed? by campaign contributors, religious hypocrites, or other politicians who ?feel? a need to make citizens comply with their own personal religious standards, NOT EVEN AS IT RELATES TO ADULT ENTERTAINMENT! Candidly, I?m feeling almost as much concerned about the potential for loss of personal freedoms at the hands of our own government and/or American politicians and/or radical religious hypocrites, as I am about radical religious terrorists. The upcoming elections might alleviate some of the above, but we ALL need to become informed VOTERS. Please VOTE!!!!!! Dave Cummings, www.davecummings.com / www.davecummings.tv
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Salutes you! Lt. Colonel Cummings!
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Great article, Dave.....
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Why in particular are you concerned about the city of Houston? What's going on there that makes it different than other cities?
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Well I got my thoughts to.
Here it is. The video taping of simulated Sex crime should be deemed obscene when the whole of the depiction is of such, that is what the law says. In court the concept of "The work as a whole" assist's in legitamizing mainstream movies that may have a depiction of a violent sex crime, however the whole of the work is not of the sex crime itself. Max Hardcore's movies are often based on sex crimes that are for the most part "The whole of the work" is the depiction of sex crimes. Whther the actors are acting or not the whole of the work still remains the depiction of sex crime. Ranging from underage sex, to violent sex and often both with incestuous undertones. Of which are truly illegal. Paying bums to fight each other for media profit and distribution was found as a crime and Many of Max Hardcore titles fall in the same line. Standing up for scum bags like Max Hardcore that hide behind the "Freedom Of Speech" is nothing more than a diabolical perversion to justify making buck off of underpaid desperate models, coke whores and whores exploiting them and distributing the work for a buck. That is not freedom of speech it is exploitation and the sales of criminal sexual activity bottom line.
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Great entry Dave, unfortunately this country has always been one of double standards. Its almost like California, where on a state scale it is legal to smoke marijuana for medical use as long as you have the proper clearance from an approved doctor. But on a federal basis you can be tried and convicted based upon how much marijuana you have on yourself at any given time. There are tons of marijuana smokers sitting in jail right now because of this very reason.
In my opinion its damn near impossible to invoke such broad laws to an entire country as large as the USA. You are bound to have states like Florida go against the norm and try and act as if what Max was doing was a crime. The same thing happened to the girls gone wild guy, he was tried and convicted and served jail time because of the same type of people who reside in Florida. There needs to be a line drawn somewhere and freedom of speech should allow Max to appeal the court's decision. |
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Personally, the thing that bothers me the most is that reportedly three jurors allowed themselves to be bullied into a guilty verdict.
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Witness to Jury Member(s?) Feeling Pressured to Convict!
Here's the documentation about the pressure on some jurists to convict---it's in the bottom half of this AVN posting from Mark Kernes (who apparently personally witnessed the comments?) ---- http://www.avn.com/law/articles/30615.html
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or offering sex for money in the clubs. its both.
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Hopefully, voting out the subjective radical religious legislators might keep cases from having laws passed that cause the trials, thus no trials and resultingly no jury members would get to the point of having there arms twisted by others on the same panel. Let's all get all our website members and surfers to vote!
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I do not think video's depicting or portraying criminal based sex is good for anyone. The Depicting of underage models ( Under age or not ), rape, snuff, violence in visual detail should be illegal. It is illegal in the real world and a work as a whole depicting every detail of under age sex, rape, violent sex, battery, choking does not have any place in adult entertainment. It's just my philosophy and my opinion however I do agree with Max Hardcore being prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. The legal system is working as intended, media has no business working this kind of thing for profit. Max Hardcore needs therapy, I have done lot's of therapy I know a fucken case when I see it and he is a guy that definatly needs help. Having a raging hard on fucking an appearent underage teen whose asshole is bleeding while she cries the whole time is absolutly sick. The guy needs help thats not good acting you see.
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PS: Dave Cummings you ever seen Max hardcores stuff?
I sat and watched a couple of his movies before passing my own judgement about his "Work". I think you might want to see a few of his titles before standing up for this guy. Anyoen in thier right mind that has seen Max Hardcores stuff will find themselves thinking like I do on the matter. I stand strong with freedom of speech but the concept of freedom of speech is in regards to political functiona and establishments, not media production of criminal activity or depictions of criminal activity. The concept of freedom of speech has been perverted and hiding behind it to excuse criminal activity for a buck is cowardly. If the shit being portrayed in the real world is illegal depicting it as a whole within a production ought be illegal as well. I know many films have depicted criminal sexual violence in some films but as whole the work of the film does not base the entirety of content being the criminal act.
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Also Dave Cummings I know the kind of movies you make, never once have I seen or heard of you beating or hurting any of the hot girls in your movies.
And an older guy having sex with a legal teen is perfectly fine. I have not seen all your work but I know that you do not push the issue of portraying underage sex, or violence to make a buck. Sure an old guy having sex with strapping hot teen is shocking but it is not illegal or violent in the eyes of the law in real life or film. I hope that shows my position on this subject or at least explaines it.
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I think it's funny the number of people that qualify, "but I don't like his stuff" whenever they say anything to his support.
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Read my post again. Awright let me say it again in regards to BDSM. BDSM with Blood letting, simulated blood letting, beatings, scarification and rape simulation ought to be declared obscene. Depicting violent sex, rape which in itself has nothing to do with Bondage or true BDSM relations. Personally my favorite sort of BDSM is the kind that gives no sexual satisfaction to the subject. BDSM is not sexually violent if it is true BDSM. Do you know what real BDSM is? It's not about sex whats so ever but the development of accepting who is master and who is servant while developing trust, it has nothing to do with sex. Just thought I would point that out since you seem to have a lack of understanding of what Bondage is about.
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This discussion is over, you are becomming ignorant and trying to draw a line where there is not one. Forced Sex. Illegal. Understand?
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Damn edits - you added to bdsm. There is no forced sex if people agree ahead of time and there is a saftey or stop word or action.
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yeah, but we're talking about simulated forced sex here. they've consented to physical and sexual "abuse" from another person. you could also draw a comparison between BDSM and KIDNAPPING if consent means nothing. btw, just because you think you know what BDSM is doesnt make you right. both participants get a sexual pleasure out of the act whether they orgasm or not. its EROTIC ROLL PLAYING between consenting adults. BDSM isnt someone forcing another to take out the garbage or wash a car but rather fulfill a sexual desire be it tied up, tied DOWN, ball gag in the mouth or whatever else THEY WANT IT TO BE. maybe someday you'll realize that certain words describing a wide array of activities cant be then narrowed down to exactly what you decide it should be.
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You claimed to know true BDSM yet felt in your delusional reality that you could exclude major portions of it and that BDSM should not have any punishment, violence, bloodletting, spanking, and other shit. Yeah I have read about and it just goes to show how much of a fool you really are.
You jump into every one of these types of threads with your hardcore my way is the only way beliefs and proceed to get beat down and shown your true ignorance and you default back to the same arguments over and over. Then your arguments in different threads and under different topics conflict with each other. As it stands apparently you are pro violence, rape, and everything else possible if they are from the middle east so perhaps your opinions on max would of changed to defending him if he just used Muslim women.
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[QUOTE=AlienQ;14294485]PS: Dave Cummings you ever seen Max hardcores stuff?
Per my 2d paragragh in my initial post--which said--"Because of a recent so-called ?jury? decision, I?m now also concerned about the city of Tampa where it seems that some jurists reportedly felt pressured by other members of the jury during recent deliberations incident to government charges against Max Hardcore concerning obscenity and shipments of his adult videos productions. Now, I admittedly don?t personally get sexual pleasure out of the Max Hardcore videos, but, like all Americans, he?s entitled to free speech. Max has many fans of his work, so there must be demand for his video content. I wish the efforts put into ?getting? Max had instead been put into the fight against terrorism, drugs, child porn (90% of which originates in foreign countries like Russia), clergy sexual violations of minors, and other ?real? crimes." ---yes, I've seen a little of his work, enough to sexually turn me off to his content; but, no one, including Max IMHO, should be the victim of what this jury "apparently" did (per the link I provided earlier to the AVN/Mark Kernes report of the pressure applied to one or more jury members---see the link in Posting #11 above.
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From Tony's link... Fascinating shit...
"In a move that looked as though he was trying to 'soften' her up to film more scenes, Dick took Felicity to meet Max Hardcore. Within minutes of walking into Max's house, he had her knickers down, her skirt up, bent her over a table and started penetrating her with his oiled-up semi-erect penis. While this went on Felicity giggled nervously, looked embarrasedly at the documentary makers, and generally gave the impression that this wasn't a typical p0rno audition. (am I right or wrong about that?) The next day Felicity agreed to return to Max's house for a film scene (Why? This was never made clear, surely a fluffer job would have been preferable?). She got dressed up in Max's typical 'jail-bait' uniform of very high heels, & tiny, too-small skirt and top, she was also made up to look like a pre-pubescent school girl attempting to catch the eye of the latest teen idol. The film blacked out dramatically while the scene was being shot, until it was broken by the sounds of Felicity screaming and sobbing. The film started up again and Felicity was seen running away, naked with tears streamimng down her face. The voice-over then said that Max had attempted to force his fist into Felicity's mouth. Max attempted to placate Felicity as, between sobs, she stated that she wanted to go home. Max's mood changed from one of sympathy and compassion to anger really quickly. He shouted at Felicity that she would never work in LA again, and that she was useless, ugly etc etc. Strangely this caused Felicity to agree to continue with the film, at this stage the documentary crew stepped in and escorted Felicity back to her hotel, with the voice-over explaining that they had thought the episode had appeared to them as nothing more than an organised, paid-for rape. All strong stuff, and following the transmission of the film websites and forums erupted with indignation and disgust, years later some still are. Following this his profile in the UK sky-rocketed, which made me think that it was all a set-up to boost his sales in the UK, why else would a girl that refused to do anal be taken to meet a guy who never does a scene without anal? Was she going to be subjected to an anal pounding regardless of what she wanted? Or was the fact that having a film crew present allow Max and Dick to make themselves a 60 minute advert for their work to be broadcast free of charge on UK television?" People Standing up for this mother fucking sick scum bag... You people should be ashamed of yourselves. Let em fry. Nice link Tony.
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FROM Roxy Jezel on that page:
"hi my name is roxy jezel, and i once did a scene with max hardcore, who is an evil, manipulitive paedophile. To answer some of your questions, i totally believe that felicity was brought to max, despite not even doing anal. Because my scene with him was just a blow job, and a memory i wish to never remember.I dont like dick nasty, he is an old pervert, who tries to fuck you even when the camera isnt rolling, total sleaze. what you saw on that documentary was all real and true!!!! that is what he is like, he is so nice to you and as soon as the camera rolls he turns into a evil, misoginistic bastard. He held me in that max position on the sofa, and i was kicking and buckingf to get him off me, and he held my arms down so i couldnt get free. i was covered in my own salavia and bile, and couldnt open my eyes, i was in shock, and scared, and then he pissed on me, that was never agreed upon, i think thats so gross. The reason he has so many new comers, on his movies is beause they dont know any better, i didnt know, who he is, or what his movies entail. They havent done enough scenes to know they never have to work for him, and if you have a crappy agent like dick nasty, who only gets you the lowest of low, type work, you are innocent and naive when you enter the industry. But most girls dont want to admit this espechailly when something this tramatic happens to us, we just carry on, and learn. But some girls, they experience him as an intro into the business and are traumatised and never do it again. they arent just prostitutes from the street. not that i think anyway. After he gets you to do a disclaimer on video saying that you agreed to do this, and you are so in shock, and dont want to process what just really took place, you are filled with shame that you let this happen, that you just say what he tells you too. I cried for 2 days after what he did, i felt so stupid and disgusting, he knew he did wrong, he told me it would be a simple easy blowjob scene, he exact words, that wasnt an ordinary scene. My agent derek from Direct models called him and shgouted at him, and he paid me $1000 extra to say sorry, he knew he was wrong. Now4 years later im a contract girl for clubjenna and i would tell any girl entering the industry to nver work for him, and to get a good agent, not dick nasty."
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Ive heard stories but you never know.I read that shit and it turned my stomach. Maybe one of the reasons his shit is so disturbing is for the most part its real.
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extremes will always exist and focusing your attack on those extremes hurts us as a whole. if max and his kind disappeared tomorrow, the government will just move one notch down on the obscenity ladder going after gay, dp, bdsm, and anything else it can use to shock jurors into creating legal presidence. THEY HAVE AN AGENDA and everything you LOVE is on that list... a target for a later date. my opinion; if someone consents to something that wont cause permanent damage, so be it. its their choice, let them make it.
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I am not sure why there is any discussion about whether you approve of the content or not, whether you like Max personally or not, whether you are sticking up for him or not.
His conviction is not good for adult. It sucks that he was test case, but pretty sure they picked him for a reason. The question should be, now what? |
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If you have worked in LA in adult for more than 5 mins, you know the deal already and so does Mr Cummings. Ive heard the stories and Im in fucking Atlanta. Im sure as shit you guys who are around fucking porn mecca have heard a bigger earful than I ever heard.
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Yes, "now what?"
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You are a wise man, Dave. I appreciate your thoughtful comments, and agree with your conclusion that domestic religious fundamentalists are much more dangerous to our freedom than foreign ones!
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isnt it funny on threads like this all the rightwing porners become for quite.
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SO you stand up for a guy's movies that are straight up rape video's, that pay's hush fee's for $1000.00 to unknowing models. A number of girls have said the same thing as Roxy Jezel, who works at Club Jenna. They are essentially raped and then made into a movie and thats OK with you? Crying two days after shoot from the shock of being so humiliated and physically abused is good for our industry? Is it really? Answer that.
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Max's shit excuse for making money is not a test case, it's straight up the way the law is supposed to be working, he needed to go down a long fucking time before it became a case about even media distribution.
The guy hurts girls, thats a fact and if the law went to his other models as witness he would be in alot more shit than he is in.
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I'm sure someone will blame this on tube sites...
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