Originally Posted by bringer

im not standing up for HIM, im standing up for his movies. if everything you quoted hadnt happened; if he payed the model $5k to LET HIM DO EVERYTHING he did in the movie, never once complaining; would you still be complaining? the answer is yes! had you had that info before tony posted it you would of used it. the simple fact is you dont like what was shown on screen and are now grasping for straws to prove your point. if i make a video, like max made, with MY WIFE and we have a safe word thats never uttered, is it still bad in your eyes? even if after the fact she says "we do that all the time and i love it"? if his methods were your problem, why not attack those instead of whats portrayed in the videos? max wasnt charged with rape, he was charged with a bullshit obscenity charge. if whats described on that link is TRUE, she should of called the police and had him arrested. retraction of consent happens all the time and continuing IS RAPE.

extremes will always exist and focusing your attack on those extremes hurts us as a whole. if max and his kind disappeared tomorrow, the government will just move one notch down on the obscenity ladder going after gay, dp, bdsm, and anything else it can use to shock jurors into creating legal presidence. THEY HAVE AN AGENDA and everything you LOVE is on that list... a target for a later date.

my opinion; if someone consents to something that wont cause permanent damage, so be it. its their choice, let them make it.