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Webby · 10-07-2002, 08:27 PM

Swiftone:

"I love these statistics. The U.S. causes 90% of the worlds pollution, uses 102% of all natural resources, blah blah.

The fact is the Kyoto treaty placed unreasonable demands on America, and anyone can full well see that. There's no pointin arguing, because anyone can see that."

The "stats" ain't some shaved shit from a sponsor! *g* Tis well known and accepted by US as well.

Yes.. Kyoto did place "unreasonable demands" on the US.. and you can see why? There is obviously a "little" problem when 25% of the world's resources are consumed by one country with what is really a "small" population.

I agree it is a problem... but *someone* (forget the "President" - he's well gone already,) has got to start addressing the problem else you'll end up grasping for air to the gas station for the next fill-up of the SUV!

It is a slight problem!

Libertine · 10-07-2002, 08:27 PM

Ok, I lied. It wasn't my final post.

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Originally posted by Swiftone
That doesn't mean there is ANYTHING wrong with the American people though.

However, what does seem to mean that there is a lot wrong with the american people, is that they keep on yelling that just about every single country in the world should either be eradicated, flattened or nuked, and that the US are the rightful "rulers of the world". I'm sure there are lots of sensible people in the US (Gore got more votes than Bush, after all - by the way, nice electoral system), but they seem to refrain from talking most of the time.

insidethegame · 10-07-2002, 08:30 PM

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Originally posted by Webby
punkworld:

Nuke em? Hell bit drastic and you gonna kill more innocent folks?

Although.. think this world would be far safer having some more executions at Huntsville of the Bush Admin *lol*

To tell ya the truth, I now feel kinda sorry for the US, - I have many good friends there and this place is getting so fucked up - it is a joke! Gotta be the worst possible place, least in the western world, for any "freedoms" blah "that we value most dearly" .. Pity!

Notice its all the forgien Socialist Commies sayin this shit...

Webby · 10-07-2002, 08:32 PM

"Notice its all the forgien Socialist Commies sayin this shit..."

I am neither of the Communist or Socialist faith father!

Libertine · 10-07-2002, 08:33 PM

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Originally posted by bhutocracy
(long but very interesting post)

With this, I must agree. Taking Saddam out isn't necessarily a bad thing (it could even be a very good thing, if done right), however, the way the US are planning to do it will only bring more harm to the Iraqi population.

Libertine · 10-07-2002, 08:37 PM

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Originally posted by insidethegame
Notice its all the forgien Socialist Commies sayin this shit...

Just two days ago I finished a rather extensive paper on why neither communism nor socialism are viable political systems.
My political views would best be described as post-liberalist democratic.

Fletch XXX · 10-07-2002, 08:38 PM

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Originally posted by Webby

Wot is justice???

Justice during war is the last breath of your enemy.

Webby · 10-07-2002, 08:39 PM

"With this, I must agree. Taking Saddam out isn't necessarily a bad thing (it could even be a very good thing, if done right), however, the way the US are planning to do it will only bring more harm to the Iraqi population."

Agree! Saddam is an asshole.. little doubt! There is also a frenzy of bullshit propaganda about him that has little truth, (espcially coming from Bush). He (Saddam) is a genicide dealer and for the interests of many, tis better he leave.

However, sadly, I doubt that is the intention of the Bush Admin... they have more things at sake there than some nut, and the *sole* interest is in securing oil and a pipeline thru Iraq.

The "bombing" techique of the US is kinda old hat these days... it don't take 50 billion and many innocent lives to achieve this.

Webby · 10-07-2002, 08:40 PM

Say no more Fletch!

Amputate Your Head · 10-07-2002, 08:42 PM

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Originally posted by Webby

Wot is justice???

Justice is kicking in the door of Hussein's office with a fat cigar waiting to be lit, and a flamethrower strapped to your back.

Pleasurepays · 10-07-2002, 08:43 PM

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Originally posted by bhutocracy

Saddam is the only true beneficiary of the embargo, he has used it to centralise state power and reinforce his control over people's lives, with most Iraqis dependant on the state food rationing system for day to day survival organised political dissent doesn't exist - it's cancelled out by a hatred for us.. Iraq was pro-western before '91.

take Saddam out.. but for fucks sake.. leave the iraqi people.. who are as literate and advanced as me and you have suffered enough.. even with saddam gone they've still got to deal with the uranium contamination the '91 munitions caused...

actually, i would have to say that most of what you said was very fair and accurate.

insidethegame · 10-07-2002, 08:44 PM

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Originally posted by punkworld

Just two days ago I finished a rather extensive paper on why neither communism nor socialism are viable political systems.
My political views would best be described as post-liberalist democratic.

So what are you a high school student..know theres a real sense of experience and knowlege talking...LOLOL

Webby · 10-07-2002, 08:44 PM

Yea.. thought that was how the US justice system worked... Kinda backed up by Ashhahahahaha's activity in this "time of war"

However.. some actually have a justice system and they don't seem to need a flamethrower with em :-)

insidethegame · 10-07-2002, 08:46 PM

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Originally posted by Webby
"Notice its all the forgien Socialist Commies sayin this shit..."

I am neither of the Communist or Socialist faith father!

aaa...how bout liberal panty waste;)

bhutocracy · 10-07-2002, 08:46 PM

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Originally posted by punkworld

With this, I must agree. Taking Saddam out isn't necessarily a bad thing (it could even be a very good thing, if done right), however, the way the US are planning to do it will only bring more harm to the Iraqi population.

taking Saddam out will be a very difficult but hopefully a good thing.. he is the only thing stopping an islamic revolution in Iraq though.. when he's gone the puppet that the US installs probably won't be able to control religious fervour... we may end up with another saudi arabia - where most of the s/11 hijackers came from but a US controlled government.

also might i suggest that you refrain from telling americans "someone should nuke america".. how can that possibly add anything to the debate? what have the people of america done? nothing. America is a great country.. it's just that some of their foreign policy is horrible.. Most countrys' foreign policy has very, very bad points just that because america is bigger people see more of it.. Australia, England etc etc are just as bad.. your average person doesn't know what is being done in their name overseas. you should be just as critical of your own country.

PornoDoggy · 10-07-2002, 08:47 PM

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Originally posted by Webby
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However, sadly, I doubt that is the intention of the Bush Admin... they have more things at sake there than some nut, and the *sole* interest is in securing oil and a pipeline thru Iraq.
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I don't understand what you are trying to say, unless it's just "America Bad." Nobody denies that oil has something to do with it ... but all of it? Get real. I don't know where you are from, but there are few nations on the face of the earth that don't have scars or cemetaries left over from the last time people tried to negotiate with a maniac.

PornoDoggy · 10-07-2002, 08:48 PM

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Originally posted by insidethegame

aaa...how bout liberal panty waste;)

That would be different from, say, a reactionary alter boy to Rush Limbaugh seriously out of touch with reality?

Webby · 10-07-2002, 08:51 PM

"aaa...how bout liberal panty waste;)"

I come to the conclusion there is this party called "Americanism"... and fuck me, that does not have a nice face or ring to it. Tis a combination of "self", "greed", "arrogance", a sense of being "invincible" and a few other "qualiities" thrown in... Got nothing to do with "peace", "sharing" or compassion for anyone on this planet..... sad!!!

Liberal??? Na!!.. Call it more "common sense" than any political "leanings"....

insidethegame · 10-07-2002, 08:52 PM

Oh quite different,ones a VERY real threat to freedom...the other defends it.

Libertine · 10-07-2002, 08:52 PM

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Originally posted by insidethegame

So what are you a high school student..know theres a real sense of experience and knowlege talking...LOLOL

And exactly how much "experience" do you have concerning the subject at hand?

insidethegame · 10-07-2002, 08:53 PM

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Originally posted by Webby
"aaa...how bout liberal panty waste;)"

I come to the conclusion there is this party called "Americanism"... and fuck me, that does not have a nice face or ring to it. Tis a combination of "self", "greed", "arrogance", a sense of being "invincible" and a few other "qualiities" thrown in... Got nothing to do with "peace", "sharing" or compassion for anyone on this planet..... sad!!!

Liberal??? Na!!.. Call it more "common sense" than any political "leanings"....

With all due respect any sense you had was lost when you took up American Hatred.

Webby · 10-07-2002, 08:54 PM

*I don't understand what you are trying to say, unless it's just "America Bad." *

Na.. America... hell.. lets get it into proportion.. tis the US we are talking of (there is more to America than the US!) ... The US ain't bad! There are some in power that are... just fucking evil... that's about it!

insidethegame · 10-07-2002, 08:54 PM

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Originally posted by punkworld

And exactly how much "experience" do you have concerning the subject at hand?

more then a 12th grader;)

Webby · 10-07-2002, 08:57 PM

insidethegame:

I don't "hate" the US one bit!! Shit .. that is the excuse ya all come out with!!

As for common sense?... Reckon the majority on this planet have similar feelings about the US.. basically tis screwed! Has nothing to so with it's "citizens"... but a pile of total assholes they ya voted for!

bhutocracy · 10-07-2002, 08:57 PM

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Originally posted by Pleasurepays

actually, i would have to say that most of what you said was very fair and accurate.

r-c-e · 10-07-2002, 08:59 PM

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Originally posted by SextrafficPete
because they are out of control with their weapons and use them for the means of violence and destruction not to mention terror

Who is out of control? The guy sitting in his country with a few weapons or the guy about to blow the shit of him because he tried to kill his dad?

Lets think about this for a second.

insidethegame · 10-07-2002, 09:00 PM

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Originally posted by Webby
insidethegame:

I don't "hate" the US one bit!! Shit .. that is the excuse ya all come out with!!

As for common sense?... Reckon the majority on this planet have similar feelings about the US.. basically tis screwed! Has nothing to so with it's "citizens"... but a pile of total assholes they ya voted for!

Ahh the Ol' we love the american people but hate their government line...Used by Iran all those years while they had our hostages..Yea that makes "Sense"..Used by most totalitarin counties these days..LOLOL

Webby · 10-07-2002, 09:00 PM

Shit!

It always amazes me that some US folks have this "attitiude" when they don't agree, that the "opponent" is some "America Hater"!. Hell.. I don't give a fuck... and I sure don't "hate" anyone on this planet... I ain't got the time!

r-c-e · 10-07-2002, 09:01 PM

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Originally posted by SextrafficPete
i am game

hell, gas prices lower, that would be awesome

Yeah bring on another oil crisis, I'm game!

Yassi · 10-07-2002, 09:01 PM

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Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
Bush talks too much... we want SMACKDOWN!!!

Hell Yeah!

Let the show begin

Webby · 10-07-2002, 09:02 PM

*Ahh the Ol' we love the american people but hate their government line*

Now that bit ya call call wot you like... I do sure as hell despise the government of the US... they are a fucking blotch on this planet...

PornoDoggy · 10-07-2002, 09:03 PM

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Originally posted by insidethegame
Oh quite different,ones a VERY real threat to freedom...the other defends it.

Yeah ... I know. Frankly, my friend, anyone who believes that only their side respects or loves or defends freedom is a moron.

insidethegame · 10-07-2002, 09:03 PM

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Originally posted by Webby
Shit! It always amazes me that some US folks have this "attitiude" when they don't agree, that the "opponent" is some "America Hater"!. Hell.. I don't give a fuck... and I sure don't "hate" anyone on this planet... I ain't got the time!

Go analize your own posts little boy..I think at least "anger managment" classes are in order for ya regarding America;)

Webby · 10-07-2002, 09:04 PM

This mean we gotta listen to the ranting idiot on TV now and cheer ourselves into some frenzy for *someones* blood?... Fuck!

insidethegame · 10-07-2002, 09:05 PM

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Originally posted by PornoDoggy

Yeah ... I know. Frankly, my friend, anyone who believes that only their side respects or loves or defends freedom is a moron.

andI thought you liberals didnt use "personal attacks" ...sign of a loss of intellectual prowess isnt it;)

Webby · 10-07-2002, 09:06 PM

insidethegame:

Your "solution" is anger management????

Sheesh!! Nuff said!

Libertine · 10-07-2002, 09:06 PM

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Originally posted by bhutocracy

taking Saddam out will be a very difficult but hopefully a good thing.. he is the only thing stopping an islamic revolution in Iraq though.. when he's gone the puppet that the US installs probably won't be able to control religious fervour... we may end up with another saudi arabia - where most of the s/11 hijackers came from but a US controlled government.

That's why UN action mainly targetted at human rights is preferable to US action targetted mainly at oil money, with a small bit of "war on terror".

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Originally posted by bhutocracy

also might i suggest that you refrain from telling americans "someone should nuke america".. how can that possibly add anything to the debate? what have the people of america done? nothing. America is a great country.. it's just that some of their foreign policy is horrible.. Most countrys' foreign policy has very, very bad points just that because america is bigger people see more of it.. Australia, England etc etc are just as bad.. your average person doesn't know what is being done in their name overseas. you should be just as critical of your own country.

I said that merely to illustrate a point. Many americans seem to spend extensive amounts of time saying all countries not doing what they consider best should be nuked, flattened, etc. They never seem to consider that the people living in those countries are people just like them, and feel the same way as them about their country getting nuked, flattened, etc.
However, to say america is a great country seems a bit unjust. It's the richest country in the world, yet 13% of the people in the US are living in poverty. It has 5% of the world's population, yet produces 25% of the world's pollution. It is one of the few countries in the world that can sentence people to death for crimes committed when they were minors. It has a murder rate approx. 5 times as high as that of countries like the Netherlands and Japan. It threatened third world countries with severe economical sanctions if these countries were to ignore American farmaceutical companies' patents on AIDS-medicines because those companies were asking prices for those medicines that made it impossible for the people in those countries to buy them. And the list goes on...
I myself am very critical of my country's actions, however, the same can not be said about many americans.

PornoDoggy · 10-07-2002, 09:07 PM

Not at all ... I think a leftistl who believes that anyone to his/her right is a "capitalist facist warmongering exploiter of the masses" is every bit as moronic as someone who believes that those on the left aren't interested in freedom. A moron is a moron is a moron ....

insidethegame · 10-07-2002, 09:08 PM

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Originally posted by Webby
insidethegame:

Your "solution" is anger management????

Sheesh!! Nuff said!

Oh did I say anger managment...youd do better with a thorzine dip probably.

Amputate Your Head · 10-07-2002, 09:09 PM

Webby · 10-07-2002, 09:10 PM

punkworld:

That summarised the lot well! There are more issues at stake all round than some focus on one guys war.

Webby · 10-07-2002, 09:11 PM

insidethegame:

Grow up asshole

insidethegame · 10-07-2002, 09:12 PM

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Originally posted by Webby
insidethegame:

Grow up asshole

Webby eat shit commie!

Amputate Your Head · 10-07-2002, 09:13 PM

this thread is fun...

Webby · 10-07-2002, 09:13 PM

As you say Sir!

PornoDoggy · 10-07-2002, 09:14 PM

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Originally posted by punkworld

That's why UN action mainly targetted at human rights is preferable to US action targetted mainly at oil money, with a small bit of "war on terror".

The automatic assumption that this is "all about oil" or even "mostly about oil" is kinda lame, don't you think? The US/UN is bad because children have died as a result of his refusal to comply with the agreement HE MADE? His use of chemical/biological weapons against Iran and against other Iraqis is irrelevant? His invasion of Kuwait was "a mistake?"

And "UN action mainly targetted at human rights" is suddenly going to work, after the last 11 years, because .... ???

insidethegame · 10-07-2002, 09:14 PM

This capatalist asshole moron has to watch the rest of the ball game..I leave the floor to liberal commies and haters of all stripes;)

r-c-e · 10-07-2002, 09:15 PM

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Originally posted by SextrafficPete
lets be realistic. we don't know what saddam is up to, but we do know he is up to some sort of trouble.

should we deal with him now or after he has done something to us?

how old is he? how many more years does he have to go? you don't think he wants to go out with a bang??

what are we going to do if he launches some bio chemical attack against the usa or another country, then thousands die, and we said no we didn' t want to attack him

then what? more people die?

the middle east has always been a big problem and needs to be dealt with. i don't approve of bush dealing with this fiasco, he is like a 5 yr old at a toy store.

someone needs to deal with the middle east, and put them in their place. everybody knows this, and it has to happen. wether bush should be the one is up to congress and the people of the world.

sure more people will die, but how many will be saved from future actions by saddam?

you've got to think about the future...you'll be here to expierence it , and your kids

What exactly gives you the impression he is up to trouble? Several political analysts have discounted Blare's dossier on the Iraq situation as contain no real evidence, or should I say, no new evidence to suggest Suddam has been doing anything different than he has before this whole fiasco.

I'm not sure what you mean by putting the Middle East "in their place". They control the fuel that goes into your car, the plastics you use everyday, so I think, if anything, that the Middle East's "place" is in a position of power over the western world. Want this changed? Develop new forms of energy and materials and you can free yourself from the ties with the Middle East region.

This isn't directed at you, but rather than make a new post I will state it here. A lot of people have called into question the fact that Suddam is a dictator and that the people of Iraq dont want him in power. We all should know the fiasco that was the last United States elections. I'm not sure on exact details, but there was a lot of controversy about whether or not Bush was legally voted president, and the fact that the polls had the lowest turnout ever? Surely this isn't our beautiful democracy that we speak so highly of?

Webby · 10-07-2002, 09:16 PM

Sorry to see ya go my son!!

Enjoy the game!!

PornoDoggy · 10-07-2002, 09:17 PM

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Originally posted by insidethegame

Go analize your own posts little boy..I think at least "anger managment" classes are in order for ya regarding America;)

I don't think it's Anger management. I think some people need to realize the 60s are over.

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Webby Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Far far away - as possible Posts: 14,956	Swiftone: "I love these statistics. The U.S. causes 90% of the worlds pollution, uses 102% of all natural resources, blah blah. The fact is the Kyoto treaty placed unreasonable demands on America, and anyone can full well see that. There's no pointin arguing, because anyone can see that." The "stats" ain't some shaved shit from a sponsor! g Tis well known and accepted by US as well. Yes.. Kyoto did place "unreasonable demands" on the US.. and you can see why? There is obviously a "little" problem when 25% of the world's resources are consumed by one country with what is really a "small" population. I agree it is a problem... but someone (forget the "President" - he's well gone already,) has got to start addressing the problem else you'll end up grasping for air to the gas station for the next fill-up of the SUV! It is a slight problem!

10-07-2002, 08:32 PM	#154
Webby Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Far far away - as possible Posts: 14,956	"Notice its all the forgien Socialist Commies sayin this shit..." I am neither of the Communist or Socialist faith father!

10-07-2002, 08:39 PM	#158
Webby Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Far far away - as possible Posts: 14,956	"With this, I must agree. Taking Saddam out isn't necessarily a bad thing (it could even be a very good thing, if done right), however, the way the US are planning to do it will only bring more harm to the Iraqi population." Agree! Saddam is an asshole.. little doubt! There is also a frenzy of bullshit propaganda about him that has little truth, (espcially coming from Bush). He (Saddam) is a genicide dealer and for the interests of many, tis better he leave. However, sadly, I doubt that is the intention of the Bush Admin... they have more things at sake there than some nut, and the sole interest is in securing oil and a pipeline thru Iraq. The "bombing" techique of the US is kinda old hat these days... it don't take 50 billion and many innocent lives to achieve this.

10-07-2002, 08:40 PM	#159
Webby Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Far far away - as possible Posts: 14,956	Say no more Fletch!

10-07-2002, 08:44 PM	#163
Webby Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Far far away - as possible Posts: 14,956	Yea.. thought that was how the US justice system worked... Kinda backed up by Ashhahahahaha's activity in this "time of war" However.. some actually have a justice system and they don't seem to need a flamethrower with em :-)

10-07-2002, 08:51 PM	#168
Webby Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Far far away - as possible Posts: 14,956	"aaa...how bout liberal panty waste;)" I come to the conclusion there is this party called "Americanism"... and fuck me, that does not have a nice face or ring to it. Tis a combination of "self", "greed", "arrogance", a sense of being "invincible" and a few other "qualiities" thrown in... Got nothing to do with "peace", "sharing" or compassion for anyone on this planet..... sad!!! Liberal??? Na!!.. Call it more "common sense" than any political "leanings"....

10-07-2002, 08:52 PM	#169
insidethegame Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 117	Oh quite different,ones a VERY real threat to freedom...the other defends it.

10-07-2002, 08:54 PM	#172
Webby Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Far far away - as possible Posts: 14,956	I don't understand what you are trying to say, unless it's just "America Bad." Na.. America... hell.. lets get it into proportion.. tis the US we are talking of (there is more to America than the US!) ... The US ain't bad! There are some in power that are... just fucking evil... that's about it!

10-07-2002, 08:57 PM	#174
Webby Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Far far away - as possible Posts: 14,956	insidethegame: I don't "hate" the US one bit!! Shit .. that is the excuse ya all come out with!! As for common sense?... Reckon the majority on this planet have similar feelings about the US.. basically tis screwed! Has nothing to so with it's "citizens"... but a pile of total assholes they ya voted for!

10-07-2002, 09:00 PM	#178
Webby Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Far far away - as possible Posts: 14,956	Shit! It always amazes me that some US folks have this "attitiude" when they don't agree, that the "opponent" is some "America Hater"!. Hell.. I don't give a fuck... and I sure don't "hate" anyone on this planet... I ain't got the time!

10-07-2002, 09:02 PM	#181
Webby Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Far far away - as possible Posts: 14,956	Ahh the Ol' we love the american people but hate their government line Now that bit ya call call wot you like... I do sure as hell despise the government of the US... they are a fucking blotch on this planet...

10-07-2002, 09:04 PM	#184
Webby Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Far far away - as possible Posts: 14,956	This mean we gotta listen to the ranting idiot on TV now and cheer ourselves into some frenzy for someones blood?... Fuck!

10-07-2002, 09:06 PM	#186
Webby Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Far far away - as possible Posts: 14,956	insidethegame: Your "solution" is anger management???? Sheesh!! Nuff said!

10-07-2002, 09:07 PM	#188
PornoDoggy Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,053	Not at all ... I think a leftistl who believes that anyone to his/her right is a "capitalist facist warmongering exploiter of the masses" is every bit as moronic as someone who believes that those on the left aren't interested in freedom. A moron is a moron is a moron ....

10-07-2002, 09:10 PM	#191
Webby Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Far far away - as possible Posts: 14,956	punkworld: That summarised the lot well! There are more issues at stake all round than some focus on one guys war.

10-07-2002, 09:11 PM	#192
Webby Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Far far away - as possible Posts: 14,956	insidethegame: Grow up asshole

10-07-2002, 09:13 PM	#195
Webby Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Far far away - as possible Posts: 14,956	As you say Sir!

10-07-2002, 09:14 PM	#197
insidethegame Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 117	This capatalist asshole moron has to watch the rest of the ball game..I leave the floor to liberal commies and haters of all stripes;)

10-07-2002, 09:16 PM	#199
Webby Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Far far away - as possible Posts: 14,956	Sorry to see ya go my son!! Enjoy the game!!