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El Demonio · 10-05-2002, 09:20 PM

I have four visa cards, i'm cancelling them all first thing on monday.

Let's do this all, and let's see if they get the message.

Brown Bear · 10-05-2002, 09:21 PM

Are you retarded?

Brown Bear · 10-05-2002, 09:22 PM

FATPad · 10-05-2002, 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by El Demonio
I have four visa cards, i'm cancelling them all first thing on monday.

Let's do this all, and let's see if they get the message.

What message? That the online porn industry is relatively small in number and comprised of complete idiots?

El Demonio · 10-05-2002, 09:31 PM

What fucking assholes you are....

At least for me, i have no debt with the cards and I'M MAN ENOUGH to not keep feeding the assholes that are trying to screw me!

BE A MAN!!!

Fletch XXX · 10-05-2002, 09:32 PM

strategic snipers and about 20 men ready to do life for some target practice, long range of course.

Brown Bear · 10-05-2002, 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by El Demonio
What fucking assholes you are....

At least for me, i have no debt with the cards and I'M MAN ENOUGH to not keep feeding the assholes that are trying to screw me!

BE A MAN!!!

I might be an asshole, but you're a retard.

Brown Bear · 10-05-2002, 09:37 PM

Theo · 10-05-2002, 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FATPad

What message? That the online porn industry is relatively small in number and comprised of complete idiots?

hahahhahahhahaha

one of the funniest posts the last months

El Demonio · 10-05-2002, 09:38 PM

not a retard, but you are REAL PUSSY

He He, VISA fucks you ass and it pulls out for you to suck its fat prick full of your own shit.

And you suck it gladly and beg for more...

Coward!

Brown Bear · 10-05-2002, 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by El Demonio
not a retard, but you are REAL PUSSY

He He, VISA fucks you ass and it pulls out for you to suck its fat prick full of your own shit.

And you suck it gladly and beg for more...

Coward!

What you don't understand is that a few webmasters cutting up their Visa cards isn't going to make shit all of a difference.

But have fun you retard!

El Demonio · 10-05-2002, 09:49 PM

May be it is no diference for them, and maybe we are not so few, pussy.

Bu i also do it for my self.

A MAN PREFERS TO DIE ON HIS FEET THAT LIVE ON HIS KNEES

YOU PUSSY!!!!

Brown Bear · 10-05-2002, 09:52 PM

I have every reason to like Visa.

Over 60% of my money comes from Visa and will still continue to come from Visa. So why should I cut up my cards just because they made my business slightly more difficult.

You're seriously overeacting.

greentea · 10-05-2002, 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
strategic snipers and about 20 men ready to do life for some target practice, long range of course.

Fletch there out and about running all along I-95 on a shooting spree..

El Demonio · 10-05-2002, 10:02 PM

Man, you are very talented:

It needs talent to suck cock, take another in the ass and type at the same time, That is talent.....

You see, some countryman of yours said once: NO ONE WILL GET ON TOP OF YOU IF YOU DON'T BEND OVER.

This is bad, we have to stand up together, they do this because they think they can fuck us all in a dark corner, leave us with the pants down and a bleeding ass and we will not tell anyone.

I'm not used to live like that. may be you Americans have developed a taste for being controled, but not the rest of the world, period.

Brown Bear · 10-05-2002, 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by El Demonio
Man, you are very talented:

It needs talent to suck cock, take another in the ass and type at the same time, That is talent.....

You see, some countryman of yours said once: NO ONE WILL GET ON TOP OF YOU IF YOU DON'T BEND OVER.

This is bad, we have to stand up together, they do this because they think they can fuck us all in a dark corner, leave us with the pants down and a bleeding ass and we will not tell anyone.

I'm not used to live like that. may be you Americans have developed a taste for being controled, but not the rest of the world, period.

This isn't bad, this is business. But I wouldn't expect a retard to understand that.

You see this as a bad thing. I see opportunity.

DatsMyStapler · 10-05-2002, 10:12 PM

beware of anyone who takes advantage of and creates opportunities to recite (over and over again in gross detail) what he obviously considers to be, witty and profound homo-erotic analogies to add emphasis to his passionate beliefs.

El Demonio · 10-05-2002, 10:16 PM

So you find what i intend as insults, erotic? Geeeeezzz!

You must be gay.....

B40 · 10-05-2002, 10:54 PM

Rocky · 10-05-2002, 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by El Demonio

He He, VISA fucks you ass and it pulls out for you to suck its fat prick full of your own shit.

And you suck it gladly and beg for more...

am i the only one getting wood?!

either keep typing so i can rub one off or stop being a tease

TFCash · 10-06-2002, 01:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by El Demonio

This is bad, we have to stand up together, they do this because they think they can fuck us all in a dark corner, leave us with the pants down and a bleeding ass and we will not tell anyone.

See this is where your thought process strays. They are not doing it to make more money from us, do you really think that the $10 million (20,000 x $500) is going to make a dent in the billions that they make each year ?? They are tired of the crap that they have to put up with from the adult on-line community, we have done this to ourselves !!! Bait and switch tactics, relentless spamming, cheap trials with $40 rebills, the list goes on. It's a good thing that they didn't pull an American Express on us and drop adult all together.

I realize that this is going to hurt some, and put some adult webmasters out of the paysite business, but what doesn't kill you will make you stronger, and more profitable.

Some will say that it does nothing since they can just move the billing offshore, but the writing is on the walls my friends, Visa/MC does not want people in the marketplace billing without them knowing who, when and where. Today it's Visa USA, tomorrow its Visa international !!! You'd better make sure that you are ready for it to happen, no matter where you go!

I congratulate those that are keeping their heads about them, and looking for solutions. As for the rest of you that are running around crying that the sky is falling, and fuck Visa. I only have two words for you "Grow Up". This is a business and the sooner that you realize that, the sooner you will become successful.

Let the flaming begin

Tim

El Demonio · 10-06-2002, 01:25 AM

Sorry bastard, but i'm more successful than you are idiot.

You are the typical gringo asshole who doesn't care how you profit, while your profit, because bastards like you is that this kind of shit happens, yeah, let them do whatever unethical thing they want as long it doesn't concerns me....and fuck the rest, grow up, etc...

But, i will spare you this time, you see, it is not your fault, just mother nature wasn't that generous with you at the IQ assigning time.

GFED · 10-06-2002, 01:40 AM

First PayPal fucks me, and now VISA... I'm glad I never really pushed my site much after losing 50+ recurring members from PayPal...

Every penny counts... I'm cutting up all my VISA cards and switching to MC... although they're probably the same people... it might take away a few lapdances and hookers from their petticash account...

El Demonio · 10-06-2002, 01:43 AM

Way to go!

If they fuck us, we wont feed them anymore, again they will not even notice, but certainly my self esteem will do.

TFCash · 10-06-2002, 01:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by El Demonio
Sorry bastard, but i'm more successful than you are idiot.

You are the typical gringo asshole who doesn't care how you profit, while your profit, because bastards like you is that this kind of shit happens, yeah, let them do whatever unethical thing they want as long it doesn't concerns me....and fuck the rest, grow up, etc...

But, i will spare you this time, you see, it is not your fault, just mother nature wasn't that generous with you at the IQ assigning time.

I would bet that El Demonio doesn't have a pot to piss in, otherwise he would be cool headed about this like those of us that this is not even a blip on the radar screen

Yes I feel that the big 3 went about the announcement all wrong, but sitting here pissing and moaning about a simple $750 charge, and the corresponding $250/yr is the most childish act I've seen on this board in a long time. And yes international webmasters may have to invest another $1000 to have a presence here in the US, and I feel that that may not be the best solution for Visa to require that, but it is their ball field, and we do have to play by their rules. If we had not been such a pain in the ass for them, we wouldn't be in this posistion.

And if name calling make's you feel like a better webmaster than me, please do so.

Tim

El Demonio · 10-06-2002, 02:00 AM

Asshole i'm not complaining about the money, that's nothing for me.

I'm complaining about the CENSORSHIP they are going to impose here, didn't you read the emails well?, oh sorry, i forgot you barely read and write.

What happens if your VISA pimp daddy doesn't like your niche?, THEY WILL TERMINATE YOU bastard, and i really hope they will.

Is about that what i'm complaining.

And BTW: i have a mansion (a real mansion) and 3 Mercedes, the newest one is the SL 55 AMG with 496 hp, a car that you can only dream about.

It even comes with a gold pot where you can piss while driving....

I don't buy American cars because they are crap compared to a good European car.

Sorry that you have to comfort yourself your national products

El Demonio · 10-06-2002, 02:08 AM

THIS IS WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT MORONS:

"The new Visa rules in particular are directed against "aggregators" which specifically means companies such as ours in the third-party industry. The new rules are slated to come into effect very shortly within the US. These rules would make the third-party model prohibitively expensive for the industry. It would essentially be rendered impractical. Some billing companies such as Lancelot have decided to shut down rather than continue under the Visa/Mastercard regime.

However, not all regions of the world come under the new rules. The merchant banking industry is broken up into different regions such as North America, Europe, Asia etc. Each region can decide to opt in or opt out. While the US region has opted in, other regions have opted out. GloBill has decided to run its business with reputable banks in the opt-out regions. Not all billing companies have the capital, know how or foresight to set up merchant accounts with these particular banks and that is why I foresee some of these companies going under over the next few months.

With this move, GloBill feels it will emerge as one of the most stable companies in the industry.

Adrian Martin
Vice President
Glo-Bill.com "

And now looks like you gringos are deeply, truly, FUCKED!

andi_germany · 10-06-2002, 02:16 AM

Are you saying because you waste your money on 3 cars you are smart? I only have one and I think my pension plan I put together in the last 6 years in business is worth way more than a mansion and 3 cars you can't afford anylonger when a business like ours gets into trouble.

I blame VISA for one thing. They did nothing to prevent fraud. In the 80's were there was no internet trade they already had 200 Million Dollars fraudulent uses and they just wrote this off due to security would have been much more expensive. I beleive now with that much internet trade it gets a pain in the ass because every con now is using the net. What they need to push for is the electronic signiture so you can actually prove the charge but they take the easy way. By cutting off my credit cards I would just limit myself and not hurt VISA

El Demonio · 10-06-2002, 02:28 AM

Moron....

I have a fat account in SW...and i love cars, then what is money made for?

In fact haven't buy a Porshce because i don't like that VW look they still have.

Oh sorry i forgot that you buy all thru credit, sorry moron, i buy all in cash. i have no debts to worry about.

And having 2 AMEX golds and 2 MCs, i don't really need those visas, in fact i rarely use them at all, only use the cards when travel.

TFCash · 10-06-2002, 02:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by El Demonio
THIS IS WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT MORONS:

However, not all regions of the world come under the new rules. The merchant banking industry is broken up into different regions such as North America, Europe, Asia etc. Each region can decide to opt in or opt out. While the US region has opted in, other regions have opted out.

And now looks like you gringos are deeply, truly, FUCKED!

First I don't see how we are fucked ?? Just because Visa USA made the jump to adopt the new rules has no effect on me. Yes it will cost me a few more dollars, but I bet that if you come back here next year I will be richer due to the fact that this will help curb a lot of the crap that is going on out there.

I will go out on a branch here and state the obvious for those of you which are not quite up to speed here, within the next 12 months Visa Corp will put the pressure on all regions to comply thru the use of fines and fees for not adopting the new rules. And this is not a bad thing, it will stop the scammers and those sites which have the high CB that make it bad for all of us!

Stop fucking whining and get back to work

Tim

cat · 10-06-2002, 03:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by El Demonio
I have four visa cards, i'm cancelling them all first thing on monday.

Let's do this all, and let's see if they get the message.

very good idea!

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El Demonio Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Hell Posts: 237	not a retard, but you are REAL PUSSY He He, VISA fucks you ass and it pulls out for you to suck its fat prick full of your own shit. And you suck it gladly and beg for more... Coward! __________________ WE ARE ALL ONE CIRCLE, NO BEGINNING, NO END.

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El Demonio Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Hell Posts: 237	May be it is no diference for them, and maybe we are not so few, pussy. Bu i also do it for my self. A MAN PREFERS TO DIE ON HIS FEET THAT LIVE ON HIS KNEES YOU PUSSY!!!! __________________ WE ARE ALL ONE CIRCLE, NO BEGINNING, NO END.

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Brown Bear Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 4,982	I have every reason to like Visa. Over 60% of my money comes from Visa and will still continue to come from Visa. So why should I cut up my cards just because they made my business slightly more difficult. You're seriously overeacting. __________________ Surrender all your independent thinking and Click Here for re-programming.

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El Demonio Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Hell Posts: 237	Man, you are very talented: It needs talent to suck cock, take another in the ass and type at the same time, That is talent..... You see, some countryman of yours said once: NO ONE WILL GET ON TOP OF YOU IF YOU DON'T BEND OVER. This is bad, we have to stand up together, they do this because they think they can fuck us all in a dark corner, leave us with the pants down and a bleeding ass and we will not tell anyone. I'm not used to live like that. may be you Americans have developed a taste for being controled, but not the rest of the world, period. __________________ WE ARE ALL ONE CIRCLE, NO BEGINNING, NO END.

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El Demonio Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Hell Posts: 237	Sorry bastard, but i'm more successful than you are idiot. You are the typical gringo asshole who doesn't care how you profit, while your profit, because bastards like you is that this kind of shit happens, yeah, let them do whatever unethical thing they want as long it doesn't concerns me....and fuck the rest, grow up, etc... But, i will spare you this time, you see, it is not your fault, just mother nature wasn't that generous with you at the IQ assigning time. __________________ WE ARE ALL ONE CIRCLE, NO BEGINNING, NO END.

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GFED Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 8,121	First PayPal fucks me, and now VISA... I'm glad I never really pushed my site much after losing 50+ recurring members from PayPal... Every penny counts... I'm cutting up all my VISA cards and switching to MC... although they're probably the same people... it might take away a few lapdances and hookers from their petticash account... __________________ https://www.flow.page/savethechildren

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El Demonio Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Hell Posts: 237	Way to go! If they fuck us, we wont feed them anymore, again they will not even notice, but certainly my self esteem will do. __________________ WE ARE ALL ONE CIRCLE, NO BEGINNING, NO END.

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El Demonio Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Hell Posts: 237	Asshole i'm not complaining about the money, that's nothing for me. I'm complaining about the CENSORSHIP they are going to impose here, didn't you read the emails well?, oh sorry, i forgot you barely read and write. What happens if your VISA pimp daddy doesn't like your niche?, THEY WILL TERMINATE YOU bastard, and i really hope they will. Is about that what i'm complaining. And BTW: i have a mansion (a real mansion) and 3 Mercedes, the newest one is the SL 55 AMG with 496 hp, a car that you can only dream about. It even comes with a gold pot where you can piss while driving.... I don't buy American cars because they are crap compared to a good European car. Sorry that you have to comfort yourself your national products __________________ WE ARE ALL ONE CIRCLE, NO BEGINNING, NO END.

10-06-2002, 02:08 AM	#27
El Demonio Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Hell Posts: 237	THIS IS WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT MORONS: "The new Visa rules in particular are directed against "aggregators" which specifically means companies such as ours in the third-party industry. The new rules are slated to come into effect very shortly within the US. These rules would make the third-party model prohibitively expensive for the industry. It would essentially be rendered impractical. Some billing companies such as Lancelot have decided to shut down rather than continue under the Visa/Mastercard regime. However, not all regions of the world come under the new rules. The merchant banking industry is broken up into different regions such as North America, Europe, Asia etc. Each region can decide to opt in or opt out. While the US region has opted in, other regions have opted out. GloBill has decided to run its business with reputable banks in the opt-out regions. Not all billing companies have the capital, know how or foresight to set up merchant accounts with these particular banks and that is why I foresee some of these companies going under over the next few months. With this move, GloBill feels it will emerge as one of the most stable companies in the industry. Adrian Martin Vice President Glo-Bill.com " And now looks like you gringos are deeply, truly, FUCKED! __________________ WE ARE ALL ONE CIRCLE, NO BEGINNING, NO END.

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andi_germany Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Germany Posts: 768	Are you saying because you waste your money on 3 cars you are smart? I only have one and I think my pension plan I put together in the last 6 years in business is worth way more than a mansion and 3 cars you can't afford anylonger when a business like ours gets into trouble. I blame VISA for one thing. They did nothing to prevent fraud. In the 80's were there was no internet trade they already had 200 Million Dollars fraudulent uses and they just wrote this off due to security would have been much more expensive. I beleive now with that much internet trade it gets a pain in the ass because every con now is using the net. What they need to push for is the electronic signiture so you can actually prove the charge but they take the easy way. By cutting off my credit cards I would just limit myself and not hurt VISA

10-06-2002, 02:28 AM	#29
El Demonio Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Hell Posts: 237	Moron.... I have a fat account in SW...and i love cars, then what is money made for? In fact haven't buy a Porshce because i don't like that VW look they still have. Oh sorry i forgot that you buy all thru credit, sorry moron, i buy all in cash. i have no debts to worry about. And having 2 AMEX golds and 2 MCs, i don't really need those visas, in fact i rarely use them at all, only use the cards when travel. __________________ WE ARE ALL ONE CIRCLE, NO BEGINNING, NO END.