Over 60% of my money comes from Visa and will still continue to come from Visa. So why should I cut up my cards just because they made my business slightly more difficult.
You're seriously overeacting.
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It needs talent to suck cock, take another in the ass and type at the same time, That is talent.....
You see, some countryman of yours said once: NO ONE WILL GET ON TOP OF YOU IF YOU DON'T BEND OVER.
This is bad, we have to stand up together, they do this because they think they can fuck us all in a dark corner, leave us with the pants down and a bleeding ass and we will not tell anyone.
I'm not used to live like that. may be you Americans have developed a taste for being controled, but not the rest of the world, period.
Originally posted by El Demonio Man, you are very talented:
It needs talent to suck cock, take another in the ass and type at the same time, That is talent.....
You see, some countryman of yours said once: NO ONE WILL GET ON TOP OF YOU IF YOU DON'T BEND OVER.
This is bad, we have to stand up together, they do this because they think they can fuck us all in a dark corner, leave us with the pants down and a bleeding ass and we will not tell anyone.
I'm not used to live like that. may be you Americans have developed a taste for being controled, but not the rest of the world, period.
This isn't bad, this is business. But I wouldn't expect a retard to understand that.
You see this as a bad thing. I see opportunity.
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Originally posted by El Demonio
This is bad, we have to stand up together, they do this because they think they can fuck us all in a dark corner, leave us with the pants down and a bleeding ass and we will not tell anyone.
See this is where your thought process strays. They are not doing it to make more money from us, do you really think that the $10 million (20,000 x $500) is going to make a dent in the billions that they make each year ?? They are tired of the crap that they have to put up with from the adult on-line community, we have done this to ourselves !!! Bait and switch tactics, relentless spamming, cheap trials with $40 rebills, the list goes on. It's a good thing that they didn't pull an American Express on us and drop adult all together.
I realize that this is going to hurt some, and put some adult webmasters out of the paysite business, but what doesn't kill you will make you stronger, and more profitable.
Some will say that it does nothing since they can just move the billing offshore, but the writing is on the walls my friends, Visa/MC does not want people in the marketplace billing without them knowing who, when and where. Today it's Visa USA, tomorrow its Visa international !!! You'd better make sure that you are ready for it to happen, no matter where you go!
I congratulate those that are keeping their heads about them, and looking for solutions. As for the rest of you that are running around crying that the sky is falling, and fuck Visa. I only have two words for you "Grow Up". This is a business and the sooner that you realize that, the sooner you will become successful.
Sorry bastard, but i'm more successful than you are idiot.
You are the typical gringo asshole who doesn't care how you profit, while your profit, because bastards like you is that this kind of shit happens, yeah, let them do whatever unethical thing they want as long it doesn't concerns me....and fuck the rest, grow up, etc...
But, i will spare you this time, you see, it is not your fault, just mother nature wasn't that generous with you at the IQ assigning time.
First PayPal fucks me, and now VISA... I'm glad I never really pushed my site much after losing 50+ recurring members from PayPal...
Every penny counts... I'm cutting up all my VISA cards and switching to MC... although they're probably the same people... it might take away a few lapdances and hookers from their petticash account...
Originally posted by El Demonio Sorry bastard, but i'm more successful than you are idiot.
You are the typical gringo asshole who doesn't care how you profit, while your profit, because bastards like you is that this kind of shit happens, yeah, let them do whatever unethical thing they want as long it doesn't concerns me....and fuck the rest, grow up, etc...
But, i will spare you this time, you see, it is not your fault, just mother nature wasn't that generous with you at the IQ assigning time.
I would bet that El Demonio doesn't have a pot to piss in, otherwise he would be cool headed about this like those of us that this is not even a blip on the radar screen
Yes I feel that the big 3 went about the announcement all wrong, but sitting here pissing and moaning about a simple $750 charge, and the corresponding $250/yr is the most childish act I've seen on this board in a long time. And yes international webmasters may have to invest another $1000 to have a presence here in the US, and I feel that that may not be the best solution for Visa to require that, but it is their ball field, and we do have to play by their rules. If we had not been such a pain in the ass for them, we wouldn't be in this posistion.
And if name calling make's you feel like a better webmaster than me, please do so.
"The new Visa rules in particular are directed against "aggregators" which specifically means companies such as ours in the third-party industry. The new rules are slated to come into effect very shortly within the US. These rules would make the third-party model prohibitively expensive for the industry. It would essentially be rendered impractical. Some billing companies such as Lancelot have decided to shut down rather than continue under the Visa/Mastercard regime.
However, not all regions of the world come under the new rules. The merchant banking industry is broken up into different regions such as North America, Europe, Asia etc. Each region can decide to opt in or opt out. While the US region has opted in, other regions have opted out. GloBill has decided to run its business with reputable banks in the opt-out regions. Not all billing companies have the capital, know how or foresight to set up merchant accounts with these particular banks and that is why I foresee some of these companies going under over the next few months.
With this move, GloBill feels it will emerge as one of the most stable companies in the industry.
Adrian Martin
Vice President
Glo-Bill.com "
And now looks like you gringos are deeply, truly, FUCKED!
Are you saying because you waste your money on 3 cars you are smart? I only have one and I think my pension plan I put together in the last 6 years in business is worth way more than a mansion and 3 cars you can't afford anylonger when a business like ours gets into trouble.
I blame VISA for one thing. They did nothing to prevent fraud. In the 80's were there was no internet trade they already had 200 Million Dollars fraudulent uses and they just wrote this off due to security would have been much more expensive. I beleive now with that much internet trade it gets a pain in the ass because every con now is using the net. What they need to push for is the electronic signiture so you can actually prove the charge but they take the easy way. By cutting off my credit cards I would just limit myself and not hurt VISA
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Originally posted by El Demonio THIS IS WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT MORONS:
However, not all regions of the world come under the new rules. The merchant banking industry is broken up into different regions such as North America, Europe, Asia etc. Each region can decide to opt in or opt out. While the US region has opted in, other regions have opted out.
And now looks like you gringos are deeply, truly, FUCKED!
First I don't see how we are fucked ?? Just because Visa USA made the jump to adopt the new rules has no effect on me. Yes it will cost me a few more dollars, but I bet that if you come back here next year I will be richer due to the fact that this will help curb a lot of the crap that is going on out there.
I will go out on a branch here and state the obvious for those of you which are not quite up to speed here, within the next 12 months Visa Corp will put the pressure on all regions to comply thru the use of fines and fees for not adopting the new rules. And this is not a bad thing, it will stop the scammers and those sites which have the high CB that make it bad for all of us!
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