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Old 01-04-2008, 07:13 PM   #101
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you know, besides all that is being discussed here, the thing I hate in the US the most is the fact that you can sue everyone for basically everything, and you will probably win.
Some people makes this a lifestyle, we have a good example here on this board, I don't even need to mention his nickname.
When you're sit in a bus stop or watching football sunday and there's a spot talking about how a lawyer will help you, you can see how fucked up is your culture.
'Want to fight that ticket?' 'Remove someone from the jail?' give us a call, we will help you!
that's my rant.
That's what you get when you live in a society driven by greed and consumerism. everybody is out for a buck, from the top down to the bottom...
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Perhaps one major factor is religion. If you consider the amount of people who belong to religious groups and clan together as to enforce social policies and claim that both church and state are separate, but hide the fact that it's influence is just the same on the social system... such people are considered to be fanatical in nature; not to say that all religious types are extreme and dangerous.

The two biggest religions are: Christian & Islamic

Sometime I wounder if Christianity was created to stop the spread of the Islam as to create more peaceful social structures... and to balance out the early world as to get away from clan/religious warfare mindset.

So I think it is reasonable and plossible when it comes to US foreign policies to conclude that difference in religious values seem to drive semi-political/religous social agendas world wide and that is whats going on in the mid east and is just more noticeable...

So to answer your question why does everyone hate the US well perhaps its just that the tolerances are different.


Perhaps the US just has more cute girls?


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Old 01-04-2008, 07:17 PM   #103
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you know, besides all that is being discussed here, the thing I hate in the US the most is the fact that you can sue everyone for basically everything, and you will probably win.
Some people makes this a lifestyle, we have a good example here on this board, I don't even need to mention his nickname.
When you're sit in a bus stop or watching football sunday and there's a spot talking about how a lawyer will help you, you can see how fucked up is your culture.
'Want to fight that ticket?' 'Remove someone from the jail?' give us a call, we will help you!
that's my rant.
Well it's definitely another issue, the way anyone can parasit from the US law system is incredible, it's been said 3 - 5 pct. of the GDB of the US is spent on the public law issues, and about 50 pct. of the world's public law lawyers made their buck in US, but again you have to be a bit educated to know this..

But again - on the other hand, there is no other country where you can solve your claims / sues in such a fast fashion as in the US.

The continental system is maybe more sophisticated, not that relying on the feelings and showtime, but defininitely more rigid and some cases will inevitably take years to come to a conlusion...
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Well it's definitely another issue, the way anyone can parasit from the US law system is incredible, it's been said 3 - 5 pct. of the GDB of the US is spent on the public law issues, and about 50 pct. of the world's public law lawyers made their buck in US, but again you have to be a bit educated to know this..

But again - on the other hand, there is no other country where you can solve your claims / sues in such a fast fashion as in the US.

The continental system is maybe more sophisticated, not that relying on the feelings and showtime, but defininitely more rigid and some cases will inevitably take years to come to a conlusion...
yeah, as I stated, it's amazing that it will work in the end. most cases comes to a conclusion. The system is not the problem, but the way people uses it. The good part is that the law is for there for everyone, it's fun to see big name celebrities going to jail, this wouldn't happen anywhere in the world but in the USA.
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and God forbid anyone get started on Canadian media and their bias AND censorship and the "hidden agenda of conservative media owners"... because that doesn't happen there.... media bias, as explained here apparently just starts and ends with Bush and dumb Americans.
I'm sure with the great education system in the USA they would teach you to type in proper sentances?
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you guys are making it all too complicated...lol

they hate us because its currently trendy to do so...
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going "green"
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wearing bug eyed sun glasses because the celeb's do
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here is a simple question. why do most countries hate americans

is it jealousy ? No
is it their attitude ? Yes
is it their wealth ? No
is it that they stick up for some who can't stick up for them selfs such as the people in Serbia or Croatia when Europe did not want to do anything about it ? No
is it cause they tell some people the way it is ? Yes
is it bushism ? Yes

what do you think is the reason many countries hate Americans and have that hateful look when you go into their country with an American passport ? Foreign policy.
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they hate us because its currently trendy to do so...
NO...

It's "trendy" for americans to hate on america. The rest of the world has hated on america for ages, and it's not a fad that is going to pass anytime soon...
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What are you talking about Hotrocket & Uno ?

Perhaps you should turn on the learning Channel from time to time and find out how poor some of these people really are... no real health care structure besides UN aid in many locations... jealousy, wealth... hell yea... you bet they would be thinking such and having attitudes that will show such...

"Bushism" lol... come on people you can't blame just one man... he is representing the US interests not just his own... you people vote in someone to represent your interests and when things don't go your way you blame the president... grow up and take some responsibility for your nation.


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Perhaps you should turn on the learning Channel from time to time and find out how poor some of these people really are... no real health care structure besides UN aid in many locations... jealousy, wealth... hell yea... you bet they would be thinking such and having attitudes that will show such...
I don't get it, what "people" you meaning?
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What are you talking about Hotrocket & Uno ?

Perhaps you should turn on the learning Channel from time to time and find out how poor some of these people really are... no real health care structure besides UN aid in many locations... jealousy, wealth... hell yea... you bet they would be thinking such and having attitudes that will show such...

"Bushism" lol... come on people you can't blame just one man... he is representing the US interests not just his own... you people vote in someone to represent your interests and when things don't go your way you blame the president... grow up and take some responsibility for your nation.


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here is a simple question. why do most countries hate americans

is it jealousy ? No
Clarification: Other countries are not jealous of the US.
is it their attitude ? Yes
Clarification: Other countries hate the attitude of a lot of americans.
is it their wealth ? No
Clarification: Other countries do not hate us for having money.
is it that they stick up for some who can't stick up for them selfs such as the people in Serbia or Croatia when Europe did not want to do anything about it ? No
Clarification: It's not because we help other countries out. It's that we stick our nose where it doesn't belong.
is it cause they tell some people the way it is ? Yes
Clarification: It's because we tell people the way we think it should be.
is it bushism ? Yes
Clarification: Bush is hated by just about everyone I have met from and in the rest of the world. People hate his policies, they hate his style and they hate his arrogance. People who act in a similar manner aren't looked upon in positive light.

what do you think is the reason many countries hate Americans and have that hateful look when you go into their country with an American passport ? Foreign policy.
Clarification: Foreign policy(an extension of what the government does in our name).
Anything else?

I've been to around 25 countries and these are the things I've observed talking to everyone from the dirt poor regular people to diplomats and governmental people and family members to the ultra rich.
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After reading a few post, perhaps people in other countries just think those in the US are just stupid... Now I do not think this, but I can picture it!

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White trash is something that you'll find in every country of the world, unfortunately, some of the western white trash, especially from UK, lately regularly enjoys Prague...

You can hardly walk around the center over the weekends after midnight not to hear degenerated taunts and sounds of pissing and womiting on every other corner..

I was kind of amazed - last time I seen one English dude sticking a finger his throat and trying to puke on the others - frankly, I have never seen such an intense display of dementia and degeneration..

Im sorry to say but it is very true what you are saying about some ways of the English culture. They do it over here and think it is funny. Unfortunatly our laws over here have degenirated to nothing and I have never seen so much disrespect for other people property than what I see over here in the UK now. Our English culture and ways and especially with the younger generation have just gone to peices. Guns and knife attacks are out of control over here and the whole country has gone to shit.
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The third world maybe.
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Im sorry to say but it is very true what you are saying about some ways of the English culture. They do it over here and think it is funny. Unfortunatly our laws over here have degenirated to nothing and I have never seen so much disrespect for other people property than what I see over here in the UK now. Our English culture and ways and especially with the younger generation have just gone to peices. Guns and knife attacks are out of control over here and the whole country has gone to shit.
lol I wouldn't say it's gone to shit already but it sure is heading that way.
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The third world maybe.
It's probably better then Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan and one or two other countries.
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Probably because Americans are the wigger/boy-racer/ricer of the world:


Yo why you hatin on my Cavalier?

is it jealousy ?
is it my attitude ?
is it my wealth ?
is it that i'll race people that nobody else will race? like that soccer mom in her mini van at the red light with her two dogs in the back ?
is it cause i tell some people the way it is ? straight up yo ?

I just don't get it. Why yall be hatin on me?
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Two words, George Bush.
Well, having probably the least competent president in the history sure doesn't help too. There sure was enough interests to elect him though.

As I tried to explain, not that regular Joe's would know or care too much about politics, the ignorancy and idiocracy is on the rise globally BUT.

They SURE have one word in mind whenever George Bush Jr. appears - that beeing STUPID.

George is a very "simple" target and it's a shame for United States that their president is labeled all around the world as an ignorant and a "low IQ" person.

Having said that, this also inevitably lowers the profile of the average US
citizen, it's shame but it's true.

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i really cannot believe there hasn't been an assassination attempt on bush...
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you know, besides all that is being discussed here, the thing I hate in the US the most is the fact that you can sue everyone for basically everything, and you will probably win.
Some people makes this a lifestyle, we have a good example here on this board, I don't even need to mention his nickname.
When you're sit in a bus stop or watching football sunday and there's a spot talking about how a lawyer will help you, you can see how fucked up is your culture.
'Want to fight that ticket?' 'Remove someone from the jail?' give us a call, we will help you!
that's my rant.
The air of political correctness that has been developing over the last 20 years or more in the US hasn't helped matters in that regard either. People these days are more quick to become offended and defensive over mere jokes and perceived insults than ever before. They go from zero-to-lawsuit faster now than ever before in recorded history.
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i really cannot believe there hasn't been an assassination attempt on bush...
That is not something you want to be saying because if anything did happen you will have the FBI & CIA on your ass!

Not very smart.

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The air of political correctness that has been developing over the last 20 years or more in the US hasn't helped matters in that regard either. People these days are more quick to become offended and defensive over mere jokes and perceived insults than ever before. They go from zero-to-lawsuit faster now than ever before in recorded history.
although that point surely has some merit, i doubt thats true. the US has been one of the worlds most litigious nations on earth for the better part of a century. everyone here who is not a peasant or an ambulance chasing attorney understands the needs for Torte Reform. it has happened to a small extent but the problem always ends up being the same... everyone argues against making the guy who started the lawsuit liable for legal fees should he lose because of those rare circumstances where it all might be legit... and so on and so forth. its like arguing with environmentalists or PETA or something... since there is no perfect solution, we can't have any solution... and in the meantime, everyone suffers.. no matter how obvious it is that something needs to be done.

the legal system here is one of the biggest jokes of the free world. your rights are all perfectly protected until someone with more money than you decides to just use that system that protects rights and property to just bankrupt you because they have more money and can afford to.
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That is not something you want to be saying because if anything did happen you will have the FBI & CIA on your ass!

Not very smart.

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i'd put a bullet in his ass...

"hey.. remember that guy called "ismokeblunts" who dissapeared without a trace back in 2008"

"not really"

"he was really gangster"
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i'm building a bomb, i will be dropping on the whitehouse. also i will be raping hillary clinton's ass with no lube. in addition to this i put all my adult industry income towards funding training facilities for al qaeda operatives....

I PUT A JIHAD ON YOU AMERICA!!!!!!!!
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i'm building a bomb, i will be dropping on the whitehouse. also i will be raping hillary clinton's ass with no lube. in addition to this i put all my adult industry income towards funding training facilities for al qaeda operatives....

I PUT A JIHAD ON YOU AMERICA!!!!!!!!
oh cool. you just joined the long list of those who also failed to make assassination, rape, jihad and terrorism funny.
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oh cool. you just joined the long list of those who also failed to make assassination, rape, jihad and terrorism funny.
you can't beat the experts. i leave the real humor to real terrorists. fuck your yankee blue jeans...
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Its most def the gov and the foreign policies..mostly consists of buttin other countries business and bullyin' them around..
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although that point surely has some merit, i doubt thats true. the US has been one of the worlds most litigious nations on earth for the better part of a century. everyone here who is not a peasant or an ambulance chasing attorney understands the needs for Torte Reform. it has happened to a small extent but the problem always ends up being the same... everyone argues against making the guy who started the lawsuit liable for legal fees should he lose because of those rare circumstances where it all might be legit... and so on and so forth. its like arguing with environmentalists or PETA or something... since there is no perfect solution, we can't have any solution... and in the meantime, everyone suffers.. no matter how obvious it is that something needs to be done.

the legal system here is one of the biggest jokes of the free world. your rights are all perfectly protected until someone with more money than you decides to just use that system that protects rights and property to just bankrupt you because they have more money and can afford to.
All good points, pretty much spot-on..... but I still stand by my point that in the past 20 years or so the problem has worsened in part due to the air of political correctness going on, in the entire world for that matter but especially so in the US.

Why, Americans on this very board have as much as said so in several threads if memory serves.

I'm just saying, along with everything you're saying I strongly believe that people are more quick to jump to the lawsuit over even the least perceived slight now more than ever. Weren't native Americans up in arms a few years ago over the names of certain pro sports teams being "disrespectful" to them?... the Atlanta Braves comes to mind, the Washington Redskins, etc. I'm sure there was a flap about that, all to do with today's air of political correctness, and there are thousands of other examples of people or groups suing over what they see as descrimination.

The political correctness thing is way out of control these days.
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The political correctness thing is way out of control these days.
yeah, i can agree with that i guess.... forgot about all that crap like mascots.
There was another one recently where a school was being sued because the mascotts name "Porkchop" was offensive even though the school mascott was a hog. some hispanic group said it was offensive.

people here are fucking retards. "freedom" means that ultimately things will settle with the lowest common denominator. that has a lot to do with why the public school system is so fucked. everything gets dumbed down so the lowest common denominator can feel good about themselves. some schools stop keeping score with sports... god forbid someone "loses" and has to live with the stigma of losing a game or get a taste of what its like in real life in the real world.

i think a lot of this crap comes from what is sort of a muttled or totally absent cultural identity. people recite so many cliches about freedom, "the american dream" etc because otherwise, they have no clue who they are. i think you don't have this so much in other countries that are older and have a rich and unique cultural history and identity. so its easy for people to constantly push and redefine ideas according to their own whims... wheras, in Sweden or Russia or almost anywhere else for example, it wouldn't happen to a such an extreme degree.

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ATTITUDE - Yes. First off the fact we call ourselves "Americans" and by doing so indicate that all Americans are from the United States bothers the shit out of our neighbors to the north, south.
ERRRRRRRP. Wrong. The countries are Canada, United States of America, and Mexico. Nobody really cares.
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Alot of it is our government has gone overseas and fucked with other governments,made promises they didnt keep. The people get pissed.
I don't think you're very patriotic.
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I don't know but I grew up in Australia and we love Americans there. They are always welcome in my country, especially in the city where I was born...

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I do not hate americans, but the general attitude in US seems kinda fucked. I watched Fear factory last night for example... jesus christ... everybody was so dumb, and had just WAYYYYYYYYYY to much confidence...
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I do not hate americans, but the general attitude in US seems kinda fucked. I watched Fear factory last night for example... jesus christ... everybody was so dumb, and had just WAYYYYYYYYYY to much confidence...
Fear Factor or the band Fear Factory?
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It's "trendy" for americans to hate on america. The rest of the world has hated on america for ages, and it's not a fad that is going to pass anytime soon...
Not as bad as lately, when Clinton was President there was definately a different attitude not just to Americans, but to all things American.

Unfortunately the world see's Bush as your figurehead and he is seen as an incompetent buffoon.

Personally I like most Americans, perhaps a bit insular at times, but whenever I see or hear Bush I feel nauseous.
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i think a lot of this crap comes from what is sort of a muttled or totally absent cultural identity. people recite so many cliches about freedom, "the american dream" etc because otherwise, they have no clue who they are. i think you don't have this so much in other countries that are older and have a rich and unique cultural history and identity. so its easy for people to constantly push and redefine ideas according to their own whims... wheras, in Sweden or Russia or almost anywhere else for example, it wouldn't happen to a such an extreme degree.
Well States basically started from the scratch, it always was a mixture of all different nationalities whereas the stronger dogs fucked the most..

And lots of the history truly ain't nice, the imperial slaughtering of indians, the slavery and persecution till the early 60's, the gun culture, the mob.. that all is very exciting but definitely not something States would like to be reminded of - so they just went to the other extreme, those who they regarded as shit were overnight turned to those that CAN'T be touched.

Basically you have to create something people can stick to, as i realized - the whole history lessons how they are taught in the States are also very much patriotically biased.

Let's take as example the very much spread opinion that "it was US who won the world war II" for example - yes they did - but in Pacific only, slaughtering Japanese forces with the 1:22 ratio with their bombing apocalypse.

Measured from the mere armed viewpoint US invasion on Sicily was some of the worst displays of how to lead a war in similar environment, Kesselring was able to keep them the front in Italy till 45 only with what has left there. Remember Monte Casino?

The contribution to the invasion to Normandy proved to be also succesfull mainly due to the total exhaustion of fuel and goods on the German side. But the personalities such as George Patton are till today incredibly overestimated.

That is no disrespect to the soldiers that died in Europe beeing a part of the allied forces, but a historical fact that can be confirmed by any unbiased world war II historician. US had in fact way more an economical then physical impact on why the Allied forces won and earned also incredible revenue from the war, then they reinvested that back (thanks to that).

This actually reminds me how history was taught in the Eastern Block - Russia is the only country with comparable patriotism as US, Russians are those who won the world war II, and people are almost ready to kill you if you touch their "truth".
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