I found it very generous that he sent an annonymous check for $12,000 to one of his biggest haters who almost had to close his website down because his wife became ill and he could not afford to run the website any longer..

Just goes to show that even being hated by someone doesnt mean you have to be a complete asshole, he had the $$$ to pay for it, so he stepped up and sent the check to ensure that someone could keep up with their freedom of speech and also help their wife.. commendable in my book..

yeah too bad he is trying to look out for the welfare and well being of children and people in general in your country...must have really bothered you to see someone on the side of good

dont worry..maybe there will be a devastating plague or tornado that kills some people...then you will be happy

media, he may did it in order to include it in his movie (not that still wasn't a a good act since it helped someone's life). Hard to tell, but the fact remains this guy's wife needed $12k for a health issue she most like shouldnt have to pay at all and be provided for "free".

Lying?

your a fucking piece of shit. Yes, you.

I hope you find yourself without medical care or find yourself in debt up to your eyeballs because you cant afford your medical bills.

dont mind him, he's still reeling over fahrenheit.

I don't really understand where this is going.

Sure Michael Moore is fat, but what does that matter? He makes some decent films that ask important questions. Would it make you happier if he looked like Brad Pitt or someone like that?

Charlton Heston is a nut... I didn't think he was that out of line.

So, you guys want the government to handle health care? Do you really think that the same government you complain about is going to do a better job?

It matters because a guy that can't manage his own fucking torso shouldn't be telling anyone how to run anything. :tongue:

Wow, might be time to settle down. I've never heard someone get so worked up over someone elses opinion about a contraversial person. I don't agree with most everthing he says and there are ways to fix things without going into the extremes he might suggest, but he has a right to say what he wants. Personally, I hope he gets hit by a bus and dies...but that's just me.

baddog is the last person that needs to be calling someone a pig. He is a talentless, hairy, old piece of shit, that doesn't offer anything to society, other then his ability to make uneducated, and pointless comments on this here adult message board.

Yea, and I also have a right to say what i want to, and I took the liberty to do so.

Thats just retarded.

Another piece of bullshit propaganda, and anyone who's ever taken Poli Sci 101 knows it, but oh wait, Republicans are anti-education, anti-college, anti 'elites' because by gawd who needs some pointy headed smartass perfessor telling them whut's whut.

Govt. does a better job running huge organizations, they do it more efficiently and cheaper than private enterprise in just about EVERY case. You can find anecdotal evidence to the contrary, as you can in every situation, but that's a FACT.

yea. I do.

Our current healthcare system isn't exactly privatized. Insurance companies rely heavily on government laws and regulations that allow them to exploit customers. From not allowing Americans to purchase overseas, having them dictate medical treatment, and allowing them huge tax breaks makes them less a story of capitalistic success and more about sucking the dicks of the right Senators to make their business easy.

On top of that, everyone who buys health insurance or pays their own medical bills is paying for socialized medicine. A true private healthcare system can turn away people, can deny healthcare. Our current system doesn't allow that, and the people who do pay their bills are the ones who pay for the poor. It's why Aspirin is $20, why a simple MRI is hundreds, and why just staying in a bed in a hospital for a night is over $10,000.

So we need to stop saying that our system is privatized. It's still socialized medicine with flaws. The difference is whether we pay for the poor in our taxes or through our health insurance. So I'm not saying that the government should run everything, but I'm saying that our current healthcare system is far from a private system that utilizes capitalism.

They do a pretty decent job with education, mail, our parks, libraries, and many other socialized issues.

And your assumption that private companies do everything better is wrong. It's a talking point of private companies that can only stay in business by sucking government dick and getting fat contracts.

Yea! And he's fat too.

All motives aside.. he still did something that was very generous.. on moorewatch.com they detail alot about hidden agenda of the check etc. but still when it gets down to it I think it was a cool thing to do regardless.. and the guy has thanked moore alot for it.. even though he still does not like his business relations, he thinks that moore as a person did a nice thing..

award of the most stupid post of this thread ... and let me tell you that competition was fierce :2 cents:

The flip side to this is that maybe he is too busy working to workout. Did it ever occur to you that it could be genetic? That is just a retarded thing to say and I would bet that you don't even buy into it.

Everybody calls him a liar but nobody can point out exactly what he is lying about. Just keep calling him fat or shut up.

While in principle I agree with what you are saying, look at what Margret Thatcher did in the UK during here rein. I guess they didn't discuss that in PolSci 101 there. It all comes down to how it is all set up, either system could work as well or better than the other.

Yeah, I don't really but I still think it was amusing. Sorry if I upset anyone that is also lacking in torso management skills. :)

Wow are you 7 years old?

you are retarded

pocketkangaroo, a simple MRI is hundreds? I wish :) It's thousands. One sec I'll go find my bill...
First of all just to get to the emergency room and have a doctor check me out was $1514.
MRI scan was $2836.

And thats just face, neck and chest.. and I need another one of those damn things for another procedure.. blah

I was just on moorewatch.com. That site is as shitty as they come. All they do is bash the shit out of Michael Moore even though they can neither write, nor think for themselves. One gold mine of a post that I found was one arguing that Michael Moore is the only single individual to profit from the war. They claim that all others that have profited have been business. Well hello, that's the fucking problem asshole. I guess they are happy to see Haliburton and Lockheed make billions (of your tax dollars I might add) from sending the young and poor to die for reasons they won't live long enough to understand. So fucking what if he made some money, does it look like he gives a flying fuck. These are the type of people who would steal from their own mom if they could only figure out how to pull it off (sadly they can't because they are dumb as door knobs).

I think I am going to shed a tear on July 4th for all the intelligent people in the US who have to sit idly by while the rich and utterly retarded run the country into the ground because they can't even understand that they are quickly turning the place into a banana republic slowly slipping more and more into debt while China quietly accepts their position at the top of the pedestal as the new World Super Power. Actually, on second thought I will probably laugh instead because that is what everyone down there is going to be doing while lighting fireworks and having a grand old time...no cares in the world because today equals tomorrow (that's what dad told me anyways) progress is progress there is no turning back now.

Name one gun shoot incident that would have happened if the current laws were fully enforced.

trace the gun path from manufacture thru distributor to the final sale and you will find at least one violation of law that would have broken the chain IN EVERY SINGLE CASE.

The problem is police don't have the resourse to enforce the laws that are CURRENTLY ON THE BOOKS. Add a new law and you simple add more buracracy to the system, which will have no added effect because the policy don have the resources to enforce the laws that are CURRENTLY ON THE BOOKS.

You are fat and sensitive.

150 fat boys

So the answer to this problem is to remove the rights of the individual? Not everyone who owns guns commit crimes, so why do they have to suffer because some guy robs a liquer store? Educating people is by far a better solution and one that could happen if the laws were written to support it. Instead all out restrictions and bans on guns, or whatever, why not require people to learn about what they are doing. It would work better than just saying "no" and putting them in jail.

Wow, what a thread!!!

I think that when Bush let the assault weapons ban lapse, it was purely political. Just like the gay marriage amendment attempt. Just like all abortion discussions in politics, and flag burning, and on and on. All buzzwords for politics/elections.

In other words, if my neighbor wants to own an AK-47, MAKE him break a law to get it. Just like if a 10 year old wants a case of beer. Hey it happens, but why make it any easier?

Excellent post.

is that honestly supposed to be an insult? :1orglaugh you've probably never even met any of the people you are talking to and you want to start insulting people based on how much you think they may weigh. Next maybe you will start calling me too young to understand "how the world works". or maybe you will just dismiss me as a bleeding heart liberal or a tree hugger or whatever uneducated and unoriginal insults you have in your three card deck. If you want to make someone laugh or insult them then think of something funny or insulting to say and say it...no point in being half assed or holding back.

Wow these threads about Bush and shit go on forever...

I think you hit on some good points. I think what we have is a partially failing capitalistic system and a partially socialized system. The people in the capitalistic system are those with private polices, employer provided policies and those without insurance. They people in the socialized system are those on Medicare/Medicaid and/or some other federal or state government provided insurance. The problem for those of us stuck in the private system is that our private system has become a monopolistic system where all of the key players are involved in a silent conspiracy to extract maximum profit from those of us suck in that system. In other words it simply isn’t a functioning free market anymore.

No, I'm having a laugh at those too sensitive to recognize or take a joke.

Theres just so much material! :1orglaugh

Whats wrong with owning an AK-47? I have one, does that make me a bad person? Shooting a gun is fun. It's a proven fact that if it rhymes, its legit. Seriously though, guns aren't the problem, it's the people that end up getting them. No matter how many gun laws get created, the wrong people are still going to get them, so why take them out of law abiding citizens hands?