Lars, you have reached the point where you actually make me physically ill. Your level of arrogance is overwhelming. The good news is the books usually balance and that arrogant ones usually end up eating it in the end. Karma is a bitch, and she is packing one hell of a package for you one of these days.

I have nothing more to add. Good luck with buying off the adult industry.

yes good idea, just shut down all TGP's, brilliant.
because they give access to stolen CP

yes good idea, just shut down all TGP's, brilliant.
because they give access to stolen CP?

lars, your arrogance makes me physcially ill. You have to be one of the most arrogant people I have ever met in my life (and I have met some great ones).

karma is a bitch - and she certainly will have a nice gift for you one day.

I have nothing more to add. Good luck in buying off the rest of the adult industry.

http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=...highlight=icra

here is a thread from me in 2003 supporting labeling but I know I just created thsi because I wann look good, man the haters are in full force all 4 of them. Ruining a good thread for a good cause.

Im a hater because you financially help people that give my sweat and blood away for free? Please explain that to me Lars.

again, but since you Lars and the staff seems to be dickheads.................
this is not about hate but about facts, I know facts are annoying but facts are facts.
period.

Beacuse I actually do care about people and dont want to fuck anyone over, tehre are a lot of people i really care about on GFY people I havce done great buisness with for over 10+ years. I am sorry that you dont know me and can only draw conclusions based on what you see and read on GFY. I am not near the monster and the scapegoat you would paint of me :)

Thanks I am sorry you feel that way Karma already gave me mine and so I am all payed up.

I met you once you were a nice guy, I dont draw conclusions from gfy. I draw them when a loyal fan tell us our shit is on a BT and on either side of it are your ads. Thats what gives me my problem, im not rich like you so it really hurts when your sweat and blood is given away.

I understand where youa re coming from i just dont see it the same way that you do.

i am not shouting down to anyone alex. i am telling you to step up and dontate or start your own thread. it seems like you can only get attention when you are talking about AFF. no issue has been ignored. stay current.

where is the donation? $100 alex. can you do that?

Well crap. I was going to make a donation for you to match, but they only accept Paypal. That seems kind of dangerous, but no matter. Why don't they have an epass link?

So it's all about the children? That's why you went through the trouble of making multiple press releases. I have no problem with companies using a donation for positive publicity, but lets not act like this is all about the kids.

Figured out how to by-pass Paypal.

You have sent a secure payment of $100.00 USD to ASACP. This payment will appear on your card statement as "PAYPAL *ASACP INC". You will receive an email receipt for this shortly.

Here are my two cents. I think it's good anytime someone donates to a cause such as this. Cleaning up this sick act is first and foremost and anyone who can help should be commended for it.

However, I do think some people are bringing up good points. I'm not sure if this is the right thread for it, but there are some questions that should be asked. While it is ridiculous to think that AFF supports CP, their ads do appear on the same page as CP files. Those affiliates have been brought to the attention of AFF, and their ads have remained. I don't think there are a lot of affiliates who would allow their ads to be placed next to CP (perhaps I'm wrong though). But that is beside the point. AFF has a right to choose their affiliates and a right to make money how they seem fit. If there is a legal question, their lawyers would handle it. It honestly doesn't affect anyone here.

The question is whether it hurts the integrity of the ASACP in the future. ASACP has been a faithful and credible supporter of legitimate porn in the US. They have spoken out against obscenity witch hunts and other issues that hurt us. They are a huge asset in our corner. But what if a savvy anti-porn person with influence finds the link between ASACP - AFF - Sites that promote CP. It could hurt their integrity, cause, and voice. Like I said, I could give a shit where AFF advertises, but I hope this doesn't bite ASACP in the ass.

That is why we are addressing this issue,we dont want to be advertised near any search results of that nature and any affilaite we find with direct content on their sites we ban immediately ASACP can attest to this as we have canceled affilaites and turned over many people to the authorities over the years.

bad dog steps up with $100

who is next?

Of course it is also for our image I wont deny that :)

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Your sexy when ya laugh wanna donate some bucks for a good cause ??

I don't post on here much, but I felt compelled to post in this thread because I am tired of some of this bullshit. Let me start out by saying that I am not defending Lars of AFF, but this has got to be one of the most pathetic threads I have seen on GFY in a long time.

All of you whiners who are complaining about stolen content, and ads on torrent sites that are showing CP are just a bunch of pathetic pussies. You stupid dickheads have totally missed the point of this thread, and have tried to twist it around into another one of your own personal bashing grounds. Instead, you should be rallying around an organization like ASACP that is trying to save your pathetic asses from being taken over, highly regulated and squashed by our corrupt US Government. I guess it's easier to whine about poor old me, than to think about the industry, as a whole, that pays your bills and puts food on your table.

I personally don't know if what you are saying about Lars and AFF is true or not, or if they are to blame...only they know for sure. I have seen the things you constantly whine about, along with the Affiliate ID's included in the links.

Have you ever stopped to think that maybe the affiliates are sponsoring those ads...and not AFF? Probably not, because you are too busy spending your whole day on this board crying in your cornflakes.

If you REALLY want to do something productive (instead of using GFY as your daily bashing ground), then why don't you assholes ban together and start doing something to stop the source of all of this bullshit...the torrent sites themselves.

I come to this board to gain information, and have some fun occassionaly, not to see every 3rd thread be about who you think is ripping you off now. Get a fucking life losers!

Like I said...this is about ASACP, RTA, protecting minors from accessing adult sites, and eliminating CP. Not to mention keeping the Bushites off our asses because they have a hard-on for the Adult Industry.

I'm a small affiliate who earns a halfway decent living off of a bunch of different affiliate programs...and I owe this industry a lot over the last 5 years. I hope to see my meager fortunes continue to grow over the next 5 years.

So...even though it's not much, I will donate $25 to the cause for the reasons I stated above.

Maybe more of you will do the same...since it's your livelihood at stake.

P.S. - Lars...maybe you could turn off the skim button for a while so I could make a little bit more from your program. Just kidding...but seriously, a conversion ration of 1:1500 on your program sucks. A little help maybe?

ASACP is a Great cause sure, But I have to say sorry Lars but anything to do with AFF I have boycotted, As have many others, You used to be a man that I respected and thought you were a good bloke, but the way you rub shit in our faces and hurt our industry those thoughts have changed :(

:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

"You've sent a secure payment of $500.00 USD to ASACP through PayPal. You'll receive an email receipt shortly."

You = has no clue

So far

Oystein
Bad DOG
WetNLive

have donated lets get rocking for a good cause people !!!

The brand new Top Choice Cash affiliate program would like to step up to the plate with an ASACP Crusader level sponsership at $1200.

We fully support ASACP and their fight for child protection, and would like to volunteer our support in any way, shape, or form we are capable of starting with our donation.

The Top Choice Film and Video Production staff applauds Lars and AFF on setting this up for the great people at ASACP, and we would like to encourage everyone to show your support as well...

AAKK .. Munki i said you had a budget of $1.20 ..not $1200.00 ... what the heck .. ???
In all seriousness this is actually something we are very serious about and yes we are totally down with this sponsorship .. everyone should get in at some level ..any level .. this is the kind of thing that is going to create support and acceptance to our industry .. a tax deductible donation that will not only end up in the long run creating more work and more revenue for all of us .....sounds like one hell of a great idea to me .. whats the hold up .. jump in !!!

Incorrect. Sorry, you fail. You are the pathetic pussy that entirely missed the point.

Where do you think the money for the AFF donation and sponsorship of ASACP comes from? In part, it comes from supporting the very sites that help to make CP and other illegal material available. The twisting comes from Lars and his company not being able to come forward and say "We will fight against the torrent sites that promote CP, we know we were wrong, we will change our ways, and we will also fiancially support ASACP"... instead, he gives us all the middle finger (see his thread over the weekend about a new thing that is going to piss people off that was a pre-cursor to this deal). He will continue to profit from the sites that distributre the CP, the illegal material and the content stolen from other sites, and he will give a very small part of that money to ASACP, which is somehow suppose to make it all okay.

If you can't see just how fucking twisted that is, you truly have your head up your ass and deserve to not only give money to the cause, but to have your content ripped off and spread around for free as well, to the profit of AFF.

In a vacuum with no other outside influences, AFF's move is great, and I commend them for it. But in light of their inability to walk away from almost every bad way of making money, I have to say that I hope the ASACP tells them to take their money back, because at the end of the day, they aren't helping to get rid of CP in the least.

Pretentious asshole. The only thing you will ever care about is money. Stop expecting people to kiss you on the ass for supporting ASACP.

Stuart D?

How's it smell?


What I mean is how does Lars' ass smell? You seem to be up his ass for most of this thread. Does Lars wipe his ass with your tongue when he's out of toilet paper?

Can I have an answer, "BRO"? :1orglaugh

hmmm, I kind of thought this thread was what he was talking about that was going to piss people off.

Guess he was right.

Too bad IMHO...

He's doing a great thing here...

:2 cents:

No, I didn't miss the point.

Why don't YOU name one thing that YOU have done to get rid of CP in the last 30 days. Can you name just one...other than being a disruptive influence 100 times a day on this forum?

Yeah...like I'm gonna take any stock in what a guy named TampaToker has to say.

Just go smoke another fattie.

Trying to repair his broken image which he destroyed by robbing webmasters then rubbing it in everyones face... with a PR stunt which shamefully exploits CP as a cause... when his company is one of the bigger supporters of it, is a good thing?

Maybe Hitler should have donated a few dollars to the local Jewish temples as he rolled through Poland? What a *great thing* that would have been.

:disgust

in almost ever case, where ever adult content is being stolen and traded or there are torrent sites with links to download CP.. there is an AFF ad right there, front and center. They know this. They have always known this and they defend it.

thats hardly a "great thing"

So you think that my telling people to hate him but not asacp is considered ass kissing?

I can see why you get banned so often. You're friggin retarded.

For those that are saying that AFF's contributions to ASACP smear it, or that you won't support ASACP because of AFF, etc, etc, is sadly, and quite pathetically ridiculous.

AFF doesn't get a get-out-of-drama card for its actions with ASACP. AFF does get kudos for supporting ASACP much like the many fine sponsors who have joined over the many years.

For those that think they are doing this just to get some good vibes, can't you see the irony that this has all caused more (negative) drama?

For those that think that AFF is sponsoring CP, please take your proof and file a complaint here at FTC website as well as your local FBI field office.

after that, please icq or email me (brandon @at@ fightthepatent.com ) with torrent sites and the keywords/pages to put in that pull up AFF ads. I will do my own forensic review.


Fight the guilty until proven innocent!

Yeah I knew exactly who the 5 or so main haters would be and knew exactly how they would react, its almost comical.

So far today

I have been compared to a murderer a rapist and hitler, wow you guys are real gems you are.

said Legendary Yoda

:winkwink:


Fight the comical interlude!

I report sites I find on search engines to them to have them look into them - it's nice to say "let's get CP" but it is very important to remove it from regular porn searches.

I have submitted numerous CP or potential CP sites to asacp over the years. There are any number of old timers that will let you know that my stand is clear and my actions have been concrete.

Most important, this isn't about ME. It is about AFF. Even if I did absolutely nothing to combat CP, I would have also done nothing to help promote it - and that puts me ahead of them as far as I am concerned.


Fightthispatent: There are any number of threads already on the subject of where the AFF ads can be found with CP and material pirated from other sites. Nobody from AFF has even attempted to deny it, nor have they stepped up to take action. They could do way more to cut down on CP by stopping the flow of money to torrent sites and being a little more selective in who they let into their programs, than giving 10k to ASACP. Spending that 10k to get programmers to ban all URLs with the word "torrent", "hack" and "pirate" from their program would likely be more productive.

Like I said, taken in a vacuum, I comment AFF for stepping up with ASACP, but the balance, if the intent is to help cut down on the availability and distribution of CP, they could have done many better things (but that would have cost them bottom line money).

did you also know that exactly almost no one would get behind you and your shameless, transparent attempt at using abused children to repair your image, while avoiding every single issue that brought you here to begin with?

if you cared about the industry, webmasters or CP, you would announce right now that you are taking a firm stand against torrent sites, forums that trade stolen content, warez sites and spyware.

all you care about right now, is being seen to pretend to care... by getting behind an issue that you felt would be a safe one for you.

so you donate 10K to ASACP today... care to tell us how much AFF revenue came from sites today that make links to CP available for download? $5,000.00? $10,000.00? $50,000.00?

your going to need more than that :upsidedow


just kidding, couldn't resist

So, it is your opinion that GFY is the place to report this stuff?

dude, c'mon

asacp has refused sponsors in the past

its interesting that they will take them now, especially in the mist of all the AFF/ CP/Torrent drama going on right now

lars has quite the way of pissing gasoline on a fire

Only in the adult industry can a company spend millions on a site that promotes child porn and then make a donation to a site that tries to prevent child porn.


So lets see, AFF spends millions(s) on pirate bay in advertising a year and they spend a couple thousand on ASACP and people are suppose to pat them on their back. Thats like taking a huge shit on someone then whipping a little offer their face and expecting " kudos ! kudos! you are doing a great thing!"

You fund a site that not only steals from everyone here but they also support CP. How can you send them millions and help them promote CP and then say you are doing something good by making donation on ASACP. The best "donation" you could do would be to stop supporting shit sites like pirate bay.

I love the comparisons to google and yahoo. Good old Lars always trying to compare shaddy shit to google and yahoo, just like you did with zango ( zango the same as google adwords) lol.


Nice spin to it, you get to donate .00001% what you make from a site that promote CP and then you try to play the " well where is your donation, step up or shut up" 4th grade tactics. When I start advertsing like you do on sites that push cp and steal from others (Content and traffic) I will step up even more then you, how's that ?

I'd like to say any donation made to help someone is always a good thing. Although given the current situation motives will be called into question.

Since Lars is finally speaking up and answering questions in this thread i'd like to say a few things as well.

Lars let's put all the bullshit aside, let's not talk about google, and yahoo and what's being done there, let's not talk about TGP's or regular forms of traffic, but let's do talk about what most people's main issue it torrent sites.

It's obvious you are going to take traffic from anywhere and there is not much we can do about that, we've established this months ago. People are going to hate, bitch, cause drama, and etc.

You said you are working with certain people to eliminate certain search terms that carry your ads.

We all know, and no one here including yourself can disagree that if we go to piratebay, or torrentspy, or many other torrent sites out there we will see AFF and at times Cams.com ads. This is a fact.

If we go to these sites and put into the search bar Chi** Porn, Lolita, 15 year old Sex, etc it will bring up many results and on every one of those pages are AFF links.

I understand you're going to accept torrent traffic if we like it or not.

But, if you support fighting CP, and support ASACP, and really do want to do the right thing wouldn't the proper decision to be to stop accepting their traffic and have them notify you when they have fixed the search feature to exclude any words that relate to CP, Underage and etc and to contact you when they have and you will start accepting their ads again?

I think this would be the proper thing to do instead of waiting for them to fix it and having the ads there.