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tony286 06-11-2007 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by StuartD (Post 12581661)
Perhaps but will you have all of them shut down if AFF sends them all money?

Tell you what, just hate Lars, hate all of AFF all you want for what ever you want.

But it's pretty juvenile to hate the ASACP because you just suddenly found out that AFF is willing to up their donations to them.

They're still doing what they've always done, they're still a good cause. They're still great people.

You know what? This is pointless. Hate whom ever you guys want. You are obviously blinded by rage that you refuse to do anything but hate. So more power to you. There's no reasoning with someone who has anger management issues.

Who said I hate ASACP please dont put words in my mouth. I dont hate Lars or AFF either they have an ethics problem that hurts my pocket so I will expose it every chance I get.

TurboAngel 06-11-2007 09:59 AM

51??????
I was slow.
:)

tony286 06-11-2007 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StuartD (Post 12581671)
Do you even read what you write?
Accusations you make should be very carefully worded and backed up. Not just said out of hatred without any forethought.

You really dont have a clue dont you ,why dont you do some research on your own.

Brujah 06-11-2007 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StuartD (Post 12581661)
Tell you what, just hate Lars, hate all of AFF all you want for what ever you want.

I don't know about tony404, and the others but I don't hate Lars and I don't hate AFF. I think people who won't bother to post in this thread, will still wonder a bit at the choices they have been making and their willingness to continue to do business with sites like Pirate Bay. They won't hate AFF or Lars, and won't feel that way about ASACP either. They just won't choose to participate in an AFF sponsored thread and it's their prerogative. They can still support and sponsor ASACP without needing to play this game.

StuartD 06-11-2007 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 12581684)
You really dont have a clue dont you ,why dont you do some research on your own.

And do you? He is accusing ASACP of sponsoring that content.
Had he of worded it differently, perhaps it would make more sense as to what he is trying to say. But he didn't.

You do the same thing quite often.

tony286 06-11-2007 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StuartD (Post 12581700)
And do you? He is accusing ASACP of sponsoring that content.
Had he of worded it differently, perhaps it would make more sense as to what he is trying to say. But he didn't.

You do the same thing quite often.

Your not making sense.No he isnt read his post again out loud slowly.

g$$$ 06-11-2007 10:21 AM

http://www.asacp.org/page.php?content=sponsors

Excellent!!! :thumbsup

Brujah 06-11-2007 10:22 AM

Anyway Stuart, I didn't mean to take the thread off into a tangent. I just got caught up in the discussion. I'd be glad to continue it on ICQ. My intention wasn't to ruin a thread. I think the discussion itself is an important one and should continue in another thread perhaps.

Sean 06-11-2007 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 12581230)
Lars, your company has a long history of refering problem situations to the laywers who look and basically appear to say "if nobody has been charged, it must be legal, so we are okay with it".

At this point, I will be writing a sharply worded letter to the ASACP and their other sponsors suggesting that they should look closely at AFF and it's business choices before accepting any money from them.

just make sure to put a good sized check in the envelope along with the letter

OY 06-11-2007 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by LegendaryLars (Post 12581535)
Wohoooooo thanks Oystein you and your company Kick serious ass !!!!!

Our pleasure Lars, and thank you for the props - we think so too :winkwink:

Now I hope to see other companies step up to the plate as well so that we can deplete your $10,000 match fund raiser :thumbsup:thumbsup

TO OUR COMPETITOR(s) - COME ON IN AND MATCH OUR DONATION!!! :thumbsup

Joan 06-11-2007 10:34 AM

ASACP wants to thank AFF and all of its sponsors and members for their support. It is only through this support that ASACP has been able to maintain and upgrade its CP Reporting Hotline. In addition, their support has permitted ASACP to implement the RTA ? Restricted to Adults website label and also allows ASACP to provide RTA (<meta name="RATING" content="RTA-5042-1996-1400-1577-RTA">) to the industry at no charge.

I want to thank AFF and Lars for offering to raise additional awareness and funds to support ASACP?s efforts.

If people have other questions about ASACP that do not relate to this purpose of this thread, please email me at [email protected].

Peaches 06-11-2007 10:34 AM

Lars: I found the cure to cancer and will be giving it away free!

tony404: I don't care, I see AFF ads on nekkid pics of my wife.

StuartD 06-11-2007 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 12581796)
Anyway Stuart, I didn't mean to take the thread off into a tangent. I just got caught up in the discussion. I'd be glad to continue it on ICQ. My intention wasn't to ruin a thread. I think the discussion itself is an important one and should continue in another thread perhaps.

:thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup

Xenophage 06-11-2007 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joan (Post 12581890)
ASACP wants to thank AFF and all of its sponsors and members for their support. It is only through this support that ASACP has been able to maintain and upgrade its CP Reporting Hotline. In addition, their support has permitted ASACP to implement the RTA ? Restricted to Adults website label and also allows ASACP to provide RTA (<meta name="RATING" content="RTA-5042-1996-1400-1577-RTA">) to the industry at no charge.

I want to thank AFF and Lars for offering to raise additional awareness and funds to support ASACP?s efforts.

If people have other questions about ASACP that do not relate to this purpose of this thread, please email me at [email protected].

Thanks Joan keep up the good work !!!

Deej 06-11-2007 10:43 AM

Awesome Lars!!

I see a light beaming through. Fuck the hate Lars, this is a good cause. YOure a jewel even if "they're" in denial!

will you match my lunch money?

Damian_Maxcash 06-11-2007 10:59 AM

Good one Lars - a considered and responsible step.

Perhaps some of the haters in this and the other threads could learn something.

When you discover there is a problem don't just come on here and randomly insult people - think of a solution and deal with it in a way that is best for everyone.

Xenophage 06-11-2007 11:12 AM

Thanks lets get some more Donations in here !
So far Stepping up to the plate !!

Oystein $500 MPA Mansion Productions

baddog 06-11-2007 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rumbo (Post 12581080)
would a charity like that welcome AFF?

i mean you help men get pussy no? it might put people off if you try to mix that with helping kids

Wow

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 12581199)
i dont see how your money is any better than mine

A question probably better directed to ASACP. Just an FYI, just because they would not accept you a year ago, doesn't mean they won't today. I seem to recall a couple programs that were denied in the past that were later accepted.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 12581230)
At this point, I will be writing a sharply worded letter to the ASACP and their other sponsors suggesting that they should look closely at AFF and it's business choices before accepting any money from them.

I am sure that is going to sting.

Pleasurepays 06-11-2007 12:24 PM

MESSAGE - its ok to support torrent sites that make CP downloads available as long as you kick a few measly bucks back to the ASACP... then you can argue that you have a defensible position as people continue to attack you for all the money you make from CP

this business is overflowing with retards.
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

FightThisPatent 06-11-2007 02:13 PM

looks like posts were lost.. i had posted up after #69

Fight the backup!

Sean 06-11-2007 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 12582275)
MESSAGE - its ok to support torrent sites that make CP downloads available as long as you kick a few measly bucks back to the ASACP... then you can argue that you have a defensible position as people continue to attack you for all the money you make from CP

this business is overflowing with retards.
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh


this is a "put up or shut up" thread. if you want to bitch, then send a check to ASACP. if you are not going to man up, then start a different thread and go play there.

SmokeyTheBear 06-11-2007 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 12581636)
How profitable is the traffic AFF receives from Pirate Bay? Is it insignificant in which case it's value is many times over by showing that they won't do business with them? Is it so valuable that they just can't part with it? In which case is $10,000 really meaningful compared to the tremendous amount of sales it brings by giving them money?

Take a moment. Click the Top 100 torrents. Look in the movie clips category. ASACP Platinum Sponsor worthy links like:
- Young Russian Lolita.avi
- beautiful lolita showing her pussy.avi
- 15yo Russian Teen Model.avi
- Young Lolita Model.avi
- Nelia Russian Teen Model 2.avi

ASACP is slacking. I thought they used to discriminate better.

Yes, it stands to reason that if almost ANY other sponsor or company presented the exact same offer, it would be well received.

:thumbsup
asacp just lost alot of credibility

ThumbLord 06-11-2007 02:40 PM

thanks for the news. good to know that AFF's is doing finally something for ASACP ( pun intended ) but for me it is another cause to mark off my list.

Aussie Rebel 06-11-2007 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 12582275)
MESSAGE - its ok to support torrent sites that make CP downloads available as long as you kick a few measly bucks back to the ASACP... then you can argue that you have a defensible position as people continue to attack you for all the money you make from CP

this business is overflowing with retards.
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

He only did it to take the heat off him and his company because of all the posts accusing him of supporting torrent sites with CP on them, if there was no one posting about torrent sites with CP he wouldn't of stepped up to the plate either.
Dont bother asking me to step up to the plate and donate lars, because I can see thru all your smoke and mirror bullshit.

You and AFF are a skidmark on the bed sheets of the adult industry

RawAlex 06-11-2007 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StuartD (Post 12581445)
Wow, some of you guys are so narrow focused.

Hate them all you want, but seriously... ASACP is not your target. Take the hate out of your eyes. Donate or don't. Hate AFF or don't.

But some of you are just getting ridiculous in this thread.

This is pretty much on par with someone sticking you up in the street, and then giving a donation to your favorite charity because you were a good victim.

The ASACP should really consider applying some pretty stringent "partner standards of conduct" before just letting anyone in the door. Perhaps they can get Zango and those codec fuckers on 88.255 to join the party too.

Lower you standards far enough, and you won't have to worry about having any.

RawAlex 06-11-2007 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by damian2001 (Post 12582048)
Good one Lars - a considered and responsible step.

Perhaps some of the haters in this and the other threads could learn something.

When you discover there is a problem don't just come on here and randomly insult people - think of a solution and deal with it in a way that is best for everyone.


If you make enough money off the sites giving away CP videos, you too can donate to anti-CP groups. Yup, the lesson is clear and understood.

This makes me ill.

Pleasurepays 06-11-2007 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Irish Pimp (Post 12582345)
this is a "put up or shut up" thread. if you want to bitch, then send a check to ASACP. if you are not going to man up, then start a different thread and go play there.

no... this is a "well jesus christ, we have no credibility anymore and can't post anything without people raising a lot of very valid points about our ethics... how can we create a thread without owning ourselves" thread.

you support torrent sites
you support warez sites
you support anyone and everyone that rips of adult webmasters content
you support the torrent sites that link to CP downloads



how about YOU put up or shut up and stop supporting this shit to begin with?

... or are you really expecting everyone to fall for this "hey everybody, come praise us for our selective ethics" routine?

Pleasurepays 06-11-2007 03:05 PM

Hi All,

I'm a serial rapist... can anyone recommend a good rape support group that i can donate money to? I want to work on my image.

Thanks for your time!

Xenophage 06-11-2007 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 12582556)
If you make enough money off the sites giving away CP videos, you too can donate to anti-CP groups. Yup, the lesson is clear and understood.

This makes me ill.


You dont care about protecting children you just care about your agenda and this has been made very clear in this thread.

To the haters we have been working with ASACP on this release for well over a month long before some of these issues arose, and now that we have a clear understanding of the issues they are being addressed, I know you dont want solutions as it harms your hate mongering, but we do really care about protecting children and do not in any way support anything harmful of minors.

Why not put your hate aside and stand up with an industry leader and help lead the charge to protect children, Go to those sites you find an issue with and report to them any search results you find offensive, I know you could do that on google and yahoo all day long.

RawAlex 06-11-2007 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LegendaryLars (Post 12582639)
You dont care about protecting children you just care about your agenda and this has been made very clear in this thread.

incorrect - if you knew anything about me, you would know how hard I have worked on causes such as this.

Your company is like the wife beater giving a donation to the women's shelter. From the outside, it looks more like you are trying to buy credibility than you are truly wanting to help a cause, especially because you chose a cause that is exactly in an area your company is having issues with.

You want to help clean up the world? You want to help stop the spread of CP? Stop paying the torrent sites for ad space - stop them from being part of your program, and encourage actively your friends and "bros" to do likewise. You guys are the big shit, you have the chance to do something right - don't just whip out the check book and hope everyone forgets. Not everyone is that dumb.

Try doing something positive in your own back yard before you lord it over on the rest of us.

Aussie Rebel 06-11-2007 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LegendaryLars (Post 12582639)
You dont care about protecting children you just care about your agenda and this has been made very clear in this thread.

To the haters we have been working with ASACP on this release for well over a month long before some of these issues arose, and now that we have a clear understanding of the issues they are being addressed, I know you dont want solutions as it harms your hate mongering, but we do really care about protecting children and do not in any way support anything harmful of minors.

Why not put your hate aside and stand up with an industry leader and help lead the charge to protect children, Go to those sites you find an issue with and report to them any search results you find offensive, I know you could do that on google and yahoo all day long.

KIDS DONT HAVE CREDIT CARDS THEY DOWNLOAD FREE STOLEN PORN FROM TORRENT SITES WHICH YOU SUPPORT! YOUR NOT PROTECTING ANYONE BUT YOURSELF!

Pleasurepays 06-11-2007 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LegendaryLars (Post 12582639)
You dont care about protecting children you just care about your agenda and this has been made very clear in this thread.

To the haters we have been working with ASACP on this release for well over a month long before some of these issues arose, and now that we have a clear understanding of the issues they are being addressed, I know you dont want solutions as it harms your hate mongering..

solutions? like "we stopped using zango to steal your traffic and sales because the cost per click went up"

what is AFF's position on supporting torrent sites that link to CP and webmasters stolen content?

you can clarify it right now and satisfy everyone.

you call people haters for calling you out on your absolutely absurd behavior, remarks, public statements and general lack of concern for the people you are fucking over... then wonder why people would question your credibility on other issues?

you do absolutely nothing unless its to draw attention to yourself. thats what this thread is all about. its the "finally, i figured out a way to get some air time without being beat up again" thread.

if you cared about children,... you wouldn't be supporting torrent sites.
if you cared about the webmasters... you wouldn't be supporting torrent sites
if you care about anyones rights at all, you wouldn't be supporting torrent sites

Sean 06-11-2007 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 12582594)
no... this is a "well jesus christ, we have no credibility anymore and can't post anything without people raising a lot of very valid points about our ethics... how can we create a thread without owning ourselves" thread.

you support torrent sites
you support warez sites
you support anyone and everyone that rips of adult webmasters content
you support the torrent sites that link to CP downloads



how about YOU put up or shut up and stop supporting this shit to begin with?

... or are you really expecting everyone to fall for this "hey everybody, come praise us for our selective ethics" routine?

either dontate to the ACACP, or start a different thread. find your own voice man, stop trying to use someone else's. if you want to bitch, donate. period. or move on with your hate. its time to show what you have

Sean 06-11-2007 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 12582697)
if you cared about children,... you wouldn't be supporting torrent sites.
if you cared about the webmasters... you wouldn't be supporting torrent sites
if you care about anyones rights at all, you wouldn't be supporting torrent sites


write a check or move on.

RawAlex 06-11-2007 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Irish Pimp (Post 12582736)
either dontate to the ACACP, or start a different thread. find your own voice man, stop trying to use someone else's. if you want to bitch, donate. period. or move on with your hate. its time to show what you have

We are showing what we have - morals that can't be bought. What exactly do you have on the table?

ThumbLord 06-11-2007 03:24 PM

I do not think it is hate Irish Pimp.
I do not think it is about donating Irish Pimp
but I do think it is about simple things like:
you support torrent sites
you support warez sites
you support anyone and everyone that rips of adult webmasters content
you support the torrent sites that link to CP downloads

and a lot more, just read

Xenophage 06-11-2007 03:24 PM

So I guess I should stop advertising on Google since people can search for stuff that we dont support ? GROW UP Your agenda are clear and they are at this point pathetic attmpts to tie two issues together which have nothing to do with each other, just a convienent set of contitions youa re exploiting everyone on gfy sees what is really going on and you are looking like fools.

Sean 06-11-2007 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 12582682)
Try doing something positive in your own back yard before you lord it over on the rest of us.


pay to hate alex. that is the game for this week. we can call it "wheel of hate". you alread have the right name for the game

Sean 06-11-2007 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 12582742)
We are showing what we have - morals that can't be bought. What exactly do you have on the table?


who is we. team hate-aff? do you need bowling shirts?

Xenophage 06-11-2007 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 12582682)
incorrect - if you knew anything about me, you would know how hard I have worked on causes such as this.

Your company is like the wife beater giving a donation to the women's shelter. From the outside, it looks more like you are trying to buy credibility than you are truly wanting to help a cause, especially because you chose a cause that is exactly in an area your company is having issues with.

You want to help clean up the world? You want to help stop the spread of CP? Stop paying the torrent sites for ad space - stop them from being part of your program, and encourage actively your friends and "bros" to do likewise. You guys are the big shit, you have the chance to do something right - don't just whip out the check book and hope everyone forgets. Not everyone is that dumb.

Try doing something positive in your own back yard before you lord it over on the rest of us.


I am sorry but in this case you are just wrong ! I know I wont convince you otherwise, But we really do care about this issue.

here is a post I made about this issue some time back

http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=...highlight=icra

oh and tehre is another thread I started some YEARS ago about this same thing, but I guess its something I just dreamed up to look good, Man you guys are reaching.

Sean 06-11-2007 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThumbLord (Post 12582751)
I do not think it is hate Irish Pimp.
I do not think it is about donating Irish Pimp
but I do think it is about simple things like:
you support torrent sites
you support warez sites
you support anyone and everyone that rips of adult webmasters content
you support the torrent sites that link to CP downloads

and a lot more, just read

i have read it all. again and again. our name is on the front page of the board ever day. we are raising money for ASACP in this thread. there are lots of other threads to get on the bandwagon with. dozens.

RawAlex 06-11-2007 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Irish Pimp (Post 12582757)
pay to hate alex. that is the game for this week. we can call it "wheel of hate". you alread have the right name for the game


Do you think it would be all better if the rapist tipped the victim after?

Do you think it would be all better if after murdering someone, you donated $20 to their favorite charity?

Do you honestly think that donating money to and oganizations and sullying THEIR reputation suddenly buys credibility?

The money goes away, and the CP videos are still on the torrent sites that you guys are actively supporting and now actively protecting.

It isn't about writing a big check, it is about doing right. You guys don't get it, and I hope that ASACP wakes up and smells the stinking shit you guys just took all over their reputation.

Aussie Rebel 06-11-2007 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LegendaryLars (Post 12582639)
You dont care about protecting children you just care about your agenda and this has been made very clear in this thread.

To the haters we have been working with ASACP on this release for well over a month long before some of these issues arose, and now that we have a clear understanding of the issues they are being addressed, I know you dont want solutions as it harms your hate mongering, but we do really care about protecting children and do not in any way support anything harmful of minors.

Why not put your hate aside and stand up with an industry leader and help lead the charge to protect children, Go to those sites you find an issue with and report to them any search results you find offensive, I know you could do that on google and yahoo all day long.

I don't see why you keep saying everyone has an agenda , people are just sick of seeing AFF banners flying on shady sites that are stealing from them and that have questionable content,

Xenophage 06-11-2007 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 12582781)
Do you think it would be all better if the rapist tipped the victim after?

Do you think it would be all better if after murdering someone, you donated $20 to their favorite charity?

Do you honestly think that donating money to and oganizations and sullying THEIR reputation suddenly buys credibility?

The money goes away, and the CP videos are still on the torrent sites that you guys are actively supporting and now actively protecting.

It isn't about writing a big check, it is about doing right. You guys don't get it, and I hope that ASACP wakes up and smells the stinking shit you guys just took all over their reputation.


Oh so now we are equal to rapist and murderers ?

Your pathetic

I already said we are working with advertisers including google and yahoo and all others who have search functionality so that our ads wont appear next to any of these kind of results, remember there is no content on a search engine, but even that we dont want to support so we are working to get our ads away from any results of this nature, I believe we are the first in this industry to take action in this area, and I am proud that we are.

Sean 06-11-2007 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 12582781)
Do you think it would be all better if the rapist tipped the victim after?

Do you think it would be all better if after murdering someone, you donated $20 to their favorite charity?

Do you honestly think that donating money to and oganizations and sullying THEIR reputation suddenly buys credibility?

The money goes away, and the CP videos are still on the torrent sites that you guys are actively supporting and now actively protecting.

It isn't about writing a big check, it is about doing right. You guys don't get it, and I hope that ASACP wakes up and smells the stinking shit you guys just took all over their reputation.

step the fuck up alex and write a check for $500. and then i will banter with you all day long. it should not be a lot of money for you, and its for a good cause.

or move to a different thread. we will pin a thread just for you. the i hate AFF thread. it will only cost you a one time donation.


in fact, i might even sell you guys my sig. you can make a team hater banner if each of you dotates to the ASACP.

or move on.

RawAlex 06-11-2007 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Irish Pimp (Post 12582764)
who is we. team hate-aff? do you need bowling shirts?

You got the hater part down just right. Shout down other people, "put up or shut up" and totally ignore the issues.

No matter how much money you guys send to ASACP, it won't match the harm done by easily distribution of CP, which you guys are supporting.

Don't you think the donation is putting the cart before the horse? Stop with the torrent sites already. Stop with the spyware. Stop with the horseshit... and then MAYBE, just MAYBE, you might have enough credibilty to get people to donate.

At this point, your presence in ASACP may end up costing them money.

tony286 06-11-2007 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LegendaryLars (Post 12582776)
I am sorry but in this case you are just wrong ! I know I wont convince you otherwise, But we really do care about this issue.

here is a post I made about this issue some time back

http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=...highlight=icra

oh and tehre is another thread I started some YEARS ago about this same thing, but I guess its something I just dreamed up to look good, Man you guys are reaching.

If you really cared Lars, BT's give Children access to free stolen porn and you let them be affiliates.Your a smart guy and you know all this. Please have some balls and say fuck you to the industry instead of these games its insulting.

Xenophage 06-11-2007 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 12582828)
If you really cared Lars, BT's give Children access to free stolen porn and you let them be affiliates.

So all TGPS should be shut down then too in your opinion. Please rediculous.

tony286 06-11-2007 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LegendaryLars (Post 12582840)
So all TGPS should be shut down then too in your opinion. Please rediculous.

You know what Im talking about, Im tired of these sharks with no balls. Its like your going to fuck the industry be a fucking man and say I dont give a shit about any of you Im out for me and the buck. This look at me Im really good guy is boring.

ThumbLord 06-11-2007 03:41 PM

yes good idea, just shut down all TGP's brilliant.


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