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mikeyddddd · 02-27-2007, 09:43 AM

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TheSenator · 02-27-2007, 09:44 AM

Yeah, 40% is pretty shitty and you are not a Jordan Capri.

I highly doubt any good webmaster would push your program. Your photographer doesn't know anything about Internet marketing. Raise it to 60% and I would consider.

TheSenator · 02-27-2007, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by isabelamodel

yeah they are doing those today or tomorrow. the idea is to do the official launch by monday next week.

So quick question. i have read about TGP submitters like chameleon. so would i just create a gallery and submit it to these sites then? easy as that?

Yeah, really easy. You might make at 10 to 15 sign ups a day.

theS2O · 02-27-2007, 09:52 AM

congrats with your first site!

lazycash · 02-27-2007, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by isabelamodel

Nah i dont wanna be a fake girl, i just wanna be me on that site. I've had some guys say i like i'm 17 years old. I'm never one to complain about guys thinking i'm younger. But also a girl in her early 20's knows better how to take care of a guy you'd think!

Lol, you've got a bit to learn, trust me you are getting good advice, now act on it. Solo girl sites are a dime a dozen these days and your site doesn't seem to have anything special to separate it. If you don't pay out at least 50% nobody will promote you, do you really think webmasters are going to waste their traffic on you for $8/sale? Please don't continue the charade of you being the model, just come out and tell us you are the webmaster and we'll be more inclined to help you. You'd have to be an idiot to misspell your own name for your gfy nick.

DutchTeenCash · 02-27-2007, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by lazycash

Lol, you've got a bit to learn.

I was gonna post something like that as well - though AH well forget it.

Imagine if Id walk into a hospital saying I wanna be a surgeon but have no papers but just wanna try to see if it works. Everyone would go nuts. But in our biz nope everyone with a camera gets a try and they all wonder.

isabelamodel · 02-27-2007, 10:23 AM

if i had a decent camera i'd prove to you I am the girl. and no i don't want to be fake. i don't care if it means less sales, i'm not going to sell out. i mean i look over various sites the girls are always 18-19 years old. Why should you lie to your customer base. I'm an honest girl.

Now to re-iterate the $8 per sale. Imagine you order a pizza delivery place. your large deluxe pizza costs $19.95. Are you going to pay the delivery driver $10.00 to deliver the pizza for you. If you think from a business standpoint it really confuses me.

Dirty F · 02-27-2007, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by isabelamodel

if i had a decent camera i'd prove to you I am the girl. and no i don't want to be fake. i don't care if it means less sales, i'm not going to sell out. i mean i look over various sites the girls are always 18-19 years old. Why should you lie to your customer base. I'm an honest girl.

Now to re-iterate the $8 per sale. Imagine you order a pizza delivery place. your large deluxe pizza costs $19.95. Are you going to pay the delivery driver $10.00 to deliver the pizza for you. If you think from a business standpoint it really confuses me.

Jesus, stop it already. Just take the goddamn advice if you want to make some money. Unless you are here because it was always a dream of yours to have a model site and dont care about the money.

Its your first site and you are on a forum where people have been pusing similar sites for the last 7 years. Maybe they know what they are talking about and you dont?

Now read what people say and stfu. You sound like Spacedog. He also thinks he always knows better while he actually knows shit.

TheSenator · 02-27-2007, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by isabelamodel

if i had a decent camera i'd prove to you I am the girl. and no i don't want to be fake. i don't care if it means less sales, i'm not going to sell out. i mean i look over various sites the girls are always 18-19 years old. Why should you lie to your customer base. I'm an honest girl.

Now to re-iterate the $8 per sale. Imagine you order a pizza delivery place. your large deluxe pizza costs $19.95. Are you going to pay the delivery driver $10.00 to deliver the pizza for you. If you think from a business standpoint it really confuses me.

Funniest thread ever.

You have a lot to learn. I would take the advice given to you.

DutchTeenCash · 02-27-2007, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by isabelamodel

if i had a decent camera i'd prove to you I am the girl. and no i don't want to be fake. i don't care if it means less sales, i'm not going to sell out. i mean i look over various sites the girls are always 18-19 years old. Why should you lie to your customer base. I'm an honest girl.

Now to re-iterate the $8 per sale. Imagine you order a pizza delivery place. your large deluxe pizza costs $19.95. Are you going to pay the delivery driver $10.00 to deliver the pizza for you. If you think from a business standpoint it really confuses me.

there is nothing confusing bout it

It seems you have no experience in sales or marketing - but hey everyone has to learn at a point so lemme tell you in a few sec.

EVERY sale is built like this. In or outside the industry. Adult or selling Oreos.

consumerprice = resellerprice / profit

Theres always a 2nd layer. Youre producing, webmaster are REselling and consumers are buying. So yes that pizzaguy delivers pizza thats made from tomatoes who are grown and resold and profit added. The pizzaplace makes the pizza, he delivers and you pay the consumerprice. So the $10 is already in the pizza.

If youre trying to skip a step and offer a lower profit for the reseller aka webmaster, there must be a valid reason for this. You could have a unique product for instance. But you dont. What you have is the most difficult situation. Selling a new product to an existing market consumer.

Trust me the 40% is not gonna work. Unless you are going to offer something that noone else has. If you do hit me up Im sure there are tons of people here whod love to invest in that.

DutchTeenCash · 02-27-2007, 10:39 AM

Oh and about the lying. Try seeing it as enhancing the truth.

Hot 18yo brunette teen shows off her bouncy ass or girl drops her pants - what does sound more enticing? I think you know

tony286 · 02-27-2007, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Franck

Yo dude, you need to stay in your role as the model chick. You tried to convince us you were the model and couldnt even spell her name right and now with this post you post as a webmaster?

Now all the idiots here who were typing with 1 hand are all dissapointed and will stop giving all this free advice.

yeah i know , why doesnt he just come out as the webmaster and say i have a new site lol

TheSenator · 02-27-2007, 10:41 AM

Thread Killer.... Check out what she is offering.

She converts period!

corbu · 02-27-2007, 10:45 AM

goodluck

_Richard_ · 02-27-2007, 10:48 AM

the site needs to be hammered out and you need competitive payouts for webmasters. Competitive IS business sense.

Looking good! Good luck

R

Sinstar · 02-27-2007, 10:54 AM

50% of something is better than 60% of nothing.

DutchTeenCash · 02-27-2007, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Sinstar

50% of something is better than 60% of nothing.

uhuh

but

40% of almost nothing isnt really something

aroy3719 · 02-27-2007, 11:13 AM

Nice looking girl.

jscott · 02-27-2007, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by LustyBucks

And you aren't 23.. You are 19 [wink][wink]...
There will be plenty of time to be 23 when you are 27...

good advice!

haha, sad but true lol

Iron Fist · 02-27-2007, 12:25 PM

Oh and from your webmaster page (affiliate program page):

We are currently seeking webmasters looking to promote our website. Isabellamodel.com is a website with a hot up and coming model. Why promote non-nude or topless websites with lower recurring sales when you can promote a site dedicated to a high retainership of recurring sales!

Now I take a little offence to that statement. Why? Becuase that's exactly what I promote - non nude and topless/softcore.

My suggestion is - don't try to say your better than any type of niche. Non Nude/Softcore traffic can convert hardcore as well - I can gaurantee you that not every one of my surfers *JUST* loves non nude or softcore, so don't limit the people who might be interested in throwing a couple thousand uniques your way just to try it out - you've got nothing to lose.

DutchTeenCash · 02-27-2007, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by sharphead

Oh and from your webmaster page (affiliate program page):

We are currently seeking webmasters looking to promote our website. Isabellamodel.com is a website with a hot up and coming model. Why promote non-nude or topless websites with lower recurring sales when you can promote a site dedicated to a high retainership of recurring sales!

Now I take a little offence to that statement. Why? Becuase that's exactly what I promote - non nude and topless/softcore.

My suggestion is - don't try to say your better than any type of niche. Non Nude/Softcore traffic can convert hardcore as well - I can gaurantee you that not every one of my surfers *JUST* loves non nude or softcore, so don't limit the people who might be interested in throwing a couple thousand uniques your way just to try it out - you've got nothing to lose.

exactly nn and softcore sells - plus Im not seeing any hardcore on her site so

lazycash · 02-27-2007, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by isabelamodel

if i had a decent camera i'd prove to you I am the girl. and no i don't want to be fake. i don't care if it means less sales, i'm not going to sell out. i mean i look over various sites the girls are always 18-19 years old. Why should you lie to your customer base. I'm an honest girl.

Now to re-iterate the $8 per sale. Imagine you order a pizza delivery place. your large deluxe pizza costs $19.95. Are you going to pay the delivery driver $10.00 to deliver the pizza for you. If you think from a business standpoint it really confuses me.

From your pizza analogy, you are looking at all wrong. Lets say out of that $20 pizza, the total costs to make it including labor come out to $6. Then you turn around and pay out $10 to someone to market and sell it for you and deliver it which leaves you $4 in net profit. Your choice is to pay out $8 to the marketer/seller and increase your margin to $6. In the end you can move 100 pizzas a month and make your $600 net profit, or you can sell 1000 pizzas and make $4000 (1000 x $4) net profit. Its all about total profit dollars.

The only reason you would be stuck with having to pay out 40% is because either you are being greedy on what you think you should make on each sale or those who produced your content and designed your site are asking for too large of a chunk and not leaving much left over for you. If you are indeed the model, my apologies, but I would have expected the model to have been much more open minded, its usually the webmasters who think they know it all.

lazycash · 02-27-2007, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DutchTeenCash

exactly nn and softcore sells - plus Im not seeing any hardcore on her site so

Yeah I noticed that it said "hardcore videos" on her front page. Yet she tells us she is shy about taking off her clothes in front of the camera. I'm guessing there is no hardcore content in her site.

rowan · 02-27-2007, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by isabelamodel

Now to re-iterate the $8 per sale. Imagine you order a pizza delivery place. your large deluxe pizza costs $19.95. Are you going to pay the delivery driver $10.00 to deliver the pizza for you. If you think from a business standpoint it really confuses me.

You need to think about the big picture rather than just profit per sale. Your pizza analogy falls apart because the cost price of a new membership is not a large portion of the signup price. A few more hits on your server, and an increase in the average support emails by maybe 0.1 emails per month.

You can pay 50%, still be fussy, and make more money than if you continue offering 40%. Remember, affiliates choose to promote you, not the other way around. Some will not even consider joining for 40%.

latinasojourn · 02-28-2007, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by isabelamodel

There are other avenues of getting signups per say cheaper than paying a person 50%. right now it's all hard to say how things are going to go. I have received tonnes of good feedback about my looks and what not. i am hopeful that when ccbill starts taking payments for us it'll be easier.

truth is, IF this is a solo model site building on personal contact with the surfer there is only so much original content that can be created.

and if this original content is very special you do not need an affiliate program to make best ROI.

so disregard much of this nonsense about affiliate program. you are not bangbros shooting tons of new content all the time---you are a boutique site.

suggest no affiliates, and very original unique content and high membership price.

the key is IF you have unique original content---if you do, do not water it down with the affiliate business model, especially if YOU are the content.

Galina Los · 02-28-2007, 08:04 AM

well good job dude! keep on doing this way! congrats on the first site!

DutchTeenCash · 02-28-2007, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by lazycash

From your pizza analogy, you are looking at all wrong.

yeah

she has zero clue bout marketing - someone should teach her/him cause this is gonna go wrong on so many levels.

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Tat2Jr · 03-07-2007, 03:09 AM

Is it just me or is the site down? I can't even see what I won't be promoting because you offer too little.

The Sultan Of Smut · 03-07-2007, 03:23 AM

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Please contact the server administrator, and inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error.

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Elixir · 03-07-2007, 03:32 AM

I can not open isabellamodel.com too

rowan · 03-07-2007, 03:40 AM

Working for me... I can see both yellow and blue faces!

DutchTeenCash · 03-07-2007, 06:16 AM

500 int serv error

nice :/

gfy1016 · 03-07-2007, 06:22 AM

cannot load the site. i suggest taking the advice from people that are experienced and been through it all. i would be thankful you can get that type of information for free from people who really mean it.

out of curiousity how much $ was invested into this site, that is if you dont mind sharing that information.

SkeetSkeet · 03-07-2007, 06:27 AM

yup down here too

rvincent · 03-07-2007, 08:15 AM

getting 'Error 500' when trying to access it...

jopie · 03-08-2007, 12:47 AM

Nothing happening here. Dirty franck is cracking me up!

TeenCat · 03-08-2007, 02:30 AM

second day down, members must be really happy ...

jdc · 03-08-2007, 06:06 AM

hoe hoe hoe.... congrats dude!

gandalfuy · 03-08-2007, 09:23 AM

i cant see shit

Redmanthatcould · 03-08-2007, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by TeenCat

second day down, members must be really happy ...

Yea, I even tried checking the google cache to see what things everyone was pointing out, but it only cached the affiliate page.

jasonjackie · 04-03-2007, 01:05 AM

it does not load

free4porn · 04-03-2007, 03:45 AM

cant see it

BigPinPin · 04-03-2007, 04:49 AM

doesn´t load...what happend ?

PurrrsianPussyKat · 04-03-2007, 05:12 AM

Guess she didn't become a millionaire in a week.

Empress_JoinRightNow · 04-03-2007, 06:23 AM

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WebShell4

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