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Lord Aga 12-14-2006 02:46 PM

http://images.google.co.uk/images?q=...8&sa=N&ndsp=18

You think google has the 2257 info for all those thumbs?

NoComments 12-14-2006 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 11528323)
his attorney apparently really sucks.


he has one, I glad nobody took me on the bet.
:)

I gotta visit "Mayflower" more often
:)

jact 12-14-2006 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Aga (Post 11528495)
http://images.google.co.uk/images?q=...8&sa=N&ndsp=18

You think google has the 2257 info for all those thumbs?

Maybe google.com should be shut down!!! :upsidedow

sarettah 12-14-2006 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDSmith (Post 11528367)
Remember guys, that is all sponsor-owned content, much of it if not all of it from sponsors that many of you also promote. Slick is just an affiliate using that content in good faith like any other affiliate, and the 2257 statements from ALL of those sponsors I've looked at all say that their content is legal and their models of legal age at the time of production.

Not quite.

There was one thumb that linked to a site that the Danish authorities shut down. Slick said that was a trade, so it was not linking to his sponsor content (FHGs). However, hs 2257 statement claims that the thumbs come from the galleries he is linking to.

So, say you were a fed and just clicking around, you see the statement, you click the thmb, the Danish message saying they took down the gallery for cp comes up and voila, 1+1 makes 3, the thumb must be cp because it ame from a gallery that another legal authority has already labeled as cp.



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dig420 12-14-2006 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 11528480)
i think you are confused and you simply see what you want to see. i dont have any clue what you are talking about. i talk about the law, facts and reality... not why my opinion should be everyone else's opinion as you do. i can talk about how it is without saying "thats how i want things to be in the process" - you can't. i can talk about my ideas and opinions and be honest with myself in that they are just the ideas, opinions and viewpoints of one individual... and there are 300,000,000 other perspectives that are equally valid.. you can't.

you evade real conversation and debate with attempts at redirecting everything and turning it into a political/religious discussion. ... that just proves how over the edge you are... i dont believe in god and i have never voted.

man whatever, you're so fucking wishy washy I'm tired of dealing with it, you're just some dude hiding behind an anon nick anyways.

You're a 'type', whether you like it or not, one of those guys who gets in every political thread on the conservative side and then is shocked, SHOCKED, when someone calls you a republican. You're not original, and frankly you're not interesting either. I've already given you too many keystrokes.

will76 12-14-2006 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nastynun (Post 11528453)
You got a point are any of those sponsors providing proper docs for their affiliates? No..

Good faith is not good enough in this business.

I would give someone good faith on a traffic trade or some shit like that. I wouldn't take 14 year old looking content from someone and put it on my site under the persumption that the content (100% of it is) is legal. I wouldn't take ANYONE's word for it. I wouldn't touch the shit without having my own docs in hand.

It amazes me how many people put their lives on the line trusting companies they don't know. I don't give a shit how many parties through or how long they been around. I wouldn't trust my life to no one muchless some affiliate company.

Lord Aga 12-14-2006 02:47 PM

http://images.google.co.uk/images?sv...ex&btnG=Search

Wonder how google got the 2257 info for the horses! lolol

NoComments 12-14-2006 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Aga (Post 11528495)
http://images.google.co.uk/images?q=...8&sa=N&ndsp=18

You think google has the 2257 info for all those thumbs?

fucking shit...we now have to meet on GFY...what the heck happened to our good 'ole personal moments????

How the heck are you, Rich!?

dig420 12-14-2006 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Winetalk (Post 11528501)
he has one, I glad nobody took me on the bet.
:)

I gotta visit "Mayflower" more often
:)

I think I'm banned from there now, dunno if it was done a while ago or just since this debacle began.

LadyMischief 12-14-2006 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 11528456)
you just made the point that i keep making again and again that no one has corrected. YOU violate the law for providing it. THEY dont violate the law for asking it.

Where in the law does it require registrars to do anything other than REPORT? I don't think report and INVESTIGATE are the same thing, are they?

Slick 12-14-2006 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 11528469)
Slick, if your lawyer was, umm, working hard, he would just find a process server or other to go by the Directnic offices and drop something on them. But I wouldn't have to explain this to a lawyer.

The biggest problem I'm facing is that my attorney is located in L.A. and the quickest way to go get something going is go get someone in New Orleans, so we're trying to find the right person there. One guy we talked to, has a partner that's out in London now, so he wanted to take the time to review it with him, so he said that he could do nothing until Monday, which as you know, is a few days away, I need action NOW.

We're working on it.

Carrie 12-14-2006 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 11528323)
his attorney apparently really sucks.


ALL IMAGES ARE TAKEN/PRODUCED FROM THE SPONSORS' CONTENT THAT ARE FULLY COMPLIANT WITH THE 18 U.S.C § 2257 LAW. ALL IMAGES ARE TAKEN FROM THE GALLERIES/SITES THEY LINK TO. IF ANYONE QUESTIONS THE LEGALITY OF THE IMAGES DISPLAYED, THEY CAN FIND ALL RECORDS AT THE FOLLOWING LIST OF 18 U.S.C § 2257 STATEMENTS. THIS LIST IS NOT COMPLETE YET, BUT WILL BE UPDATED SHORTLY.

http://majorpervert.com/2257.html

That page was last updated on May 4th, 2006.
Which begs the question, how short is "shortly"?

jact 12-14-2006 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slick (Post 11528518)
The biggest problem I'm facing is that my attorney is located in L.A. and the quickest way to go get something going is go get someone in New Orleans, so we're trying to find the right person there. One guy we talked to, has a partner that's out in London now, so he wanted to take the time to review it with him, so he said that he could do nothing until Monday, which as you know, is a few days away, I need action NOW.

We're working on it.

Slick, drop me an email to [email protected].

Pleasurepays 12-14-2006 02:50 PM

and lets set the record straigh Dig420........


I DONT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT HIS SITES CONTENT. I agree in principle that legal content is legal content. End of story. But unfortuneately, like most things in life, its not always that cut and dry. Many find it offensive and objectionable.. and you know what? I can understand that too. I think the final word should be the law and legal age of consent. I don't try to tell others what to think or feel or what to masturbate to.

However, the fact of the matter is that he intentionally pushed right up to the line and in some ways beyond the line as defined by law... and he bears some responsibility and fault for that. Additionally, the full facts are not known... yet you babble on and on and on as if they are. Hating authority because of your shitty, abusive childhood doesn't mean you have an automatic case everytime someone exercises authority.

Further, you made up your mind about "right and wrong" from reading the thread title of the first thread on the issue and see it as one more chance to make it a political platform and to bash Mike because of his political views and to take one more shot as you guys do and have been doing for the better part of 10 years. You can't have any discussion without talking about religion and politics. You can't have any discussion without eventually trying to make it about religion and politics. From my perspective this discussion is simply about the law and rights and obligations of both parties... not surprisingly, the most rational and logical and intelligent conversation on an issue is usually the last to be had here.

Shakula 12-14-2006 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Winetalk (Post 11528514)
fucking shit...we now have to meet on GFY...what the heck happened to our good 'ole personal moments????

How the heck are you, Rich!?

I must ask you. Ive read some posts about you here on GFY.
You did well during the goldage for porn. But winetalk.com,
2000-20006 and you have about 1000 posts?
Most likely are they yours....

Seems that it was easy back in the day with porn!

dig420 12-14-2006 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Aga (Post 11528512)
http://images.google.co.uk/images?sv...ex&btnG=Search

Wonder how google got the 2257 info for the horses! lolol

I guess google best be expecting a letter from their registrar pretty soon lol

Pleasurepays 12-14-2006 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LadyMischief (Post 11528516)
Where in the law does it require registrars to do anything other than REPORT? I don't think report and INVESTIGATE are the same thing, are they?

that has nothing to do with privacy laws. thanks for playing tho

Lord Aga 12-14-2006 02:52 PM

Hey Serge!! :)

Im Keeping busy! I thought you were abroad again on your travels!

Dirty F 12-14-2006 02:52 PM

300 pedos

dig420 12-14-2006 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 11528533)
and lets set the record straigh Dig420........


I DONT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT HIS SITES CONTENT. I agree in principle that legal content is legal content. End of story. But unfortuneately, like most things in life, its not always that cut and dry. Many find it offensive and objectionable.. and you know what? I can understand that too. I think the final word should be the law and legal age of consent. I don't try to tell others what to think or feel or what to masturbate to.

However, the fact of the matter is that he intentionally pushed right up to the line and in some ways beyond the line as defined by law... and he bears some responsibility and fault for that. Additionally, the full facts are not known... yet you babble on and on and on as if they are. Hating authority because of your shitty, abusive childhood doesn't mean you have an automatic case everytime someone exercises authority.

Further, you made up your mind about "right and wrong" from reading the thread title of the first thread on the issue and see it as one more chance to make it a political platform and to bash Mike because of his political views and to take one more shot as you guys do and have been doing for the better part of 10 years. You can't have any discussion without talking about religion and politics. You can't have any discussion without eventually trying to make it about religion and politics. From my perspective this discussion is simply about the law and rights and obligations of both parties... not surprisingly, the most rational and logical and intelligent conversation on an issue is usually the last to be had here.

ok obviously you are the paragon, the very epitome, of logic, rationalism and intelligence.

Now will you shut the fuck up?

Anthony 12-14-2006 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Aga (Post 11528545)
Hey Serge!! :)

Im Keeping busy! I thought you were abroad again on your travels!

What happend to the horse porn link?!

DAMNIT!!! :)

jact 12-14-2006 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dig420 (Post 11528554)
ok obviously you are the paragon, the very epitome, of logic, rationalism and intelligence.

Now will you shut the fuck up?

I peed myself a little. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

CDSmith 12-14-2006 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 11528506)
Not quite.

There was one thumb that linked to a site that the Danish authorities shut down. Slick said that was a trade, so it was not linking to his sponsor content (FHGs). However, hs 2257 statement claims that the thumbs come from the galleries he is linking to.

So, say you were a fed and just clicking around, you see the statement, you click the thmb, the Danish message saying they took down the gallery for cp comes up and voila, 1+1 makes 3, the thumb must be cp because it ame from a gallery that another legal authority has already labeled as cp..

Not quite.

They deemed the SITE in question as illegal and shut it down. They did not deem the thumb linking the site as illegal. That thumb pertains to it's corresponding gallery, and those thumb links are run by a script that skims some of the traffic and sends it out to trades. When that happens people need to realize that the thumb becomes basically a blind link.

Feds are obviously going to have to be educated about how these scripts and sites and thumbs work, and I have no doubt that it will take several court cases in order to accomplish that, sadly.

Peaches 12-14-2006 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slick (Post 11528518)
The biggest problem I'm facing is that my attorney is located in L.A. and the quickest way to go get something going is go get someone in New Orleans, so we're trying to find the right person there. One guy we talked to, has a partner that's out in London now, so he wanted to take the time to review it with him, so he said that he could do nothing until Monday, which as you know, is a few days away, I need action NOW.

We're working on it.

Googling an attorney in New Orleans would probably do you better good than waiting until Monday.

jact 12-14-2006 02:55 PM

I know why Slick did this! He wants to win the xbox for the longest thread of the week! :1orglaugh

LadyMischief 12-14-2006 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 11528539)
that has nothing to do with privacy laws. thanks for playing tho

But it has everything to do with this case, considering that DirectNic is a REGISTRAR? ;)

CDSmith 12-14-2006 02:58 PM

Slickster, I bet you had no idea your little problem would blow up into the drama of the month for the entire industry, did you?

:D

NoComments 12-14-2006 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dig420 (Post 11528515)
I think I'm banned from there now, dunno if it was done a while ago or just since this debacle began.


nobody banned you,
if you can see this:
http://winetalk.com/forum/member.php?userid=18
you are OK

Jman 12-14-2006 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slick (Post 11528299)
Dude, fuck you. I've been in this fucking business for a lot longer than you and I probably make more than you could ever imagine making doing this. Shut the fuck up.

You just made me spit my tea god damnit :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

If you only knew Slick.

Best advice I can give you is leave the keyboard cause you got bigger things to take care of then seek justice on a site called GO FUCK YOURSELF IMHO

Bake 12-14-2006 03:01 PM

The drama of the year maybe?
If this guy has a lawyer Id be getting a new one.
This is a problem that will be very interesting to see the outcome I hope all the facts come out.

Winetalk do you really need to feed your ego by playing the arrogant asshole with these kids.

nastynun 12-14-2006 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slick (Post 11528518)
The biggest problem I'm facing is that my attorney is located in L.A. and the quickest way to go get something going is go get someone in New Orleans, so we're trying to find the right person there. One guy we talked to, has a partner that's out in London now, so he wanted to take the time to review it with him, so he said that he could do nothing until Monday, which as you know, is a few days away, I need action NOW.

We're working on it.

You might check with Joe http://www.xxxlaw.net/

polish_aristocrat 12-14-2006 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peaches (Post 11528576)
Googling an attorney in New Orleans would probably do you better good than waiting until Monday.

I wouldn't google a dentist, much less an attorney

NoComments 12-14-2006 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Aga (Post 11528545)
Hey Serge!! :)

Im Keeping busy! I thought you were abroad again on your travels!

we were...but came back 4 days ago from Thailand and Cambodia

Peaches 12-14-2006 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat (Post 11528613)
I wouldn't google a dentist, much less an attorney

It's got to be better than what he's getting now. Actually a dentist might be better than the legal advice he's getting now.

dig420 12-14-2006 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Winetalk (Post 11528595)
nobody banned you,
if you can see this:
http://winetalk.com/forum/member.php?userid=18
you are OK

yep I was trying to get into the wrong forum, lost my bookmarks :(

NoComments 12-14-2006 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bake (Post 11528611)

Winetalk do you really need to feed your ego by playing the arrogant asshole with these kids.


yeap...as a matter of fact I do.

Look what happened after we fed an elephant. He didn't complain, 'cuz he is a MAN and you are a bitch!
:)


http://nocomments.com/2/Thailand/Fun...%20tumor...JPG

Carrie 12-14-2006 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDSmith (Post 11528569)
Feds are obviously going to have to be educated about how these scripts and sites and thumbs work, and I have no doubt that it will take several court cases in order to accomplish that, sadly.

Or they could take the less costly and more logical route of hiring an adult webmaster and/or a programmer to explain it to them... but that's not likely to happen.

Brujah 12-14-2006 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jact (Post 11528503)
Maybe google.com should be shut down!!! :upsidedow

Yes! Who is their registrar? :1orglaugh

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sarettah 12-14-2006 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDSmith (Post 11528569)
Feds are obviously going to have to be educated about how these scripts and sites and thumbs work, and I have no doubt that it will take several court cases in order to accomplish that, sadly.

Good luck with that especially when the 2257 statement (a legal statement) says differently.

Legal notices aren't advertisements, they have to speak truth.



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