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JFK 12-14-2006 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Winetalk (Post 11528072)
holy fuck, how do I do it! I love top spot on the page
;)

You Da man Serge:pimp

scottybuzz 12-14-2006 01:25 PM

what programs are we looking at here?! the thumbs are from which programs? solo model programs?

Juicy D. Links 12-14-2006 01:25 PM

down here in NY

RawAlex 12-14-2006 01:26 PM

Here is my quesiton of the day for Slick: Yesterday you and your lawyer were apparently talking to Directnic's legal people. Today they have no legal department?

Call +1 (504) 679-5170 and ask to talk to Sigmund Solarus (I can't spell it, damn it!). He is the top guy, and also (by chance) a lawyer.

Then again, I am sure your lawyer has already been in contact with them numerous times in the last 24 hours, right?

Slick 12-14-2006 01:29 PM

Actually, I'm multi-tasking here. I just got off the phone with an attorney, we're getting the ball rolling.

NoComments 12-14-2006 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 11528005)
yeah, Serge is pretty good at predicting shitstorms for some reason... :)

Alex, I've seen lots of monkeys who thought they had big balls.

And where the monkey now?

Monkey is here, and entertains GFY:




http://nocomments.com/2/Thailand/Fun...IG%20eyes..jpg

Anthony 12-14-2006 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 11528088)
Here is my quesiton of the day for Slick: Yesterday you and your lawyer were apparently talking to Directnic's legal people. Today they have no legal department?

Call +1 (504) 679-5170 and ask to talk to Sigmund Solarus (I can't spell it, damn it!). He is the top guy, and also (by chance) a lawyer.

Then again, I am sure your lawyer has already been in contact with them numerous times in the last 24 hours, right?

Taking into consideration him saying they didnt have a legal department, I doubt Slick has a lawyer.

Oh Btw.

That shit storm I was talking about?!

http://news.google.com/news?q=direct...utf-8&oe=utf-8

This looks to be the start.

Verbal 12-14-2006 01:29 PM

some really questionable looking material on your sites ... I'm not sure how you sleep at night.

RawAlex 12-14-2006 01:30 PM

Monkeys work :)

Slick 12-14-2006 01:32 PM

Actually, we EMAILED DirectNic's legal department, but they have no phone number to call directly. It'd be nice to talk to someone and get this dealt with rather than going through emails which take forever.

Anthony 12-14-2006 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Slick (Post 11528130)
Actually, we EMAILED DirectNic's legal department, but they have no phone number to call directly. It'd be nice to talk to someone and get this dealt with rather than going through emails which take forever.

You should have TALKED to someone at DirectNic before posting about it and escalating imho.

Hindsight is 20/20

Slick 12-14-2006 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Verbal (Post 11528113)
some really questionable looking material on your sites ... I'm not sure how you sleep at night.

The content IS legal. I guess that nobody ever commented on the content before, so I never thought anything about it. This is the first time it was ever pointed out to me, so I guess that now that I know what others think, perhaps I can change the way the sites operate.

sarettah 12-14-2006 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by jact (Post 11527722)
Sued or not, you can't take allegations back, you can't take what people think of you back, you can't reverse the damage that this will do to slick for the rest of his life.

Where did DN make allegations. Slick brought thisto the board, not directnic. Fellow gfyers looked through the sites and told him that it is probably a problem with cp. It was not until folks here asked directnic to say something that Mie posted the dn policy with no real specifics as to Slick.


So, any allegations going on here actually originated here on the boards, not from directnic.

If this had been handled professionally and properly by Slick then noone would even know what was happening besides him and directnic and whoever asked directnic to take a look.

just my :2 cents:



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Pleasurepays 12-14-2006 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Slick (Post 11528140)
The content IS legal. I guess that nobody ever commented on the content before, so I never thought anything about it. This is the first time it was ever pointed out to me, so I guess that now that I know what others think, perhaps I can change the way the sites operate.

its very believable that you really never thought about the niche that you were catering to with a rather large network of TGP's... each with tons of trades to even more dubious content... and surely you can defend the fact that you posted on your own 2257 statement that you didn't have even so much as a link to a custodian of records (which isn't acceptable anyway)

The judge will believe you. Thats the best explanation ever.

Slick 12-14-2006 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony (Post 11528135)
You should have TALKED to someone at DirectNic before posting about it and escalating imho.

Hindsight is 20/20

You can't talk to them when there's no phone number to call. You call support and that's all that it is, basic support people.

JD 12-14-2006 01:43 PM

wow.....

spacedog 12-14-2006 01:43 PM

they load for me?

Good luck..


Sue the friggen pants off of them.

dig420 12-14-2006 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 11528156)
its very believable that you really never thought about the niche that you were catering to with a rather large network of TGP's... each with tons of trades to even more dubious content... and surely you can defend the fact that you posted on your own 2257 statement that you didn't have even so much as a link to a custodian of records (which isn't acceptable anyway)

The judge will believe you. Thats the best explanation ever.

what comes around goes around, there IS such a thing as Karma. You're gloating about prison time for a fellow webmaster, who as far as you know, has done nothing illegal.

One obscenity prosecution coming your way in the near future I hope. That is, if you're actually an adult webmaster and not an evangelical christian come to save our souls. I'd hate to think you're just a garden variety hypocrite.

Anthony 12-14-2006 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Slick (Post 11528161)
You can't talk to them when there's no phone number to call. You call support and that's all that it is, basic support people.

I found this number in 2 clicks. Look at bottom right, at "Contact Us" it gives a phone number. You talk to 1st level support, but always have the option to ask to speak to their manager, and if that doesn't work, the next guy.

You said your sites are your only means of making money, I would move heaven and earth myself if this was the case.

http://www.directnic.net/features/merchant_contact.php

PMdave 12-14-2006 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Slick
Originally Posted by Slick View Post
The content IS legal.

So what's the problem? If you just gave them an ID with a clearly visible picture and birthdate (>they are not asking to see the models name, adress or social security number so don't give me the privacy bs answer) instead of starting drama your domains were still active. Since you are so sure that all that content is legal I assume you have the documents to prove it (and if you don't have the docs you are not 100% sure).

Pleasurepays 12-14-2006 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by dig420 (Post 11528183)
what comes around goes around, there IS such a thing as Karma. You're gloating about prison time for a fellow webmaster, who as far as you know, has done nothing illegal.

One obscenity prosecution coming your way in the near future I hope. That is, if you're actually an adult webmaster and not an evangelical christian come to save our souls. I'd hate to think you're just a garden variety hypocrite.

Will you meet me for gay sex? Seriously. I want to blow you. I will fly down to california.

en21 12-14-2006 01:47 PM

down here too

NoComments 12-14-2006 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by dig420 (Post 11528183)
I'd hate to think you're just a garden variety hypocrite.

you aren't very observant....
you 2 have met, but I won't tell you when and where, it would have been too easy.

Bernie,
c'mon, you care about this slick as much as I care about hairs on my ass. You are worrying about YOU, and there is nothing wrong with it, and what consequences this slick affair will have on you.

The rest is GFY blah-blah-blah
;)

Joe Fredricks 12-14-2006 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 11527530)
I don't know how much DN relies on adult, but I hope for their sake it is minimal as this is the beginning of the end for them I would guess.

I would agree

MorningWood Stefen 12-14-2006 01:49 PM

Total bummer man!

NoComments 12-14-2006 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 11528196)
Will you meet me for gay sex? Seriously. I want to blow you. I will fly down to california.


why do you wanna fly to California? Dig ain't there anymore
;)

dig420 12-14-2006 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 11528196)
Will you meet me for gay sex? Seriously. I want to blow you. I will fly down to california.

I would have thought that blowing me was against your born-again morality, since you're all in favor of anyone running a teen site having their life ruined and thrown in prison, where they can be brutalized beyond recognition. Pretty comical huh? Funny.

I bet you cry like a bitch when it's your turn.

dig420 12-14-2006 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Winetalk (Post 11528210)
you aren't very observant....
you 2 have met, but I won't tell you when and where, it would have been too easy.

Bernie,
c'mon, you care about this slick as much as I care about hairs on my ass. You are worrying about YOU, and there is nothing wrong with it, and what consequences this slick affair will have on you.

The rest is GFY blah-blah-blah
;)


Hell yes I am, and I never denied it. I don't want my registrar up in my business. I satisfy my host, I satisfy my lawyers, and that's all I want to deal with. I don't need registrars suddenly thinking they run my business.

Do you know that now that DN has assumed responsibility for policing the domains they service they have put themselves in a position where they can be sued anytime someone finds something illegal on any domain they service?

FunkyDog 12-14-2006 01:54 PM

Slick, isn't it possible to get a hold of Mike's contact details thruw someone at GFY and just try to call him directly.
I think if you deal with it directly in a friendly mather things might get resolved faster then you think. I would spend a few hours doing that before going thruw the legal departement.

Just :2 cents:

Anyway, i hope things get resolved fast for you.

Webby 12-14-2006 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Slick (Post 11528161)
You can't talk to them when there's no phone number to call. You call support and that's all that it is, basic support people.

Slick my man :winkwink: WHY ARE YOU HERE WASTING TIME???

If you lawyer is still communicating by email - he's an idiot.

Lift the phone and get contact with whoever and get thru to whoever is the CEO of that idiot registrar or their company secretary (who should be the legal representative of that company). Ask them (a) fax number and (b) phone number (c) and for a faxed copy of the full nature of the complaint and on the registrars letterhead and complete with address and contact information of the writer. Then get your lawyer to address the problem (tho he should have done that already)

This is sounding like more lala land every day :pimp

Anthony 12-14-2006 01:58 PM

The CEO's info was already posted, with phone number...

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Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 11528088)
Here is my quesiton of the day for Slick: Yesterday you and your lawyer were apparently talking to Directnic's legal people. Today they have no legal department?

Call +1 (504) 679-5170 and ask to talk to Sigmund Solarus (I can't spell it, damn it!). He is the top guy, and also (by chance) a lawyer.

Then again, I am sure your lawyer has already been in contact with them numerous times in the last 24 hours, right?


Slick 12-14-2006 02:01 PM

So Sigmund Solarus IS Direct Nic's main attorney ?? and that's his contact info ?

FunkyDog 12-14-2006 02:02 PM

Here are the contact details for the Intercosmos Media Group who own DirectNIC:

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php...a_Group%2C_Inc.

Hope this helps

ElvisManson 12-14-2006 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony (Post 11528112)
Taking into consideration him saying they didnt have a legal department, I doubt Slick has a lawyer.

Oh Btw.

That shit storm I was talking about?!

http://news.google.com/news?q=direct...utf-8&oe=utf-8

This looks to be the start.

I wonder if their enforcement policy had anything to do with this?

http://www.f-secure.com/weblog/archi....html#00001041

NoComments 12-14-2006 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by dig420 (Post 11528232)

Do you know that now that DN has assumed responsibility for policing the domains they service they have put themselves in a position where they can be sued anytime someone finds something illegal on any domain they service?

and how come that become your problem all of a sudden? Let THEM worry 'bout it. BTW, if Pleasurepays blows you, will you post your impressions on GFY? I bet $1000 that you will chicken out!

Anthony 12-14-2006 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Slick (Post 11528269)
So Sigmund Solarus IS Direct Nic's main attorney ?? and that's his contact info ?

Sig is Direct Nic's CEO, top man. That's the number to get him. Alex posted it up earlier.

NoComments 12-14-2006 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Slick (Post 11528269)
So Sigmund Solarus IS Direct Nic's main attorney ?? and that's his contact info ?


does anybody believe that this idiot has an attorney?

I'm taking bets that he doesn't.

Pleasurepays 12-14-2006 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by dig420 (Post 11528221)
I would have thought that blowing me was against your born-again morality, since you're all in favor of anyone running a teen site having their life ruined and thrown in prison, where they can be brutalized beyond recognition. Pretty comical huh? Funny.

I bet you cry like a bitch when it's your turn.

i am all in favor of people pushing the boundaries in the most agressive way possible... BUT only when they are willing to accept responsibility for it. he isn't my "fellow webmaster" - we aren't "in it to the end". its not like we are all young kids landing on the beaches of France to fight Hitler or something. its not like anyone here is going to fly to seattle to stop me from slitting my wrists or something. most of the pricks here would send the razor blades in a package of 12, keep 5 and still sell them for double the price and then keep fucking rebilling my card for it, 12 months after i'm dead.

"teen site" and "models probably of legal age where everything possible is done to make them look younger" is hardly the same thing. and "gee, i never really thought about how young they looked" is a pretty stupid defense... and being caught trading with sites dealing in CP doesn't help. nor does it help that every site he is trading with is of the same nature... nor does the fact that he isn't compliant with 2257 regs by any stretch of the imagination and even made a statement to that effect on his 2257 statement page help.

personally, i am willing to chalk this one up to Darwinism and move on.

Webby 12-14-2006 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Winetalk (Post 11528282)
does anybody believe that this idiot has an attorney?

I'm taking bets that he doesn't.

It's getting more of a struggle - but, ya gotta try :winkwink:

Slick 12-14-2006 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Winetalk (Post 11528282)
does anybody believe that this idiot has an attorney?

I'm taking bets that he doesn't.

Dude, fuck you. I've been in this fucking business for a lot longer than you and I probably make more than you could ever imagine making doing this. Shut the fuck up.


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