why me? i am not jumping up and down, proclaiming what rights they have or don't have... you and others are.

if you know what rights they have... lets hear it. your contention is that they are breaking more laws than Al Capone.. should be an easy thing to prove if correct.

great news:
http://www.freespeechcoalition.com/F....asp?coid=1014

good luck slick, hope everything gets solved asap!

dude... you are saying they "have no right to do what they did"

you are stating it as fact.

if its fact.. then there is a law or body of law or even ICAAN regulations/agreements that specifically prohibits them from doing so. its in writing somewhere. otherwise, on what grounds can you factually state "they have no rights to do..."

being that the TOS of EVERY registrar gives them unlimited rights to the domain, i am guessing that you are completely wrong.

he doesn't know anything.. he's mikey's pal. He won't even say whose side he's on, he'll just yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap and never say anything, until you're nauseous from being in the same thread with him.

MY tos says I can sodomize pleasurepays at will. What time is good for you?

nigga. Read the statement from the FSC attorney, then stop your yapping.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

You did notice that nauseous pointless yapping? :winkwink:

All I know is expect to see domain name costs start going up from the lawsuits about to fly about.

http://www.goforlaw.com/Legal_Articl..._Liability.htm

Interesting little article.

how could you not? it's his trademark.

you hate Mike simply because he has always been honest about being conservative and has always bettered you in any political debate because you are terminally irrational.

that has nothing to do with his business and personal reputation... which no one is disputing.

further... Mike doesnt run DirectNIC you dumb turd. he is simply a partner and someone that people on this board recognize as being a part of DirectNIC. i seriously doubt he had anything to do with any decisions made before it came to this board.

finally, right now, with what i know at this moment, i agree with you for the most part... if they have no legal liability, then they shouldn't be meddling in someones business. however, there is also a very strong argument that if someone is dealing in CP, the quickest way to stop it is by shutting down the domain... and "reporting it to the FBI" definately doesn't result in immediate action. i would guess that in the vast majority of cases, it results in little to no action and in those few cases where something is done, its often after a lengthy investigation. so they made a business decision. Was it legal? i dont know. i havent seen ANYONE state conclusively why it isn't - i.e. specifically showing where/how/what federal privacy law is broken by simply making a request... or what information can and can't be lawfully shared.

its always funny that everyone has an opinion about "who has what rights" (rights which are defined somewhere in writing) and are so unwilling to get to the heart of the issue and start a discussion rooted in reality and fact and figure out what those rights are exactly, what is legal and illegal and why... when its just easier to babble on, mindlessly expressing irrational fears and anxiety, leaving facts behind.

You argue like a bitch.

I predict 15 pages

Why is that great news? That was yesterday.. today they shut his sites down..

at least we're babbling with an opinion and something to say. You're just babbling. I still have no idea what your point is, if you even have one. Neither does anyone else.

well that's because you're retarded. look up the page a little or do a search for FSC and 'lawyer'.

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and somewhere in there I think he said he agrees with me! lol!

you dont understand because you are simply incapable of understanding a world where its not "me against them". I am not against you.. i am not for Mike. i keep asking the real questions and no one can answer them.

everyone is soo sure about what they can and can't do..

its the "they can't do this" part that i am wondering about.

so far everyone seems quite certain that they have no right to do anything at all... yet the TOS of every registrar does in fact give them unlimited rights to the domain.

something doesn't add up there... wouldn't you agree?


asking for documents is illegal... yet no one can actually explain it or point out the law. if its that cut and dry, it should be pretty simple.. "federal statute xyz. section 1, title 10 states:........" - but apparently no one can find that either or even cares to.

DirectNIC escalated things today. sorry... i am just not willing to accept that they did it without legal grounds. they are not a bunch of 19-20yr old dot commers. these are people that have been around, understand the weight of their actions, understand the precedence being set and understand the potential negative impact that could have on their business. excuse me for being reasonable but "MikeAI is a Conservative Nazi" just doesn't seem like a good explanation.

all i have asked is "how do you know its illegal" or "how do you know they dont have that right" and all i get in return is remarks like "you're a conservative christian asshole"

what law was cited?

none.

thanks.

so far we have a group of attorneys who seem to firmly feel they are acting with in the law and ONE attorney/PR guy claiming they aren't.

a reasonable and intelligent question to ask is "who is right and why"

yappity yappity yappity blah blah blah

so on and so forth

Dig, I put Mr Douglas's opinion along with many other opinions of people who have no direct access to the materials at hand: He is speculating.

I think he has bigger things to worry about facing the feds over 2257 inspections (they ones he said wouldn't happen but did). Mr Douglas has not been at Directnic's offices, and he don't think he would be entirely aware of the circusmtances. In fact, I would even go out on a limb and say that he likely formed his opinion based on some of the grand exaggerations that have been put on in places like this (like Directnic attempting to do a 2257 inspection, Directnic asking for personal model information, Directnic acting as judge and jury).

I think you would find that, after some sober second thought and maybe with more documentation and information in front of him, that he might have a slightly different opinion.

Until he (and the rest of us) are better informed, it is all for nothing. What is done is done.

My beef bayonet has been on overdrive today

funny how wanting to discuss hard facts is the fastest way to kill a discussion on GFY.
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

If you're going to play cybersleuth, at least start by having a clue.

The full status for majorpervert.com is:

Domain Name: MAJORPERVERT.COM
Registrar: INTERCOSMOS MEDIA GROUP, INC. D/B/A DIRECTNIC.COM
Whois Server: whois.directnic.com
Referral URL: http://www.directnic.com
Name Server: NS1.ADVANCEDHOSTERS.COM
Name Server: NS2.ADVANCEDHOSTERS.COM
RRP Status: REGISTRAR-HOLD
Status: clientHold
Status: clientDeleteProhibited
Status: clientUpdateProhibited
Status: clientTransferProhibited
Updated Date: 14-Dec-2006
Creation Date: 06-Feb-2000
Expiration Date: 06-Feb-2008

Your tracert and ping gave you results because his host is still up. Only his domain was taken down. And your ability to visit the sites is likely because the changes hadn't propogated to your ISP's DNS servers yet.

ADVANCEDHOSTERS.COM

should have taking the site out first.

....If he had illegal content on his site which I don't think has been shown to be the case.

Anyone got an official response from ICANN yet ?
and are there any updates ?

Dude, it's 3AM Eastern time... I don't think any ICANN people are going to surface for a while, and likely the only people they would answer anything to (if they ever were inclined) would be the domain holder and the registrar of record.

I don't think that ICANN is coming to GFY to answer you questions, sorry.

I was waiting for you to show up in a minute.

I didn't asked ICANN to come to gfy however rest assure people are
communicating with them about the matter.
Anyway, you've been nothing but a DN kiss ass for the past two days
and sorry if I'm not gonna waste another day with your delusional ramblings.
Please fuck off already.

What.. are the folks at ICANN to good for the likes of GFY?

Agreed, was really in interesting article, hope it's ok i copy & paste the important parts. I think it's worth a read to understand it is PROPERTY to the Registrant.

I can't get into my head how some of you react towards Slick. I don't know Slick and i never met him but i do see his situation. Some of you are making statements like "how do you sleep at night". What's wrong with you people? Can't you get it into your brain that he uses sponsor provided content??? So infact you are saying that those sponsors like Alex & Jason, Fuck You Cash and Braincash use CP and passed that content on to Slick to use on his site(s)? Why are you all waiting in line to smash down a fellow webmaster? I don't get it, i really don't.

Maybe it is about time we got a reaction from the sponsors who provided the content in the first place.......

Should we start flaming at every webmaster with teen content on his site now? No we shouldn't! Fuck this, it dissapoints me how fellow webmaster stand in line to jump the saga waggon to fuck another webmaster. I myself don't do teen, not because it worries me, just because it's not my thing.

IF infact the content appears to be CP then they should put all who used it and provided it in the same room and set the building on fire, i agree. BUT shouldn't we wait it out BEFORE we start pointing a finger? Remember, if you are pointing your finger to someone, three fingers are still pointing towards yourself!

Put yourself in his shoes....... this ISN'T the situation you want to find yourself in when you wake up. Just calm down on Slick's ass, get of his back already.

If you noticed the trend nobody has anything with Slick, and everyone is against registrars policing the internet, besides some old farts that think they've got first to the internet and their piece of the pie its getting smaller everyday.
Just look how many mummies the DN drama dug up.

Point taken :thumbsup I just get to emotional sometimes :upsidedow

Our content is fully 2257 compliant. I have told Slick with respect to this matter we would provide him with any documentation he would need.

:thumbsup :thumbsup

Good to hear sponsors are stepping up in this situation

:thumbsup If Slick get all the documentation he needs he shouldn't have any problems.

Don't be stupid, TOS means shit if it goes against the law. You think you can put in TOS "if you buy my services I have the right to kill you" and then get away with murder?

DN screwed up and shot themselves in the foot, they've opened up for a lawsuit and lost the confidence of their customers (or part of them at least)

Exactly my thoughts too. When it comes to promos, new FHGs, new Sites or to recruit you to promote their programs, the have no problem message you all the day, make 1000's of posts and whatever not. But when it gets hot you can't find them. The very least thing i would have awaited is that the sponsors he is promoting and that are mentioned say something and make a clear statement that they have the ID's, that DN can contact them or something that helps solving and clear there problems that occured, but no, they are hidding somewhere (with some expections only).

Makes me really thinking if this is like a partnership should work?

So not only the webmasters has to deal with with authorities, hosts, registrars, complaining people and 100 other things, but doesn't get any support when it's needed?! So the webmaster has to defend the sponsors FHGs instead of the sponsor making a single post and/or for example showing proof that a given gallery is legit? Fine, if they hide it due the model privacy issue, than at least give webmasters access to the model ID's/releases or whatever that proofs a given model is legit in the webmasters members area so they can pull the info if needed like in the case here. I can't understand how it's ok to "spam" the webmasters daily with 1000's of FHGs and to beg to list them and than a sudden not giving any support?!!?

That really makes you re-think the way you are involved in this business as a webmaster/tgp owner.

I mean principally i thrust my sponsors, but seems that it is not enough to avoid jail or problems nowadays. So what can be done?
Fuck, so far i was really a supporter of privacy for the models, but hell, not on the cost that webmaster run into major problems. So why not attaching a blacked-out really privacy info from the model ID, but with clear age verification, photo and maybe ID number or whatever it needs to make it a valide Proof to each FHG you send the webmasters for listing?

Hell, i agree that the models should have privacy, but webmasters should also have a chance to be on the sure and legal side of the law and not be forced to operate in some kind of grey zone or today is a lucky day but what will be tomorrow way. If a model wants her full privacy, why is she doing porn movies which millions of people will view? All my domains have my original, full and correct whois info, that's it. I stand for what i'am doing. If i don't to have privacy info attached to adultdomains/adult business than i have to advertise amazon products, it's that easy.

There must be a way to protect the webmaters, so maybe some sponsors have some better ideas on what they are paln to do to protect/support/assist their partners and webmasters and to avoid such issues.

By the way, that's just a general thought and not related generally to slick/directnic/cp or whatever, so please spare me with direct related examples or whatever, but better think about possible solutions than just bitching.

If Slick gets all his documentation and a good lawyer, he'll be getting a nice big check from DirectNic. :winkwink:

400............

DirectNic does'nt have the authority to demand it.:2 cents:

We dont need no stinking badges!