Slick, the sad fact is that laws like 2257 are not innocent until proven guilty, but suspect until proven clean. The presumption of innocence isn't always a given, most people don't understand that.

If I was you, I would get to another registrar, register some domains, and get back to business while your lawyer gets to doing what lawyers do.

You are making the assumption that people will be reasonable, and not just jump to conclusions.

Sorry, but issues like this, even if not completely accurate, can cause a lot of damage.

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Crazy shit, glad its not me.
Hope it all works out for you.

yes, and as an example, you don't now if they also contact authorities who said "shut it down"... or that Slick's lawyer may have made unreasonable demands... or any one of a 101 other things. You don't know, I don't know.

I am disappointed for everyone involved how this is turning out, nobody comes out of this ahead.

Would somebody from Directnic please stand up.

This is fucking BullShit.

I am seeing a few of those sites working again from http://www.slicksnetwork.com/

Slick, buy some other domains and switch your trades over to the new ones
so you don't lose all income till this gets sorted.

I guess if this does get taken care of, I'll have to hire someone to check my trades on a regular basis, does anyone want a job ?? ha ha ha.

True, ppl will jump on the bandwagon, mabey see this thread and do batch transfers all day long, I can see that..

But there is more then meets the eye here..

Sites work fine here.

You think running porn sites which are confusingly similar to child pornography is the ONLY way to make a living in this world?

I have a big news for you:
it's NOT.

Get education, find the job, something millions of Americans do every year.

The only thing is that between those sites, we're talking HUNDREDS of trades, that'd take a while to get those all changed over. I might have to though if this doesn't get cleared up soon.

Err, no i mean the index page works fine here.

true some are up again

i would tend to agree... i would guess that there is clearly more going on that people realize. I doubt DN woke up a couple days ago and decided their new mission was to make history, scare the shit out of people and become the first private internet morality police. taking these steps is pretty serious. people should really wait for full details before making snap judgements.

The "let the Feds deal with it" is an interesting issue for sure. Thats not a simple thing. that means letting someone promote, sell, distribute CP for months or years while its being "dealt with" ... IF it ever gets investigated. I can see strong arguments that might not be a great way to go about it either. I'm sure you remember Lee Noga way back when... and her tirades against sextracker about the very issue of leaving CP sites up for months and months and months while they are "investigated".

So let's see, when the media gets a hold of this, they're going to ruin Slick's life forever because he's now been branded as a CHILD PORN PEDDLER, BY HIS REGISTRAR, not by the authorities. But the damage to his life will be completely destructive.

Beyond all the other damages that this whole situation is going to cause.

I admire you for deciding to reevaluate. CP or even insinuated cp is very serioius biz. People talk very highly of you and respect you. But I've just lately had several tgp guys tell me straight up, that the younger looking, underdeveloped type girls that look 13 DO draw more clicks. It's disturbing. Whether it's legal or not, it might be time to figure out how far one will go for that extra couple sales or those extra coupld hundred or thousand clicks.

Not worth it, obviously, the way things turned out. Good luck though and I hope others are paying close attention.

Ya know, I make more money in one month than I used to make all year at my old job.

A registrar shouldn't decide a life altering career change, or maybe that's me. :2 cents:

maybe they just shut them all down, and are going thru them and are unblocking the ones they feel aren't a problem.

They need solid proof that he did otherwise they're looking at a serious defamation of character lawsuit if they were to start telling people he's peddling cp. :2 cents:

amen to that!

thats because those are not regged with DN
he has a few domains with other registrars.

Which begs the question, if there really was a court order, wouldn't all the
domains go down ?

jesus christ this thread is moving too fast

Have you watched the news where CP is ever mentioned? There's no proof, they smear the hell out of the person on allegations.

Slick.. don't waste time here... nothing matters here.

Deal direct with your lawyer and respond to the DN communication. If your lawyer is still at the strategy stage - he needs a kick up the ass.

There are other obvious issues you obviously need to either address or clean up - strongly suggest you do that asap since there is a fair chance of this issue escalating to a point where you don't want to be.

There usually is, but it is what meets the eye that does the damage

And they end up getting sued to fuck and back...as long as the person in question has a good attorney of course. Some people just let it happen to them or are to poor to even bother with an attorney.

Good luck slick, you are going to need it

pretty obvious who directnic is seeding talking points to around here imho.

It can ruin a man.
Anyone here would take a serious hit if their 10 most important domains were shut down.

RRRED, I just want to add this: Any single smaller girl (say like Josie Junior) presented along and by herself isn't really an issue. However, a CJ site like this with a whole pile of these images together, on a domain like "horny teddy" or "gall 17" or "young teen pics" leaves the impression of something else. The only reason these CJs work is because people keep clicking and clicking hoping to find the CP... It is pretty sad.

Slick, good luck to you, I hope you find the light at the end of the tunnel.

That is 100% true. DN didn't just decide to hassle you one day, they have orders to do so. Get your Lawyed NOW and prepare for the feds. This isnt a matter of DN thinking somethings wrong with your sites, it's much higher than that.:2 cents:

who? I personally have had no contact with anyone from Directnic or Intercomsos for the longest of times.

fuck for me too :-/

Sued or not, you can't take allegations back, you can't take what people think of you back, you can't reverse the damage that this will do to slick for the rest of his life.

Hey Slick - Sorry to hear of your troubles. Check out Moniker. Give me a shout to discuss when the dust settles :thumbsup

THANKS

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~Bari
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explain what law supercedes the terms and conditions on their site that slick agreed to where he grants them the right to do exactly this.

otherwise.. you people should really shut the fuck up about "rights" and "illegal"