Breaking: Penthouse Acquires Danni.com - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

Penthouse_mike · 10-31-2006, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

Is this going to be like when Penthouse picked up Ibill?

Different Penthouse. That was Molina and his crew.
The current management at Penthouse had nothing to do with
the iBill fiasco

ladida · 10-31-2006, 05:39 PM

Danni is worth more then Jenna, on the internet value. Jenna however is a bigger brand, but i wouldn't think it would be that big of a difference. 3mill for danni is a steal.

Jace · 10-31-2006, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Penthouse_mike

Some webmasters like DHDrevEx because it gives them one check from many different programs, but I think Danni could use a more modern solution so it can give webmasters better tracking.

as much hate as I see on the boards about dhdrevx, I personally like it, not only can we check all the programs from one interface, but we also can track lots of other things other than just page hits

i can track my clicks from my site to the tour pages, i like that

i think you all should also buy dvdrevx and revamp that, hehe

Jace · 10-31-2006, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ladida

Danni is worth more then Jenna, on the internet value. Jenna however is a bigger brand, but i wouldn't think it would be that big of a difference. 3mill for danni is a steal.

unfortunately, danni is not worth NEAR what jenna is worth anymore

maybe 5-8 years ago, but not now

walk down the street and ask anyone who jenna is, they know

ask them also who danni ashe is, most don't anymore

danni left the porn biz a while ago BTW

Shap · 10-31-2006, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ladida

Danni is worth more then Jenna, on the internet value. Jenna however is a bigger brand, but i wouldn't think it would be that big of a difference. 3mill for danni is a steal.

How do you figure Danni is worth more than Jenna?

Overture Searches
Danni Ashe 32000 Searches
Jenna Jameson 500,000+ searches

I agree Penthouse got an absolute steal but to compare Danni and Jenna is silly. If you run the numbers Jenna had 23,000 to 35,000 members when she sold. If Danni was that size then it would have sold for much more.

Jenna is way bigger than Danni online and offline. Danni has been retired for 2 years and hasn't been in the news or anywhere for two years. The two women are in two completely different leagues.

Drake · 10-31-2006, 05:49 PM

big news

Wow, Shap was in the market for it too

heywood · 10-31-2006, 05:50 PM

3mil? what a smokin deal. I hope they dont corrupt it too much though.

DWB · 10-31-2006, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Penthouse_mike

Different Penthouse. That was Molina and his crew.
The current management at Penthouse had nothing to do with
the iBill fiasco

You mean someone picked up Penthouse after that?

I can't keep up with the madness!!! lol

But if it's a new crew, best of luck and good catch!

DeanCapture · 10-31-2006, 05:51 PM

Congrats Penthouse Mike

Shap · 10-31-2006, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike33

big news

Wow, Shap was in the market for it too

It's never pleasant to not acquire something we were in the market for. Danni had been on our radar for some time and we were pursuing a deal. Unfortunately Penthouse beat us to it and they got a killer deal done. Kudos to them on a great pickup!

tony286 · 10-31-2006, 06:01 PM

I thought penthouse was having money problems

jay23 · 10-31-2006, 06:17 PM

Playboy did get a good deal on Jenna. The public info says

"Playboy paid $7.7 million at closing, with additional payments of $1.6 million, $1.7 million, $2.3 million and $4.3 million required in 2007, 2008, 2009 and 2010"

I bet the future payments would have been tied into some performance matrix. Jenna is still active on having her name in the front (she was on news 2 days ago) so their is a brand while Dani has been out of site for 2 years

Jay

Penthouse_mike · 10-31-2006, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by shap

How do you figure Danni is worth more than Jenna?
I agree Penthouse got an absolute steal but to compare Danni and Jenna is silly. If you run the numbers Jenna had 23,000 to 35,000 members when she sold. If Danni was that size then it would have sold for much more.

I don't think the site was that big, I think part of the revenue was the production side.

Jenna is bigger than Danni Ashe in the public imagination now, but
PB often overpays so I think we got the better deal when all is said and done.
However only time will tell.

For now, we are focusing on updating the member experience so Danni.com is back on the cutting edge, the tours are converting better, and the place is firing on all eight cylinders.

Thanks everyone for your encouragement!

Mr-No · 10-31-2006, 06:42 PM

Congrats to Mike and to the Penthouse, this is IMHO great deal!

Shap · 10-31-2006, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Penthouse_mike

I don't think the site was that big, I think part of the revenue was the production side.

Jenna is bigger than Danni Ashe in the public imagination now, but
PB often overpays so I think we got the better deal when all is said and done.
However only time will tell.

For now, we are focusing on updating the member experience so Danni.com is back on the cutting edge, the tours are converting better, and the place is firing on all eight cylinders.

Thanks everyone for your encouragement!

Hmm you may be right. When i had run those numbers i hadn't factored in the production side. Good point

I think PB bought Jenna at her peak and you just picked up Danni at a low. Definitely a good time to pick it up. A few changes and you'll have it kicking ass in no time. Back in 99 and 2000 i used to do $10,000+ a month with danni's. I know alot of affiliates (myself included) are hoping to see the return of the amazing danni sales numbers

pigman · 10-31-2006, 07:09 PM

Could be a lot more.

ladida · 10-31-2006, 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shap

How do you figure Danni is worth more than Jenna?

Overture Searches
Danni Ashe 32000 Searches
Jenna Jameson 500,000+ searches

I agree Penthouse got an absolute steal but to compare Danni and Jenna is silly. If you run the numbers Jenna had 23,000 to 35,000 members when she sold. If Danni was that size then it would have sold for much more.

I'm sorry shap, you are missinformed :P Jenna had WAY less members. And even rounding it up with 12k member gap is huge. Even all the sites jenna pulled in had alot less then you think. Thought you had better sources

. I checked my numbers, i was initially missguided about what danni does, but compared to what jenna sold for, and what danni sold for, danni is a steal. And quite a bargain really (if 3 mill is ever a "bargain").

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Jenna is way bigger than Danni online and offline. Danni has been retired for 2 years and hasn't been in the news or anywhere for two years. The two women are in two completely different leagues.

Not so much difference online. As i state again, i retract the statement that danni is bigger online, and jenna is definatelly a bigger name offline, but online, they're at par in some instances. Thought danni would go for way higher, considering how much jenna sold.
Gw penthouse

CaptainHowdy · 10-31-2006, 07:10 PM

Woah, that's a sweet deal

!!

Shap · 10-31-2006, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ladida

I'm sorry shap, you are missinformed :P Jenna had WAY less members. And even rounding it up with 12k member gap is huge. Even all the sites jenna pulled in had alot less then you think. Thought you had better sources

. I checked my numbers, i was initially missguided about what danni does, but compared to what jenna sold for, and what danni sold for, danni is a steal. And quite a bargain really (if 3 mill is ever a "bargain").

Not so much difference online. As i state again, i retract the statement that danni is bigger online, and jenna is definatelly a bigger name offline, but online, they're at par in some instances. Thought danni would go for way higher, considering how much jenna sold.
Gw penthouse

My numbers may have been off because i failed to factor in the revenue generated by the production company. I still think Jenna is considerably bigger than Danni right now. Danni at her peak was huge but that was 5 years ago. Danni's popularity was 100% PR related. She retired the PR died and the idiots moved in to run the show. As a result their their traffic sources dried up. My numbers for Jenna were off but she still is much bigger. Is she 6 times bigger? I don't think so. But as was stated pb likes to overpay

ladida · 10-31-2006, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by shap

My numbers for Jenna were off but she still is much bigger. Is she 6 times bigger? I don't think so. But as was stated pb likes to overpay

Well damnit, if only they asked me. They could have saved a bundle, and i would only take 50% of the saved money.

Shap · 10-31-2006, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ladida

Well damnit, if only they asked me. They could have saved a bundle, and i would only take 50% of the saved money.

GTS Mark · 10-31-2006, 07:35 PM

Wow congrats to Penthouse on a great pickup!

3 mil seems like a great deal for such a well known and branded internet property.

DH

latinasojourn · 10-31-2006, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutt

like everybody else i'm surprised 3M is all they got for it. cashing out of this business is really tough. Lensman is the only one I'm aware of who did it getting something close to full value.

but who knows - i dont know what traffic sources they own and how big their recurring database is - it was a legendary site at one time but i think it's lost alot of that luster.

not surprised at the price.

goes to show the changing landscape of online erotica.

a website named after a figurehead buxom model gets long in the tooth as the figurehead model ages.

there is a shelf life for female beauty.

they sold at the right time and got a healthy figure for it.

this ain't 1997 anymore.

one of the biggest money makers in '97 was janey.com

i'm told she made her big coin selling to panty sniffers. not much market for sniffing grandma's crotch.

it's all about the wrinkles.

DaddyHalbucks · 10-31-2006, 08:38 PM

Congrats to Penthouse!

TheDoc · 10-31-2006, 08:45 PM

Hey Shap…
Reading up here, I didn't know Danny retired, that kind of fills in a huge gap. Still a good buy for the brand though, lots can be done as long as doesn’t get overdone.

I think 7.7 for the Jenna brand and site is a good deal too, just don’t think she had anywhere close to 25k members.

--

Penthouse, DRM doesn’t improve retention, that’s a myth. You can take the same content, re-stamp it, open two different sites, update a new video/photo set a week, one with DRM and one without, they will retain the same. DRM just costs you more time, money, and headaches. If you plan on setting up PPM billing on videos then that’s a different story.

Shap · 10-31-2006, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

Hey Shap?
Reading up here, I didn't know Danny retired, that kind of fills in a huge gap. Still a good buy for the brand though, lots can be done as long as doesn?t get overdone.

I think 7.7 for the Jenna brand and site is a good deal too, just don?t think she had anywhere close to 25k members.

--

Penthouse, DRM doesn?t improve retention, that?s a myth. You can take the same content, re-stamp it, open two different sites, update a new video/photo set a week, one with DRM and one without, they will retain the same. DRM just costs you more time, money, and headaches. If you plan on setting up PPM billing on videos then that?s a different story.

I thought the Jenna deal worked out to 18mil.

I based my 25k members on the report last year that they were doing 12mil a year online.

ForteCash · 10-31-2006, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by MJ_AVN

And all the rest of it...

BOCA RATON, Fla. - AVNOnline.com has learned that Penthouse Media Group has acquired Danni.com and all of the company?s associated properties for $3 million in cash and stock options.

http://www.avnonline.com/index.php?P...tent_ID=277914

So cheap? wtf?? maybe i should be making some buyouts..

TheDoc · 10-31-2006, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by shap

I thought the Jenna deal worked out to 18mil.

I based my 25k members on the report last year that they were doing 12mil a year online.

Wow, nice if they end up with 18 mill out of that deal, even more so if they made 12m a year and still get 18m out of the deal.. Nice little bonus.

Penthouse_mike · 10-31-2006, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

Penthouse, DRM doesn?t improve retention, that?s a myth. You can take the same content, re-stamp it, open two different sites, update a new video/photo set a week, one with DRM and one without, they will retain the same. DRM just costs you more time, money, and headaches. If you plan on setting up PPM billing on videos then that?s a different story.

Thanks for your post TheDoc but maybe I wasn't clear. We are removing DRM from the Danni members area. One of the biggest customer complaints at Danni.com is problems with the video delivery and DRM because they really make you jump thru hoops to watch downloaded videos. I heard this as a complaint from webmasters esp review sites; so I used it as an example of one of the many things we are in the process of changing at Danni.com.

Thanks tho.

Penthouse_mike · 10-31-2006, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

Wow, nice if they end up with 18 mill out of that deal, even more so if they made 12m a year and still get 18m out of the deal.. Nice little bonus.

The question is not their revenue, it is their net.
If it was low or zero, the deal was a stinker even if CJ
had 200,000 members.

Webby · 10-31-2006, 09:56 PM

So Molina/Galanis are allegedly out and Bell is the flavor of the day - time will tell. That is one fucked corp and has been for decades.

datatank · 10-31-2006, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

Hey Shap?
Reading up here, I didn't know Danny retired, that kind of fills in a huge gap. Still a good buy for the brand though, lots can be done as long as doesn?t get overdone.

I think 7.7 for the Jenna brand and site is a good deal too, just don?t think she had anywhere close to 25k members.

--

Penthouse, DRM doesn?t improve retention, that?s a myth. You can take the same content, re-stamp it, open two different sites, update a new video/photo set a week, one with DRM and one without, they will retain the same. DRM just costs you more time, money, and headaches. If you plan on setting up PPM billing on videos then that?s a different story.

He said he was REMOVING the Drm

Kimo · 10-31-2006, 11:11 PM

wow thats awesome, go penthouse!

Penthouse_mike · 10-31-2006, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Webby

So Molina/Galanis are allegedly out and Bell is the flavor of the day - time will tell. That is one fucked corp and has been for decades.

Guccione did some crazy things like publish alien autopsy pictures and invest in nuclear fusion back in the day, but I think that is just part of the wild days of porn. If most people went from zero to half a billion dollars in assets, they would do some crazy stuff too.

venus · 10-31-2006, 11:44 PM

LOL... you should refer back to your previous post about perception.... everyone obviously thought the site was worth more, she obviously saved enough money... going right back to that same loop

nothing is ever what it seems...or what people speculate it as being...

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Originally Posted by shap

I should add I'm referring to what Danni Ashe is worth in this deal. She had obviously saved up enough to retire 2 years ago

Webby · 11-01-2006, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Penthouse_mike

Guccione did some crazy things like publish alien autopsy pictures and invest in nuclear fusion back in the day, but I think that is just part of the wild days of porn. If most people went from zero to half a billion dollars in assets, they would do some crazy stuff too.

Well.. alien autopsies can sell covers

Know someone who made millions selling utter crap fantasy fiction as "news".

But remember em well - you remember the Caligula movie and the casino adventures?

We used to eat in what was supposed to be a fully operational casino, but it never had a license (duh!) - so the place was empty apart from the dining area and hardly a customer in sight. Despite that, I liked Bob and Kathy a lot tho never seem em for many years now.

It was disappointing to see some of these plans - you kinda new they were not going anywhere. The last one I heard of was a proposed mag in the Balkans or somewhere - not a hope in hell, tho this was supposed to be the savior. Kinda painful watching the empire slowly stagnate and sink over a few decades.

Never really kept up with the story of Molina et al - who knows, it may have a better chance of earning some dollars if there is commercial ability at the top.

TreasureBucks · 11-01-2006, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Penthouse_mike

Different Penthouse. That was Molina and his crew.
The current management at Penthouse had nothing to do with
the iBill fiasco

ibill is one of your affiliates now.

http://www.ibill.com
http://www.gspot-news.com

http://www.gspot-news.com/index.php?...sk=click&bid=7

nats id - Mzg4OjM6MQ,0,0,0,

Not saying you know about it, just thought you would like to though.

gooddomains · 11-01-2006, 02:46 AM

Will Ibill be the processor ?

edgeprod · 11-01-2006, 03:32 AM

Wow, sucks for Penthouse, sorry to hear that.

KingK7 · 11-01-2006, 03:57 AM

Wow, 3 mill sounds low at first, but I guess since Danni left and the company was going to shit, as well as the stock options they got, it might have been ok...

Depends how much stock options they got as well I guess...

edgeprod · 11-01-2006, 04:07 AM

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Originally Posted by KingK7

I guess since Danni left and the company was going to shit

Penthouse_mike · 11-01-2006, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by TreasureBucks

ibill is one of your affiliates now.

http://www.ibill.com
http://www.gspot-news.com

http://www.gspot-news.com/index.php?...sk=click&bid=7

nats id - Mzg4OjM6MQ,0,0,0,

Not saying you know about it, just thought you would like to though.

Thank you.
Reseller banned.

Penthouse_mike · 11-01-2006, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by gooddomains

Will Ibill be the processor ?

No. They owed us money too. We haven't used them since Marc Bell took over.

We use our own merchant account

scoreman · 11-01-2006, 07:48 AM

It hasnt really been mentioned but I guess the SEC disclosures will list the cash outlay vs the stock option value in the 3 Million number. If only a portion of the $3M is in actual cash, then Penthouse really got this on the cheap. Like Shap pointed out, Danni.com is really a distressed property right but if they got it without having to put up alot of cash, the downside to this deal is not as low as the highside if they do a turnaround. I have followed Danni.com probably closer than the average bear here since our company has history with them, and for the longest time have looked to be hurting.

Congrats to Penthouse on the pickup. You guys work magic there as well as your print title, you should be crowned the turnaround artists of Adult.

vod · 11-01-2006, 09:56 AM

Mike, Congrats to you and Penthouse for the purchase of Danni.com

Penthouse is starting out like a 'new Internet powerhouse' with Jill Kelly now Danni... what's next XonDemand.com ... hehe..

I hear from Hoovers online that Penthouse Media Group (PMGI) isn't in the hotel business, but it does allow pets into its penthouse.

Mike, hit me up when you get a minute... I sent over the Jill Kelly details last wk, I will followup with you on danni also now, I love Jill Kelly and Danni 's it's great content ; we will get you more exposure on our network for both ;

TheDoc · 11-01-2006, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Penthouse_mike

Thanks for your post TheDoc but maybe I wasn't clear. We are removing DRM from the Danni members area. One of the biggest customer complaints at Danni.com is problems with the video delivery and DRM because they really make you jump thru hoops to watch downloaded videos. I heard this as a complaint from webmasters esp review sites; so I used it as an example of one of the many things we are in the process of changing at Danni.com.

Thanks tho.

Ahh my bad, Good move then!

10-31-2006, 05:39 PM	#52
ladida Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 2,167	Danni is worth more then Jenna, on the internet value. Jenna however is a bigger brand, but i wouldn't think it would be that big of a difference. 3mill for danni is a steal. __________________ agentGFY at gmail.com

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10-31-2006, 07:10 PM	#68
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10-31-2006, 05:49 PM	#56
Drake Hello world! Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 12,508	big news Wow, Shap was in the market for it too

10-31-2006, 05:50 PM	#57
heywood So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Wilsonville, Oregon Posts: 468	3mil? what a smokin deal. I hope they dont corrupt it too much though.

10-31-2006, 06:01 PM	#61
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	I thought penthouse was having money problems

10-31-2006, 06:17 PM	#62
jay23 Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 1,444	Playboy did get a good deal on Jenna. The public info says "Playboy paid $7.7 million at closing, with additional payments of $1.6 million, $1.7 million, $2.3 million and $4.3 million required in 2007, 2008, 2009 and 2010" I bet the future payments would have been tied into some performance matrix. Jenna is still active on having her name in the front (she was on news 2 days ago) so their is a brand while Dani has been out of site for 2 years Jay

10-31-2006, 07:09 PM	#66
pigman Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 760	Could be a lot more.

10-31-2006, 07:35 PM	#72
GTS Mark Vrume Mark Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 20,912	Wow congrats to Penthouse on a great pickup! 3 mil seems like a great deal for such a well known and branded internet property. DH

10-31-2006, 08:45 PM	#75
TheDoc Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Currently Incognito Posts: 13,827	Hey Shap… Reading up here, I didn't know Danny retired, that kind of fills in a huge gap. Still a good buy for the brand though, lots can be done as long as doesn’t get overdone. I think 7.7 for the Jenna brand and site is a good deal too, just don’t think she had anywhere close to 25k members. -- Penthouse, DRM doesn’t improve retention, that’s a myth. You can take the same content, re-stamp it, open two different sites, update a new video/photo set a week, one with DRM and one without, they will retain the same. DRM just costs you more time, money, and headaches. If you plan on setting up PPM billing on videos then that’s a different story. __________________ ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825 It's all disambiguation

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10-31-2006, 11:11 PM	#83
Kimo ... Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Maryland ICQ:87038677 Posts: 11,542	wow thats awesome, go penthouse! __________________ ...

11-01-2006, 02:46 AM	#88
gooddomains Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Netherlands Posts: 10,127	Will Ibill be the processor ?

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edgeprod Permanently Gone Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 10,019	Wow, sucks for Penthouse, sorry to hear that.

11-01-2006, 03:57 AM	#90
KingK7 Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 6,372	Wow, 3 mill sounds low at first, but I guess since Danni left and the company was going to shit, as well as the stock options they got, it might have been ok... Depends how much stock options they got as well I guess...

11-01-2006, 07:48 AM	#94
scoreman Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Miami, Florida Posts: 1,491	It hasnt really been mentioned but I guess the SEC disclosures will list the cash outlay vs the stock option value in the 3 Million number. If only a portion of the $3M is in actual cash, then Penthouse really got this on the cheap. Like Shap pointed out, Danni.com is really a distressed property right but if they got it without having to put up alot of cash, the downside to this deal is not as low as the highside if they do a turnaround. I have followed Danni.com probably closer than the average bear here since our company has history with them, and for the longest time have looked to be hurting. Congrats to Penthouse on the pickup. You guys work magic there as well as your print title, you should be crowned the turnaround artists of Adult. __________________

11-01-2006, 09:56 AM	#95
vod Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 3,510	Mike, Congrats to you and Penthouse for the purchase of Danni.com Penthouse is starting out like a 'new Internet powerhouse' with Jill Kelly now Danni... what's next XonDemand.com ... hehe.. I hear from Hoovers online that Penthouse Media Group (PMGI) isn't in the hotel business, but it does allow pets into its penthouse. Mike, hit me up when you get a minute... I sent over the Jill Kelly details last wk, I will followup with you on danni also now, I love Jill Kelly and Danni 's it's great content ; we will get you more exposure on our network for both ; __________________ Adult Merchant Account Last edited by vod; 11-01-2006 at 09:57 AM.. Reason: typo