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Old 10-10-2006, 10:37 AM   #1
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Sorry HoDough but I got to GO!

It's not "really" your fault, but a little calculation about the assininity of the general public would have helped.

I just got the fucking 3rd degree to the max trying to deposit your check.
Of course the "BITCH" at the bank is to fault but what set her bullshit into motion was the logo image on the check.

She paraded back and forth behind the counter speaking to two differrent managers, with her pregnant bare-foot ass! And took 15 minutes before she even began to tell me what the probem was.

"I'm not familiar with this check" was her reply. As if the bitch would be familiar with every check that came through the bank. Of course not!
What she was really saying is "What the fuck is this...this can't be a real check".

But then again, she's got a right to think that because a check is a financial instrument and not a billboard for promotion. A check should represent professionalism so that it is trusted. It shouldn't look like some shit some kid drew up on his computer. The guy on the check dressed like a bandit has got to have a subliminal effect on someone screening for crime!!
I mean, how stupid would you feel is you cashed a bad check that had a picture of a fucking crook on it? Co-workers are going to be like "damn, idiot, didn't you look at the fucking thing?"

I understand that you are proud of your logo but you need to consider where it is appropriate to display it.

The money was not worth the aneurysm I got while watching this bitch make a monkey out of herself.

Conclusion: Why do many webmasters only use sponsors who don't do their own billing? Because they can't trust people to do what's "professional".

And what you're thinking is correct. It shouldn't matter if it is "professional".
And I agree, but it does matter because I don't live in a vacum and I have to get passed all the dumb fucks out there to survive.



PS: Before some moron suggest it; "Fuck epassporte, my account didn't work for months and they lost the money I deposited".
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Old 10-10-2006, 10:41 AM   #2
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yeah that logo on their check is a real bitch, i always deposit mine with 15 other checks so they dont really pay that much attention
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I thought the same thing.
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Old 10-10-2006, 10:48 AM   #6
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I dropped hodough when they dropped ccbill for nats.. and now i'm glad i did
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got a scan of how the check looks like
i am really curious
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Old 10-10-2006, 10:54 AM   #8
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I'm curious to what it looks like as well.
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Old 10-10-2006, 10:56 AM   #9
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Old 10-10-2006, 10:58 AM   #10
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I dropped hodough when they dropped ccbill for nats.. and now i'm glad i did
Programs don't DROP ccbill for nats, they get NATS and KEEP ccbill, and they add more billers to the mix to maximize.. awww fuck it!
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Old 10-10-2006, 11:00 AM   #11
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Programs don't DROP ccbill for nats, they get NATS and KEEP ccbill, and they add more billers to the mix to maximize.. awww fuck it!
You know what I mean... And when i contacted them for a dump of ccbill links they said I've have to sign up with NATS and use those.. well i don't like nats plain and simple.
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Old 10-10-2006, 11:05 AM   #12
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I'm curious to what it looks like as well.

It's the same logo that at the end of each video trailer.

The video trailers are fucking annoying also with the stupid "Let's get it on" at the end every single time.
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You know what I mean... And when i contacted them for a dump of ccbill links they said I've have to sign up with NATS and use those.. well i don't like nats plain and simple.
dont like NATS..plan on having fun while being all alone soon..;-)
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Old 10-10-2006, 12:23 PM   #15
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dont like NATS..plan on having fun while being all alone soon..;-)
You're wrong about that.

You should count on being alone with stale websites to promote since new program owners are going to be trusted more with 3rd party billing.

Anyone just starting up with no reputation and doing their own billing can pretty much kiss my ass. I'm not giving them my SSN etc...
I'll give it to CCBill instead.

The problem with nats is it tries to do too fucking much.
Many of it's features like getting link codes create more headaches for affiliates than it can solves; but sposnors go "cool we like that".
They should try using the shit as an affiliate and their opinion would change.

I think the biggest factor in the downfall of ARS(Adult revenue service) was making their program more and more sophisticated. It got to where you couldn't even download the stats page on dialup. They just had to give you "every option possible" to view stats to where I gave up trying to view any fucking thing. They were one of the biggest programs ever!
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The guy on the check dressed like a bandit
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Old 10-10-2006, 01:22 PM   #17
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I've never had a problem cashing their checks. Must be the podunk town you live in, and your disorderly persona that caused the issue.
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never had a problem cashing thier checks either... then again bank tellers in southern california probly arnt too phased by smut checks
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I could be wrong but I heard HoDough is going away. Relaunching under a new name with a better backend.. But then again what do I know?
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Nver had a problem with my bank and HoDough checks, but everyone at my bank knows what I do becuase when they ask I tell them, i have no reason to lie
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interracialtoons, that story was amusing and awful at the same time. I feel your pain, and not to spam, our checks come from "Island Media Group" so there are no issues such as this. No "bandits" on the checks

Hopefully someone from HoDough with read this and take heed.
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Old 10-10-2006, 01:47 PM   #22
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I've never had a problem cashing their checks. Must be the podunk town you live in, and your disorderly persona that caused the issue.
Then again it could be a dumb bitch over-reacting to a stupid fucking logo like I said. But I'm sure you know which it was since not being there at all expands you psychic ability to analyse shit you have no clue about and gives you the complete story.
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Old 10-10-2006, 01:54 PM   #23
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Then again it could be a dumb bitch over-reacting to a stupid fucking logo like I said. But I'm sure you know which it was since not being there at all expands you psychic ability to analyse shit you have no clue about and gives you the complete story.
I think you need a tissue, you fucking cry baby. If you don't like the checks you get (I doubt you get many), fuck off and go back to Burger King. You seem to have it out for HoDough to begin with, because you frequently complain about them... what's the matter? Did your traffic suck balls and you didn't make money with them? Their shit converts like crazy, so if you can't make bank with them... you REALLY need to go dig up that paper hat of yours.

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So, to sum it up, you don't want to use Hodough, because you had to wait 15 minutes to cash a check. WOW dude, you are hopeless. I'm guessing you were desperate to get that $20.00 check cashed, so you can buy more tissues. What a fucking knob.

Hodough is a stand up company. Fuck off you whining cunt.
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Nver had a problem with my bank and HoDough checks, but everyone at my bank knows what I do becuase when they ask I tell them, i have no reason to lie

The bank doesn't give a shit about what I do.
The do give a shit about cashing a check that looks fake.

Quit trying to deflect the issue. As soon as I saw the check I was like "WTF is this". I was not surprised about the bank doing the same thing.
It mostly pissed me off because the teller just walked away for 15 mins without saying something like "excuse me, I need to verify this check with my manager". Simple enough for me; but maybe she wanted to hold my ID and not let me know so I coudn't run before she called the cops.
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I've never had a problem cashing their checks. Must be the podunk town you live in, and your disorderly persona that caused the issue.
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I think you need a tissue, you fucking cry baby. If you don't like the checks you get (I doubt you get many), fuck off and go back to Burger King. You seem to have it out for HoDough to begin with, because you frequently complain about them... what's the matter? Did your traffic suck balls and you didn't make money with them? Their shit converts like crazy, so if you can't make bank with them... you REALLY need to go dig up that paper hat of yours.

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So, to sum it up, you don't want to use Hodough, because you had to wait 15 minutes to cash a check. WOW dude, you are hopeless. I'm guessing you were desperate to get that $20.00 check cashed, so you can buy more tissues. What a fucking knob.

Hodough is a stand up company. Fuck off you whining cunt.

Why don't you pull that big Hodough cock out of your mouth so I can hear what you are fucking whining about like a bitch assed cunt in my thread.

Use my tissue to wipe the blood-shit off your ass cheek when Hodough pulls out you brown nosing cum-stain of a faggot.

You probably own Hodough with their one employee posting under 5 fucking nicks.


And fuck no I don't want to wait 15 mins for a 30 second transaction just for fucking Hodough. I got other shit to do. But maybe you need to wait 15 mins since you aint selling shit else except room up your nostril for a stray black cock.
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It's not "really" your fault, but a little calculation about the assininity of the general public would have helped.

I just got the fucking 3rd degree to the max trying to deposit your check.
Of course the "BITCH" at the bank is to fault but what set her bullshit into motion was the logo image on the check.

She paraded back and forth behind the counter speaking to two differrent managers, with her pregnant bare-foot ass! And took 15 minutes before she even began to tell me what the probem was.

"I'm not familiar with this check" was her reply. As if the bitch would be familiar with every check that came through the bank. Of course not!
What she was really saying is "What the fuck is this...this can't be a real check".

But then again, she's got a right to think that because a check is a financial instrument and not a billboard for promotion. A check should represent professionalism so that it is trusted. It shouldn't look like some shit some kid drew up on his computer. The guy on the check dressed like a bandit has got to have a subliminal effect on someone screening for crime!!
I mean, how stupid would you feel is you cashed a bad check that had a picture of a fucking crook on it? Co-workers are going to be like "damn, idiot, didn't you look at the fucking thing?"

I understand that you are proud of your logo but you need to consider where it is appropriate to display it.

The money was not worth the aneurysm I got while watching this bitch make a monkey out of herself.

Conclusion: Why do many webmasters only use sponsors who don't do their own billing? Because they can't trust people to do what's "professional".

And what you're thinking is correct. It shouldn't matter if it is "professional".
And I agree, but it does matter because I don't live in a vacum and I have to get passed all the dumb fucks out there to survive.



PS: Before some moron suggest it; "Fuck epassporte, my account didn't work for months and they lost the money I deposited".
I'm sorry to hear this happened to you, and for the delay in reply, we are currently in the process of opening 5 new sites, and building some new features for webmasters. You sent some traffic, we sent you a check, you cashed the check, the check cleared. This is the first time we've ever had our company logo become such a major issue for someone, and based on your past few weeks of posts targeting our program, unfortunately, it seems as though we are no longer able to satisfy your needs as a reseller.

I went ahead and suspended your account, so this check cashing issue doesn't happen to you in the future.

May all of your endeavors be profitable.

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what do you expect from a company that has hired rats as employees?

send it to me, I'll cash it for 10%
I'm a rat? Care to elaborate?
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Doesn't really solve the problem, but it's an amusing solution to watch ;)
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Doesn't really solve the problem, but it's an amusing solution to watch ;)

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sounds like you're pissed over his totally legit complaint. some of us just don't want to deal with the bullshit of non industry people giving us a hard time over things such as adult words on checks or questionable logos. i think suspending his account was an emotional unprofessional reaction.
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sounds like you're pissed over his totally legit complaint. some of us just don't want to deal with the bullshit of non industry people giving us a hard time over things such as adult words on checks or questionable logos. i think suspending his account was an emotional unprofessional reaction.
I'm have no feelings about this whatsoever. This decision was his, not ours, as per the thread title "Sorry HoDough but I got to GO", and his recent posts regarding his issues with our program's operations. He has the option to continue if he likes, however, I don't see the point in it. It's plainly obvious that he isn't happy with the program for whatever his reasons are, so I bid him a fond farewell.

I agree, the logo isn't necessary, but it is our brand and it isn't exactly "explicit", it's a cartoon of some 1940's characters as shown below:


We are not the only company who does this. Even Playboy issues some of it's checks with "Playboy Enterprises" printed on them:


It's a fact of life, that if you work in porn... you are going to get snears now and again for it. The money is good, the checks are valid. I don't really see the issue here aside from the occasional delay.

Should you promote programs that print their logos on the check? That's up to you. Should the program change it's entire system if you don't like it? I don't think so.

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I don't recall him asking you to suspend his account... pretty unprofessional for you to do that without even consulting him about it first.

ps. This is a dumb thread to start with, theres nothing wrong with the logo... no need to slander a company because some bitch at the bank gave you a hard time. Chances are you must be new with that bank or for some reason they don't trust you.
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sounds like you're pissed over his totally legit complaint. some of us just don't want to deal with the bullshit of non industry people giving us a hard time over things such as adult words on checks or questionable logos. i think suspending his account was an emotional unprofessional reaction.
Shows his lack of experience in the biz also. Most affiliates that complain and drop a sponsor will untimately try them again in time if things appear to have changed.

Further he doesn't realize that I signed a "contract" when I signed up as an affiliate and I could sue him for canceling the account without just cause.
Complaining about the way the logo looks is not slander or criminal and it's really something to laugh about(after you change it).


The fact that he can't take a hit to the chin for the lack of class in the paycheck is an indication that he will probably not be in this biz for very long.

Program owners who talk shit to affiliates end up with dead programs.
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Is he complaining about getting paid...? Perhaps an e-mail to the program b4 posting would be the right thing to do - just my 2 cents.
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We need a picture of their checks over here....
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Old 10-10-2006, 05:24 PM   #39
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Yeah, I don't know if you should of just closed his account unless he asked you too privately and we don't know about that.. but damn

If I got a check with anything porn related on the acutal check (not the part you rip off and keep, stub or whatever) I'd be pissed off too
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Old 10-10-2006, 05:25 PM   #40
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I went ahead and suspended your account, so this check cashing issue doesn't happen to you in the future.
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Gee, I almost wish I was upset.

You know, you can get your merchant account suspended by affilates complaining about you and your handling of biz. Suspending an affiliate account without just cause is a sueable act. Saying your logo sucks will not hold up in court as just cause. Those webmaster sign up forms are agreements that are binding. You better learn that before you suspend the wrong motherfucker's account. If I had rebills comming(used per signup) it wouldn't be very much of a stretch to charge you with theft of services for failing to pay me because I hate your logo on my check.

Your logo is too trashy for a paycheck...grow the fuck up!

You should be adult enough to count the number of affiliates in this post that aggree with me about the logo on the check.

Of course it would have been professional to say:
"Unfortunately we cannot change the logo at this time; we will consider your complaint and try to accomidate all our affiliates in all areas of promotion and payment. We appreciate your traffic and hope you continue to promote one of the hottest sponsors around...Hodough!"

You'd be suprised at how simple stuff like that allows you to continue without giving a shit about affiliate complaints and keep their traffic too.

BTW: I probably would never have even posted this if Hodough answered email or had a support link in the webmaster area that didn't lead to a blank page.
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Old 10-10-2006, 05:27 PM   #41
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It's not "really" your fault, but a little calculation about the assininity of the general public would have helped.

I just got the fucking 3rd degree to the max trying to deposit your check.
Of course the "BITCH" at the bank is to fault but what set her bullshit into motion was the logo image on the check.

She paraded back and forth behind the counter speaking to two differrent managers, with her pregnant bare-foot ass! And took 15 minutes before she even began to tell me what the probem was.

"I'm not familiar with this check" was her reply. As if the bitch would be familiar with every check that came through the bank. Of course not!
What she was really saying is "What the fuck is this...this can't be a real check".

But then again, she's got a right to think that because a check is a financial instrument and not a billboard for promotion. A check should represent professionalism so that it is trusted. It shouldn't look like some shit some kid drew up on his computer. The guy on the check dressed like a bandit has got to have a subliminal effect on someone screening for crime!!
I mean, how stupid would you feel is you cashed a bad check that had a picture of a fucking crook on it? Co-workers are going to be like "damn, idiot, didn't you look at the fucking thing?"

I understand that you are proud of your logo but you need to consider where it is appropriate to display it.

The money was not worth the aneurysm I got while watching this bitch make a monkey out of herself.

Conclusion: Why do many webmasters only use sponsors who don't do their own billing? Because they can't trust people to do what's "professional".

And what you're thinking is correct. It shouldn't matter if it is "professional".
And I agree, but it does matter because I don't live in a vacum and I have to get passed all the dumb fucks out there to survive.



PS: Before some moron suggest it; "Fuck epassporte, my account didn't work for months and they lost the money I deposited".



You mental case!
Make the MONEY CHANGERS DO THEIR FUCKING JOB next time!
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Old 10-10-2006, 05:32 PM   #42
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Is he complaining about getting paid...? Perhaps an e-mail to the program b4 posting would be the right thing to do - just my 2 cents.
Did email about the check with no reply. So here's my 3 cents to go with your 2 cents and now you got a fucking nickle.

Why didn't you email me and ask if I'd emailed them before you posted that I didn't email them.
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Old 10-10-2006, 05:35 PM   #43
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Interracialtoons: You're dumb.
Grow a set and make the bank serve you and be quiet.
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Old 10-10-2006, 05:36 PM   #44
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if you cant deal with it... dont promote them. as simple as that.. we have been getting their checks since they launched and we have never had any problems.
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Old 10-10-2006, 05:44 PM   #45
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OMFG! Is this thread still going on??? LOL... This is totally rediculous. Affiliate programs are not BOUND to take your fucking traffic you chode! They can stop doing business with you at any time. They can decide who they do business with and who not to, just as you can. Good Lawdy we have a ripe one!

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Old 10-10-2006, 05:48 PM   #46
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I'd REALLY like to see this "contract" you "signed" that binds them to you. Can you scan it and validate some of your rediculous claims?
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Old 10-10-2006, 05:51 PM   #47
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Printing a logo or porn oriented name on a check shows a lack of class and understanding by the issuer. PERIOD.

The depositor has a right to privacy about what he/she does for a living.

The depositor needs to develop a trustworthy relationship with the conservative management in most lending institutions. Future loans, credit lines, etc, are based on the banks perception of the individual as well as his financial history.

Anyone thinking otherwise is spending to much time on the net, not in the real world.
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Old 10-10-2006, 05:57 PM   #48
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I'm have no feelings about this whatsoever. This decision was his, not ours, as per the thread title "Sorry HoDough but I got to GO", and his recent posts regarding his issues with our program's operations. He has the option to continue if he likes, however, I don't see the point in it. It's plainly obvious that he isn't happy with the program for whatever his reasons are, so I bid him a fond farewell.

I agree, the logo isn't necessary, but it is our brand and it isn't exactly "explicit", it's a cartoon of some 1940's characters as shown below:


We are not the only company who does this. Even Playboy issues some of it's checks with "Playboy Enterprises" printed on them:


It's a fact of life, that if you work in porn... you are going to get snears now and again for it. The money is good, the checks are valid. I don't really see the issue here aside from the occasional delay.

Should you promote programs that print their logos on the check? That's up to you. Should the program change it's entire system if you don't like it? I don't think so.

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Hmmmmmmm? Hodough equates itself with Playboy.




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his recent posts regarding his issues with our program's operations.
Ok, let's break it down. I made three post.

Post 1. about not getting an email reply about a check
Post 2. about the check
Post 3. about the fucking check

So I had to come to the board and make post #1 to even get a reply from Hodough which resulted in being told standard information that most programs put in the FAQ.

After that I didn't feel like sending more email into outter space.

So here we are.

Ahh! Affiliate email, who needs it?
Support forms in the illustrious NATS system, who needs it?
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Old 10-10-2006, 06:05 PM   #49
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Printing a logo or porn oriented name on a check shows a lack of class and understanding by the issuer. PERIOD.

The depositor has a right to privacy about what he/she does for a living.

The depositor needs to develop a trustworthy relationship with the conservative management in most lending institutions. Future loans, credit lines, etc, are based on the banks perception of the individual as well as his financial history.

Anyone thinking otherwise is spending to much time on the net, not in the real world.



Some people have yet to realize that conservative institutions are trying their best to get rid of us. They've learned nothing from Paypal deleting accounts that received payments from people using adult email addresses.
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Old 10-10-2006, 06:18 PM   #50
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Hmmmmmmm? Hodough equates itself with Playboy.






Ok, let's break it down. I made three post.

Post 1. about not getting an email reply about a check
Post 2. about the check
Post 3. about the fucking check

So I had to come to the board and make post #1 to even get a reply from Hodough which resulted in being told standard information that most programs put in the FAQ.

After that I didn't feel like sending more email into outter space.

So here we are.

Ahh! Affiliate email, who needs it?
Support forms in the illustrious NATS system, who needs it?
As per our previous GFY conversation, I requested you send me an ICQ:
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showpo...8&postcount=13

I just sent 10 test emails to my email address and it works just dandy.

I have yet to receive any sort of contact from you. From what I am told, you sent an ICQ to our accounting department, and they handled getting the check to you. You got the check, and now this??

We are not going to be changing our checks anytime soon. It may be something we do in the future, but don't hold your breath.

As far as this thread is concerned, the thread title indicates your intention of discontinued affiliation with our program, as do your stats over the past couple of weeks.

I would like to see this binding contract you mentioned as well. If you can forward it to paul [at] hushinc [dot] com or paul [at] hodough [dot] com, I'd appreciate it.

As far as I can tell, all of your contacts have been addressed, until this thread. No person at this office has received any contact from you since the check issue... until this thread. I requested that you contact me personally with whatever your needs are, and you chose not to.

I have been in this business for over a decade. I haven't been with HoDough that long, but that's beside the point. So... I will say it again, if you have some issues that need to be addressed, feel free to contact me, 126-36661 on ICQ, I will do my best to assist you, Monday to Friday 10AM to 6PM PST.

RE: The check logo, it stays, at least for now.

Regards,
Paul
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