RATBOY

This weekend me and the lady were babysitting our 2 1/2 year old niece all weekend. I don't have a safe or lockbox, so the lady mandates we leave the pistol with a friend in his safe while the kid is around. about 1:15 in the morning my girl jumps up and starts whacking me on the arm/chest to "wake up! Someone is trying to get in the front door!!!"

Okay, I hear this pounding sound and the doornob keeps turning. Our niece is sleeping (like a baby does) on the couch. I slam my side of the door with my fist to startle the asshole and yell "What do you want?!?" I look throught the peephole and I see the palm of his/her hand covering the hole.

This is the part where I am freaked out.

Meanwhile my girl has her head on straighter than I do, she shuts and locks the windows and scoops the little one up and takes her to the bedroom. The doornob keeps turning as this person keeps trying to open the door, which thankfully is deadbolted. I yell at this person at the top of my lungs "What do you WANT!?!"

Finally, the guy runs away.

We call the cops and the deputy shows up about twenty minutes later. (Where I live this is lightning fast response.) He can't do anything, I couldn't see the asshole and whoever it was was long gone.

I am now getting a lockbox and that pistol is staying in the bedroom with us. I am glad the guy didn't get in or I would be standing there with my dick in my hand.

eRock

And people want to ban handguns all together....
The criminals will still get/have guns while the rest of us are completely defenseless...

Fletch XXX

yeah man. Seriously. Whenever that happens shoot 2 or three times at the top of the door. Next time.

Sorry that happened man, thats the world we live in though.

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volante

I don't particularly like guns, but banning them in the USA would be utterly pointless - there's too many around already...

Naughty

I do not know where you are from, but sometimes getting even with a burglar is not appreciated, ask Aussie Rebel. His story is heartbreaking.

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CDSmith

Yeah, and sometimes the cop arrives to find the poor burglar half-beaten to within an inch of his fucking worthless miserable life. One guy's story of how he tried to steal CDsmith's new car back in '86 would make you cry.

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salsbury

i have to wonder, why hasn't this sort of thing ever happened to me, a non-gun owner.

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eRock

It's better than you or your family being the victims of a violent crime tho...

Toxictoy

You know - a guy I knew once was so drunk that when he went home he tried to go into the wrong house. He did the same thing and was banging on the front door and was hollering for someone to let him into the house. The cops came and arrested him for public drunkeness (which I suppose he deserved hehe)

Who's to say that the person at your front door wasn't some drunk idiot? If a burgular was trying to break into your house wouldn't the front door, which as you said was locked and deadbolted, not really be the preferred entrance but maybe a window or something else?

Just something to think about.

volante

If you ever get the chance, learn a martial art, preferably one that teaches self defence techniques.

It's amazing the amount of pain you can inflict without actually causing serious injury, and the amount of serious injury you can cause while making it look like an accident....

Fletch XXX

Thats why I said shoot at the top of the door.

And Naughty, where I am from, fuckers dont come pounding on your door at night unless they're the fucking PO-LICE. Which is also why cops introduce themselves so loudly when visiting.

If you knock on my door, in the middle of the night and I scream "What do you want?" - TWICE!- & no answer. You got big fucking problems coming in a few seconds.

Thats where I am from.

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Gemini

Most burglaries happen thru the doors of a house not the windows...

And any half butted machinist can turn out a working handgun... THAT is something to think about. We give 'em up and how many will be made in garages?

Let alone zip guns.

eRock

Exactly what he said.

VeNoM

I personally would have unlocked the door and slammed all of my body weight into it and knocked the fuck out of him with the door, then get his ass in a hammer lock while the ole lady calls the police. Thats just my over aggressive stance tho!

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volante

I can't make guns, but give me a few pints of Guinness, a jar of pickled eggs and some baked beans and I can make nerve gas

FATPad

Yepyep. Same here. Although once the dogs start barking, no one ever hangs around here. I don't even get those religious whackos anymore.

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Gemini

I can't make guns, but give me a few pints of Guinness, a jar of pickled eggs and some baked beans and I can make nerve gas

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Back! Back I say!

Naughty

I agree, but Aussie had to go to jail for 8 fucking years because of defending his house.

You won't even get that for murder here in the Netherlands.

RATBOY

No, I am not shooting at the top of the fucking door. I live in an apartment complex and yes it PROBABLY was some drunken asshole trying to get back to a party at the wrong door. I'd get arrested for public endangerment, or worse, depending how far the bullet goes and who is in it's way.

Salsbury, glad to hear it has never happened to you. Must be nice. It's a first for me. Next time the someone tries to break in I'll tell him there's someone I know who is openly defenseless who he should go to instead.

The whole point is that if he DID get in I was unnarmed and I fear for what COULD have happened if it was some sort of methed out junkie.

eRock

Pronably not here either...but who knows, US laws on this sorta thing are so assbackwards. Criminals have more rights these days...it's a fucking shame.

FATPad

Clearly it's because you don't own a gun. Only gun owners are victims of crime which makes America's fascination with owning a gun all the stranger. If we all put our guns down like you there would be no crime.

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volante

Blame my ancestors - I'm English

eRock

LMAO! Yeah right! Only ina perfect world that'll happen. Like I said above...the criminals will still be able to get guns while the rest of us are completely defenseless....
Wake up & smell the smoking gun my friend. I hear gunshots almost once week in my neighborhood...all little punk gangbangers and handguns are completely illegal; in the city of Chicago.

hahmike

once upon a time, i almost swung a baseball bat at my sister's "new" boyfriend. she had came home with him for lunch from work, for the first time. i was working busily on the pc.

i went downstairs to find some guy fiddling with the tv (says he was turning over the channel). but i didn't know who the fuck he was. stranger in the house, what am i supposed to think?

i must admit i was shitting myself though ... hahaha!

she is still with him, and i soon found out that he is a fucking prick. now i regret not swinging at him.

TopTGP

Although I am an avid airsoft gun collector, I would never want to own a real firearm... I would always be tense if I was around it... I mean.. they can bring death quite easily, you know

As far as banning guns in the states.. That's just a dream. There are already two hundred and twenty two million firearms in circulation... There's no way they could possible get rid of all those.

Here in Canada, burglers are NEVER armed (unless they have a knife or something). In the states, it seems like every criminal, right down to the petty shoplifters carries a high powered assault rifle in their pocket

Anyway... I wouldn't want to shoot a burgler anyway.. Chances are, he isn't trying to get you, he's just trying to find something that he/she can sell to support a drug habbit or something...

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salsbury

hahahahaha.

yeah, because i don't own a gun, i'm "openly defenseless". rotfl. that is the funniest thing i've read all day.

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cherrylula

I once had a female cop tell me that in a situation like that, if someone wants in, they will get in. She told me to stay quiet, and get my gun. And if you wind up shooting the guy, to make sure and drag him in your house if thats not where the shooting took place.

This was in New Orleans, and at the time we lived on the edge of a pretty bad neighborhood.

BlackRain

Gun ownership is as American as apple pie!

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RW316

im sorry that u had to go through that situation


your family should never had to experience that

i wished u had that gun.. so u can pop a few in dat dumbass for trying to harm your family

i hope that bastard gets caught...

CDSmith

Sounds like just aggressive enough to me. I'm quite peaceful by nature, but fuck with my property or someone I care about and I can get quite freaky.

I was serious... I caught a young punkpiss redhanded trying to steal my brand-new Firebird only 2 months after I bought it. I made him cry.

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mjrools23

u shouldve opened the door and gave him an ass whoopin

RATBOY

I say openly because you seem very quick to publicize that you don't own one. i say defenseless because you have not as yet offered advice on how one would protect their family from people who would otherwise be able to break down your door, kill you, rape your wife, and take your valuables for their next drug fix. I may have been to quick to say you are defenseless, I admit. So tell me, do you at least have a security alarm at your place? Something? Brown belt in aikido?

salsbury

did the guy threaten to kill you and rape your wife? did he make any sort of move towards that? how many have?

do you think a gun would prevent someone from breaking down your door and taking your valuables? you're home all the time right, waiting by the door with your gun, 'cause any minute, someone could come up, knock down the door, steal your stuff, rape your wife, and kill you. it happens every day at my apartment complex, yeah.

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CDSmith

I've got over 7 years of Tai boxing, aka: kickboxing, both traditional style (using knees & elbows etc) and N. American style (which has rules), I used to teach others as well. But when a crook points a gun at you and shoots you, all the martial arts training on the planet won't save you.

I don't own a gun myself, but then again I live in a medium sized Canadian city where the biggest weapon on a burglar is a knife. But I would never criticize someone for owning a gun for protection, especially if they live in a large American city. And to those who dis guns and think we should all "get rid of our guns and life will be rosey"..... wake the fuck up. People like you rant and rave about guns right up until your kids and your wife are murdered in front of you and there is fuck all you can do about it because you "had no gun".

That, my friends, is defenseless.

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cherrylula

One of the best security systems you can ever own...

A miniature pinscher and a shotgun.

RATBOY

Look man, I care little about my valuables compared to my safety. If they are going to take them, fine.

I asked him what he wanted, he said NOTHING. Based on your reasoning I will be sure to let him in next time. You're right after all. He didn't say he was going to kill or rape us. Too bad he had his hand over the peephole too.

Are you seriously coming back at me with THAT? Come on, you are just asking for a smack down. Give me SOME sort of challange here.

Oh yeah and i already told you this was the first time I have had this situation occur. Where I live people have had to shoot intruders cause the cops were taking so long to get there. Snohomish County. Do a search.

I am not here trying to say everyone should own a gun. That's not the point. In fact NOT everyone should. Some people are just too stupid to act responisbly with them. You have enough sense to know you have no fucking clue about the heavy responsibility one takes on when owning a firearm or when one SHOULD use it. Kudos.

RATBOY

My door opens IN.

mjrools23

shouldve taken a bat or something and opened the door and beat the shit out of him

salsbury

if you thought i was suggesting that you just let him in, you misunderstood.

thanks for the kudos, you are right. i do have the sense to know that i could probably not handle a gun in a life-or-death situation. *shrug* most people can't. i still find the paranoia (at least, what i percieve as paranoia) interesting.

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Same thing with me having a huge German Sheperd is great

CDSmith

Paranoia is being fearful of something that isn't really there. Watch the 6 o'clock news on any given day from any large N. American city and you'll see that what we are talking about here isn't paranoia.


Here, have a cheerio....

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foe

what if the robber had a gun

eRock

Due to the fact that you're takin' this situation so lightly tells me that you have absolutely no experience dealing w/ little hood-rat, gangbangers & drug addicted street dwellars watching your every move ready to take advantage of you. I'm sure your stance would be different if this were the case.

RATBOY

I wanna rotwiler. Bad. Maybe someday when we have the room and can afford the puppy chow.

Salsbury, honestly, it may seem like paranoia, but in my county, it is just common sense. But I dunno where you live. Must be a nice place where people don't ever break into your apartment and the cops are right down the street. Cops up here can take as long as half an hour showing up.

FATPad

Yep. They rock.

120 lb German Shepard and a 90 lb Chow Chow. The Shepard is way better at guarding the house though. hehe. The Chow just looks mean and sounds mean.

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salsbury

"you have absolutely no experience dealing w/ little hood-rat, gangbangers & drug addicted street dwellars"

i can't imagine ever wanting to live in such a place.

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buran

If that shit happened to me, I'd grab the 12ga mounted to the wall behind my bedroom door, walk to the front door, and shout, "Listen to this fucker!" and then chamber another round. Hopefully that loud ker-chunk would be enough to make them think twice. Besides, my first shot is bird, and it's not going to make it through my metal door. The next round, buck shot, might
make it through my door, the intruder, and the door of my neighbors across the street.

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eRock

The price ya pay for living where there's some sort of action. Believe me...I can't stand those people, but life ain't perfect. But to call protecting yourself in that kind of environment paranoia is just wrong.

willow

Well this is where it gets tricky. What are you going to do, start a shootout with your kids in the back room? Bullets go through plasterboard walls far too easily. What if the attacker is not alone.

Most people will happily spend $500 on a decent gun. I personally believe there is nothing wrong with this if you are properly trained with one and you don't mind getting brains splattered all over yourself and the sofa. The hope is that they're not yours.

I would tend towards getting good solid doors, windows and locks with a security system than the gun because in my nice safe neighborhood there is more chance kids blow their brains out from their parents gun than an attackers.

It depends where you live, who you associate with, what you do for a living, do you have kids, etc. etc.

RATBOY

I just realized you live in Seattle according to your profile. YOU SHOULD KNOW what we deal with in Snohomish county. Or you just don't watch the news at all. The Sheriff's office here is so understaffed they did an expose on them in KING 5 news. Granted we don't have a gang problem like they do in Cali. But if there is one major problem we have in Washington State it is the drug problem. We both live in highly populated areas with major city problems. There is more of a police presence in Seattle, for sure though.

If you think for a second that you don't have these sort of problems in your city, you are sadly mistaken. We live in a less crime ridden area than say New York City or Los Angeles, but just look at the gun laws there. It practicly takes an act of Congress just to get permission to own a firearm. Take another look at Austrailia, where they confiscated all privately owned firearms. Guess what happened? Armed robbery skyrocketed cause it was easy to assume that almost everyone was like you, gunless.

If you feel like you are going to live your entire life without ever experiencing an act of violence, go right ahead. You just might. But why chance it, man? I hope no one depends on you to safeguard them at home though.