Can a paysite do well if they dont accept visa? - GoFuckYourself.com

clickhappy · 07-03-2006, 11:48 AM

I'm thinking of just using mastercard, phone and checks.
any sites do this?

how many sales come in for visa? will not taking visa kill a site?

Makingcoin · 07-03-2006, 11:51 AM

You Idiot.

MandyBlake · 07-03-2006, 11:53 AM

it can do ok...
keep in mind that visa is responsible for more than half of the sales onmy sites.

scottybuzz · 07-03-2006, 11:54 AM

dont be stupid man, go for visa

BoyAlley · 07-03-2006, 11:55 AM

You'll get ZERO affiliates if you don't take Visa. So even if you're willing to ignore the fact that the vast majority of your sales would have come from Visa, it's hard to ignore the fact that you won't have any affiliates.

Makingcoin · 07-03-2006, 11:55 AM

PinkElectric · 07-03-2006, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Makingcoin

You Idiot.

A little bit harsh ... but i agree!!

flashbang · 07-03-2006, 11:57 AM

don't mastercard just call up sone of their clients and ask them to chargeback the porn orders? thought I heard they did that lol

clickhappy · 07-03-2006, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Makingcoin

You Idiot.

im just asking a question

giftedtwisted · 07-03-2006, 12:00 PM

it cant be a good thing

KrisKross · 07-03-2006, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by flashbang

don't mastercard just call up sone of their clients and ask them to chargeback the porn orders? thought I heard they did that lol

Did you read that on the back of a Cracker Jack box or something?

Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE · 07-03-2006, 12:02 PM

to cheap to pay the visa fee?

tony286 · 07-03-2006, 12:02 PM

I would say without visa say goodbye to 70 percent of sales. It does suck

AmateurFlix · 07-03-2006, 12:02 PM

if you have the budget for visa, by all means get it. if you don't have the extra $750 to spare, you should probably reconsider launching your paysite at some time when you do, however....

not accepting visa probably won't interfere as much as some would believe. keep in mind the majority of paysite sales eminate from north america and many people here have access to both visa and mastercard. so if you don't offer visa people will just sign up under their MC instead. of course those without MC will be lost to you, and that will be some %.

when I had my paysite setup I had ccbill doing the processing w/o visa (I had just started and was on a tight budget), and then switched to a different processor that offered both visa & mc. the difference between the two was slight. however as volumes increase slight %'s add up...

lagwagon · 07-03-2006, 12:07 PM

Whats the point if your not even going to take visa. You have to have that.

KrisKross · 07-03-2006, 12:37 PM

If the fee is the problem, launch it without Visa to begin with and promote it yourself. The majority of your traffic will have both MC and Visa, so you'll still make sales. I'd say count on losing at least 25% of your potential sales, though.

However, if you're looking for affiliates, you'll need to take Visa.

J. Falcon · 07-03-2006, 12:49 PM

Don't leave home without it.

Juicy D. Links · 07-03-2006, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Makingcoin

You Idiot.

dude i almost spilled my coffee on my keyboard again

Fetish Gimp · 07-03-2006, 12:56 PM

Long answer:

No.

Crypt · 07-03-2006, 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clickhappy

I'm thinking of just using mastercard, phone and checks.
any sites do this?

how many sales come in for visa? will not taking visa kill a site?

Do you think Wallmart can do well without Visa?

Same thing

No.

bobbyjuly · 07-03-2006, 01:16 PM

that $750 is a made up fee anyways. They say it is Visa registration fee. When you have 3 processors, they all ask for $750. Why would u register same site 3 times? doesnot mke sense. These 3rd party processors are just shaving us from the start.

KrisKross · 07-03-2006, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by bobbyjuly

that $750 is a made up fee anyways. They say it is Visa registration fee. When you have 3 processors, they all ask for $750. Why would u register same site 3 times? doesnot mke sense. These 3rd party processors are just shaving us from the start.

Before you start talking shit, make sure you have at least a little idea of what you're talking about.

KrisKross · 07-03-2006, 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbyjuly

that $750 is a made up fee anyways. They say it is Visa registration fee. When you have 3 processors, they all ask for $750. Why would u register same site 3 times? doesnot mke sense. These 3rd party processors are just shaving us from the start.

Before you start talking shit, make sure you have at least a little idea of what you're talking about.

tranza · 07-03-2006, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by KrisKross

Before you start talking shit, make sure you have at least a little idea of what you're talking about.

This is coming from a guy that wants to sell his sig for 2 months for $50???

Hilarious!!!

KrisKross · 07-03-2006, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by tranza

This is coming from a guy that wants to sell his sig for 2 months for $50???

Hilarious!!!

What on earth does that have to with my knowledge of the credit card processing industry?

And I'm a girl.

Violetta · 07-03-2006, 01:51 PM

Your site will die VERY fast if you dont accept visa!

bobbyjuly · 07-03-2006, 02:10 PM

I know what i am talking about. What do you know about that issue?

Your valuable comment was "Before you start talking shit, make sure you have at least a little idea of what you're talking about"

So what do you know? or do u work for a 3rd party processor?, so u got upset on my comment.

Please enlighten us

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Originally Posted by KrisKross

Before you start talking shit, make sure you have at least a little idea of what you're talking about.

KrisKross · 07-03-2006, 02:26 PM

I don't work for a processor. I reacted to your comment because it's bullshit and rife with baseless allegations.

First of all, the fee isn't per site. Second, if you process with 3 different processors, then Visa requires you to register with all three. It's not a made up fee. It's been around for nearly 4 years.

Eyes_Without_A_Face · 07-03-2006, 02:42 PM

Well, I never tried due to lack of time and because I'm doing ok with VISA, but I know there are some portuguese sites that provide passwords via SMS to download a movie or something like that. Knowing the local market I'd say that's a good choice, eg. if I had a site with portuguese as the main language, I'd go SMS. I suspect the same aplies to other european countries.
Anyway, I think VISA and a global site is the way to go

KrisKross · 07-03-2006, 02:44 PM

Yeah, for a European site, SMS is a good choice. But SMS is nowhere near that level here in North America.

BVF · 07-03-2006, 02:44 PM

having a paysite that can't take visa makes you look like a broke clown. You'll lose a ton of sales and you'll get no affiliates.

Eyes_Without_A_Face · 07-03-2006, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by KrisKross

Yeah, for a European site, SMS is a good choice. But SMS is nowhere near that level here in North America.

You're right. An American uses credit card as a regular payment method. Here in Europe Credit Card is only used when you have no money. On the other hand, a typical 10/12 years old kid here in Portugal has a cell phone. I guess that if their parents find out they SMSing for porn, you may get in trouble.

woj · 07-03-2006, 03:01 PM

good luck with that

Alphonso · 07-03-2006, 03:01 PM

bobbyjuly · 07-03-2006, 03:04 PM

OK, it is per account. If you have more then 1 site, you dont pay each time.

Something is around for 4 years doesnt mean it is not a made up fee. It just doesnt make sense for a site/account to pay same fee and do same "registration" for visa over and over. thats all i am saying.

Quote:

Originally Posted by KrisKross

I don't work for a processor. I reacted to your comment because it's bullshit and rife with baseless allegations.

First of all, the fee isn't per site. Second, if you process with 3 different processors, then Visa requires you to register with all three. It's not a made up fee. It's been around for nearly 4 years.

aico · 07-03-2006, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by bobbyjuly

that $750 is a made up fee anyways. They say it is Visa registration fee. When you have 3 processors, they all ask for $750. Why would u register same site 3 times? doesnot mke sense. These 3rd party processors are just shaving us from the start.

Actually we all had a secret meeting and decided that $750 was not enough to bother us, but just enough to keep idiots with no money from trying to start a paysite.

Secret shit though, don't tell anyone.

KrisKross · 07-03-2006, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by bobbyjuly

OK, it is per account. If you have more then 1 site, you dont pay each time.

Something is around for 4 years doesnt mean it is not a made up fee. It just doesnt make sense for a site/account to pay same fee and do same "registration" for visa over and over. thats all i am saying.

Just because you don't understand the reason behind it doesn't mean it's senseless.

dynastoned · 07-03-2006, 03:09 PM

Visa. It's everywhere you want to be.

OG LennyT · 07-03-2006, 03:10 PM

you have to accept Visa..

aico · 07-03-2006, 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbyjuly

OK, it is per account. If you have more then 1 site, you dont pay each time.

Something is around for 4 years doesnt mean it is not a made up fee. It just doesnt make sense for a site/account to pay same fee and do same "registration" for visa over and over. thats all i am saying.

So if you go see a movie at a theater, then decide you want to see the same movie at another theater, you don't have to pay again, because you already paid once at the other theater?

Stephen · 07-03-2006, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by AmateurFlix

if you have the budget for visa, by all means get it. if you don't have the extra $750 to spare, you should probably reconsider launching your paysite at some time when you do, however....

not accepting visa probably won't interfere as much as some would believe. keep in mind the majority of paysite sales eminate from north america and many people here have access to both visa and mastercard. so if you don't offer visa people will just sign up under their MC instead. of course those without MC will be lost to you, and that will be some %.

when I had my paysite setup I had ccbill doing the processing w/o visa (I had just started and was on a tight budget), and then switched to a different processor that offered both visa & mc. the difference between the two was slight. however as volumes increase slight %'s add up...

Agreed

woj · 07-03-2006, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by aico

Actually we all had a secret meeting and decided that $750 was not enough to bother us, but just enough to keep idiots with no money from trying to start a paysite.

Secret shit though, don't tell anyone.

ssssshhh, don't spread the secret out....

bobbyjuly · 07-03-2006, 03:23 PM

why dont you tell us the reason behind it. You seem like a smart girl!

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Originally Posted by KrisKross

Just because you don't understand the reason behind it doesn't mean it's senseless.

aico · 07-03-2006, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by bobbyjuly

why dont you tell us the reason behind it. You seem like a smart girl!

I'll break it down for ya...

You are not applying for Visa registration. Your processor is, for the account they are about to open on your behalf. So everytime you use a different processor they open up a new account and need to get Visa approved for that account.

Make sense? hope so, cuz it's all I got.

Barefootsies · 07-03-2006, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BVF

having a paysite that can't take visa makes you look like a broke clown. You'll lose a ton of sales and you'll get no affiliates.

Dirty Dane · 07-03-2006, 05:53 PM

Its hard to earn money if u dont accept payments

Doctor Dre · 07-03-2006, 05:58 PM

There is NO way in hell you will succeed without visa. Visa is like 75 % of the sales.

MaddCaz · 07-03-2006, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Makingcoin

You Idiot.

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AmateurFlix Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 7,762	if you have the budget for visa, by all means get it. if you don't have the extra $750 to spare, you should probably reconsider launching your paysite at some time when you do, however.... not accepting visa probably won't interfere as much as some would believe. keep in mind the majority of paysite sales eminate from north america and many people here have access to both visa and mastercard. so if you don't offer visa people will just sign up under their MC instead. of course those without MC will be lost to you, and that will be some %. when I had my paysite setup I had ccbill doing the processing w/o visa (I had just started and was on a tight budget), and then switched to a different processor that offered both visa & mc. the difference between the two was slight. however as volumes increase slight %'s add up... __________________

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KrisKross Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 5,024	I don't work for a processor. I reacted to your comment because it's bullshit and rife with baseless allegations. First of all, the fee isn't per site. Second, if you process with 3 different processors, then Visa requires you to register with all three. It's not a made up fee. It's been around for nearly 4 years. __________________

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