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clickhappy 07-03-2006 11:48 AM

Can a paysite do well if they dont accept visa?
 
I'm thinking of just using mastercard, phone and checks.
any sites do this?

how many sales come in for visa? will not taking visa kill a site?

Makingcoin 07-03-2006 11:51 AM

You Idiot.

MandyBlake 07-03-2006 11:53 AM

it can do ok...
keep in mind that visa is responsible for more than half of the sales onmy sites.

scottybuzz 07-03-2006 11:54 AM

dont be stupid man, go for visa

BoyAlley 07-03-2006 11:55 AM

You'll get ZERO affiliates if you don't take Visa. So even if you're willing to ignore the fact that the vast majority of your sales would have come from Visa, it's hard to ignore the fact that you won't have any affiliates.

Makingcoin 07-03-2006 11:55 AM

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PinkElectric 07-03-2006 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Makingcoin
You Idiot.

A little bit harsh ... but i agree!!

flashbang 07-03-2006 11:57 AM

don't mastercard just call up sone of their clients and ask them to chargeback the porn orders? thought I heard they did that lol

clickhappy 07-03-2006 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Makingcoin
You Idiot.

im just asking a question

giftedtwisted 07-03-2006 12:00 PM

it cant be a good thing

KrisKross 07-03-2006 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flashbang
don't mastercard just call up sone of their clients and ask them to chargeback the porn orders? thought I heard they did that lol

Did you read that on the back of a Cracker Jack box or something?

Jon Clark - BANNED FOR LIFE 07-03-2006 12:02 PM

to cheap to pay the visa fee?

tony286 07-03-2006 12:02 PM

I would say without visa say goodbye to 70 percent of sales. It does suck

AmateurFlix 07-03-2006 12:02 PM

if you have the budget for visa, by all means get it. if you don't have the extra $750 to spare, you should probably reconsider launching your paysite at some time when you do, however....

not accepting visa probably won't interfere as much as some would believe. keep in mind the majority of paysite sales eminate from north america and many people here have access to both visa and mastercard. so if you don't offer visa people will just sign up under their MC instead. of course those without MC will be lost to you, and that will be some %.

when I had my paysite setup I had ccbill doing the processing w/o visa (I had just started and was on a tight budget), and then switched to a different processor that offered both visa & mc. the difference between the two was slight. however as volumes increase slight %'s add up...

lagwagon 07-03-2006 12:07 PM

Whats the point if your not even going to take visa. You have to have that.

KrisKross 07-03-2006 12:37 PM

If the fee is the problem, launch it without Visa to begin with and promote it yourself. The majority of your traffic will have both MC and Visa, so you'll still make sales. I'd say count on losing at least 25% of your potential sales, though.

However, if you're looking for affiliates, you'll need to take Visa.

J. Falcon 07-03-2006 12:49 PM

Don't leave home without it. :thumbsup

Juicy D. Links 07-03-2006 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Makingcoin
You Idiot.

dude i almost spilled my coffee on my keyboard again :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Fetish Gimp 07-03-2006 12:56 PM

Long answer:

No.

Crypt 07-03-2006 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clickhappy
I'm thinking of just using mastercard, phone and checks.
any sites do this?

how many sales come in for visa? will not taking visa kill a site?

Do you think Wallmart can do well without Visa?

Same thing

No.

bobbyjuly 07-03-2006 01:16 PM

that $750 is a made up fee anyways. They say it is Visa registration fee. When you have 3 processors, they all ask for $750. Why would u register same site 3 times? doesnot mke sense. These 3rd party processors are just shaving us from the start.

KrisKross 07-03-2006 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbyjuly
that $750 is a made up fee anyways. They say it is Visa registration fee. When you have 3 processors, they all ask for $750. Why would u register same site 3 times? doesnot mke sense. These 3rd party processors are just shaving us from the start.

Before you start talking shit, make sure you have at least a little idea of what you're talking about.

KrisKross 07-03-2006 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbyjuly
that $750 is a made up fee anyways. They say it is Visa registration fee. When you have 3 processors, they all ask for $750. Why would u register same site 3 times? doesnot mke sense. These 3rd party processors are just shaving us from the start.

Before you start talking shit, make sure you have at least a little idea of what you're talking about.

tranza 07-03-2006 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KrisKross
Before you start talking shit, make sure you have at least a little idea of what you're talking about.

This is coming from a guy that wants to sell his sig for 2 months for $50???

Hilarious!!!

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

KrisKross 07-03-2006 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tranza
This is coming from a guy that wants to sell his sig for 2 months for $50???

Hilarious!!!

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

What on earth does that have to with my knowledge of the credit card processing industry?

And I'm a girl.

Violetta 07-03-2006 01:51 PM

Your site will die VERY fast if you dont accept visa!

bobbyjuly 07-03-2006 02:10 PM

I know what i am talking about. What do you know about that issue?

Your valuable comment was "Before you start talking shit, make sure you have at least a little idea of what you're talking about"

So what do you know? or do u work for a 3rd party processor?, so u got upset on my comment.

Please enlighten us :2 cents:


Quote:

Originally Posted by KrisKross
Before you start talking shit, make sure you have at least a little idea of what you're talking about.


KrisKross 07-03-2006 02:26 PM

I don't work for a processor. I reacted to your comment because it's bullshit and rife with baseless allegations.

First of all, the fee isn't per site. Second, if you process with 3 different processors, then Visa requires you to register with all three. It's not a made up fee. It's been around for nearly 4 years.

Eyes_Without_A_Face 07-03-2006 02:42 PM

Well, I never tried due to lack of time and because I'm doing ok with VISA, but I know there are some portuguese sites that provide passwords via SMS to download a movie or something like that. Knowing the local market I'd say that's a good choice, eg. if I had a site with portuguese as the main language, I'd go SMS. I suspect the same aplies to other european countries.
Anyway, I think VISA and a global site is the way to go :2 cents:

KrisKross 07-03-2006 02:44 PM

Yeah, for a European site, SMS is a good choice. But SMS is nowhere near that level here in North America.

BVF 07-03-2006 02:44 PM

having a paysite that can't take visa makes you look like a broke clown. You'll lose a ton of sales and you'll get no affiliates.

Eyes_Without_A_Face 07-03-2006 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KrisKross
Yeah, for a European site, SMS is a good choice. But SMS is nowhere near that level here in North America.

You're right. An American uses credit card as a regular payment method. Here in Europe Credit Card is only used when you have no money. On the other hand, a typical 10/12 years old kid here in Portugal has a cell phone. I guess that if their parents find out they SMSing for porn, you may get in trouble.

woj 07-03-2006 03:01 PM

good luck with that :thumbsup

Alphonso 07-03-2006 03:01 PM

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bobbyjuly 07-03-2006 03:04 PM

OK, it is per account. If you have more then 1 site, you dont pay each time.

Something is around for 4 years doesnt mean it is not a made up fee. It just doesnt make sense for a site/account to pay same fee and do same "registration" for visa over and over. thats all i am saying.



Quote:

Originally Posted by KrisKross
I don't work for a processor. I reacted to your comment because it's bullshit and rife with baseless allegations.

First of all, the fee isn't per site. Second, if you process with 3 different processors, then Visa requires you to register with all three. It's not a made up fee. It's been around for nearly 4 years.


aico 07-03-2006 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbyjuly
that $750 is a made up fee anyways. They say it is Visa registration fee. When you have 3 processors, they all ask for $750. Why would u register same site 3 times? doesnot mke sense. These 3rd party processors are just shaving us from the start.


Actually we all had a secret meeting and decided that $750 was not enough to bother us, but just enough to keep idiots with no money from trying to start a paysite.

Secret shit though, don't tell anyone.

KrisKross 07-03-2006 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbyjuly
OK, it is per account. If you have more then 1 site, you dont pay each time.

Something is around for 4 years doesnt mean it is not a made up fee. It just doesnt make sense for a site/account to pay same fee and do same "registration" for visa over and over. thats all i am saying.

Just because you don't understand the reason behind it doesn't mean it's senseless.

dynastoned 07-03-2006 03:09 PM

Visa. It's everywhere you want to be.

OG LennyT 07-03-2006 03:10 PM

you have to accept Visa..

aico 07-03-2006 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbyjuly
OK, it is per account. If you have more then 1 site, you dont pay each time.

Something is around for 4 years doesnt mean it is not a made up fee. It just doesnt make sense for a site/account to pay same fee and do same "registration" for visa over and over. thats all i am saying.


So if you go see a movie at a theater, then decide you want to see the same movie at another theater, you don't have to pay again, because you already paid once at the other theater?

Stephen 07-03-2006 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmateurFlix
if you have the budget for visa, by all means get it. if you don't have the extra $750 to spare, you should probably reconsider launching your paysite at some time when you do, however....

not accepting visa probably won't interfere as much as some would believe. keep in mind the majority of paysite sales eminate from north america and many people here have access to both visa and mastercard. so if you don't offer visa people will just sign up under their MC instead. of course those without MC will be lost to you, and that will be some %.

when I had my paysite setup I had ccbill doing the processing w/o visa (I had just started and was on a tight budget), and then switched to a different processor that offered both visa & mc. the difference between the two was slight. however as volumes increase slight %'s add up...

Agreed :thumbsup

woj 07-03-2006 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aico
Actually we all had a secret meeting and decided that $750 was not enough to bother us, but just enough to keep idiots with no money from trying to start a paysite.

Secret shit though, don't tell anyone.

ssssshhh, don't spread the secret out....

bobbyjuly 07-03-2006 03:23 PM

why dont you tell us the reason behind it. You seem like a smart girl!

Quote:

Originally Posted by KrisKross
Just because you don't understand the reason behind it doesn't mean it's senseless.


aico 07-03-2006 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbyjuly
why dont you tell us the reason behind it. You seem like a smart girl!


I'll break it down for ya...

You are not applying for Visa registration. Your processor is, for the account they are about to open on your behalf. So everytime you use a different processor they open up a new account and need to get Visa approved for that account.

Make sense? hope so, cuz it's all I got.

Barefootsies 07-03-2006 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BVF
having a paysite that can't take visa makes you look like a broke clown. You'll lose a ton of sales and you'll get no affiliates.


:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Dirty Dane 07-03-2006 05:53 PM

Its hard to earn money if u dont accept payments :)

Doctor Dre 07-03-2006 05:58 PM

There is NO way in hell you will succeed without visa. Visa is like 75 % of the sales.

MaddCaz 07-03-2006 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Makingcoin
You Idiot.

:1orglaugh


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