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The Duck · 06-01-2006, 08:41 AM

McGovern: Staged terror attacks across Europe, US "probable" in order to justify invasion

Paul Joseph Watson/Prison Planet.com | June 1 2006

Former CIA analyst and Presidential advisor Ray McGovern, fresh from his heated public confrontation with Donald Rumsfeld, fears that staged terror attacks across Europe and the US are probable in order to justify the Bush administration's plan to launch a military strike against Iran, which he thinks will take place in June or July.

Appearing on The Alex Jones Show, McGovern was asked about the timetable for war in Iran and said that behind the diplomatic smokescreen, the final chess pieces were being moved into position.

"There is already one carrier task force there in the Gulf, two are steaming toward it at the last report I have at least - they will all be there in another week or so."

"The propaganda has been laid, the aircraft carriers are in place, it doesn't take much to fly the bombers out of British and US bases - cruse missiles are at the ready, Israel is egging us on," said McGovern.

McGovern said Iran's likely response to a US air strike would be threefold - mobilizing worldwide terrorist cells that would make Al-Qaeda look like a girls netball team - utilizing its cruise missile arsenal to attack US ships and sending fighters into Iraq to attack US forces.

"The Iranians can easily send three divisions of revolutionary guard troops right over....the long border with Iraq," said McGovern, stating that the local Sunni population of Iraq would welcome such an invasion.

The turmoil caused by such an action would lead the US to tap its so-called 'mini-nuke' arsenal said McGovern, opening a new Pandora's box of chaos.

McGovern highlighted President Bush's all time record low approval ratings as a reason for launching an attack on Iran to again whip up false patriotic fervour.

"I can see Karl Rove saying, 'look what you need to do is become a war president again, get us involved with something pretty big here and then strut around and say you can't vote for a bunch of Democrats to pull the rug out from under me while there's a war going on'."

McGovern drew a comparison with the concillatory cold war stance of Russia and JFK's decision to respond in a similar manner, and the Iranian President's letter which was immediately dismissed by the Bush administration. JFK's approach saved the US from potential nuclear anihalation while Bush's actions put the US in severe danger as Russia and China give ominous mixed signals on what their response to a US strike on Iran will be.

McGovern lambasted Bush's inner circle as uniformly lacking any real military experience and characterized them as a cabal already hell-bent on war.

McGovern entertained the notion that western governments and intelligence hierarchies could potentially stage terror attacks in Europe and the US either before or after an invasion of Iran.

"That's altogether possible," said McGovern.

"I would say even probable because they need some proximate cause, some casus belli to justify really unleashing things on Iran....I would put very little past this crew - their record of dissembling and disingenuousness is unparalleled."

McGovern said that Rove, Cheney and Rumsfeld, fearing impeachment and Enron-style criminal proceedings, are urging President Bush to launch a war in order to create a climate unconducive to lengthy investigations and impeachment proceedings.

Asked to cite specifically when we should expect to see an attack launched, McGovern said, "I think we all agree that an attack is likely before the election and we all agree that it has to do largely with the election - as for timing I see a likelihood that it could come as early as late June or early July, most of my colleagues predict August, September, maybe an October surprise even."

"My thinking is that for it to be October that would be so crass and so transparent that even this crowd would shy away from making it so obvious," said McGovern.

McGovern is set to appear along with a host of other respected and credible whistleblowers at the American Scholars Symposium at the end of this month.

KRL · 06-01-2006, 09:31 AM

Anything is possible. I wouldn't be surprised if some bogus attacks were setup and launched to justify an attack on them.

Juilan · 06-01-2006, 09:44 AM

Gas prices up, Market showing signs of heading for a MAJOR correction, time to wag the dog and distract everyone I guess....

The Duck · 06-01-2006, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Juilan

Gas prices up, Market showing signs of heading for a MAJOR correction, time to wag the dog and distract everyone I guess....

directfiesta · 06-01-2006, 11:48 AM

This post has been declared officially ANTI-AMERICAN by the Dean of the AAAA ....

Thrawn$ · 06-01-2006, 11:53 AM

looks like we'll get an terrorist attack planed by iran on the world cup next week

fetishblog · 06-01-2006, 11:56 AM

MarkMan · 06-01-2006, 01:46 PM

well.. so what.. good for bush

hmm.. time to buy some oil stocks

Googled · 06-01-2006, 01:49 PM

Experts said there was armes of massive destruction too..

ContentSHOOTER · 06-01-2006, 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KRL

Anything is possible. I wouldn't be surprised if some bogus attacks were setup and launched to justify an attack on them.

Oh you know that will happen...

Linkster · 06-01-2006, 02:42 PM

It would certainly be the worsst time to do it since the Iranians are just starting war games involving 100s of thousands of their troops so they would be in a perfect defensive position.

I think the last thread I responded about this scenario was a little closer to - an Iranian "flagged" freighter is headed towards a major US harbor - it is discovered that it is under control of Iranian backed terrorists including a small nuclear device onboard. We destroy it just outside the harbor with the visual of the N-bomb going off and "what could have happened if the ship had made it to port" press releases.

This would all lead to the US leaving the UN and ordering its representatives out of the country, no longer supporting its charters, and leading to the already calculated escalation in the middle east that has been planned for for over 20 years.

From there its not a big step to the religious zealotry that God told Bush to be ready to support

Webby · 06-01-2006, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta

This post has been declared officially ANTI-AMERICAN by the Dean of the AAAA ....

And YOU are an "American hater" for making that post!

Gawd help us

The Duck · 06-01-2006, 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Linkster

It would certainly be the worsst time to do it since the Iranians are just starting war games involving 100s of thousands of their troops so they would be in a perfect defensive position.

I think the last thread I responded about this scenario was a little closer to - an Iranian "flagged" freighter is headed towards a major US harbor - it is discovered that it is under control of Iranian backed terrorists including a small nuclear device onboard. We destroy it just outside the harbor with the visual of the N-bomb going off and "what could have happened if the ship had made it to port" press releases.

This would all lead to the US leaving the UN and ordering its representatives out of the country, no longer supporting its charters, and leading to the already calculated escalation in the middle east that has been planned for for over 20 years.

From there its not a big step to the religious zealotry that God told Bush to be ready to support

US leave the UN? Why, USA created the UN and it is just a puppet meant to confuse and distort.

Webby · 06-01-2006, 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Linkster

This would all lead to the US leaving the UN...

Got little doubts there is a desire to do just that given the chance.

Any international organisation shows a cohesion within the international community - despite all differences. In effect this is a "threat" to some some countries.

There is one country on this planet who has been more vocal in anti international organisations or where there is representation from all countries - and this has been the USA.

US "freedoms" don't even extend to keeping their own agreement over the abandonment of ICANN in September and where all countries with TLD's would replace this with an internationally represented board. Tho, little doubts that will happen, with or without the US.

pocketkangaroo · 06-01-2006, 03:46 PM

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nestle · 06-01-2006, 04:13 PM

This may be considered verbally to try to scare Iran off but this will never happen unless we are out of Iraq and that isn't happening any time soon. Sure Bush can legally have military presence in Iran with his War Powers Act for a limited time but it won't be long before they yank them out of there because Congress would never approve prolonged presence there. It's a lesson learn in history, remember what happened to the Nazis when they started a war on two fronts?

The Iranians have an edge here especially with the anti-American views present almost everywhere outside of the borders of the US of A (especially in Iran). Every time the Iranian President opposes the west, he'll get more and more approval from his own people. It's pretty interesting to watch how leaders in other countries influence their own political power by simply saying "No" to everything USA-supported.

Webby · 06-01-2006, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by nestle

The Iranians have an edge here especially with the anti-American views present almost everywhere outside of the borders of the US of A (especially in Iran).

Sure... there is generally some "anti-American" views all over the planet at this time - and with good cause.

But one thing you may be surprised about is in the average Iranian individual - they don't "hate" the US, but are actually attracted by "US ways". They sure as hell are not aware that, in general, the US hates them so much.

Pornwolf · 06-01-2006, 04:23 PM

Anything could happen but I don't think this will happen during this term. We have been wanting to stomp a mudhole in Iran's ass since the late 70's... but we have waited for the right moment. This isn't it. Now, the next president will probably take this and run with it after the Iraq troops have been decomissioned... but not before they leave the area.

drctfiesta · 06-01-2006, 04:24 PM

MarkMan · 06-01-2006, 07:13 PM

well .. if not for this man .. their would be no " excuse "

Paul · 06-02-2006, 05:07 AM

Has Iran started selling their oil in euros yet ?

Who else is seeing a trend here, Iraq sell oil in euros in 2000 and get invaded

Venezuela consider selling oil in euros - results in failed CIA assasination attempt on Hugo Chavez

Iran about to sell their oil in euros - About to get attacked under the guise on their potential nuclear threat

06-02-2006, 05:11 AM

bogus attacks thats a step to far

u-Bob · 06-02-2006, 05:17 AM

So that guy is saying that Iraqi Sunni muslims would welcome an invasion of Iranian Shi'i muslims? yeah right...

The Duck · 06-02-2006, 05:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Altwebdesign

bogus attacks thats a step to far

Is it really?

www.911truth.org

www.loosechange911.com

Manowar · 06-02-2006, 06:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KRL

Anything is possible. I wouldn't be surprised if some bogus attacks were setup and launched to justify an attack on them.

what is the world coming to

psili · 06-02-2006, 06:14 AM

Has one of your "news" threads touting that something is going to happen ever come to fruition?

Granted, I'd rather not see this one proved, but with your track record, there's a lot of doubt.....

*shrug*

CheeseFrog · 06-03-2006, 08:44 PM

ROFL.. since when in the history of W. Bush's presidency has he EVER needed an excuse to invade a country? Bush has shown that he'll invade a country if he damn well pleases, regardless if his motives are based on insubstantiable "evidence". I don't see why he'd need to fabricate an excuse now.

minusonebit · 06-03-2006, 08:53 PM

Hmmm, I better up my bet at uwager.com:

US launch preemptive strike against Iran? Thu 8/10 0:00AM (EST)
9189 Yes +1000

* Note: Will the United States launch a preemptive military strike against Iran in the next three months? (Before 7/10/2006)

I already have $50 on it... prolly better double or triple it.

06-01-2006, 08:41 AM	#1
The Duck Adult Content Provider Industry Role: Join Date: May 2005 Location: Europe Posts: 18,243	Former CIA Analyst Says Iran Strike Set For June Or July McGovern: Staged terror attacks across Europe, US "probable" in order to justify invasion Paul Joseph Watson/Prison Planet.com \| June 1 2006 Former CIA analyst and Presidential advisor Ray McGovern, fresh from his heated public confrontation with Donald Rumsfeld, fears that staged terror attacks across Europe and the US are probable in order to justify the Bush administration's plan to launch a military strike against Iran, which he thinks will take place in June or July. Appearing on The Alex Jones Show, McGovern was asked about the timetable for war in Iran and said that behind the diplomatic smokescreen, the final chess pieces were being moved into position. "There is already one carrier task force there in the Gulf, two are steaming toward it at the last report I have at least - they will all be there in another week or so." "The propaganda has been laid, the aircraft carriers are in place, it doesn't take much to fly the bombers out of British and US bases - cruse missiles are at the ready, Israel is egging us on," said McGovern. McGovern said Iran's likely response to a US air strike would be threefold - mobilizing worldwide terrorist cells that would make Al-Qaeda look like a girls netball team - utilizing its cruise missile arsenal to attack US ships and sending fighters into Iraq to attack US forces. "The Iranians can easily send three divisions of revolutionary guard troops right over....the long border with Iraq," said McGovern, stating that the local Sunni population of Iraq would welcome such an invasion. The turmoil caused by such an action would lead the US to tap its so-called 'mini-nuke' arsenal said McGovern, opening a new Pandora's box of chaos. McGovern highlighted President Bush's all time record low approval ratings as a reason for launching an attack on Iran to again whip up false patriotic fervour. "I can see Karl Rove saying, 'look what you need to do is become a war president again, get us involved with something pretty big here and then strut around and say you can't vote for a bunch of Democrats to pull the rug out from under me while there's a war going on'." McGovern drew a comparison with the concillatory cold war stance of Russia and JFK's decision to respond in a similar manner, and the Iranian President's letter which was immediately dismissed by the Bush administration. JFK's approach saved the US from potential nuclear anihalation while Bush's actions put the US in severe danger as Russia and China give ominous mixed signals on what their response to a US strike on Iran will be. McGovern lambasted Bush's inner circle as uniformly lacking any real military experience and characterized them as a cabal already hell-bent on war. McGovern entertained the notion that western governments and intelligence hierarchies could potentially stage terror attacks in Europe and the US either before or after an invasion of Iran. "That's altogether possible," said McGovern. "I would say even probable because they need some proximate cause, some casus belli to justify really unleashing things on Iran....I would put very little past this crew - their record of dissembling and disingenuousness is unparalleled." McGovern said that Rove, Cheney and Rumsfeld, fearing impeachment and Enron-style criminal proceedings, are urging President Bush to launch a war in order to create a climate unconducive to lengthy investigations and impeachment proceedings. Asked to cite specifically when we should expect to see an attack launched, McGovern said, "I think we all agree that an attack is likely before the election and we all agree that it has to do largely with the election - as for timing I see a likelihood that it could come as early as late June or early July, most of my colleagues predict August, September, maybe an October surprise even." "My thinking is that for it to be October that would be so crass and so transparent that even this crowd would shy away from making it so obvious," said McGovern. McGovern is set to appear along with a host of other respected and credible whistleblowers at the American Scholars Symposium at the end of this month. __________________ Skype Horusmaia ICQ 41555245 Email [email protected]

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