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SmokeyTheBear 03-27-2006 11:53 AM

I'll explain how the conspiracy went for the uninformed..

Some arabs with boxcutters hijacked 4 planes , took out 2 of the biggest buildings in america and hit the pnetagon..

glad i could help

FetishTom 03-27-2006 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
we do know one thing it WAS consistant with .. A controlled demolition.. infact it looks like hundreds of other controlled demolitions.. , and nothing like non existant steel building collapses, because they dont happen period..

And so says the building expert who I seem to recall saying that he was not pushing any one theory just asking for an 'explanation' and an 'investigation' into what really happened

...yeah right :321GFY

we back to you just wanting your own theories validated dude. Investigation into what really happened my arse

Phoenix 03-27-2006 11:58 AM

who killed john Oneill
https://youtube.com/watch?v=dmniC9kdcPE&search=o%27neil

SmokeyTheBear 03-27-2006 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FetishTom
And so says the building expert who I seem to recall saying that he was not pushing any one theory just asking for an 'explanation' and an 'investigation' into what really happened

...yeah right :321GFY

we back to you just wanting your own theories validated dude. Investigation into what really happened my arse

hey fruitcake , do you have eyeballs , have you seen any controlled demolitions ? did it look like them or not ? easy question easy answer..

Do you also now understand the english language ? need to know what the word consistant means.. ? go look it up.. thats right take your head out of your ass and learn something ..

So im waiting for you to respond with your "consistant" steel building collapse ?

Oh wait you dont have any because it hasn't happened .. thus making it INCONSISTANT ..:1orglaugh

Again you seem to hallucinate i have "theories" , what "theories" are these ? care to share your hallucinations or just spout more drivel you cant backup because you cant grasp the english language.

SmokeyTheBear 03-27-2006 12:05 PM

There are smart people , there are dumb people , then there are people who barely qualify as literate..

I suggest to those who dont understand how to comprehend english should not respond in threads.. infact turn your computer off now and go read a book first.. start with learning what "conspiracy" means , then move on to the harder ones :1orglaugh

kenny 03-27-2006 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
nope your not even close to anything mentioned, infact i dont think anyone was idiotic enough to make some vague assumption ..

So to answer simply. no

Perhaps you should go look up the word conspiracy in your dictionary. Figure out what it means then come back and read the thread, then you will understand what this thread is about.. :thumbsup


work with me here

If your going to make outrageous claims of missiles hitting the Pentagon or controlled explosions taking down the WTC then you should at the very least have some substance to it.

Why would they need to blow up the buildings after they were hit by planes?

kenny 03-27-2006 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
I'll explain how the conspiracy went for the uninformed..

Some arabs with boxcutters hijacked 4 planes , took out 2 of the biggest buildings in america and hit the pnetagon..

glad i could help


There is a shit load more evidence that points to this one that you just posted.

As a added bonus it even makes alot more sense

SmokeyTheBear 03-27-2006 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenny
work with me here

If your going to make outrageous claims of missiles hitting the Pentagon or controlled explosions taking down the WTC then you should at the very least have some substance to it.

Why would they need to blow up the buildings after they were hit by planes?

wtf are you talking about ? i never said anything about missiles. jeez cant you people read.. i didnt make ANY "claims" . no offense but.. just because you hear some crackpot say a missile hit the building doesnt mean everyoner on earth who questions anything agrees a missile hit a building..

SmokeyTheBear 03-27-2006 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by kenny
There is a shit load more evidence that points to this one that you just posted.

As a added bonus it even makes alot more sense

well gee go figure what the fuck do you think everyone is asking for ...? :1orglaugh

aHosting 03-27-2006 12:29 PM

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...se+change+9-11

This is the Official Explained Video i have seen till now. I knew something was wrong with that Plane.
I want to hear the Passenger's Families... All telephone calls.None of them showed up on the TV. The Families of all the Victims that were in the Building around the building died for no Reason.
Bush Administration did this shit, killed our brothers/sisters/kids.

kenny 03-27-2006 12:29 PM

Charlie Sheen is a fucking idiot and so is anyone that believes this shit about missiles and bombs

True we may never know everything about 911..

But some of the shit I read on GFY is profoundly retarded.

Hitting our own buildings with planes/missiles just isn't enough - we have to blow them up afterwards :1orglaugh

PurrrsianPussyKat 03-27-2006 12:29 PM

Excellent video of BYU Professor Steven E Jones. Lots of great info in here!

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...34652002408586

SmokeyTheBear 03-27-2006 12:33 PM

i dont know if you people just dont understand english or are so clouded by your own opinions that its warpinf your understanding of english..

What i said was it was CONSISTANT ( go look it up before going any further ) with a controlled demoliton and NOT consistant with a collapse..

your brain somehow warped that into " I CLAIMED IT WAS A CONTROLLED DEMO"

and again with the pentagon .. because i ask to see the videos of the crash its suddenly warped into "missiles" hitting the pentagon ..

no offense but first make sure your "enemy" is actually your "enemy" before you make stuff up out of thin air..

Phoenix 03-27-2006 12:35 PM

fuck all these people smokey

may the reigns of slavery not fall heavily on their necks

im sick and disgusted by the lack of patriotism i see in this thread

there is a good chance somethign evil was done in your own backyards..and yet most do nothing...karma

elitegirls 03-27-2006 12:40 PM

we (rest of the world) don't hate you americans, just your government..

but u've to wake up please and stop that terror regime in the whitehouse!

stickyfingerz 03-27-2006 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
nope your not even close to anything mentioned, infact i dont think anyone was idiotic enough to make some vague assumption ..

So to answer simply. no

Perhaps you should go look up the word conspiracy in your dictionary. Figure out what it means then come back and read the thread, then you will understand what this thread is about.. :thumbsup


Title of thread

Lets Apply some logic to the Charlie Sheen 9/11 theory.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlie Sheen
"It seems to me like 19 amateurs with box cutters taking over four commercial airliners and hitting 75% of their targets, that feels like a conspiracy theory. It raises a lot of questions."

Now are you saying he isnt questioning the fact that terrorists flew planes into the wtc? WTF are some of you on crack?

SmokeyTheBear 03-27-2006 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix
fuck all these people smokey

may the reigns of slavery not fall heavily on their necks

im sick and disgusted by the lack of patriotism i see in this thread

there is a good chance somethign evil was done in your own backyards..and yet most do nothing...karma

ahh i always enjoy a good argument , sometimes i take their side :) i just find it funny when people on both sides lump people together.

I ask to see a video , somehow turns into "missiles attacking the pentagon"

I post a gif of a strange explosion and its " a crazy coffee machine" that bush was a part of.

90% of the garbage is just that garbage re-iterated but easily disproven.. but theres 10% that are reasonable questions that americans want answered, so regardless of your opinion , your either democratic enough to realise we should grant that wish to the majority of americans seeing as how we are spending billions on the assumptions that everything that was in the official report is true , or you think we should ignore all the questions , go towards more of a dictatorship where bush makes all our decisions for us and ignores what the people want because he knows better.

stickyfingerz 03-27-2006 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
i dont know if you people just dont understand english or are so clouded by your own opinions that its warpinf your understanding of english..

What i said was it was CONSISTANT ( go look it up before going any further ) with a controlled demoliton and NOT consistant with a collapse..

your brain somehow warped that into " I CLAIMED IT WAS A CONTROLLED DEMO"

and again with the pentagon .. because i ask to see the videos of the crash its suddenly warped into "missiles" hitting the pentagon ..

no offense but first make sure your "enemy" is actually your "enemy" before you make stuff up out of thin air..

You've made two different gif's showing supposed explosions coming from the buildings. Some people might have a hard time connecting A to B, but I think most of us get what you are insinuating...

SmokeyTheBear 03-27-2006 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerzdotnet
Now are you saying he isnt questioning the fact that terrorists flew planes into the wtc? WTF are some of you on crack?

if i said that you would read it , but i didnt say that did i ? are you high on crack or something ? seriously , why would you try to put words in my mouth..

so to answer your question , no i never said that , your hallucinating. quote me if i said that..

stickyfingerz 03-27-2006 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix
fuck all these people smokey

may the reigns of slavery not fall heavily on their necks

im sick and disgusted by the lack of patriotism i see in this thread

there is a good chance somethign evil was done in your own backyards..and yet most do nothing...karma

You're from Canada srsly fook off eh?

stickyfingerz 03-27-2006 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
if i said that you would read it , but i didnt say that did i ? are you high on crack or something ? seriously , why would you try to put words in my mouth..

so to answer your question , no i never said that , your hallucinating. quote me if i said that..

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerzdotnet
You've made two different gif's showing supposed explosions coming from the buildings. Some people might have a hard time connecting A to B, but I think most of us get what you are insinuating...

:thumbsup

KRL 03-27-2006 12:46 PM

These threads are bizarre.

I've never seen a tall building fall over perfectly sideways.

The towers were architechurally designed to pancake collapse.

The only conspiracy is the fact that a bunch of ultra rich industrialists got together at a country club after 9/11 to figure out how they could make money from using the event for their own trillion dollar financial gain.

Phoenix 03-27-2006 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerzdotnet
You're from Canada srsly fook off eh?


CDN banks just underwrote some of you major banking ops

basically we own your mortgages


fuck you all

stickyfingerz 03-27-2006 12:51 PM

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060327/...NlYwMlJVRPUCUl

ALEXANDRIA, Va. - Al-Qaida conspirator Zacarias Moussaoui testified Monday that he and would-be shoe bomber Richard Reid were supposed to hijack a fifth airplane on Sept. 11, 2001, and fly it into the White House.




Hmmm He must be a plant. Fuckin GWB and his witness's and Arabs taking credit....

SmokeyTheBear 03-27-2006 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerzdotnet
You've made two different gif's showing supposed explosions coming from the buildings. Some people might have a hard time connecting A to B, but I think most of us get what you are insinuating...

lol now they are "supposed" explosions :1orglaugh

Ok your right , magical explosion like puffs of explosive like cluds of explosive material blew out the "supposed" window..

I was trying to insinuate people look at the gif , nothing more. If i had a theory , even a vague theory on what that was i would have said what i thought it was..

I know exactly what you know about it because it s a fucking video.. you watch it stuff hapens your brain registers it , im not sure what exactly your trying to say.. all i was trying to "insinuate" was it was something odd that i would like to know how it happened. I live in a large building and would like to understand how a structure gives way like that in that fashion as engineers say it must have been explosion or structural weakness.

Most of the elevator shafts dont run top to bottom ( infact only 1 does ) the rest are sub elevators that travel section to section2 making up 4-5 sub shafts that end on certain floors. that could have been one ofg the bottom of one of the top shafts and thus the material being shoved down the shaft and exploding in the lobby on that floor.

But hey im not an engineer , thats why i dont think its so insane to want to know what happened more than the rushed private investigation we got.

SuckOnThis 03-27-2006 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by kenny
Hitting our own buildings with planes/missiles just isn't enough - we have to blow them up afterwards :1orglaugh

Makes perfect sense to me. What better way to destroy evidence than to have it burn for about an hour then have it crashing down 80 stories. Doesnt it occur to anyone why both planes hit the top part of both buildings yet the plane that hit the Pentagon was on ground level? Why wouldnt they try to hit the buildings lower? Seems the terrorists didnt plan on the buildings collapsing so doesnt it make sense that you would fuck up more people by hitting them lower? And if the buildings didnt collapse it wouldnt have been nearly as big of thing as it turned out to be.

This administration had no problem whatsoever lying to invade a country, why wouldnt you put something like this past them?

SmokeyTheBear 03-27-2006 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerzdotnet
Quote:
Originally Posted by stickyfingerzdotnet

Now are you saying he isnt questioning the fact that terrorists flew planes into the wtc? WTF are some of you on crack?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
if i said that you would read it , but i didnt say that did i ? are you high on crack or something ? seriously , why would you try to put words in my mouth..

so to answer your question , no i never said that , your hallucinating. quote me if i said that..

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Quote:
Originally Posted by stickyfingerzdotnet
You've made two different gif's showing supposed explosions coming from the buildings. Some people might have a hard time connecting A to B, but I think most of us get what you are insinuating...

so in other words you cant quote me saying that so instead quote something you wrote lol great argument :1orglaugh

SmokeyTheBear 03-27-2006 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerzdotnet
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060327/...NlYwMlJVRPUCUl

ALEXANDRIA, Va. - Al-Qaida conspirator Zacarias Moussaoui testified Monday that he and would-be shoe bomber Richard Reid were supposed to hijack a fifth airplane on Sept. 11, 2001, and fly it into the White House.




Hmmm He must be a plant. Fuckin GWB and his witness's and Arabs taking credit....


and that has what exactly to do with 9/11 NOT being a conspiracy ?

nothing.. :thumbsup

drivel on..:winkwink:

SmokeyTheBear 03-27-2006 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KRL
The towers were architechurally designed to pancake collapse.
.

they should have "architechurally" designed them to NOT collapse :1orglaugh

sorry i had to say it

SuckOnThis 03-27-2006 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
they should have "architechurally" designed them to NOT collapse :1orglaugh

sorry i had to say it


Well someone said they were designed to take on a direct hit from a 737, but it wasnt the plane hitting them that made them collapsed, it was the fuel/fire, which would have also been the case if it was a 737.

FetishTom 03-27-2006 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
hey fruitcake , do you have eyeballs , have you seen any controlled demolitions ? did it look like them or not ? easy question easy answer..

Do you also now understand the english language ? need to know what the word consistant means.. ? go look it up.. thats right take your head out of your ass and learn something ..

So im waiting for you to respond with your "consistant" steel building collapse ?

Oh wait you dont have any because it hasn't happened .. thus making it INCONSISTANT ..:1orglaugh

Again you seem to hallucinate i have "theories" , what "theories" are these ? care to share your hallucinations or just spout more drivel you cant backup because you cant grasp the english language.

Oh well you want to talk about the building (man I swear its a phallic obsession) now lets see 'did it look like controlled demolitions'. Answer: Yes it did. Conclusion: Absolutely none. You are indulging in what is called 'observational science'. i.e. you draw your conclusions from what you observe. Its why mankind believed for thousands of years that the sun revolved around the world because they observed it to be so. Anyone who used math to point out it did not was harrangued as a lunatic talking gibberish and could they frankly get their heads out of their asses and just look at the sun going round the Earth - I mean for fucks sake! Any of this sound familar btw?

In short logic i.e. the building construction, impact of two jets crashing into the buildings, angle of impact, fuel carried, construction materials used etc etc is discarded in favour of a video clip of a puff of smoke below the impact line. How the impact of the jets carried round and down the building, venting at weaker points and so on is ignored because 1) you have seen a puff of smoke and 2) firemen reported seeing flashes. Nothing else matters save what you observe and hearsay reports that fuel your own conviction.

You couple these observations with your own inherent belief in Western superiority ie a bunch of Arabs could not have done this. They are camel fucking turban heads is what your deep rooted subconcious is telling you. Can't be. No way these backward fuckers could do this etc etc.

The kicker is that the reason why you and others like you refuse to accept the obvious explanation is because you prefer to have it done by Western Govts/Shadowy Intelligence Agencies et al because that is more comforting then a bunch of Arabs doing it. It fits in with your westerncentric world view
and ultimately is less frightening and more easier to rationalise.

This thread is littered with examples of why Arabs could not have done this - including 'how could they find NY and the wtc?'. I mean seriously this is what you guys come up with and then rage at us for pointing out the flaws.

It would be funny if it wasn't so pathetic

kenny 03-27-2006 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuckOnThis
Makes perfect sense to me. What better way to destroy evidence than to have it burn for about an hour then have it crashing down 80 stories. Doesnt it occur to anyone why both planes hit the top part of both buildings yet the plane that hit the Pentagon was on ground level? Why wouldnt they try to hit the buildings lower? Seems the terrorists didnt plan on the buildings collapsing so doesnt it make sense that you would fuck up more people by hitting them lower? And if the buildings didnt collapse it wouldnt have been nearly as big of thing as it turned out to be.

This administration had no problem whatsoever lying to invade a country, why wouldnt you put something like this past them?

What evidence would need to be destroyed besides the bombs themselves?

Hollywood Horwitz 03-27-2006 01:20 PM

this is possibly the most informative and well thought post about this subject on GFY,props to all the peeps posting their opinions and theories.

spanky part 2 03-27-2006 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Yucky Smurf
Another amusing thing. The fires were so hot, they warped beams. Oh yes, it was so hot that in video footage broadcasted all over the world, we see a woman ALIVE , looking rather calm UN BURNED, NOT SWEATING, waiting to be rescued.

All the garbage left over was shipped very very very quicky outside the country.

That's funny. When I was allowed to move back into my loft, 3 months later, they were still taking out warped beams that were steaming when they washed them off in front of my building. In case you didn't read it right the first time. They were STEAMING 3 months later.Yep that 10 story pile of rubble was just wisked away real fast.

What a fucking tool you are.

SmokeyTheBear 03-27-2006 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FetishTom
Oh well you want to talk about the building (man I swear its a phallic obsession)

huh ? this thread is about 9/11 and buildings hit by planes.. are you in the wrong thread or something or just a different planet ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by FetishTom
now lets see 'did it look like controlled demolitions'. Answer: Yes it did.

thank you thats exactly what i said

Quote:

Originally Posted by FetishTom
You are indulging in what is called 'observational science'. i.e. you draw your conclusions from what you observe.

actually i didnt draw any conclusions or else you would have quoted them , you did ,..:1orglaugh
Quote:

Originally Posted by FetishTom
In short logic i.e. the building construction, impact of two jets crashing into the buildings, angle of impact, fuel carried, construction materials used etc etc is discarded in favour of a video clip of a puff of smoke below the impact line. How the impact of the jets carried round and down the building, venting at weaker points and so on is ignored because 1) you have seen a puff of smoke and 2) firemen reported seeing flashes. Nothing else matters save what you observe and hearsay reports that fuel your own conviction.

huh again your seem to hallucinate i made some claims about what happened. take your head out of your ass for a second and learn to read..
Quote:

Originally Posted by FetishTom

You couple these observations with your own inherent belief in Western superiority ie a bunch of Arabs could not have done this. They are camel fucking turban heads is what your deep rooted subconcious is telling you. Can't be. No way these backward fuckers could do this etc etc.

blah blah blah , again your assinine assumtions make you look completely inept and incapable of understand basic english. First you assume im "western" then you assume im a racist who would talk about arabs in a disparaging fashion , and to top it off you assume how i feel LOL thats alot of false assumption man , no offense but your making yourself look even stupider ( if thats possible ) :1orglaugh

Quote:

Originally Posted by FetishTom

This thread is littered with examples of why Arabs could not have done this - including 'how could they find NY and the wtc?'.

thus anyone with a question must think arabs didnt do it..

i'll add that one on your growing list of fetishtoms inability to comprehend basic english and assinine assumptions 101

Splum 03-27-2006 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KRL
The only conspiracy is the fact that a bunch of ultra rich industrialists got together at a country club after 9/11 to figure out how they could make money from using the event for their own trillion dollar financial gain.

BINGO! We have a winner. Why doesnt anyone else listen to KRL?

FetishTom 03-27-2006 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Splum
BINGO! We have a winner. Why doesnt anyone else listen to KRL?

Because he talks sense and that is no way as much fun, plus a lot of people are in denial and do not even read any thread that makes sense!

dynastoned 03-27-2006 01:46 PM

suddenly we have a bunch of aeronautical crash experts and structural engineers here on GFY. shit i thought i was the only one... lol

FetishTom 03-27-2006 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
huh ? this thread is about 9/11 and buildings hit by planes.. are you in the wrong thread or something or just a different planet ?

Ah again we have trouble with the concept of humour or in this case whimsy.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
thank you thats exactly what i said

I know it is - as does anyone else reading the post but we appreciate the heads up

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

actually i didnt draw any conclusions or else you would have quoted them , you did ,..:1orglaugh

This bit I love! :thumbsup Good old Smokey still thinks he has 'not drawn any conclusions!'


Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
huh again your seem to hallucinate i made some claims about what happened. take your head out of your ass for a second and learn to read..

And again! Never once claimed anything about what happened. Not once. Never. Nada. Zip. Zilch. God bless this man and all that sail on the good ship Smokey Bear. Ist stop Never never land via the city of denial.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
blah blah blah , again your assinine assumtions make you look completely inept and incapable of understand basic english. First you assume im "western" then you assume im a racist who would talk about arabs in a disparaging fashion , and to top it off you assume how i feel LOL thats alot of false assumption man , no offense but your making yourself look even stupider ( if thats possible ) :1orglaugh

Correct. I assume you to be Western with a westerncentric world view. I still do. And technically its a lot of assumptions - whether they are false assumptions remains to be seen.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
thus anyone with a question must think arabs didnt do it..

That is a non sequitur.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear
i'll add that one on your growing list of fetishtoms inability to comprehend basic english and assinine assumptions 101

You mean 'your' growing list so it should read 'my' as in 'yours' unless of course you meant 'my' growing list and therefore 'your' growing list was in fact grammatically correct but alas factually incorrect.

directfiesta 03-27-2006 02:29 PM

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WTC Steel Removal
The Expeditious Destruction of the Evidence at Ground Zero


Steel was the structural material of the buildings. As such it was the most important evidence to preserve in order to puzzle out how the structures held up to the impacts and fires, but then disintegrated into rubble. Since no steel frame buildings had ever collapsed due to fires, the steel should have been subjected to detailed analysis. So what did the authorities do with this key evidence of the vast crime and unprecedented engineering failure? They recycled it!

Some 185,101 tons of structural steel have been hauled away from Ground Zero. Most of the steel has been recycled as per the city's decision to swiftly send the wreckage to salvage yards in New Jersey. The city's hasty move has outraged many victims' families who believe the steel should have been examined more thoroughly. Last month, fire experts told Congress that about 80% of the steel was scrapped without being examined because investigators did not have the authority to preserve the wreckage. 1

Mayor Bloomberg, a former engineering major, was not concerned about the destruction of the evidence:
If you want to take a look at the construction methods and the design, that's in this day and age what computers do. Just looking at a piece of metal generally doesn't tell you anything.

2

During the official investigation controlled by FEMA, One hundred fifty pieces of steel were saved for future study. One hundred fifty pieces out of hundreds of thousands of pieces! Moreover it is not clear who made the decision to save these particular pieces. It is clear that the volunteer investigators were doing their work at the Fishkills dump, not at Ground Zero, so whatever steel they had access to was first picked over by the people running the cleanup operation.

Highly Sensitive Garbage

Given that the people in charge considered the steel garbage, useless to any investigation in this age of computer simulations, they certainly took pains to make sure it didn't end up anywhere other than a smelting furnace. They installed GPS locater devices on each of the trucks that was carrying loads away from Ground Zero, at a cost of $1000 each. The securitysolutions.com website has an article on the tracking system with this passage.
Ninety-nine percent of the drivers were extremely driven to do their jobs. But there were big concerns, because the loads consisted of highly sensitive material. One driver, for example, took an extended lunch break of an hour and a half. There was nothing criminal about that, but he was dismissed.

3
Shielding Investigators From the Evidence

According to FEMA, more than 350,000 tons of steel were extracted from Ground Zero and barged or trucked to salvage yards where it was cut up for recycling. Four salvage yards were contracted to process the steel.

* Hugo Nue Schnitzer at Fresh Kills (FK) Landfill, Staten Island, NJ
* Hugo Nue Schnitzer's Claremont (CM) Terminal in Jersey City, NJ
* Metal Management in Newark (NW), NJ
* Blanford and Co. in Keasbey (KB), NJ

FEMA's BPAT, who wrote the WTC Building Performance Study, were not given access to Ground Zero. Apparently, they were not even allowed to collect steel samples from the salvage yards. According to Appendix D of the Study, "Collection and storage of steel members from the WTC site was not part of the BPS Team efforts sponsored by FEMA and the American Society of Civil Engineers (ASCE)."


http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/groundzero/cleanup.html

Strange no ? When a fucking lplane crashes, they keep everything, haul it in a hanger and reconstitute the plane to study the possible cause of the crash...

9/11 didn't seem to important enough to keep intact for further study ....


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