Here is a hint. There is more than 2 tanks on a plane.

And B. The metal didnt need to melt, it just need to attain more maliability.

Hold a spoon with some lead sinkers in it with a pair of pliars. Now take a lighter to the thinner part of the spoon and see what happens. The metal wont melt, but the structural integrity of the spoon is comprimised. It doesnt take a rocket scientist.

btw the columns on the wtc buildings run down the center. Once one floor dropped it started a pancake effect that could not be stopped.

If the damage on the right is an impact mark, it would had to have been from the wing.. and in that the wing didn't penetrate the wall, there should be remnants of a wing somewhere.. We're talkin 125' wingspan.. Not even the slightest sign of a wing.. or the tail.. or anything...
and notice the cable spools.. a 757 entering the first floor would have taken those suckers with it..

God fuckin damnit you are stupid. Look right above the car. See the damage going into the building? And enough with the fuckin windows the were explosion proof glass. It was'nt single plate glass from the early 1900's. The building was made to withstand attacks and hurricanes. Enough with it already. Its been beaten more than your tiny cock. GAHH!!! nutjobs... lol :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

I think you are confusing airplanes with tanks. Airplanes have windows, and while I have never been there, pictures of Manhattan make it seem preety big. Should be easy to spot.

The twin towers kind of stood out as I recall.

The wings got folded into the plane as it went into the building at 500mph. Do you know how fast 500mph is? :uhoh

Some of you people really scare me. I knew I shouldn't have clicked this thread.

your thought expirements are very imaginative..but they only hold credence in your mind

dont compare cheap spoons to high grade construction steel

you guys are just grasping at straws so you can continue to go to mcdonalds in the morning buy your blue jeans and think everything is hunky dorey in la la land...i wish i was that able

Obviously he doesn't.

Everyone here is unfortunately missing the point. Arguing about scientific questions (planes, missles, controlled demolitions) is exactly the kind of technical confusion that the powers-that-be want.

Think of it this way - for over 40 years we have had a piece of film (Zapruder) that offers SCREAMING PROOF that President Kennedy was shot in the front, and not in the back of the head by some lone gunman. And what good has that concrete piece of evidence done? The Warren Commission simply rolled out paid scientific shill after scientific shill, even going so far as to present a cockamamie MAGIC BULLET THEORY, a totally outlandish explanation to counteract the obvious. And in the past 40 years, an ENTIRE INDUSTRY in the media has been formed all to convince you of one thing:

YOU DID NOT SEE WHAT YOU THOUGHT YOU SAW.

That is why on 911, Michael Ruppert has it so right - he builds his case SOLELY from government documents and mainstream news reports and totally ignores areas where one would simply pit one expert against another. Not all criminals are put behind bars based on physical evidence. Many have been prosecuted and sentenced based on a preponderence of evidence from sworn statements, eyewitness accounts, irrefutable timelines, etc., etc.

So I will say again, as I have been saying for the past couple of years: READ THIS 696 PAGE BOOK. The case is entirely lined out, point by irrefutable point, and whether the towers were brought down by controlled demolitions or whether no plane hit the Pentagon - IS NEITHER HERE NOR THERE. The case for gov complicity in 911 is overwhelming even without those questions being answered. There is enough just on the public record to prove it:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/086...lance&n=283155

Ya ok so replace the spoon with steel beams and replace the lead sinkers with 15 floors of concrete. And Im sure an explosion like this one

http://www.equipped.com/GRAPHICS/wtc_fireball.jpg

Had no affect on the structual integreity of the building :uhoh

We dont need Kennedy wackjobs in here, we have enough retards at the moment. No one fuckin cares about you and your magic bullet crap. :321GFY

Btw look at the smoke from those two small fires..... :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

I know no one cares. And that is unfortunately why we are in the mess we are in today - on the verge of losing the American Republic to a bunch of criminal fascists.

General Tommy Franks has already been quoted as saying that if a "terror attack" with a WMD happened on American soil, the constitution would likely be scrapped in favor of a military form of government. He's okay with that. And by the looks of it, most Americans would just go along like sleepwalkers.

Of course, people will eventually wake up but if history is any model, by then it will be too late and they will all be crying over spilt milk. As for me, I just like to sit back and watch the show. It's the greatest show on earth and we all get front row seats.

Ya IM sure. I know im real worried, But if it happens Christian Bale will save us one and all!! :thumbsup

http://www.freewebs.com/equilibrium-...atherFinal.jpg

Gen. Franks Doubts Constitution Will Survive WMD Attack
John O. Edwards, NewsMax.com

Friday, Nov. 21, 2003
Gen. Tommy Franks says that if the United States is hit with a weapon of mass destruction that inflicts large casualties, the Constitution will likely be discarded in favor of a military form of government.
Franks, who successfully led the U.S. military operation to liberate Iraq, expressed his worries in an extensive interview he gave to the men?s lifestyle magazine Cigar Aficionado.

In the magazine?s December edition, the former commander of the military?s Central Command warned that if terrorists succeeded in using a weapon of mass destruction (WMD) against the U.S. or one of our allies, it would likely have catastrophic consequences for our cherished republican form of government.

Discussing the hypothetical dangers posed to the U.S. in the wake of Sept. 11, Franks said that ?the worst thing that could happen? is if terrorists acquire and then use a biological, chemical or nuclear weapon that inflicts heavy casualties.

If that happens, Franks said, ?... the Western world, the free world, loses what it cherishes most, and that is freedom and liberty we?ve seen for a couple of hundred years in this grand experiment that we call democracy.?


http://www.newsmax.com/archives/arti...0/185048.shtml

"grand experiment" that is all that democracy amounts to in the minds of these power-hungry fascist elites. They are taking us all down on the express freight elevator ta hell.

Yeeehaaaaa!

Just a note. Tommy Franks is retired. Also are you a commie?

I know Franks is NOW retired. But he was one of the highest-placed officials to come out and point blank state that the constitution would be scrapped.

I'm not a commie but maybe Franks is. Anyone who advocates the scrapping of the US constitution is either a commie or a fascist (or both!)

It is truly sad to see how stupid so many people are. People who believe the US government has the organization or cohesiveness to pull off a massive conspiracy of this magnitude obviously do not have even a passing familiarity with the way US government works (or does not work) in the real world. It is a shame that our educational system has failed so badly that any crank theory no matter how preposterous can become accepted by a gullible and uneducated public. It makes me fear for the future when I see the level of stupidity and ignorance which has become seemingly commonplace in our society.

It's clear you can't handle a debate with out resulting in calling people names.. Grow up. You only show your own stupidity by acting like a child.

Until you can act like an adult, it's worthless even respond to your posts..

BTW.. if everyone is such wackjobs in this thread, why do you keep responding?

I'm afraid the reverse is true. You have not dug deep enough and are content to eat up the "bumbling bear" explanation of how the government works.

Look at it from a different perspective - any country that completely rules the entire world, for decades, with the most powerful military machine in the history of mankind, KNOWS EXACTLY what it is doing. The incompetence theory does not hold water.

Even in New Orleans, what happened there is exactly what the government wanted. FEMA was caught red handed trying to CUT communications lines. It was a dry run for Martial Law, as Karl Rove was quoted as saying.

You have absolutely ZERO clue what you are talking about. Because you peck it away on your keyboard, does not make it true.

I'm afraid the reverse is true. Your idiocy borders on insanity.

Why do I keep responding? Ill tell you why. To help irradicate the complacintcy of those who do not respond. The whole reason these "theories" get traction is because people who know better dont say "what the fuck is wrong with you?" enough. No repsponse =s agreement to wackos like you.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Right... you are the beacon of light and all knowing

I'm afraid the reverse is true. Wean yourself off such literary classics as THE CAT IN THE HAT and try absorbing something scholarly.

Read this 696 page book from Michael Ruppert, who recently briefed congress:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/086...lance&n=283155

Few million candles will surely light the darkest brain.. err room. Cant not respond hoping others will do it for me. Thats the lefties that think that way, not I.

So in other words you voted for Bush? Yea that explains a lot..

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh
How true!!! :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

best post of the day! =)

http://www.alternet.org/story/12536/

Read it son.

Proudly twice. In fact I campaigned for him and am an RNC card carrying member. :winkwink: :winkwink:

http://www.icedradio.com/DSCN2283s.jpg

The morons here that go with a conspiracy theory are dicks of the highest order.

I'm an outsider looking in so I am not influenced by Bush negativity or political emotions.

For fuck sake, some fool here said you couldn't fly a big machine and find the target. I was in a plane that was lost in bad weather and we found the target 300 kilometres away as fucking novices. Finding those two large buildings would been simple. In fact blind freddy would have found them.

Guys, it did happen. It was easy to pull off and the only fucking conspiracy was the arabs getting together to pull off this monstrosity.

Get a fucking life. I bet the clots here that go with the Bush conspiracy are shitting themselves that the bird flu is going to get them. I bet they think this is a conspiracy as well.

Stop feeding this bullshit up in a porn forum.

Lyn from Oz

Yep.. let's do that...
In the history of steel framed buidlings, none have ever collapsed due to fire...
The 1991 Meridian Plaza fire burned for 19 hours and flames came from dozens of windows on many floors. It did not collapse.

Yet here we have 3 buildings.. all collapsing in freefall manner within a short period of each other.. The north tower's fire lasted only 16 minutes.. The fires in the South Tower and WTC-7 were small.

WTC-7 was unharmed by an airplane and had only minor fires on the seventh and twelfth floors of the 47-story steel building yet it collapsed in less than 10 seconds.
WTC-5 and WTC-6 had raging fires but did not collapse despite much thinner steel beams..
Each collapse produced molten steel identical to that generated by explosives, resulting in "hot spots" that persisted for months (the two hottest spots at WTC-2 and WTC-7 were approximately 1,350o F five days after being continuously flooded with water, a temperature high enough to melt aluminum.. Jet fuel, no matter its form, cannot burn or cause anything else to burn to a temperature that would cause this to happen...

Oh wait.. I forgot.. We're not supposed to factor these things in.. We're just supposed to accept what the gov't folks say and go on about our bidness..

The only 3 buildings in the history of framed structures to freefall due to fire.. DAMN that's amazing... :)

I am well aware of David Corn of The Nation fame. He has been outed as a shill for the establishment and a 99% likely CIA asset.

Google Operation Mockingbird

It hasnt on numerous other occasions planes have hit buildings , and these werent normal buildings , they were EACH built specifically to withstand TWO planes hitting them.

I guess they shouldnt have built them to withstand planes hitting them , because buildings that ARENT built to withstand planes , seem to be perfectly fine , but building MADE for withstanding planes , just collapse.. and cause buildings nearby to also collapse..

Wow.. I'm impressed by your knowledge.. I better go email the physicists, scientists, and high rise architects and let them know that you say they have zero clue.. I'm sure they'll change their way of thinking and throw their phd's in the garbage..
I'll be sure to tell them that the 60 ton plane turned to jello so their 'conspiracy theories' can be put to rest...

hey wonton just ordered that book :thumbsup

WTF does the amount of fuel tanks have to do with anything? A 767 carries roughly 23,000 gallons of fuel, regardless of how may tanks. A plane like that is not fully loaded with fuel flying from the east coast to the west coast, not with a range of 6,600 miles.

And dude, holding a lighter to a fucking spoon doesnt do anything but make it black. That is one of the funniest things I've ever heard. And you call other people stupid? :1orglaugh