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demon100 · 01-17-2006, 01:25 AM

Against all terrorists lol

kenny · 01-17-2006, 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Webby

Would this upset your applecart and the basis of human existance as you know it if everyone did the same?

No it wouldn't effect the world as I know it.

It would effect the world as WE know it.

kenny · 01-17-2006, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Manga1

You still haven't answered my question. If you are a resident of a country and pay taxes, follow laws, and are accounted for in the sense that the government knows who you are and that you exist, then why do you need citizenship?

Why can't I have my own sovereign nation?

Webby · 01-17-2006, 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by leggs

He can have dual citizenship. That's NOT a problem and it has been offered to him. Many times!

He does NOT want ANY citizenship at all. Not Canadian, French, British, American or any. He wants the right to be stateless.

Ah.. That sounds kinda interesting leggs!

Gotta say I never thought of that angle yet and interesting to see it is possible.

Webby · 01-17-2006, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by kenny

Why can't I have my own sovereign nation?

Cos you'd just mess it up.

leggs · 01-17-2006, 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Webby

Ah.. That sounds kinda interesting leggs!

Gotta say I never thought of that angle yet and interesting to see it is possible.

Well...
He thinks he is a "Freedom Fighter."

I think he is wasting time and money.

Manga1 · 01-17-2006, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by kenny

Why can't I have my own sovereign nation?

Because you are not free.

kenny · 01-17-2006, 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Webby

Cos you'd just mess it up.

It would be mine - so who gives a fuck?

Tell me then - why can't anybody just create their own nation?

Webby · 01-17-2006, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by kenny

No it wouldn't effect the world as I know it.

It would effect the world as WE know it.

It sure would not affect the world as I know it... Can't speak for you.

Ironically the same "no tax" regime seems to do better or equal to major economies when it comes to basics like health and education. There may be a lesson in that for ya.

leggs · 01-17-2006, 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by leggs

"It's my life and I will live it where I want and how I want. I will live it free and not be owned by anyone or anything."

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Originally Posted by Manga1

I like the way your husband thinks.

Great words....
But expensive and time consuming.

But that's my opinion not his.

Webby · 01-17-2006, 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by kenny

It would be mine - so who gives a fuck?

Cos ya can't be trusted not to screw it up. It's called being grown up.

kenny · 01-17-2006, 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Manga1

Because you are not free.

I'm not in a prison

My passport is in the next room - I can travel anywhere in the free world.

I'm as free as you can possibly be in the developed world.

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kenny · 01-17-2006, 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Webby

Cos ya can't be trusted not to screw it up. It's called being grown up.

Whatever - you totally missed the point.

kenny · 01-17-2006, 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Webby

It sure would not affect the world as I know it... Can't speak for you.

Ironically the same "no tax" regime seems to do better or equal to major economies when it comes to basics like health and education. There may be a lesson in that for ya.

Give me a break. If nobody paid taxes I know of atleast one country that will fall apart.

And the results of that would be more then enough to cripple the world economy

kenny · 01-17-2006, 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Webby

Cos ya can't be trusted not to screw it up. It's called being grown up.

You can't be trusted to have NO citizenship or recongized nationality - you need to be monitored

How is that for reverse psychology

Webby · 01-17-2006, 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by leggs

Well...
He thinks he is a "Freedom Fighter."

I think he is wasting time and money.

If it's an ambition and he's got time and money for his "hobby", hell, good luck to him!

There are a growing number of people obviously intent in either moving out of what may be described as "civilized countries" and to places with more freedoms and other benefits. Some obviously become nationals and others just residents, but the underlying reasons seem somewhat the same as your husbands aims ie "escape from civilization".

Webby · 01-17-2006, 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by kenny

Give me a break. If nobody paid taxes I know of atleast one country that will fall apart.

And the results of that would be more then enough to cripple the world economy

That's a pity. Then ya need to change it and build fences up to keep folks escaping and keep them at home to pay taxes.

Can you stop trolling the thread with bullshit comments? There might be some "would you hit it" threads around elsewhere to distract ya.

baddog · 01-17-2006, 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by PostWhore

read the post reject

i said pay taxes if you live outside all your life

Are you trying to imply that if you don't live here and are not an American citizen you have to pay taxes to us? WTF are you talking about?

kenny · 01-17-2006, 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Webby

That's a pity. Then ya need to change it and build fences up to keep folks escaping and keep them at home to pay taxes.

Can you stop trolling the thread with bullshit comments? There might be some "would you hit it" threads around elsewhere to distract ya.

unbelievable

You really don't have a clue.

It's obvious that reality is on my side

The only bullshit comments I see bro - are yours

Have fun constructing this dream world of yours in your head. Because that is the only place you're ever going to see it.

It really does sound like quite the place. A world with no taxes and all.

I don't know if you were trying to be funny - but thanks for the laugh

Webby · 01-17-2006, 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by kenny

Have fun constructing this dream world of yours in your head. Because that is the only place you're ever going to see it.

It really does sound like quite the place. A world with no taxes and all.

Oh God.. who breeds them.

I live in what you designated this dream world idiot - and see it every day and do not pay taxes for the reason already stated. Are you totally dumb that you just don't comprehend??

I never suggested anything about the world taxation system and don't give a fuck about it either.

Go and find a "would you hit it" thread and don't try to be the world's economist.. it's embarassing.

kenny · 01-17-2006, 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Webby

Oh God.. who breeds them.

I live in what you designated this dream world idiot - and see it every day and do not pay taxes for the reason already stated. Are you totally dumb that you just don't comprehend??

I never suggested anything about the world taxation system and don't give a fuck about it either.

Go and find a "would you hit it" thread and don't try to be the world's economist.. it's embarassing.

keep twisting and turning bro - it's obviously your best defense

That and cheap high-schoolish insults

I wasted enough of my time on your complete nonsense.

Have a good one

Webby · 01-17-2006, 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by kenny

That and cheap high-schoolish insults

Here's another.. cos anything else is beyond ya.

Repeat after me... "I need to find a would you hit it thread"....

Now find one and avoid trying to give a critique on how you'd hit it.

Sarah_Jayne · 01-17-2006, 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Are you trying to imply that if you don't live here and are not an American citizen you have to pay taxes to us? WTF are you talking about?

If you earn any American money then you have to pay taxes on it. Heck, they wanted to tax my husband's earnings at one point and he was not Amerian or earned any American money in his lifetime but since he contributed to my household income they wanted him to pay taxes. He told them to go jump in a lake and call the British Embassy if they wanted to force the issue and they left it.

leggs · 01-17-2006, 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by kenny

Give me a break. If nobody paid taxes I know of atleast one country that will fall apart.

And the results of that would be more then enough to cripple the world economy

You know someone has to explain to me this concept of "Goverment runs out of money."

From where I sit it kind of looks like this...

1) Goverment prints and issues the money.

2) It circulates it to the general public via various venues.

3) It's international value is determined on the goverment's stabilty.

I mean since they make the stuff.
They dump the stuff on the public.
And they control all the resources within their border that determines the value

Now is it just me or does the entire idea of kicking back a few bucks seem strange?

It's like going to Business Depot buying 1,000 business cards... and then having to give back 150. So they can use it to give the next guy.

Webby · 01-17-2006, 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by sarah_webinc

If you earn any American money then you have to pay taxes on it. Heck, they wanted to tax my husband's earnings at one point and he was not Amerian or earned any American money in his lifetime but since he contributed to my household income they wanted him to pay taxes. He told them to go jump in a lake and call the British Embassy if they wanted to force the issue and they left it.

Now that is funny Sarah!!

I notice all my US friends always seem to earn something like $79,995/year when they live outside the US. It's obviously a coincidence or a quaint custom.

Webby · 01-17-2006, 03:47 AM

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Originally Posted by leggs

You know someone has to explain to me this concept of "Goverment runs out of money."

Just don't ask here leggs ... you may get offers of an explanation from the GFY Fiscal Policy and Economist Unit

Seriously... agree. As long as a govt can keep their act together and not crumble, they retain a monetory status of some kind as long as there is paper and ink.

kenny · 01-17-2006, 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by leggs

You know someone has to explain to me this concept of "Goverment runs out of money."

From where I sit it kind of looks like this...

1) Goverment prints and issues the money.

2) It circulates it to the general public via various venues.

3) It's international value is determined on the goverment's stabilty.

I mean since they make the stuff.
They dump the stuff on the public.
And they control all the resources within their border that determines the value

Now is it just me or does the entire idea of kicking back a few bucks seem strange?

It's like going to Business Depot buying 1,000 business cards... and then having to give back 150. So they can use it to give the next guy.

I'm afraid it just doesn't work that way.

Contrary to what Webby says it's more complicated then that. They need to maintain a elastic currency.

leggs · 01-17-2006, 04:29 AM

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Originally Posted by kenny

I'm afraid it just doesn't work that way.

Contrary to what Webby says it's more complicated then that. They need to maintain a elastic currency.

Buddy,

I don't mean to sound offensive...
But based on your previous comments.

I'm going to wait for the GFY Monetary and Fiscal department to explain to me how all this stuff works.

kenny · 01-17-2006, 04:33 AM

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Originally Posted by leggs

Buddy,

I don't mean to sound offensive...
But based on your previous comments.

I'm going to wait for the GFY Monetary and Fiscal department to explain to me how all this stuff works.

Go ahead.

I hope somebody is willing to take the time to teach you..

But I'm telling you that it simply doesn't work that way

leggs · 01-17-2006, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by kenny

Go ahead.

I hope somebody is willing to take the time to teach you..

But I'm telling you that it simply doesn't work that way

Perhaps,
But I'm pretty certain that you don't know how it works either.

Marshal · 01-17-2006, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by PostWhore

i just found out that To get USA citizenship you have to fingerprint ??? ahhahaahah how democratic!!

what's so special about that? everyone else do that too...

Sarah_Jayne · 01-17-2006, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by nettrust

what's so special about that? everyone else do that too...

they don't..again i didn't need to to be British but I would have had no problem giving it if they asked

CherryLipsRosa · 01-17-2006, 11:24 AM

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