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JMM · 01-05-2006, 06:11 PM

I just spoke to the one employee I sent to internext this year. I felt one employee was enough. I was wrong. One employee was one employee too many.

This is his 7th year attending internext and he feels that it is by far the worst show he has been to.

My advice to you AVN is that you immediately fire the person responsible for scheduling this show at the same time as your other show, and CES. If you can make sure that this person never works in the trade show industry again, that would be a plus.

BIG MISTAKE. In addition to jacked up room rates, focus is spread too thin.

Now I have to spend the evening figuring out how to get the hotel to refund a night or two of his hotel stay so I can get him the hell out of there and back home were he can be productive.

Makingcoin · 01-05-2006, 06:15 PM

I heard a 2 hour wait for cabs too?

sonofsam · 01-05-2006, 06:15 PM

I just got off the phone with AVN, they said they will compensate you by sending GAYVN flyers with a bunch of guys touching eachother to your parents house, grandparents house, your kids school, your local church, your local gas station and everything within a 20 mile radius of your home.

JMM · 01-05-2006, 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonofsam

I just got off the phone with AVN, they said they will compensate you by sending GAYVN flyers with a bunch of guys touching eachother to your parents house, grandparents house, your kids school, your local church, your local gas station and everything within a 20 mile radius of your home.

They already do that. See if you can get them to compensate me some other way.

eroswebmaster · 01-05-2006, 06:17 PM

I live here in Vegas and I knew this show would be a clusterfuck so I chose not to attend.

NaughtyRob · 01-05-2006, 06:21 PM

Yeah, exactly the reason I didnt go there today even though I bought a pass. I may not go at all.

tony286 · 01-05-2006, 06:24 PM

tomorrow doesnt it open up to fans and it will get worse ? more and more the phoenix show seems to be the one to go to.

sonofsam · 01-05-2006, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by JMM

They already do that. See if you can get them to compensate me some other way.

i just got off the phone with them again, and they said they will compensate you next year by upping the badge price another 500.. and they are also going to hold it at the same time as the million man march.. and are setting up the booths in the middle of the road where the million man march is going to take place

NY_TIM · 01-05-2006, 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JMM

I just spoke to the one employee I sent to internext this year. I felt one employee was enough. I was wrong. One employee was one employee too many.

This is his 7th year attending internext and he feels that it is by far the worst show he has been to.

My advice to you AVN is that you immediately fire the person responsible for scheduling this show at the same time as your other show, and CES. If you can make sure that this person never works in the trade show industry again, that would be a plus.

BIG MISTAKE. In addition to jacked up room rates, focus is spread too thin.

Now I have to spend the evening figuring out how to get the hotel to refund a night or two of his hotel stay so I can get him the hell out of there and back home were he can be productive.

That sucksss

JMM · 01-05-2006, 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonofsam

i just got off the phone with them again, and they said they will compensate you next year by upping the badge price another 500.. and they are also going to hold it at the same time as the million man march.. and are setting up the booths in the middle of the road where the million man march is going to take place

There is nothing as funny as reality. I believe every word you are saying.

eroswebmaster · 01-05-2006, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404

tomorrow doesnt it open up to fans and it will get worse ? more and more the phoenix show seems to be the one to go to.

shhhhhh

seeric · 01-05-2006, 06:30 PM

i'm going to vegas to see my friends and take some money from the poker room. i've written this show off productivity wise. normally i smash it on the marketing and promotional level. this time i am going bare bones and just gonna spend the weekend with friends.

Sly · 01-05-2006, 06:31 PM

The end of the Internext Empire!

Shit, Phoenix is going to be a zoo this year.

SilentKnight · 01-05-2006, 06:33 PM

rotfl @ sonofsam's comments.

Doctor Dre · 01-05-2006, 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JMM

They already do that. See if you can get them to compensate me some other way.

Why do you think he said that ...

Brother Bareback · 01-05-2006, 06:34 PM

i wonder how many more threads there will be about this in the coming days? hahaha

seeric · 01-05-2006, 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly

The end of the Internext Empire!

Shit, Phoenix is going to be a zoo this year.

i cant wait. i love that show and i am also looking forward to costa rica.

i like vegas and internext, i just hate it that ces is there with it.

Doctor Dre · 01-05-2006, 06:35 PM

I have a pass, ticks and invitations to partys, a hotel room I can stay in (my friend got a 2 place room) and I decided to wait to see how it will be... I was sick anyawys. I'm glad I didn't go... I knew I probably wasn't going . Fucking mess

tony286 · 01-05-2006, 06:36 PM

did anyone go see Bill gates speak yesterday the google guys will be talking friday.

JMM · 01-05-2006, 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doctor Dre

Why do you think he said that ...

I know why he said that, I was just trying to come up with something better than "bump"

sonofsam · 01-05-2006, 06:38 PM

btw, avn also said next year they will be making all the attendees wear these masks

they understand they may cause some discomfort, and are not too cosmetically appealing, but they modified gas masks and converted that little box on the right side of the mask, into a computer to track how many breaths you take while on the showroom floor

each breath willl cost 35 cents

people with athsma will get a discounted 30 cents per breath

*p.s. thank you donovan philips for being the model.

Brother Bareback · 01-05-2006, 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404

the google guys will be talking friday.

now THAT i wish I was there for...

seeric · 01-05-2006, 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonofsam

btw, avn also said next year they will be making all the attendees wear these masks

they understand they may cause some discomfort, and are not too cosmetically appealing, but they modified gas masks and converted that little box on the right side of the mask, into a computer to track how many breaths you take while on the showroom floor

each breath willl cost 35 cents

people with athsma will get a discounted 30 cents per breath

*p.s. thank you donovan philips for being the model.

dude you kill me sometimes.

Donny · 01-05-2006, 07:28 PM

LOL at sos's comment to me. you're a riot.

CashLikeWhoa_Mike · 01-05-2006, 08:08 PM

I thought the summer show in August in Florida sucked donkey balls with their tight security and registrants-only-on-the-hotel-property policy.

So this thread shows that the downward spiral continues.

pretty soon NOBODY will be attending internext in Florida or Vegas. the smaller regional shows will emerge as the ones to attend.

Gabriel · 01-05-2006, 08:08 PM

What are the chances of AVN combining both shows?

Hue G. Pness · 01-05-2006, 08:19 PM

The shows have not been good for a few years. Mostly a bunch of fat drunk slobs stalking the floor for pictures with hired models and begging for free shirts. The show is good outside the show floor though. Smaller parties and invite only events. The show floor itself is just a headache.

RRRED · 01-05-2006, 08:19 PM

I wonder how the cell phone service is there right now. How many extra people are in vegas? What are the numbers?

Hi JMM

seeric · 01-05-2006, 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RRRED

I wonder how the cell phone service is there right now. How many extra people are in vegas? What are the numbers?

Hi JMM

oh fuck, thats why i am getting everyones voicemail, they are downstairs too. fuck. in the basement of the sands right?

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 01-05-2006, 08:40 PM

seeric · 01-05-2006, 08:48 PM

alienq invented crying babies.

BoyAlley · 01-05-2006, 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonofsam

i just got off the phone with them again, and they said they will compensate you next year by upping the badge price another 500.. and they are also going to hold it at the same time as the million man march.. and are setting up the booths in the middle of the road where the million man march is going to take place

$tandaman · 01-05-2006, 10:41 PM

I would really like to hear the AVN response, as we were exhibiting. We had no more then 30 people pass through the booth today, if this keeps up, the costs will be about 100/person passing by.

I think my odds in roulette will be better then on the Internext showfloor in making money.

Doctor Dre · 01-05-2006, 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by $tandaman

I would really like to hear the AVN response, as we were exhibiting. We had no more then 30 people pass through the booth today, if this keeps up, the costs will be about 100/person passing by.

I think my odds in roulette will be better then on the Internext showfloor in making money.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAH
People were so scared to hate on AVN ... a couple peep started doing it, they kept fucking up and didn't listen. Now that's where they are.

RRRED · 01-05-2006, 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by $tandaman

I would really like to hear the AVN response, as we were exhibiting. We had no more then 30 people pass through the booth today, if this keeps up, the costs will be about 100/person passing by.

I think my odds in roulette will be better then on the Internext showfloor in making money.

That's amazing.. I think everyone should count like that tomorrow and the next day. Do you know whether they were actual adult industry people? or CES people wanting a badge so they can get into all the parties they've heard about and see a tit or two?

tony286 · 01-05-2006, 10:45 PM

THey are in the basement? Who made that deal?

$tandaman · 01-05-2006, 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RRRED

That's amazing.. I think everyone should count like that tomorrow and the next day. Do you know whether they were actual adult industry people? or CES people wanting a badge so they can get into all the parties they've heard about and see a tit or two?

No surfers so far, unless there were the people just walking by.

I will actually do the count tomorrow, just to be sure.
I wonder if AVN could get us statistics for actual registrations for INTERNEXT specifically.

This show so far is a complete waste of effort and money.

CashLikeWhoa_Mike · 01-06-2006, 04:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by $tandaman

I would really like to hear the AVN response, as we were exhibiting. We had no more then 30 people pass through the booth today, if this keeps up, the costs will be about 100/person passing by.

I think my odds in roulette will be better then on the Internext showfloor in making money.

damn stan, really sorry to hear your company wasted its money because you do good work.

sounds like a horrible ROI right now.

maybe it will get better over the next couple of days, but i doubt it.....

uno · 01-06-2006, 04:24 AM

They can't continue like this.

xtc-studios · 01-06-2006, 05:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Makingcoin

I heard a 2 hour wait for cabs too?

2 hours? OH my...that sucks

DamageX · 01-06-2006, 05:29 AM

This may sound harsh, but... How about everyone starts charging back fees for passes, badges, booths and whatever else that's been paid directly to AVN? That will certainly teach them not to fuck with people's hard-earned money and precious time.

Sarah_Jayne · 01-06-2006, 05:41 AM

Sounds like I was right to opt for Phoenix again this year. Going to get my registration in for that early though.

JFK · 01-06-2006, 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RRRED

I wonder how the cell phone service is there right now. How many extra people are in vegas? What are the numbers?

Hi JMM

the cell phone service sucks a bunch, but everything else is good. For the haters, the show next year has been re scheduled for early march and its at the Mandalay Bay

TheLegacy · 01-06-2006, 08:35 AM

I had alot of people criticize me for not wanting to go to Internext this year because I felt it had no focus and was going to be shitty for business. I can use the money now to go to a few smaller venues - but I didn't know that it was going to be that bad.

Sarah_Jayne · 01-06-2006, 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JFK

the cell phone service sucks a bunch, but everything else is good. For the haters, the show next year has been re scheduled for early march and its at the Mandalay Bay

so..the same month as Phoenix? Interesting.

dropped9 · 01-06-2006, 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A1R3K

alienq invented crying babies.

JMM · 01-06-2006, 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JFK

the cell phone service sucks a bunch, but everything else is good. For the haters, the show next year has been re scheduled for early march and its at the Mandalay Bay

It's not about hating. It's more about a company that is so arrogant that they refuse to listen to their customers.

"Don't tell us what you want, we will tell you what you want."

JMM · 01-06-2006, 09:29 AM

P.S. Hi RRRed

xNetworx · 01-06-2006, 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JMM

It's not about hating. It's more about a company that is so arrogant that they refuse to listen to their customers.

"Don't tell us what you want, we will tell you what you want."

I concur... nobody here is "hating" on AVN. they aren't jealous of he money AVN is raking in, they are pissed that its a lousy event for business.

TheLegacy · 01-06-2006, 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pimpporn

I concur... nobody here is "hating" on AVN. they aren't jealous of he money AVN is raking in, they are pissed that its a lousy event for business.

very true - I think AVN is an excellent company and there is no hate here - after years of great events, this one appears that not enough thought went into it from the 'webmasters point of view' - thats all. I'm sure on paper it looked smart and reasonable, but in practice - just not happening.

01-05-2006, 06:11 PM	#1
JMM Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 1,755	Dear AVN: I just spoke to the one employee I sent to internext this year. I felt one employee was enough. I was wrong. One employee was one employee too many. This is his 7th year attending internext and he feels that it is by far the worst show he has been to. My advice to you AVN is that you immediately fire the person responsible for scheduling this show at the same time as your other show, and CES. If you can make sure that this person never works in the trade show industry again, that would be a plus. BIG MISTAKE. In addition to jacked up room rates, focus is spread too thin. Now I have to spend the evening figuring out how to get the hotel to refund a night or two of his hotel stay so I can get him the hell out of there and back home were he can be productive.

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Donny As you wish... Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 13,754	LOL at sos's comment to me. you're a riot.

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RRRED Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: WA Posts: 6,754	I wonder how the cell phone service is there right now. How many extra people are in vegas? What are the numbers? Hi JMM

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