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Old 11-08-2005, 02:24 AM   #101
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You can survive still without her dude. You got your kids to give you support and to love you. You'll get over this in the right time and I just wish that you would find a better one that will love you forever.
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Old 11-08-2005, 01:29 PM   #102
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Today I met with my lawyer and Seperation papers are being drawn as we speak. My wife agreed to give me Sole custody, she agreed that me and the kids is in their best interest, and she has agreed to supervised visitations for six months to give the kids time to heal without introducing the new guy. She also stated that in six months if our kids counselor still doesnt agree that it is in the kids best interest to introduce the new guy then she will not. She told me that she wants the kids to have a stable life and that she is not able to give them that. Papers will be signed by the end of the week and later in the month a judge will sign them. Right now my tactic is to keep her in agreement! But if she changes her mind she knows that I have her where I want her and that she is in a battle that my lawyers says in unlikely that she will not win. Each day that goes by that she does not see the kids hurts her more and more. I feel confident and most of all I am getting over the bitch. Its all about the kids not her or myself. Oh yeah the company I work for told me to spend what I needed to get the kids surely there is a limit but they are great people and I am very thankful. Thanks guys for all the advice and I have read every post including the fucked up ones.

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Old 11-08-2005, 02:19 PM   #103
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Today I met with my lawyer and Seperation papers are being drawn as we speak. My wife agreed to give me Sole custody, she agreed that me and the kids is in their best interest, and she has agreed to supervised visitations for six months to give the kids time to heal without introducing the new guy. She also stated that in six months if our kids counselor still doesnt agree that it is in the kids best interest to introduce the new guy then she will not. She told me that she wants the kids to have a stable life and that she is not able to give them that. Papers will be signed by the end of the week and later in the month a judge will sign them. Right now my tactic is to keep her in agreement! But if she changes her mind she knows that I have her where I want her and that she is in a battle that my lawyers says in unlikely that she will not win. Each day that goes by that she does not see the kids hurts her more and more. I feel confident and most of all I am getting over the bitch. Its all about the kids not her or myself. Oh yeah the company I work for told me to spend what I needed to get the kids surely there is a limit but they are great people and I am very thankful. Thanks guys for all the advice and I have read every post including the fucked up ones.

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this is the 3rd breakup or whatever I've heard in as many days. Yours, mine and another friend who just got separated. Tis the season...
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Old 11-08-2005, 05:35 PM   #105
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When I thought I couldnt be more hurt I was proven wrong. I have found out the same story from her father and best friend. She told these people that I was physically abusing her. She must really be ashamed to have to tell such a LIE. I have never hurt my wife. This bitch is EVIL!
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Old 11-08-2005, 05:51 PM   #106
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I feel so horribly for you and my heart aches for your kids. It sounds like they are in great hands, but I know they are so confused and missing their mother.

Her excuse to her family of abuse shouldn't hold up well. I'm sure she's saying it to try to not look so bad to them. No good mom would EVER leave their kids with an abusive person... so this would mean, more than likely, that she's either lying or doesn't care about them... or both.

I wish you and your children the best.
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Old 11-08-2005, 06:14 PM   #107
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I feel so horribly for you and my heart aches for your kids. It sounds like they are in great hands, but I know they are so confused and missing their mother.

Her excuse to her family of abuse shouldn't hold up well. I'm sure she's saying it to try to not look so bad to them. No good mom would EVER leave their kids with an abusive person... so this would mean, more than likely, that she's either lying or doesn't care about them... or both.

I wish you and your children the best.
I am so confused I do not understand her; this is not my wife's nature. My wife was a terriffic mother and was always a good house keeper. There really seems to be no logical explanation other than drugs. The most important things is that I was able to get a lawyer and start the proceedings. The kids are safe and are getting regular counseling for their pain.
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Old 11-08-2005, 06:18 PM   #108
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If she leaves her kids for more than I think it is like 72 hours or something then she has technically abandoned them. You can have full custody.

As a woman, I find it reprehensible that she would leave her kids. And I really am sorry for you too. I don't know the whole story, if you guys had been having problems for a long time and it was time to end it or what. But any woman that leaves her kids is scum.
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Old 11-08-2005, 06:23 PM   #109
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I am so confused I do not understand her; this is not my wife's nature. My wife was a terriffic mother and was always a good house keeper. There really seems to be no logical explanation other than drugs. The most important things is that I was able to get a lawyer and start the proceedings. The kids are safe and are getting regular counseling for their pain.
I'm sure the fact that she was a terrific mother makes it even harder for y'all. When you said that, the first thing that came to mind was meth. I've seen that shit destroy many lives and it is one of the few things I can think of that, in a short time, can turn a good person into an evil, self centered, uncaring piece of shit. I certainly hope this isn't the case.

It's good that you've got the ball rolling with the lawyer and it's great to hear that you're doing whatever you can to make this a little easier for your kids.
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If she leaves her kids for more than I think it is like 72 hours or something then she has technically abandoned them. You can have full custody.

As a woman, I find it reprehensible that she would leave her kids. And I really am sorry for you too. I don't know the whole story, if you guys had been having problems for a long time and it was time to end it or what. But any woman that leaves her kids is scum.
Not only did she leave them but she also violated our marriage by leaving with another man. I am a very honest and faithful man and she has hurt me like no one other ever has. She is no good and will regret her actions once her party phase gets old. She blew a good thing we were moving together to Oregon and were going to build a new house and start a new life with the great success I have received with my employment. It is her lose and she will realize that she lost a good man.
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I'm sure the fact that she was a terrific mother makes it even harder for y'all. When you said that, the first thing that came to mind was meth. I've seen that shit destroy many lives and it is one of the few things I can think of that, in a short time, can turn a good person into an evil, self centered, uncaring piece of shit. I certainly hope this isn't the case.

It's good that you've got the ball rolling with the lawyer and it's great to hear that you're doing whatever you can to make this a little easier for your kids.
This brought tears to my eyes when I read this because rumor is that the guy she is with is a methhead. And according to her cousin he had offered it to her but she refused. How do people act while on this drug? Are they wired all the time? She nevers seems dopey when I talk to her. Is it a short high? I need to research this. Her friend said she had been worried because she noticed a change in her.
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This brought tears to my eyes when I read this because rumor is that the guy she is with is a methhead. And according to her cousin he had offered it to her but she refused. How do people act while on this drug? Are they wired all the time? She nevers seems dopey when I talk to her. Is it a short high? I need to research this. Her friend said she had been worried because she noticed a change in her.
Things I've noticed about people on meth...

more outgoing than usual/excessive talking
increased sex drive (while on it)
no appetite/weight loss
increased irritablity and aggression
nervous energy
lack of sleep (can go days without it but crash hard when they are done)
moodiness
paranoia, suspicious and accusatory
loss of interest in things that were previously enjoyed or important

I'll probably think of some more later.

You may also want to check this link http://www.stopmeth.com/signs.htm

I hope you find your answers.
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Old 11-08-2005, 06:50 PM   #113
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If she's not going to fight it, you just need documents drawn up. It shouldn't cost that much to have a lawyer do it. Really, very little. It gets costly when people fight it.

You might consider contacting your local University's Law college and asking if any of their students can help provide something at minimal or no cost.

The reason why this is important is you don't want this coming back to haunt you later. She decides a few years down the line that her new life isn't all it's cracked up to be, and hey maybe things would be better with her kids around more. She goes to a lawyer and now you're in for a fight with huge costs.
Excellent advice.

Maybe some pro-bono is available or some social services could help.

But get the papers now, otherwise you will have trouble and huge fees later!
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And according to her cousin he had offered it to her but she refused.
The problem here is that it's easy to refuse if you've never done it, but if she's with this meth head guy and had a weak moment or got curious and decided to try it, it's extremely hard to say no the second time. It's way to easy to get seriously wrapped up in it and not even realize how bad it is, until you've screwed up many aspects of your life.

I know it's not the same for everyone, but I'm just telling you what I've witnessed.
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The problem here is that it's easy to refuse if you've never done it, but if she's with this meth head guy and had a weak moment or got curious and decided to try it, it's extremely hard to say no the second time. It's way to easy to get seriously wrapped up in it and not even realize how bad it is, until you've screwed up many aspects of your life.

I know it's not the same for everyone, but I'm just telling you what I've witnessed.
She never seemed to have any of these sympthoms while I was here. However keep in mind that I work 5 days per weeks and go to school four nights of the week. I usually didnt get home till 11P.M. maybe she was being starved for attention but we both made the sacrifice when I decided to go back to school. I spent as much time as I could with her but I was very aggrivated with her not taking care of the house and helping me with my stress from school and work. It seemed to be that it was just about her and her feelings she never made an attempt to care for my needs. But even so if the marriage was doomed I cant understand how she could just walk out and leave me and her kids. If she wasnt doing drugs before I find it very highly unlikely that she isnt doing them now considering who she is with. The guys work everyday but that doesnt mean he doesnt have a problem.
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She never seemed to have any of these sympthoms while I was here. However keep in mind that I work 5 days per weeks and go to school four nights of the week. I usually didnt get home till 11P.M. maybe she was being starved for attention but we both made the sacrifice when I decided to go back to school. I spent as much time as I could with her but I was very aggrivated with her not taking care of the house and helping me with my stress from school and work. It seemed to be that it was just about her and her feelings she never made an attempt to care for my needs. But even so if the marriage was doomed I cant understand how she could just walk out and leave me and her kids. If she wasnt doing drugs before I find it very highly unlikely that she isnt doing them now considering who she is with. The guys work everyday but that doesnt mean he doesnt have a problem.
You sound like I good man. I hope you find your answers.

Just saw you live in VA Beach... nice. My family has a condo there on the corner of 3rd street.
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You sound like I good man. I hope you find your answers.

Just saw you live in VA Beach... nice. My family has a condo there on the corner of 3rd street.
Nice and I am from GA - Macon
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I am very glad you are getting custody of the kids. If the abuse allegation is a lie, then don't stress over it. Most people will not believe a mother will leave her children with an abusive husband.

As for the meth, I pray that is not the case. That would be horrible for your children. My sister is a meth head, and needless to say the family has had to take her 3 children from her. She will probably not get any of them back. We don't have them legally, but we dare her to try to take them back. Protect your children at ALL costs, and good luck.
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Nice and I am from GA - Macon
I grew up in Richmond, VA... lived there until I was 21 and have lived here in GA for ten years.

I was in Macon for a concert a the centrerplex in April.
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I grew up in Richmond, VA... lived there until I was 21 and have lived here in GA for ten years.

I was in Macon for a concert a the centrerplex in April.
What part of GA are you guys in now?
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What kind of a bitch leaves her kids?? You are better off without this chick.
She got alcohol / substance abuse problems?
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Ah didnt read the above posts...
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Sorry to hear that. Hope things get better for you.
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Thanks guys I really appreciate the comments. I never really made much in this bizz and when i needed help I got my balls busted. But... you guys have really impressed me with the support I got on this subject.
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We're about 45 miles west of Atlanta.
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Good luck to you and your kids, you seem like a good person....
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Update: Found a house in Oregon for me and my kids. Also my widowed mother is moving with us to help me with the children. Things are looking my way.
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Update: Found a house in Oregon for me and my kids. Also my widowed mother is moving with us to help me with the children. Things are looking my way.
That is great news. Keep a positive outlook, and things will get better. Best wishes to you and your kids.

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Update: Found a house in Oregon for me and my kids. Also my widowed mother is moving with us to help me with the children. Things are looking my way.
I'm glad things are moving in a positive direction for you and your family. Best of luck with the move.
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That is great news. Keep a positive outlook, and things will get better. Best wishes to you and your kids.

P.S. - Mom to the rescue (as it should be. That's what we do )
I have never talked to you before but thanks for the kind words. The positive feedback I have been getting has helped me get through this. I really am thankful for moms like you.
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I have never talked to you before but thanks for the kind words. The positive feedback I have been getting has helped me get through this. I really am thankful for moms like you.
You take good care of those kids, and you will deserve everything good that comes to you. I know it is tough, but you only get one shot at enjoying them, make the most of it.
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