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European Lee · 07-23-2005, 08:40 AM

If you want paying for the design work i ordered from you almost 2 years ago, post a sample of the 'design' work you supposedly did for me and also make a statement that it is the same quality as work in your regular design portfolio.

Let GFY decide if the work passes the 'quality test', the ball is in your court

Post the work, if it is of a good quality, as voted for by GFY'ers you'll get paid, if it doesnt meet the quality of the other sites in your portfolio, you are shit out of luck, i have nothing to lose here, do you?

Regards,

Lee

Trafficbrokercom · 07-23-2005, 08:42 AM

why dont you post it ?

European Lee · 07-23-2005, 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trafficbrokercom

why dont you post it ?

Because i was never sent a 'finished' design by them

Regards,

Lee

Ice · 07-23-2005, 08:43 AM

If you contracted them to do a site for you... you owe them PERIOD

No... let gfy decide anything

European Lee · 07-23-2005, 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iceicebaby

If you contracted them to do a site for you... you owe them PERIOD

No... let gfy decide anything

I only owe them if the work was of the quality expected from such a 'superior' design company, you dont pay for something you dont have delivered

Regards,

Lee

Cory W · 07-23-2005, 08:51 AM

I have enjoyed all business relationships with Blue Design.

I only recommend 3 designers, they are one of them.

Fletch XXX · 07-23-2005, 08:52 AM

for some reason i had to post

webair · 07-23-2005, 09:05 AM

Shut up pay your bills and quit with the useless 2 year old drama...That's what GGW is for...

brand0n · 07-23-2005, 09:29 AM

you contracted them to do a job. they did the job. you didnt pay.

and who the fuck are you calling a cocksucker? lol

TheDoc · 07-23-2005, 09:35 AM

Always two sides to a story..

But you NEVER pay a design company for work you are not happy with.. Period..

wjxxx · 07-23-2005, 09:40 AM

Premium sig placement

SinisterStudios · 07-23-2005, 09:43 AM

this could get interesting

E Guru · 07-23-2005, 09:44 AM

Fuck you lee fatass retarded santa clas

Blue design studios is awesome

Brujah · 07-23-2005, 09:44 AM

I'd still like to see the design.

dropped9 · 07-23-2005, 09:45 AM

Lee you're a fucking asshat. Pay them what you owe bitch.

Relish XXX · 07-23-2005, 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SinisterStudios

this could get interesting

You only posted that to get you sig into the thread while not doing a "see sig" post.

Relish XXX · 07-23-2005, 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Relish XXX

You only posted that to get you sig into the thread while not doing a "see sig" post.

I only posted that to get my sig into the thread while not doing a "see sig" post.

DamageX · 07-23-2005, 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc

Always two sides to a story..

But you NEVER pay a design company for work you are not happy with.. Period..

Actually, that depends. First of all, it may not necessarily be the fault of the design company that the client has no clue about what he's doing... On the other hand, if the design was sub-standard and didn't sell worth shit I'd say either redo it or withstand payment. People expect ROI from a design, just like with any other B2B service or product.

wjxxx · 07-23-2005, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by wjxxx

Premium sig placement

And pay your bills, Lee

pornmonger · 07-23-2005, 10:11 AM

technically, according to business law, just because you contract someone to do a job doesn't mean you owe them.

Everything has to be according to the SOW, technical & functional specs and accepted by the client before payment is due.

simply contracting a job doesn't mean you owe anything. won't hold up in the court.

Quote:

Originally Posted by brand0n

you contracted them to do a job. they did the job. you didnt pay.

and who the fuck are you calling a cocksucker? lol

After Shock Media · 07-23-2005, 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornmonger

technically, according to business law, just because you contract someone to do a job doesn't mean you owe them.

Everything has to be according to the SOW, technical & functional specs and accepted by the client before payment is due.

simply contracting a job doesn't mean you owe anything. won't hold up in the court.

Technically, according to gfy law, your sig is to big.

Persignup Qon · 07-23-2005, 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamageX

Actually, that depends. First of all, it may not necessarily be the fault of the design company that the client has no clue about what he's doing... On the other hand, if the design was sub-standard and didn't sell worth shit I'd say either redo it or withstand payment. People expect ROI from a design, just like with any other B2B service or product.

ummmm... a designer does what you TELL him to do. if you give'em creative freedom, that's your personal decision. its not the designer's job to determine what will & won't sell. "sub-standard" could be the person just not liking the concept THEY gave when they actually saw it completed (or nearly complete) but the designer is STILL OWED FOR HIS TIME.

BDS does hot work period. they aren't the fastest turnaround but their work is on point. i know, check out the new look they gave OnProbation - i don't know you European Lee but you're fuckin up on this one... pay'em their money & move on.... hell, it would probably be best to just work out some sort of deal with them. they've always been agreeable when it comes to differences in ideas when we've had an issue of that nature. top notch guys in my book

...

Thomas1007 · 07-23-2005, 10:22 AM

oh drama
first page sig spot

Aric · 07-23-2005, 10:25 AM

Blue Design Studios are good people

and they're one of the few on my very short list of goto designers.

Pay for your order.

keyboard warrior · 07-23-2005, 10:26 AM

Funny how people bring shit to the boards to let them decide who gets paid.

pay your bill.

The Ghost · 07-23-2005, 10:37 AM

What was the original amount? If BDS do bring it to the board and the GFY crowd determines you owe, you should pay the amount, plus interest.

Fletch XXX · 07-23-2005, 10:38 AM

nothing says scammer like fucking over designers

JFK · 07-23-2005, 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by European Lee

If you want paying for the design work i ordered from you almost 2 years ago, post a sample of the 'design' work you supposedly did for me and also make a statement that it is the same quality as work in your regular design portfolio.

Let GFY decide if the work passes the 'quality test', the ball is in your court

Post the work, if it is of a good quality, as voted for by GFY'ers you'll get paid, if it doesnt meet the quality of the other sites in your portfolio, you are shit out of luck, i have nothing to lose here, do you?

Regards,

Lee

Lee, its better to start a drama thread on a Monday, you will get much better views

brand0n · 07-23-2005, 11:10 AM

thread backfire
lol
odds are they dont even have that design any more, or wont even see this thread, but as you can clearly see by everyone here.

you are a scammer.

flashfreak · 07-23-2005, 12:17 PM

see sig .

thanks

khs · 07-23-2005, 12:18 PM

oh hello!

European Lee · 07-23-2005, 12:32 PM

Bump for BDS

Whoever it was that said they probably dont have the work anymore, thats bullshit, i can go to Sharky or Todd and get work they did for us 4 years back, any designer worth their salt will keep archives of their work on file

The only reason BDS wont post the work is because, it was pure shit just like i have been saying all along

Regards,

Lee

dodger21 · 07-23-2005, 12:37 PM

This is the dumbest fucking thread I've seen yet!

dig420 · 07-23-2005, 12:59 PM

Blue Design rocks.

You, on the other hand, are an asshole. Loud, fat, obnoxious and pretty much totally without any redeeming qualities.

dig420 · 07-23-2005, 01:01 PM

Also, you're a deadbeat.

chase · 07-23-2005, 01:05 PM

It *is* funny that Lee called BDS cocksuckers, though, lol. If that isn't the pot calling the kettle black, haha, I don't know what is.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 07-23-2005, 02:06 PM

Fake drama.

Move on.

BlueDesignStudios · 07-23-2005, 04:26 PM

Hi Lee

I'm a bit confused.

When this story broke on GFY almost a year ago - you said you had every intention of paying, you were just too busy to respond to my emails / icq's for the past year.

You then said you weren't going to pay because I ruined the launch of your new website by posting the work on GFY.

You never once mentioned you had any concerns about the design itself or it's quality (we did around 15 versions for you and carried out all the changes you required)

And now, after two years, while I'm still unpaid for the design, you've got a new excuse.

So can you make up your mind and stick to one excuse? It's pretty weak when you keep changing, it really makes any potential case you have look pathetic.

Andrew

tungsten · 07-23-2005, 04:30 PM

i doubt bds did an unqualified design for you after 15 changes, unless something is not told here

brand0n · 07-23-2005, 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueDesignStudios

Hi Lee

I'm a bit confused.

When this story broke on GFY almost a year ago - you said you had every intention of paying, you were just too busy to respond to my emails / icq's for the past year.

You then said you weren't going to pay because I ruined the launch of your new website by posting the work on GFY.

You never once mentioned you had any concerns about the design itself or it's quality (we did around 15 versions for you and carried out all the changes you required)

And now, after two years, while I'm still unpaid for the design, you've got a new excuse.

So can you make up your mind and stick to one excuse? It's pretty weak when you keep changing, it really makes any potential case you have look pathetic.

Andrew

can you show us the designs?

BlueDesignStudios · 07-23-2005, 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brand0n

can you show us the designs?

they're best viewed alongside Lee's comments

they way we designed his site, was firstly doing up a bunch of ideas, so he can pick the best one, then once he picked his favorite, we developed it as per his instructions and changes, basically whatever he asked for we did

Which is why I don't get Lee's comments about quality - the design is a direct reflection of Lee's ideas, if I post each version of the design alongside Lee's comments then people will see how it evolved, and the fact that we did everything Lee specified.

Which is why I'm a bit confused about his quality concerns, it's taken two years for him to mention them, it sounds to me like he's trying anything to get out of paying

BlueDesignStudios · 07-23-2005, 04:46 PM

I'm a bit concerned as to how this situation qualifies me as a 'cocksucker(s)':

- You ordered a design two years ago, and have never paid for it

- Now you want to use a GFY audience to determine if you should or should not pay. (are you going to be asking GFY next if you should pay your hosting / internet / electricity bills?)

I don't see what you have against me? Seems you've scammed me and have lost nothing, I am the one who still has not seen a penny for the design work.

It should be quite clear from the responses here how GFY feels about this

brand0n · 07-23-2005, 05:01 PM

he said it was pure shit. ive seen alot of your work, so i dont think that can be true.

ofcourse everyone would like to see to see if his story can even hold a drop of water.

so, is it possible to see the examples?

Donny · 07-23-2005, 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

for some reason i had to post

Why isn't your alternate tour on Fletch Bucks?

FunForOne · 07-23-2005, 05:12 PM

Some real drama, This isn't going to end good, it all depends on the work.

European Lee · 07-23-2005, 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FunForOne

Some real drama, This isn't going to end good, it all depends on the work.

Which still, hasnt been posted, anyone want to take a guess why?

Regards,

Lee

BlueDesignStudios · 07-23-2005, 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by European Lee

Which still, hasnt been posted, anyone want to take a guess why?

Regards,

Lee

how about you respond to my posts first, then I'll post everything - all versions of the site & the entire email history of the project - and then you can pay up, how does that sound?

Relish XXX · 07-23-2005, 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueDesignStudios

how about you respond to my posts first, then I'll post everything - all versions of the site & the entire email history of the project - and then you can pay up, how does that sound?

I like that idea. I want to see these designs.

European Lee · 07-23-2005, 06:16 PM

Andrew, i suggest you talk to Wade, we both discussed the 'quality' issue in Vegas this year, not my fault that you havent heard about it from him.

Now post the designs damnit.

Dont forget that you also need to post a statement saying they are of the same quality of the sites in your portfolio, you wouldnt want to mislead anyone now would you

Regards,

Lee

BlueDesignStudios · 07-23-2005, 06:18 PM

Lee - you've never responded to my questions - why do you keep dodging the issues?

I've said I will post everything as soon as you respond to my posts

07-23-2005, 08:40 AM	#1
European Lee Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Daytona Beach Posts: 7,133	Blue Design Studios - Im Calling You Cocksuckers Out If you want paying for the design work i ordered from you almost 2 years ago, post a sample of the 'design' work you supposedly did for me and also make a statement that it is the same quality as work in your regular design portfolio. Let GFY decide if the work passes the 'quality test', the ball is in your court Post the work, if it is of a good quality, as voted for by GFY'ers you'll get paid, if it doesnt meet the quality of the other sites in your portfolio, you are shit out of luck, i have nothing to lose here, do you? Regards, Lee __________________ YOUR TRAFFIC IS SAFE WITH US - CONDOM CASH PUTTING THE GAY ADULT INDUSTRY ON YOUR PC!! AFFORDABLE 2257 COMPLIANT GAY + BI CONTENT

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brand0n been very busy Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: the queen city Posts: 26,983	thread backfire lol odds are they dont even have that design any more, or wont even see this thread, but as you can clearly see by everyone here. you are a scammer. __________________ want to buy this spot for cheap? it is of course for sale. long term deals are always the best bet. brand0n/ at/ a o l dot commies.

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European Lee Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Daytona Beach Posts: 7,133	Bump for BDS Whoever it was that said they probably dont have the work anymore, thats bullshit, i can go to Sharky or Todd and get work they did for us 4 years back, any designer worth their salt will keep archives of their work on file The only reason BDS wont post the work is because, it was pure shit just like i have been saying all along Regards, Lee __________________ YOUR TRAFFIC IS SAFE WITH US - CONDOM CASH PUTTING THE GAY ADULT INDUSTRY ON YOUR PC!! AFFORDABLE 2257 COMPLIANT GAY + BI CONTENT

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07-23-2005, 04:26 PM	#38
BlueDesignStudios Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 9,492	Lee stop changing your excuse, it's obvious you're lying Hi Lee I'm a bit confused. When this story broke on GFY almost a year ago - you said you had every intention of paying, you were just too busy to respond to my emails / icq's for the past year. You then said you weren't going to pay because I ruined the launch of your new website by posting the work on GFY. You never once mentioned you had any concerns about the design itself or it's quality (we did around 15 versions for you and carried out all the changes you required) And now, after two years, while I'm still unpaid for the design, you've got a new excuse. So can you make up your mind and stick to one excuse? It's pretty weak when you keep changing, it really makes any potential case you have look pathetic. Andrew __________________ Blue Design Studios - Adult Design Specialists! Email me for a free quote: [email protected]

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07-23-2005, 04:46 PM	#42
BlueDesignStudios Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 9,492	I'm a bit concerned as to how this situation qualifies me as a 'cocksucker(s)': - You ordered a design two years ago, and have never paid for it - Now you want to use a GFY audience to determine if you should or should not pay. (are you going to be asking GFY next if you should pay your hosting / internet / electricity bills?) I don't see what you have against me? Seems you've scammed me and have lost nothing, I am the one who still has not seen a penny for the design work. It should be quite clear from the responses here how GFY feels about this __________________ Blue Design Studios - Adult Design Specialists! Email me for a free quote: [email protected]

07-23-2005, 05:01 PM	#43
brand0n been very busy Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: the queen city Posts: 26,983	he said it was pure shit. ive seen alot of your work, so i dont think that can be true. ofcourse everyone would like to see to see if his story can even hold a drop of water. so, is it possible to see the examples? __________________ want to buy this spot for cheap? it is of course for sale. long term deals are always the best bet. brand0n/ at/ a o l dot commies.

07-23-2005, 05:12 PM	#45
FunForOne Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: USA Posts: 8,704	Some real drama, This isn't going to end good, it all depends on the work.

07-23-2005, 06:16 PM	#49
European Lee Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Daytona Beach Posts: 7,133	Andrew, i suggest you talk to Wade, we both discussed the 'quality' issue in Vegas this year, not my fault that you havent heard about it from him. Now post the designs damnit. Dont forget that you also need to post a statement saying they are of the same quality of the sites in your portfolio, you wouldnt want to mislead anyone now would you Regards, Lee __________________ YOUR TRAFFIC IS SAFE WITH US - CONDOM CASH PUTTING THE GAY ADULT INDUSTRY ON YOUR PC!! AFFORDABLE 2257 COMPLIANT GAY + BI CONTENT

07-23-2005, 06:18 PM	#50
BlueDesignStudios Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 9,492	Lee - you've never responded to my questions - why do you keep dodging the issues? I've said I will post everything as soon as you respond to my posts __________________ Blue Design Studios - Adult Design Specialists! Email me for a free quote: [email protected]