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Old 07-23-2005, 07:35 PM   #101
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where is woj?
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Old 07-23-2005, 07:36 PM   #103
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where is woj?
i think i saw him on the news Friday night. Something about a meth lab bust
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i think i saw him on the news Friday night. Something about a meth lab bust
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Old 07-23-2005, 07:39 PM   #105
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eat a fat dick you band wagon bitch.
I don't want to know what they barked at you in lockdown .. You want to talk to nick or gonzo you know where they are.
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Old 07-23-2005, 07:41 PM   #106
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I don't want to know what they barked at you in lockdown .. You want to talk to nick or gonzo you know where they are.
im talking to you right now you punk.

you are less then snot and you fucking know it. you are here for the sole reason to back your fellow "we are better then the rest of the world" resident ass fucker Lee and we both know it.

now, shut your fucking pie hole bitch before i fucking shut it for you.
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Thread Recap - to save you reading through two pages of Lee's crap

Lee ordered a design two years ago, and never paid for it.

This is just another one of his attempts to find a new excuse for why he shouldn't pay for the design.

Lee stopped responding because the questions have got a bit too challenging for him.

Lee will start a new thread with a new excuse in the near future.

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Old 07-23-2005, 07:42 PM   #108
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im talking to you right now you punk.


you are less then snot and you fucking know it. you are here for the sole reason to back your fellow "we are better then the rest of the world" resident ass fucker Lee and we both know it.

now, shut your fucking pie hole bitch before i fucking shut it for you.
Do it ..
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Old 07-23-2005, 07:45 PM   #109
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Do it ..
Guys guys guys!

Can you get your own thread? This one is reserved for Lee's pathetic responses.
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Can you get your own thread? This one is reserved for Lee's pathetic responses.
Sorry man .. you are right, this is your thread .. my apologies to both BlueDesignStudios and Lee
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Sorry man .. you are right, this is your thread .. my apologies to both BlueDesignStudios and Lee
Lee's not posting anymore, this thread backfired on him & the questions got too hard, but rest assured it won't be long before he starts another stupid thread
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Old 07-23-2005, 08:02 PM   #112
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so, are we going to get to see the designs so this fucktard will be forced into paying you?
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BDS, I say just post them. If they are of your normal quality you will either get paid by Lee (doubtfull) or you will get great exposure to sell future orders from new clients.

As of right now you have nothing to lose, but I would say that by you refusing to show them is kinda making me wonder whats to hide?? Probably nothing but the very thought of it is worth posting anyway. At least to me.
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BDS, I say just post them. If they are of your normal quality you will either get paid by Lee (doubtfull) or you will get great exposure to sell future orders from new clients.

As of right now you have nothing to lose, but I would say that by you refusing to show them is kinda making me wonder whats to hide?? Probably nothing but the very thought of it is worth posting anyway. At least to me.
I understand - point is we've been through this before, they've all been posted & lee still didn't pay.

If lee wants this, I'll make it happen, he should leave payment with a 3rd party however, I can't trust this guy anymore
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I understand - point is we've been through this before, they've all been posted & lee still didn't pay.

If lee wants this, I'll make it happen, he should leave payment with a 3rd party however, I can't trust this guy anymore

I do agree with you there. He came up with the concept and really should have no objections to putting the money into a 3rd party until the vote happens or whatever the ultimate way of tallying the votes is.
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Old 07-23-2005, 08:16 PM   #116
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Blue Design Studios have probably done rather well out of this thread.
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Blue Design Studios have probably done rather well out of this thread.
I think it speaks volumes that Lee stopped posting & wouldn't respond to any questions.

Though, the title of this thread is still misleading
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I think it speaks volumes that Lee stopped posting & wouldn't respond to any questions.

Though, the title of this thread is still misleading
I still want to see the design!
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LOL it's been posted a bunch of times before, so you can search for it

I will post again as soon as Lee deposites payment with a 3rd party
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If you hire someone to design stuff for you, you pay the bill PERIOD.
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so, are we going to get to see the designs so this fucktard will be forced into paying you?

yeah so right man.. post it bluedesignstudios everybody loves your works!
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You never once mentioned you had any concerns about the design itself or it's quality (we did around 15 versions for you and carried out all the changes you required)

And now, after two years, while I'm still unpaid for the design, you've got a new excuse.

15 VERSIONS?

WTF?

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I guess it's time to go up and click the search button to find the designs. Not that it matters, just out of curiosity.
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do you guys really think Lee will keep his word?

It's been posted before and he still doesn't pay up
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It's been posted before and he still doesn't pay up
OK, but now Im curious and couldn't find the post with the designs
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I guess it's time to go up and click the search button to find the designs. Not that it matters, just out of curiosity.
I was curious too.. so I looked.. didn't find them.. but I did find this where Lee said he was going to pay BDS
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...sign+Stud ios

Lee.. I've been your friend for a long time now.. but I gotta tell ya, this isn't looking good for you in my eyes

From what I understand, this whole project was only $550? Dang Lee.. how can you justify this to yourself or anyone else?

Look, I know you're trying to become the drama king of the world.. but damn hon.. don't you have any self respect at all?

If you weren't happy with the designs.. the time to bitch about it was after you paid for the work.. You not paying only makes YOU look bad.. I don't blame BDS for not posting the designs.. it wouldn't make any difference, you'd find something else to say about it after that. You know.. someone on this board, (who I hope is banned by now) did this type of thing to me

I'll tell ya.. if it were me.. and you did what you're doing, I'd be seeing you in court
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I was curious too.. so I looked.. didn't find them.. but I did find this where Lee said he was going to pay BDS
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...sign+Stud ios

Lee.. I've been your friend for a long time now.. but I gotta tell ya, this isn't looking good for you in my eyes

From what I understand, this whole project was only $550? Dang Lee.. how can you justify this to yourself or anyone else?

Look, I know you're trying to become the drama king of the world.. but damn hon.. don't you have any self respect at all?

If you weren't happy with the designs.. the time to bitch about it was after you paid for the work.. You not paying only makes YOU look bad.. I don't blame BDS for not posting the designs.. it wouldn't make any difference, you'd find something else to say about it after that. You know.. someone on this board, (who I hope is banned by now) did this type of thing to me

I'll tell ya.. if it were me.. and you did what you're doing, I'd be seeing you in court
Let me just edit something I said here.. I actually wouldn't take someone to court for only $550, because it wouldn't be worth the trouble.. and I think you knew that right from the start when you decided you didn't want to pay BDS
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Even on acid, this thread is so FUCKING LAME!!
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I was curious too.. so I looked.. didn't find them.. but I did find this where Lee said he was going to pay BDS
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...sign+Stud ios

Lee.. I've been your friend for a long time now.. but I gotta tell ya, this isn't looking good for you in my eyes

From what I understand, this whole project was only $550? Dang Lee.. how can you justify this to yourself or anyone else?

Look, I know you're trying to become the drama king of the world.. but damn hon.. don't you have any self respect at all?

If you weren't happy with the designs.. the time to bitch about it was after you paid for the work.. You not paying only makes YOU look bad.. I don't blame BDS for not posting the designs.. it wouldn't make any difference, you'd find something else to say about it after that. You know.. someone on this board, (who I hope is banned by now) did this type of thing to me

I'll tell ya.. if it were me.. and you did what you're doing, I'd be seeing you in court
Listen to your friend Lee
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Interesting thread you found there, 9 months old, and Lee says he will pay out of principle - wonder what happened to these principles?
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I?m also interested in seeing these designs.
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shit i read it all , what do u care? bds u wont loose anything , i like your stuff also
u rule. so post it , let him pay. done , and if he doesnt pay even after gfy said its da shit , then he will be the moron after this thread closed (since he pulled it)
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I?m also interested in seeing these designs.
and if they are up to par will you admitt you are friends with a scamming homo?

(the homo part is a lock)
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shit i read it all , what do u care? bds u wont loose anything , i like your stuff also
u rule. so post it , let him pay. done , and if he doesnt pay even after gfy said its da shit , then he will be the moron after this thread closed (since he pulled it)
thanks for the kudos - I will post as soon as Lee deposits the payment with a 3rd party - we've done this all before and Lee has never paid up, so I want to make sure this time we get some closure on the issue
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"It's your fault." "No it's not, it's yours." "Prove it." "No, you prove it." "I'm not going to prove it because that's what you want me to do." "I'm not going to prove it because that's what you want."

Repeat (with sigs) ad nauseam...

Friends and enemies are not likely to switch sides as a result of such persuasive arguments. But I wonder if people who decide to handle threads this way ever stop to think how many "bystanders" will make a note never to deal with either of the parties involved.

By way of contrast, John of NATS and Rand of ePassporte come to mind as two of the people here who actually deal with critical threads professionally and emerge with their personal credibility intact. At worst they limit the damage to their services and often turn the situation around.
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Friends and enemies are not likely to switch sides as a result of such persuasive arguments. But I wonder if people who decide to handle threads this way ever stop to think how many "bystanders" will make a note never to deal with either of the parties involved.
I'll always do business with BDS. Once you go Blue, you never go.... hmm.. nothing rhymes .. but you get the point
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POST THE FUCKING DESIGNS ALREADY
I second that motion. This is now pissing me off.
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and if they are up to par will you admitt you are friends with a scamming homo?

(the homo part is a lock)
That isn't going to happen, plus BlueDesign have held off posting the designs for so long that they could have redone any "poor" or substandard" designs by now.
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its sorta stupid that anyone wants to see these designs... they really don't matter. YOU place an order with designer (one that YOU have chosen probably based on their previous work), then you tell'em what YOU want, they deliver & you don't like it? you STILL OWE FOR THE TIME THEY'VE SPENT ON THE WORK YOU HIRED THEM TO DO - IT WAS YOUR CHOICE NOT TO ACCEPT IT, YOU SHOULD BARE THE COST OF THAT DECISION. its just that simple.

maybe some of you cats don't own a business or expect to maintin some sort of respectable reputation but that's how things are handled in this business (or at least how professional, reputable people handle it). done.




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Repeat (with sigs) ad nauseam...

Friends and enemies are not likely to switch sides as a result of such persuasive arguments. But I wonder if people who decide to handle threads this way ever stop to think how many "bystanders" will make a note never to deal with either of the parties involved.

By way of contrast, John of NATS and Rand of ePassporte come to mind as two of the people here who actually deal with critical threads professionally and emerge with their personal credibility intact. At worst they limit the damage to their services and often turn the situation around.

The only note that I have made is that I will use BDS again in the future. It is more of a follow-up note more than anything.
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Old 07-24-2005, 09:23 AM   #144
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its sorta stupid that anyone wants to see these designs... they really don't matter. YOU place an order with designer (one that YOU have chosen probably based on their previous work), then you tell'em what YOU want, they deliver & you don't like it? you STILL OWE FOR THE TIME THEY'VE SPENT ON THE WORK YOU HIRED THEM TO DO - IT WAS YOUR CHOICE NOT TO ACCEPT IT, YOU SHOULD BARE THE COST OF THAT DECISION. its just that simple.

maybe some of you cats don't own a business or expect to maintin some sort of respectable reputation but that's how things are handled in this business (or at least how professional, reputable people handle it). done.




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its sorta stupid that anyone wants to see these designs... they really don't matter. YOU place an order with designer (one that YOU have chosen probably based on their previous work), then you tell'em what YOU want, they deliver & you don't like it? you STILL OWE FOR THE TIME THEY'VE SPENT ON THE WORK YOU HIRED THEM TO DO - IT WAS YOUR CHOICE NOT TO ACCEPT IT, YOU SHOULD BARE THE COST OF THAT DECISION. its just that simple.

maybe some of you cats don't own a business or expect to maintin some sort of respectable reputation but that's how things are handled in this business (or at least how professional, reputable people handle it). done.
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Personally I think the designs are of the utmost importance in this matter.


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That is exactly why they matter, because it is being claimed that the designs are not up to the designer?s usual standard. As for bearing the cost anyway I think that's a rather poor way to run a business... ?Oh thanks for the shit design and here's your $500? - Don't make me laugh
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Old 07-24-2005, 10:49 AM   #146
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Personally I think the designs are of the utmost importance in this matter.



That is exactly why they matter, because it is being claimed that the designs are not up to the designer?s usual standard. As for bearing the cost anyway I think that's a rather poor way to run a business... ?Oh thanks for the shit design and here's your $500? - Don't make me laugh
Designs are subjective, however time is not.

Based on your theory, I should just hire out 10 design teams with the intention of paying one of them for the final services.

Paying for a design that you feel is sub-par is a cost of doing business. Affiliate programs do it all the time. I have done it. It is life. If the design is devoid of the basic concept, you may have an argument, but I doubt highly a design team such as BDS would not follow the basic instructions or save jpg files as gif.

I eat out a lot. Sometimes, the food is not that great. When the bill comes, I pay it. I pay it every time. My class is more important than my restaurant experience. I also tip 20 percent, as a starting point.

I have a personal perception of what is a professional business procedure in concern with my own projects, as well as Weg projects. I pay for services every time. I pay my bills. My reputation is unblemished in that regard. I intend it to remain such, as it is important to me as a person, businessman and company publicist / marketing director.


I have sent more than a few wires to BDS. I have contacts all over this industry that go out of there way to help me.

I am not trying to start a fight, nor am I playing towards friends. Just voicing my opinion on it.

I could care less about this issue. At the end of the day, Andrew needs to enjoy his weekend and move on. He needs to write off the time as a "cost of doing business." Two way street on how these things work, however, I doubt I am telling him anything he does not know.
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Old 07-24-2005, 10:56 AM   #147
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I wouldnt pay if the design was shit. Why should I have my company image tarnnished by a shit designer.
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Old 07-24-2005, 11:00 AM   #148
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I just wanted to see the designs because Blue Design Studios usuallly has great quality stuff and I like to see what top designers are whipping out.
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What was the project cost and why doesn't Lee or BDS post samples of work in progress? If you are making this public, POST A FUCKING LINK ALREADY.
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Has anyone EVER seen a bad design by BDS ?

This just sounds like a case of "don't wanna pay blues"

Lee had a verbal contract , he broke that contract and hasn't explained why properly.
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