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Old 07-21-2005, 02:21 PM   #451
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Totally.

BTW - did you mutlithread your 50-bot to have a checker thread making sure the submitting thread indeed gets the 50 spot or abort?

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Exciting week this week. For starters, the impoverishedNOOBS Advisory Council will be announcing it's choice of sponsor for the debut NOOB Showcase.

Given the volume of interest we've received from the NOOB side, I wish there were more than one spot in the bag. I've seen some of their design work -- and it's spectacular (like for example, this one person who was a creative director at an ad agency in seattle -- now, all she wants to do is this -- -- whaddaya gonna do -- i'll have to get permssion to post some of the work i have seen, but i was like "this is radical, this is truly original..." -- GALLERIES, yep -- ) There will be other announcements this week, including more Guest Discussions and an Internext-related bit of NOOBNEWS -- happy monday to all --


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Our Modern Eyes are Jaded:
Pornography and the Line of Obscenity


The visual cortex is the largest and busiest part of the brain. There's no doubt Homo Sapiens is an animal that relies heavily on sight. We take it for granted, living as we do surrounded by the rich visuals of the reality we have constructed, that to see is EVERYTHING. Needless to say, the importance of our Sense of Sight could not have evolved overnight.

Long before there was even a dream of photography, from the time we lived in caves, to the building of the pyramids, to the castles of Versailles, there's been a lot for humans to see in the world -- more than enough to justify the evolution of our magnificent Human Eye.

I only make this point so heavily because I know many people tend to think nothing was ever better in all of history than 5 minutes ago. I also don't wish to be contradicted later in this essay, when I am making my larger point, when I say: The Eye is an old dog. He knows many wonderful tricks. He can tell a friend from a foe at a glance. He can climb a tree in duress. The eye IS everything and ALL that is true -- but it's nothing new.

The advent of photography in the mid 19th century changed everything -- meaning that it changed truth in a fundamental way, very much more so than any other representational art had till then. Try to imagine what it must have been like for humans when there simply were no visual "duplicates" in the world. Whatever your eyes saw, you knew you were seeing it because it was there. There was never any occasion to disregard something you were looking at because it "wasn't really happening".

Accordingly, the human Sight Organ, the human mind, and a very long history of human societies were all firmly rooted in the concept of seeing is believing. And because believing is the gateway to emotion, the eyes ruled our entire Experience. What humans developed was a finely-tuned collaboration between the eyes and the deepest subconscious. It makes sense, when we know that shaving even a few milliseconds from a response-time often made the difference between death and survival, that evolution would have taken its sweet time wiring up our eyes to the most reflexive, most powerful parts of the brain. What we see can make us hate, make us lust, make us physically more powerful, make us able to run faster.

What photography introduced that was so important, and unlike anything else yet in the visual arts, was what every photograph contains: a basis in a prior reality. Motion pictures and video have changed that to: a basis in an "alternative" reality -- whether it's simply footage from a different time and different place, a "live feed" from somewhere else at that same time, or a completely convincing fabrication, like special effects and CGI -- in all these cases we know what we're seeing isn't "real" -- not in the old sense of real.

My point with this long set-up is that, while we may think we know it isn't real, large, important, influential parts of our brain do not -- they believe. I am becoming convinced that a great gap exists between Human Physio-Biology (specifically, the sense of sight) and Technology (specifically, visual media and display).

You can't just pick at that thread, either, without unraveling the whole sweater -- which includes such hot topic questions as "Do video games make children kill?" But I want to close as relevantly as I can. Sex. Porn. Let's think about what modern porn must do to the Old Brain. If 75% of the brain is involved in sight, I would say 95% of that part is involved in sex. Makes me wonder, how common it was for people to see other people having sex at different times in history. In the cave, we'd all guess OFTEN. But how 'bout in 1122, or in 1575, or in 1808, or in 1971? Unless you lived in Rome or during a time of much pillaging and raping, you probably didn't see all that much. Even when free of the conservative influence and shame of religion, we know that humans seek privacy (or at least distance from the main group) when they couple. Of course, the advent and persistent presence of organized religion had certainly been pushing sex even further into the closet, so to speak. But, let's not get distracted by the relationship between religion and sex. What we're talking about here is visual commonness. And what we know of history and human nature tells us that the sight of other people having sex was NOT common before the arrival of porn.

Here again, the conversation may take many forks. But I want to skip quickly ahead to offer the following proof...

GIVEN:
In humans, the sense of sight is closely tied to the subconscious, to the reactive mind and to emotional truth. The arrival of visual mediums (particularly life-like video) is failry recent in the span of human history. We are living in a lag-period, so to speak, during which our brains are still somewhat confused and by themselves divided by all the FALSE REALITIES that pervade our environment.

PROVEN:
Given the necessity of having to reject many, many images from the scope of "reality", the modern brain would have to develop a filter of some sort. The goal of the filter would be to remove on the basis of a qualitative difference. But, we also know that there ain't ever been a filter of any kind made by anybody that removed just qualitative without removing quantitative, and vice versa. In this example, it means "low intensity" visuals were getting filtered out, even though they were not false reproductions, even though they were IN reality. To compensate for a higher "noise floor" as it were, the visuals start getting more and more intense, at least if they are to have the same reaction as before -- just like a drug. Before you know it, human beings are realistically exploding in 3D and FIVE Enormous Black Cocks have been successfully forced into a petite 18-year old's anus. The censors flip out. The mob cries for more and more. The lines get moved, erased, drawn again. We are clearly not in Kansas any more, as regards the visual sanctity of either sex or of life. And there's no sign of slowing down. Even if they get rid of porn as it exists today, they'll just get larger live bugs for the big-titted reality show contestants to eat on prime time TV. The deepest parts of our brains have just begun to react to these very, very, very new technologies.

I'm not usually one to suggest the putting on of brakes. But if the hardcore extremities of the porn spectrum are just a reaction to the higher visual noise floor of modern times, do we owe that material the same respect, the same protection under 1st Amendment? Or is some porn over the line of Obscenity?





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I am wondering too?
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Too funny, Jack must have been teaching noobs how to make prepaid sales deals with affiliate programs and then not deliver. He never paid back Datinggold for the money he scammed from them.
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Too funny, Jack must have been teaching noobs how to make prepaid sales deals with affiliate programs and then not deliver. He never paid back Datinggold for the money he scammed from them.
leave it alone Lazy Cash...

Jack helped me and a few others weith this thread alone..

Jack Mardack is a good guy that is misread by many.

NOw if he TRULY TRULY harmed you or your business, please, contact me and elaborate as to how he did that...

as for datinggold, im not sure exactly what their original deal was when they set up the payment and traffic trade...

What I DO know is, directly after that blew up and AK jumped on the "youre a bad man jack mardack" bandwagon (which didnt happen til Lars initiated slander and libel amongst our industry) I witnessed Jack and AK talking and shaking hands...

now if it were a true "ripoff scam" like you say, would AK even bother to shake hands or speak with Jack face to face? Shit, that wasnt even mentioned when we were all face to face...

WHat happened with Jack and AFF is the only ripoff that should be seen, but alas, hidden due to money and slimy jew lawyers....


Jack is a good guy and helped people when they needed it, still does. He can teach you a lot if you can decipher his rhetoric.


A lot of people say Jack is on drugs... just by looking at him... All I have to say even if he does (which I still havent witnessed) hes on way less than many in this industry... His personality is different and hes a spic jew from Queens... what the fuck can you expect...

but a ripoff scam artist he is not...

LazyCash, I'm really tired of seeing you talk shit about Jack!

He tried to come back and be a part of this board again a few months back and you just had to start with your horseshit and he left again... Jack is still here working with us everyday... That you can't get rid of..

I dont know who you are, Ive heard rumors as to who your identity is... and we may be friends, but i dont fucking care...

If you are who you are, come talk to ME and tell me what it is that YOU KNOW PERSONALLY... or is its all just bullshit that you think you know second hand...

Jack had his name tarnished and ran through the mud here and in our industry ... why? .... for trying to do the right thing....


if you read the whole book you certainly wouldnt be barking at Jack...
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What I DO know is, directly after that blew up and AK jumped on the "youre a bad man jack mardack" bandwagon (which didnt happen til Lars initiated slander and libel amongst our industry) I witnessed Jack and AK talking and shaking hands...
???

i think i met Jack first time in PHX of 2006 at the hooters across the mission palm. back then i was with my friend Nader (Nichepay).
we did not do any business together, so the shaking hands was prolly like,"hey nice to meet you! etc" he told me his wife was/is Asian and so forth...

i started working for DG November 2006, and my first show with DG was Internext 2007.. by then, i was already told what the situation was.

i don't think you would have seen me shaking hands and making deals with Jack after this period tho... im pretty sure..

can you confirm the timeline?

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i think i met Jack first time in PHX of 2006 at the hooters across the mission palm. back then i was with my friend Nader (Nichepay).
we did not do any business together, so the shaking hands was prolly like,"hey nice to meet you! etc" he told me his wife was/is Asian and so forth...

i started working for DG November 2006, and my first show with DG was Internext 2007.. by then, i was already told what the situation was.

i don't think you would have seen me shaking hands and making deals with Jack after this period tho... im pretty sure..

can you confirm the timeline?

thanks.
My mistake in assuming you were datinggold as well, that IS my mistake so it makes the handshake and transaction part of my bitching and complaining irrelevant...

but the fact that i tried to put out still stands..

Jack isnt a bad guy... and i dont believe he tried to scam anyone...

i can understand if the numbers are true that it was a down south deal... i DO know that happens everyday in this business... was it a little extreme... if I recollect correctly ... 1500 and there was a total of 3 actual memberships with a bit more email opt ins... a little extreme, perhaps, but how many people have lost that or more with other ad spots... im sure weve all encountered bad ratios from ad spots... those who buy ad spots know they have...


I did make a mistake on who and when AK was involved with DG... so the meeting and handshake is irrelevant and I omit that...

but ... by all means, contact me Lazycash, talk to me about what issues YOU have with jack...
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leave it alone Lazy Cash...

Jack helped me and a few others weith this thread alone..

Jack Mardack is a good guy that is misread by many.

NOw if he TRULY TRULY harmed you or your business, please, contact me and elaborate as to how he did that...

as for datinggold, im not sure exactly what their original deal was when they set up the payment and traffic trade...

What I DO know is, directly after that blew up and AK jumped on the "youre a bad man jack mardack" bandwagon (which didnt happen til Lars initiated slander and libel amongst our industry) I witnessed Jack and AK talking and shaking hands...

now if it were a true "ripoff scam" like you say, would AK even bother to shake hands or speak with Jack face to face? Shit, that wasnt even mentioned when we were all face to face...

WHat happened with Jack and AFF is the only ripoff that should be seen, but alas, hidden due to money and slimy jew lawyers....


Jack is a good guy and helped people when they needed it, still does. He can teach you a lot if you can decipher his rhetoric.


A lot of people say Jack is on drugs... just by looking at him... All I have to say even if he does (which I still havent witnessed) hes on way less than many in this industry... His personality is different and hes a spic jew from Queens... what the fuck can you expect...

but a ripoff scam artist he is not...

LazyCash, I'm really tired of seeing you talk shit about Jack!

He tried to come back and be a part of this board again a few months back and you just had to start with your horseshit and he left again... Jack is still here working with us everyday... That you can't get rid of..

I dont know who you are, Ive heard rumors as to who your identity is... and we may be friends, but i dont fucking care...

If you are who you are, come talk to ME and tell me what it is that YOU KNOW PERSONALLY... or is its all just bullshit that you think you know second hand...

Jack had his name tarnished and ran through the mud here and in our industry ... why? .... for trying to do the right thing....


if you read the whole book you certainly wouldnt be barking at Jack...
Geez Deej, you're all over the place with this post. Its not some complicated scenario, Jack made a deal with DG and didn't live up to his end of the bargain, there's not anything else to it. I have no idea how you can call that "doing the right thing" If Jack has a hard time being a part of this board because of some things that went on in the past with him, then that's something he needs to deal with. If someone is innocent and has nothing to hide when being accused of a wrongdoing on this board then they would have no reason to run and hide. I don't have anything personal against Jack, just call it like I see it.

Funny how you had no problem continuing to call out JTF regarding the money he was scamming from everyone, yet when its someone you know that does the same thing you call it "being misread". I don't know you Deej, I am who am, never had another nick.
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i had bananas foster with jack at 06 summer xbiz.

he was super nice to me when he did not have to be, and that makes him awesome in my book.
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Geez Deej, you're all over the place with this post. Its not some complicated scenario, Jack made a deal with DG and didn't live up to his end of the bargain, there's not anything else to it. I have no idea how you can call that "doing the right thing" If Jack has a hard time being a part of this board because of some things that went on in the past with him, then that's something he needs to deal with. If someone is innocent and has nothing to hide when being accused of a wrongdoing on this board then they would have no reason to run and hide. I don't have anything personal against Jack, just call it like I see it.

Funny how you had no problem continuing to call out JTF regarding the money he was scamming from everyone, yet when its someone you know that does the same thing you call it "being misread". I don't know you Deej, I am who am, never had another nick.
Just noticed your post back to me..

I can half agree with you on this...

about JTF... and the comparison.. Jim was a sore on this board and on this industry... Jack was helpful... like this thread here...

I cant justify his dealings with DG... I can only stick up for the nature of Jack... I dont think he would intentionally screw someone...

anyway... I spoke to jack a couple weeks ago and hes off doing good things with a starting company...

I, like others, wish he would stop by from time to time...
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did any newbs make any money??
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What was this thread about??

did any newbs make any money??
helped me, yes...

there are pearls deep within...
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Old 07-05-2008, 09:44 PM   #484
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plus i bumped it because it was helping someone...

i referred it to someone in need of some knowledge...

it has a few tidbits...
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Old 07-05-2008, 09:46 PM   #485
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Just to prove a point, I'm taking on a handful of inexperienced "webmasters" who aren't making any money. Within 60 days, you should be making enough to occasionally reach for the check and take cabs home from the movies. If you'd like to be considered for this opportunity, please send an email to i_am_a_swan[]profitLABINC[]com with a few sentences about yourself and some links to your stuff. Participants must be willing to share information about the changes to their lifestyle after the 60 days, at which time a "Results" thread will be posted to this board. There will be no cost to you. But you must be prepared to commit at least one hour per day (weekends included) to this project.

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Old 07-05-2008, 09:55 PM   #486
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