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Tala 06-24-2005 11:15 PM

May I make a different suggestion?

While this board is a fantastic place to do biz and such, one thread over 60 days with all of us in it is not only going to get long as fuck, but tedious as well as we try to search through the thread to find the day's lesson.

How about making a thread per day? That lets us have the topic at hand and prevents us from possibly missing pertinent information that we may otherwise overlook.

riddler 06-24-2005 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tala
May I make a different suggestion?

While this board is a fantastic place to do biz and such, one thread over 60 days with all of us in it is not only going to get long as fuck, but tedious as well as we try to search through the thread to find the day's lesson.

How about making a thread per day? That lets us have the topic at hand and prevents us from possibly missing pertinent information that we may otherwise overlook.

how about we just have a 2HP irc class room of the day :) Selected people get to sit down and ask questions etc and someone can log the whole "class" and host it some where for everybody to read :)

MrAwesome 06-24-2005 11:26 PM

rather than make a thread everyday, send us a carbon copy email everyday, i dont follow this board religiously and dont always have time to search the board for certain threads

Tala 06-24-2005 11:27 PM

I'd go for the irc thing, or maybe a yahoo group, where those of us who need the info can get it in email.

Or both. Use the yahoo group as a mailing list, and use their chat offering as the chat to be sent out to the group on a daily basis?

MrAwesome 06-24-2005 11:27 PM

curious to know as well, what is your income per week/wonth/year? is this proven methods or are you hoping to prove something?

riddler 06-24-2005 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tala
I'd go for the irc thing, or maybe a yahoo group, where those of us who need the info can get it in email.

Or both. Use the yahoo group as a mailing list, and use their chat offering as the chat to be sent out to the group on a daily basis?

yahoo group would be wonderful..

Hardlinks 06-24-2005 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by MrAwesome
curious to know as well, what is your income per week/wonth/year? is this proven methods or are you hoping to prove something?


Quote:

Originally Posted by 2HousePlague
Just to prove a point, I'm taking on a handful of inexperienced "webmasters" who aren't making any money. Within 60 days, you should be making enough to occasionally reach for the check and take cabs home from the movies.

I think thats self explanatory :D

Nightwind 06-24-2005 11:31 PM

Haven't you guys heard of bookmarking? Just bookmark this thread and come back to it whenever you like without doing any searching. Irc could also work as someone suggested. :thumbsup

riddler 06-24-2005 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightwind
Haven't you guys heard of bookmarking? Just bookmark this thread and come back to it whenever you like without doing any searching. Irc could also work as someone suggested. :thumbsup

Thread will become huge and sig whores will invade and everything else, Why not have it somewhere controlled so its not totally flooded with 50 pages of bullshit.

That way it can be summarized to see whats what.

Tala 06-24-2005 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by riddler
Thread will become huge and sig whores will invade and everything else, Why not have it somewhere controlled so its not totally flooded with 50 pages of bullshit.

That way it can be summarized to see whats what.

yepyepyep :thumbsup

HAPPYPEEKERS 06-24-2005 11:37 PM

It was a pleasure meeting you in SD.. You are a sweety and it is very nice what you are doing for these people..

Very Kewl
xoxo

mrkris 06-24-2005 11:38 PM

email sent :)

Hardlinks 06-24-2005 11:40 PM

Simple solution is to have it in the newbie forums where it will get less banter from the sig whores and more visibility to the newbies. And possibly have it "looked" over once and awhile by the mods to clean any shit out of it.

Also will keep the thread on the main page for months..heh. :2 cents:

riddler 06-24-2005 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Hardlinks
Simple solution is to have it in the newbie forums where it will get less banter from the sig whores and more visibility to the newbies. And possibly have it "looked" over once and awhile by the mods to clean any shit out of it.

Also will keep the thread on the main page for months..heh. :2 cents:

The mods don't even clean up half the shit on GFY so what makes you think they will clean up a thread that is worth something? :1orglaugh

Hardlinks 06-24-2005 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by riddler
The mods don't even clean up half the shit on GFY so what makes you think they will clean up a thread that is worth something? :1orglaugh


Whether they do or not isnt really important, it will get maximum exposure to the people who need it if the threads are started over there. This thread here can be bumped as new or interesting developements happen in the other forum.

In a perfect world, they would set up a private forum for this to happen and make it a publicity deal for all. Giving the proper forum to do it in and also being the place where newbies could get a definate kick in the right direction.

Very good offer from 2HousePlague

Aly 06-24-2005 11:55 PM

There's part of me that really wants to sit down and stare at your chalkboard... But then I'll just end up rebelling and make the others lose their focus, and then you'll make me write lines or something...

It is neither appropriate nor amusing to distract the other students during class.
It is neither appropriate nor amusing to distract the other students during class.
It is neither appropriate nor amusing to distract the other students during class.
It is neither appropriate nor amusing to distract the other students during class.

...see, it's already a disaster! Good luck everybody! :thumbsup

MrAwesome 06-24-2005 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Hardlinks
Quote:
Originally Posted by MrAwesome
curious to know as well, what is your income per week/wonth/year? is this proven methods or are you hoping to prove something?


Quote:
Originally Posted by 2HousePlague
Just to prove a point, I'm taking on a handful of inexperienced "webmasters" who aren't making any money. Within 60 days, you should be making enough to occasionally reach for the check and take cabs home from the movies.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hardlinks
I think thats self explanatory :D


actually doesnt answer anything i asked, looking for real answers, no where in there does it say how much he earns, and if he can reach for checks doesnt prove anything as well, i am suprised no one is skepticol and asking real questions rather than signing up for what you dont even know, this could be tony robbins just blowing hot air up your ass, i to have shown interest in this guy as well, but am more interested in knowing if he knows what he is talking about and if he has used his own theories and applications and made money from it, and how much

Hardlinks 06-25-2005 12:00 AM

Sorry i was only pointing toward the question if he had something to prove. He clearly said he did..heh.

I think most people either know who 2HousePlague is and what he does as well as what he has accomplished, or others, have simply takin the time to look for themselves and see who/what he is.

This is GFY, i dont know if any JoeBlow could have a 2 page thread offering to help without atleast one person calling him as a nobody, and it hasnt happened here, that in itself speaks volumes.

Also to add..i think its smart to think like you are, not knocking it in any way at all. :)

MrAwesome 06-25-2005 12:03 AM

yeah i dont wanna get knee deep in it just to find out its all bunk, there are things i could do with the time and dont want to waste it, i allready make good money and if this guy can show me how to make even more then good for him, im just asking questions no one else is, i personally dont know the guy but will give him a try

hope it works out

Nightwind 06-25-2005 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by MrAwesome
actually doesnt answer anything i asked, looking for real answers, no where in there does it say how much he earns, and if he can reach for checks doesnt prove anything as well, i am suprised no one is skepticol and asking real questions rather than signing up for what you dont even know, this could be tony robbins just blowing hot air up your ass, i to have shown interest in this guy as well, but am more interested in knowing if he knows what he is talking about and if he has used his own theories and applications and made money from it, and how much

Most people probably asked some more important questions in their emails, i still don't know what exactly the deal is here, but i am sure we will find out soon enough. :)

sean416 06-25-2005 12:09 AM

edit/ 100 beeeeitch!


http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=451965
^^^^^
theres his life storey if you want to know.:)

Nightwind 06-25-2005 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by sean416
edit/ 100 beeeeitch!


http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=451965
^^^^^
theres his life storey if you want to know.:)

That should help with some of the skepticism here. :winkwink:

riddler 06-25-2005 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrAwesome
actually doesnt answer anything i asked, looking for real answers, no where in there does it say how much he earns, and if he can reach for checks doesnt prove anything as well, i am suprised no one is skepticol and asking real questions rather than signing up for what you dont even know, this could be tony robbins just blowing hot air up your ass, i to have shown interest in this guy as well, but am more interested in knowing if he knows what he is talking about and if he has used his own theories and applications and made money from it, and how much

2HP is a reputable guy in this industry, He worked with AFF for a while, Hes not some fly by not person.

2HousePlague 06-25-2005 12:58 AM

Cynicism, when it is motivated by a desire for truth is a healthy, essential thing. But before I scan my 1040 from 2004 and paste it here, I want remind every one that the scale of this "project" has far eclipsed anything I could have had in mind this morning.

The truth is, this IS a place where opportunism and meanness too often rear their heads. The noobs who seldom post and who, for the most part, don't dare to enter into threads filled with "people" they don't know, whose aims are (even to me, still) indecipherable -- I THINK robs this -- amazing, one of a kind in the history of everything EVER -- place of a value it contains. When I first appeared on GFY, I did what many of you still do, I watched and paid attention, and when I had worked up the courage -- I BECAME 2HousePlague here.

For a long time, I have lamented what seemed a wasteful use of such an incredible resource, but have accepted that GFY, like any "society", is made rich by the diversity of its voices -- it turns out now that I have received (that GFY has received) the opportunity to do something that has not been done before. Again, I did not premeditate this, I swear -- but here it is, and we MUST (all of us) see where it can go.

A few clarifications, I'm not a millionaire -- but I am working on it every day and night. Anyone interested in the particulars of my business, is free to ask, here or anywher else. I would rather have those discussions other than on this thread, only because it could be interpreted as a taint of self-promotion on something that I'd like to keep free of that -- at least my own self-promotion.

There is no single "project" I am recruiting anyone for -- I should make it clear that I am NOT hiring -- LOL. However, I feel generosity and gratitude to GFY, without which none of us would be here -- certainly not me.

What I would love to see happen is that this thread becomes a place where a commitment has been made by all who enter here to bring their best -- in the form of both questions and answers. I think it's a tragedy that the best ideas for being single-threaders fall away into the oblivion at the bottom of this page. Here, for the first time I can remember we have a chance to build something of value and to have it all reside conveniently, bookmarkably in ONE PLACE.

My role in this is an accident, but my commitment (if you will share it with me) is sincere and passionate. If you'd like to see who the man is on the soapbox take advantage of the Search tool, while it works -- I have been often absurd and irreverent, and silly -- this is also a place of Play -- but, very consistently in all my "serious threads" I have been a champion of openness and sharing -- something I think we have a problem with as an industry.

Come to this thread to meet people you don't know, to listen to me and ANYONE else who wishes to say something -- all I would say to those who come to post is "bring your best" -- let's make this something to be proud of. Our business achievements in this industry are staggering. Here is an opportunity for Adult to take pride in itself a bit -- how better to do that than in the sprit of self-less sharing, in an educational context?

What I think is dusturbing some people who don't know me, and who have (just as I asked) brought thoughtful questions to the dialogue is the fact that this sort of thing is ALWAYS a scam of some sort. They are right to wonder and ask. This does look too good to be true. But, today, of all days, when for the very first time in a long-time, there is good news and optimism in the air -- TODAY -- let us leave some of the past behind, and come again to our home GFY, as if for the first time.

I promise to all of you, and to Lensman, to do here in this thread what is has for SO LONG been my desire to do somewhere in some way for our amazing BIZ, put it in an impeccable light.

Please...


2HP

munki 06-25-2005 01:34 AM

Looking forward...

seeric 06-25-2005 02:49 AM

i love woj.


and, this thread is dj airek approved.

n00bs get your learn on from this cat. he knows it. seriously.

seacreast out!!!!!!!!

Lt. Space Dingo 06-25-2005 03:15 AM

I'm with You, brother!

Front row, center. Hands - clasped!

SexyScribe 06-25-2005 09:08 AM

Jack, I believe the words are: noblesse oblige. :upsidedow

What a wonderful idea.

**Can I sit next to Tala?

Tala 06-25-2005 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by SexyScribe
Jack, I believe the words are: noblesse oblige. :upsidedow

What a wonderful idea.

**Can I sit next to Tala?

Sure, come on. The desk over here is empty. :)

marketsmart 06-25-2005 09:41 AM

I have offered to set up and host a private board if someone can install the app. I would be really sweet of someone could get a private board set up hear. I think it would be a lot more productive than just running a super huge thread here.

Butrflied 06-25-2005 09:42 AM

Jack, this sounds like an amazing opportunity for anybody in the industry :) I'm sure all of us could learn great things from you .. best of luck to everybody who gets to participate, and don't squander this opportunity :winkwink:

Tala 06-25-2005 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marketsmart
I have offered to set up and host a private board if someone can install the app. I would be really sweet of someone could get a private board set up hear. I think it would be a lot more productive than just running a super huge thread here.

Super cool of you. :)

I'm offering to create a yahoo group for it. Gotta wait and see what Jackl says.

selena 06-25-2005 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by 2HousePlague
Sorry to lapse so long -- trying to stay on top of those e-mails. Thank you -- :)

The issue of women in the industry is truly a good place to start. So much of what is opined about this business derives from the ways our cilture and other cultures define the role of women. There are many places in the world -- some not so far away as you might guess -- where the role of women may be veneered in a rhetoric of reverence, but is harnessed, in practice, by their treatment as property, as a "reproductive resource", as the objects of men -- rather than something more balanced, more self-determining, more fulflled.

I have my own views on the subject, but rather than risk alienating anyone who may uphold a more traditional / conservative view of the gender roles, I will say simply that to understand our industy's situation in the national and global culture, you should study the ways in which gender biology gave rise to the fundamental behavior schism that exists in some way in all cultures of the world, and the ways in which that Basic Separation, present in each culture, has given rise to modern expectations of sexual propriety -- and therefore, to the various opinions of pornography you will encounter on the streets of the world.

The problem with the basic objection one hears about pornography is that it contains an enormous hypocrisy (or conflict of interest, depends how you look at it). It seems very few men are prepared to INTEGRATE WITH ALLOWANCE the behaviors in women they most appreciate in the pornographic material they consume. And for women, I would say the conundrum is knowing that their men will respond with sexual enthusiasm to one thing a woman may do at one moment, then condemn (to the point of the death penalty in some places) that same behvavior when observed at a less secure moment for him. Women also worry, I suspect, that even the most sincere demonstrations of approval during sex, veil a condemnation and misogyny that lies always ready to strike them at other moments. The combination of these two dynamics is what drives most men and women APART when they are pursuing sexual truth in themselves, even if they are in the same bed. Porn exists in the middle of that tug of war.



2HP


To make sure I am fully comprehending your post...

Are you saying that porn exists because of the chasm between what men what to see other women do versus what they want their own woman to do?

chase 06-25-2005 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by selena
To make sure I am fully comprehending your post...

Are you saying that porn exists because of the chasm between what men what to see other women do versus what they want their own woman to do?

I think that in itself is a conflict...I think they want to see their women be free in many ways, sexually, but they be scared of how that translates into reality, in an everyday way....
like, ok, say you have a wild threesome with your wife and another woman, and you have a blast-it's something you always fantasized about, and it exceeded your expectations...
but, then you start to wonder if you can satisfy your wife as well as the other woman did, and every time you catch her eye falling on an attractive girl, you wonder if she wants women more, and if she and the other woman are friends, you wonder if they are secretly hooking up behind your back....
I think it's hard for men to think of their pristine wife, mother to their kids as that wanton freak behind closed doors without having some internal conflict. I think that's why porn will always exist-even for the men who have wives or girlfriends, or partners, in the case of gay men. they can satiate the need for raw, unemotional physical release without the confusion it may cause if it were their actual real life partners engaging in raw, unemotional physical release.
Most men can pretty easily separate sex and love, but those same men have a hard time accepting that some women can, too, I think.

Nightwind 06-25-2005 11:10 AM

I have an empty phpbb2 forum doing nothing on my current domain all ready to go if needed.

Tala 06-25-2005 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by chase
I think that in itself is a conflict...I think they want to see their women be free in many ways, sexually, but they be scared of how that translates into reality, in an everyday way....
like, ok, say you have a wild threesome with your wife and another woman, and you have a blast-it's something you always fantasized about, and it exceeded your expectations...
but, then you start to wonder if you can satisfy your wife as well as the other woman did, and every time you catch her eye falling on an attractive girl, you wonder if she wants women more, and if she and the other woman are friends, you wonder if they are secretly hooking up behind your back....
I think it's hard for men to think of their pristine wife, mother to their kids as that wanton freak behind closed doors without having some internal conflict. I think that's why porn will always exist-even for the men who have wives or girlfriends, or partners, in the case of gay men. they can satiate the need for raw, unemotional physical release without the confusion it may cause if it were their actual real life partners engaging in raw, unemotional physical release.
Most men can pretty easily separate sex and love, but those same men have a hard time accepting that some women can, too, I think.

Well said. And if a woman weighs more than "perfect" or has looks that aren't exactly "perfect", then it's harder.

Americans in general are trained early on that "thin is in" and that "overweight = disgusting." What we aren't taught is that the human body isn't made to be one size fits all. Some of us are built to be tiny, some of us are built to be large, and yes, even those of us who are fat can be healthy.

Most of the time, when we aren't seen as perfect, we simply aren't acceptable. Now this goes for men, too. Lots of times, we're not seen as people.

Now I'm a big girl, and yes I can stand to lose some weight. But I'm built on a large frame, and if I lose so much weight as to weigh what most people would think of as normal, I'd be too thin and would look horrible.

What needs more realization, IMHO, is that no matter what shape, size, age, or ethnicity, we are all human beings, and as such, are all sexual beings. All of us need love, homes, health, and a good fuck.

Tala 06-25-2005 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Nightwind
I have an empty phpbb2 forum doing nothing on my current domain all ready to go if needed.

Awesome!! Can I link it to my empty Yahoo! group?

SexyScribe 06-25-2005 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Tala
Sure, come on. The desk over here is empty. :)

woohoo!!

**scoots in and sits with pen poised...

Tala 06-25-2005 11:22 AM

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/2HPdaily/

This is the Yahoo group. Join and I'll try to send out a daily digest for us.


Nightwind: What's the message board url? I'll link.

Nightwind 06-25-2005 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Tala
Awesome!! Can I link it to my empty Yahoo! group?

Sure, http://forum.teentropic.com - I haven't set up any categories or anything yet, but i can add whatever we might need if we decide to use it.


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