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AaronM 05-22-2005 09:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sonofsam
haha okay aaron, try and make yourself out to be the calm professional guy now... what a joke... how many times did i try and deal with you on ICQ and on the PHONE but you just wanted to bring it to the boards

More lies.

If my memory serves me correctly...You are the one who brought it to the boards.

Is this the 3rd time you have done that or were there others?

Not once did I bring it to the boards. You did.

HorseShit 05-22-2005 10:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny Dukes
If he refunds the $3600, wouldn't that kinda fuck him over in the defamation case, Sonofsam would have a good argument and his attornies would question why the money was refunded? :2 cents:
exactly right, pr0 must be retarded

sonofsam 05-22-2005 10:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AaronM
Where did you come up with this theory?
well lets see, the initial arangement was that i use the content to make a paysite and once i had it up and established, making sales... to pay the remainder... no?

but the moment i disliked what you sent me, it became copywrite infringement..... so aaron, explain to me... if i was happy with the content and went on to make my paysite... it would have been fine... but the moment i was upset with it, and posted samples here.. it became copywrite infringement... interesting.

AaronM 05-22-2005 10:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny Dukes
Was it the fact that he "infringed on your copyright" or the fact that you were embarrased that he showed the type of content you sent him?

I have openly admitted that I have shot some butt ugly girls and they were included in that package. Nothing to be embarrassed about.

sonofsam 05-22-2005 10:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AaronM
More lies.

If my memory serves me correctly...You are the one who brought it to the boards.

Is this the 3rd time you have done that or were there others?

Not once did I bring it to the boards. You did.
right... because if someone has you on their ICQ IGNORE, and don't answer their phone... they have many options other then GFY right?

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 05-22-2005 10:03 PM
$3600 = 0 Pics from AMPCONTENT.

NO REFUNDS

pr0 05-22-2005 10:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AaronM
More lies.

If my memory serves me correctly...You are the one who brought it to the boards.

Is this the 3rd time you have done that or were there others?

Not once did I bring it to the boards. You did.

Maybe because you have $3600 & he doesn't have anything?

Cmon dude....this just makes you look bad

you fucked someone over because they posted some ill looking chicks on gfy & it made you look bad, admit it

send this kid back a bone so he can pay his rent....& i got the strippers next time i see ya

rambler 05-22-2005 10:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny Dukes
If he refunds the $3600, wouldn't that kinda fuck him over in the defamation case, Sonofsam would have a good argument and his attornies would question why the money was refunded? :2 cents:
If what Aaron says is true, then he still has infringment(10.5k) and could still try to argue defamation and character assasination.

sonofsam 05-22-2005 10:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AaronM
I have openly admitted that I have shot some butt ugly girls and they were included in that package. Nothing to be embarrassed about.
YOU KEEP DODGING MY QUESTION...

if you CLAIM that you showed me EXACTLY what i was getting, then why in the other thread did you offer to refund the BALD sets?!

also... why is there a pregnant set?

also... why is there 60k images instead of the said 65k


these questions are valid questions, and deserve to be answered

CDSmith 05-22-2005 10:06 PM
This is one case where it would have been the wiser course of action to not take it to the boards at all. Had Sos asked around quietly as to who knows AaronM well, I'm sure he would have found someone willing to mediate for him if that's what was needed, and I'm equally sure this mess could have been avoided if not settle amicably.

It is what it is now, enjoy the drama.

pr0 05-22-2005 10:06 PM
You know what, fuck it......i don't even care

i stuck my nose in business that doesn't concern me....im out

AaronM 05-22-2005 10:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by spunky
Yes,but this kind of shit brings back the possibility of legal action on his part.You will have to use more to defend yourself against it

sos clearly does not care about legal action. He has nothing to lose.

I've already spent a lot of money with my local IP attorney about this issue. We've explored all of the angles.

I was hoping that Mike would learn a little something from this experience but so far, all I see is more lies. Nothing learned.

So Mike...What's it gonna take for you to learn when to stop lying and trying to hurt my business. How far and hard do I need to push this issue?

Danny Dukes 05-22-2005 10:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AaronM
I have openly admitted that I have shot some butt ugly girls and they were included in that package. Nothing to be embarrassed about.
See there you go Aaron, you had to bring up Ramona in this! She's not the best looking girl in the world, but to call her butt ugly is just wrong! :1orglaugh

sonofsam 05-22-2005 10:08 PM
here we go again with you pretending to be the nice guy by SPARING me the lawsuit, buddy.... get over yourself.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 05-22-2005 10:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by rambler
If what Aaron says is true, then he still has infringment(10.5k) and could still try to argue defamation and character assasination.

Yeah right...

He got stiffed and said somthing thats not defamation of character dim nut.
He didnt get what he wanted by anymeans obviously and when he was told to shove it...

Damn right he gonna post the pics.
DUH...

AaronM 05-22-2005 10:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sonofsam
i have not lied once aaron.

and btw, your threats arn't scaring anyone aaron, make no mistake.... just because you own a couple of guns, does NOT make you a gangster.

Have I ever threatened you with a gun? No.

Have I ever claimed to be a gangster? No.

I never threatened you. I gave you ultimatums. You chose poorly.

Deal with the repercussions.

comeplay 05-22-2005 10:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AaronM
I have openly admitted that I have shot some butt ugly girls and they were included in that package. Nothing to be embarrassed about.
Wheres all your good buttuglys guy?

AaronM 05-22-2005 10:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by pr0
So return the money, or liscense his content. And then take him to court for defimation, libel & infringement.

You can't just legally take his $ & say fuck off.

Thats not how business works bro.

Actually, yes..I can.

And yes, it is.

Like you said...You have bought content from me in the past. Let me catch you violating the license and I will do the same to you.

WTF do you think a license is issued for in the first place? More importantly...WTF good is issuing a license if you do not intend to enforce it?

I fully intend to enforce mine. If protecting my legal rights is not considered good business then I'm not sure what is.

sonofsam 05-22-2005 10:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AaronM
Have I ever threatened you with a gun? No.

Have I ever claimed to be a gangster? No.

I never threatened you. I gave you ultimatums. You chose poorly.

Deal with the repercussions.
i have the icq logs, lucky for you i am not a RAT.. and you don't need to say you're a gangster.. you keep saying it in subtle ways like

"last words will be said face to face"

"i'm not worried, i have plenty of friends in vancouver right down the road from you"

"i can't wait to meet you in person, i'm not exactly known for being a keyboard warrior, time will tell"



pleaaaase... you have both my addresses.. send over your fucking friends.. you think you can scare me with your keyboard judo?


Edit: i have the icq logs of the threats, not the gangster claims or gun claims... lol

AaronM 05-22-2005 10:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny Dukes
If he refunds the $3600, wouldn't that kinda fuck him over in the defamation case, Sonofsam would have a good argument and his attornies would question why the money was refunded? :2 cents:

That would be more about the infringement case. But you have the right idea.

Tempest 05-22-2005 10:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sonofsam
i don't want the 3600 back, nor would i accept it back... i am not in a good financial situation but i would never accept the money... why? to prove i have nothing to gain by lying.
You're an idiot... Letting AaronM just walk away with your money proves nothing except you'll let people rip you off... AaronM owes you the money back since he says he wouldn't even give you the license if you paid him the remaining funds. He can't say he's "revoking" the license since it was never in effect in the first place... He has money for lawyers (YOUR money by the way.... and you don't it sounds like) and so he can bully you into walking away... You were warned this sort of thing would happen.. You deserve what happens to you...

rambler 05-22-2005 10:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AlienQ
Yeah right...

He got stiffed and said somthing thats not defamation of character dim nut.
He didnt get what he wanted by anymeans obviously and when he was told to shove it...

Damn right he gonna post the pics.
DUH...
Like I said in my post: IF what Aaron says is true...

machinegunkelly 05-22-2005 10:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AaronM
That would be more about the infringement case. But you have the right idea.
Isn't it pretty expensive to sue someone in another country ?
Would probally cost more than you'd get out of anyone in this case .

BradM 05-22-2005 10:19 PM
Aaron just cool the barrel and take off. We all know who is right here and it's not Sam.

AdultMovies.bz 05-22-2005 10:20 PM
AARONM
These questions still remain unanswered... :2 cents:

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also... why is there a pregnant set?

also... why is there 60k images instead of the said 65k
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sonofsam 05-22-2005 10:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BradM
Aaron just cool the barrel and take off. We all know who is right here and it's not Sam.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...k_of_sheep.jpg

clearly some people DON'T just side with him, for the sake of siding with him...

AaronM 05-22-2005 10:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sonofsam
1: How I cut you a deal
i'm pretty sure many content producers would have gladly given me 750 sets for 4500

2: Showed you EXACTLY what you were getting
You did NOT show me what you were giving me, if that was true... why did you offer to refund the bald sets? i thought u said you told me exactly what you were giving me?

3:Sent you the content twice before receiving final payment so that you could get started on site design
you make it sound like it was a favor that you sent it 2 times? not my fault u didn't send it properly, and then lied about sending it through UPS and then changed your story to the mail office fucked it up and didn't give you a tracking number yadda yadda yadda

4: Tell them how you requested a refund BEFORE you got the content because you were broke and needed the money back
asking you for a refund makes a difference why? i asked it as a favor and offered to let you keep 500 of it for your troubles... its not like a DEMANDED a refund... i told you many times i didn't DEMAND one..

5: Tell them how you have continued to lie on GFY, ICQ, and the phone to various people about this.
I havn't lied about SHIT

6: Tell them that you had no right to publish the images without a license and were specifically told not to but did it anyway.
i had a right to use the content to make a paysite and make sales off it, as agreed upon with our arangement... but the moment i am not happy with the content and post samples on the forum it becomes "copywrite infringement" ? interesting... looks like someone can't handle someone not liking their content and being a baby about it.

7: Tell them how you came to GFY to damage my rep.


hell yes, i believe i was scammed and i'm pissed off...



now tell me what i have to gain by lying, since i already said i don't even want the money back?

1: Possibly.

2: Another lie.

3: It was sent properly and the second time you did get a tracking number...Although the tracking number was late because of the fuck up at the mailing center...The package was still tracked and received on time.
4: It makes a difference because you are trying to pass off that you requested a refund because you did not like the content. Then truth is you are broke and used the ugly sets in the content as another excuse to try to strong arm a refund out of me.
5: Yes, you have. Multiple times in this thread even.
6: Me allowing you to use the content for site design before being paid in full and issuing you a license does not give you the right to publish those images in an attempt to damage my credibility.
7: Thank you for publicly admitting that you came here to damage my rep. I'll bookmark this thread as yet another exhibit should this end up in court.

As for what you have to gain by lying and so forth...Fuck if I know.

You have nothing to gain from this thread either but you still decided to start it and bring this issue back to GFY. How in the hell am I supposed to know what makes your brain tick?

sonofsam 05-22-2005 10:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sonofsam
YOU KEEP DODGING MY QUESTION...

if you CLAIM that you showed me EXACTLY what i was getting, then why in the other thread did you offer to refund the BALD sets?!

also... why is there a pregnant set?

also... why is there 60k images instead of the said 65k


these questions are valid questions, and deserve to be answered

Keep dodging it YET again.

Clicky_Bucks 05-22-2005 10:24 PM
Aaron keeps trying to shut the kid up. I wonder why? If you are secure with your decision, Aaron, why are you concerned with him talking on GFY?

AaronM 05-22-2005 10:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sonofsam
well lets see, the initial arangement was that i use the content to make a paysite and once i had it up and established, making sales... to pay the remainder... no?

No is the correct answer.

Thank you for playing.

Now...Please excuse me...I am about to get a phone call from pr0 and he and I have a lot of catching up to do.

See ya later. :glugglug

CDSmith 05-22-2005 10:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sonofsam
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...k_of_sheep.jpg

clearly some people DON'T just side with him, for the sake of siding with him...
You may think I am on the side of Aaron, but the fact is my intent from the start (on the thread last month about this) to be on the side of finding a solution.

Honestly, unless one of you is prepared to make a legal move, I'd say this topic has about run it's course. What can be gained by continuing this line of argument, except for the sake of drama and sig views?

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 05-22-2005 10:26 PM
$3600.00 = 0 PICS at AMPCONTENT.

AdultMovies.bz 05-22-2005 10:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AaronM
No is the correct answer.

Thank you for playing.

Now...Please excuse me...I am about to get a phone call from pr0 and he and I have a lot of catching up to do.

See ya later. :glugglug

Convenient, he still hasn't answered:

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why is there a pregnant set?

why is there 60k images instead of the said 65k
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latinasojourn 05-22-2005 10:26 PM
i don't know much about this, so i'll just give the advice of an old guy.

it is am imperfect world.

the businessman does not get personal. (the operative word is businessman). he should do what is best for his BUSINESS.

machinegunkelly 05-22-2005 10:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AaronM
No is the correct answer.

Thank you for playing.

Now...Please excuse me...I am about to get a phone call from pr0 and he and I have a lot of catching up to do.

See ya later. :glugglug

So wait a second ..
He had right to use the content then while he continued to pay you off ?

Then how is it against the terms for him to post the content here if you agreed he can use it ?

There's gotta be something I'm missing here

AaronM 05-22-2005 10:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sonofsam
YOU KEEP DODGING MY QUESTION...

if you CLAIM that you showed me EXACTLY what i was getting, then why in the other thread did you offer to refund the BALD sets?!

also... why is there a pregnant set?

also... why is there 60k images instead of the said 65k


these questions are valid questions, and deserve to be answered
While I wait from pr0's call....


These questions were answered many times in one of the other threads about this issue.

Why should I continue to answer them time and time again?

Do you suffer from short term memory loss?

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 05-22-2005 10:28 PM
Based on what I am reading now...

AaronM is offically a crook.
IN my book.

sonofsam 05-22-2005 10:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sonofsam
YOU KEEP DODGING MY QUESTION...

if you CLAIM that you showed me EXACTLY what i was getting, then why in the other thread did you offer to refund the BALD sets?!

also... why is there a pregnant set?

also... why is there 60k images instead of the said 65k


these questions are valid questions, and deserve to be answered
dodging these questions for the 3rd time

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 05-22-2005 10:30 PM
SOS you spent 3600.00 and didnt get dick for it...
Ya got Conned and robbed.
Consult an attorney dude.

jonesy 05-22-2005 10:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AaronM
Actually, yes..I can.

And yes, it is.

Like you said...You have bought content from me in the past. Let me catch you violating the license and I will do the same to you.

WTF do you think a license is issued for in the first place? More importantly...WTF good is issuing a license if you do not intend to enforce it?

I fully intend to enforce mine. If protecting my legal rights is not considered good business then I'm not sure what is.
:1orglaugh this tired topic again?!

aaron give him his releases for the shit he bought.

yea SOS is a fuckwad but why deal with this shit?

this will never go to court, you know this.

no court will give a shit, about what SOS posted about you at GFY or how you tried to help him out.

you know the reasons for this too.

but a court will give a shit about you not fullfilling a purchase by withholding goods promised.


aaron your a level headed, smart cat. .... most of the time :1orglaugh

let it go.


and SOS dont take this as me siding with you. your a fucking moron in my book.


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