Cigarette makers telling people not to smoke?? - GoFuckYourself.com

xlogger · 02-28-2005, 07:02 PM

Ok so cigarette makers are smart; they have market cigarettes as 'cool'. But who has seen the commercial from philipmorris (one of the biggest cig makers in the world) where they tell people about how to quit smoking and the healthrisks. They even give a website for who need help quiting (www.philipmorrisusa.com). This is what they come up with in their brain storm, remember this is the same company that in 1979 made a big thinktank to make cigs 'cool' in which they succeeded. In the brain storm they even talked about putting gum and other bullshit in the cig packs to make it appealing to the younger youth.

What kind of a business tatick is this??

Discuss.

asuna · 02-28-2005, 07:03 PM

it just to quiet down all the protesters, they know they can tell everyone to stop smoking, doesn't mean they will listen, some will, and some won't

Spunky · 02-28-2005, 07:04 PM

So everybody and their brother doesn't sue their ass

UniversalPass Pete · 02-28-2005, 07:05 PM

That's like porn stars telling people not to fuck!

thaifan99 · 02-28-2005, 07:08 PM

This big class action has got them scared again.......they ,ight actually lose this one

Babagirls · 02-28-2005, 07:12 PM

1) Smokers arent gonna quit because of a commercial. its like a crackhead quiting because he saw a "Just Say No" ad...it just doesnt work. Smokers quit when they WANT to, not when they're TOLD do. and the cig companys know this. (they know all the little facts about smokers)

2) To shut up protestors and to SEEM like they "really care", especially with all those commercials about "TRUTH" that are out now (where people go to these companys' buildings and start talkin shit about them.

xlogger · 02-28-2005, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by spunky

So everybody and their brother doesn't sue their ass

This commercial is going to make people not to sue? forget that..

Actual SECRET 1979 Big Tobacco brainstorm session script.
(btw by this time they know the healthrisks of cigs, but they deny it)

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CUT TO SEVERAL BUSINESSMEN SITTING AT A TABLE.

TOBACCO EXEC: So, any new product ideas for our younger tobacco chewers?

MAN 1: We've discussed producing a fruit flavored tobacco.

SFX: LAUGH TRACK

TOBACCO EXEC: Perhaps we can compare data with Life Savers candies.

SFX: LAUGH TRACK FROM "AUDIENCE"

MAN 2: Would it be possible to include bubble gum in the package?

SFX: LAUGH TRACK

MAN 3: We could surround the tobacco itself with a sugar coating ... sugar coating -- like a ...

MAN 4: ... like a tobacco gumball!

SFX: LAUGH TRACK / APPLAUSE

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xlogger · 02-28-2005, 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Babagirls

1) Smokers arent gonna quit because of a commercial. its like a crackhead quiting because he saw a "Just Say No" ad...it just doesnt work. Smokers quit when they WANT to, not when they're TOLD do. and the cig companys know this. (they know all the little facts about smokers)

2) To shut up protestors and to SEEM like they "really care", especially with all those commercials about "TRUTH" that are out now (where people go to these companys' buildings and start talkin shit about them.

They dont give a flying fuck about anyone. All this commercial does is keep feeding kids that cigs are bad and if you want to rebel against your parents please smoke up. They are smart buisness people. From now on we should just rename lungcanver and name it philipmorris.

philipmorris

Wizzo · 02-28-2005, 07:24 PM

It was part of the govt. settlement, they have to make those commericals, along with a few other requirements and in return no one is allowed to sue them anymore...

tungsten · 02-28-2005, 07:26 PM

i just saw their ads recently, quite a tactic actually

wargames · 02-28-2005, 07:27 PM

It's like a shoemaker telling a consumer not to wear shoes.

xlogger · 02-28-2005, 07:34 PM

Another GAY brainstorm; in which they sold and marketed "light" cigarettes but they are as strong as the normal ones. No difference at all!! This one actually backfired, one lady got cancer and she sues and won like $650M..ROFL!!

Rich · 02-28-2005, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Babagirls

1) Smokers arent gonna quit because of a commercial. its like a crackhead quiting because he saw a "Just Say No" ad...it just doesnt work. Smokers quit when they WANT to, not when they're TOLD do. and the cig companys know this. (they know all the little facts about smokers)

It's not about getting people to quit smoking, they let the product itself retain customers. The ads supposed to deter kids from picking up the habit. Unfortunately, getting kids to start smoking is what it's all about for them, always has been. From Joe Camel to the new pineapple flavored cigarettes they have. I mean, smokers want their smokes to taste like smoke, pineapple cigs serve no purpose other than appealing to 11-16 year old kids.

That's why they don't care about making anti-smoking ads, they know the type of kids who start smoking are the kind who don't listen to what they're told by "authority" figures. If anything, the more anti-smoking ads, the more likely these types of kids will take up smoking. As long as they keep paying Hollywood exec's to make the "cool" characters smoke, kids are doomed.

sickkittens · 02-28-2005, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by UniversalPass Pete

That's like porn stars telling people not to fuck!

No. It's like porn stars telling people not to have unprotected sex w/ people they don't know.

xlogger · 02-28-2005, 07:47 PM

You cant ban cigs all together. Remember when was alcohol banned completely? It just wont work. Making commercials dont work, telling people not to smoke makes them smoke more. Looks like we cant put a stop to cigs.

Well maybe if we make them 'uncool'. Thats impossible.

Doctor Dre · 02-28-2005, 07:57 PM

Here in canada there are anti smoking ads on every pack of smoke ... big ones

xlogger · 02-28-2005, 07:59 PM

well thanks fuckers, this was an essay i was looking to do in college, needed some imput. Rich your post was the best one, i will use that for sure.

What if we market porn as 'cool' like these cigarette companies did. Imagin the impace on the our porn community. That will take us to another level. People addicted to porn, imagin that ( some people already are though

).

mcmc · 02-28-2005, 08:01 PM

as long as they sell it, they dont mean it

QuaWee · 02-28-2005, 08:01 PM

beacuse of lawsuit verdict and its just reverse psychology. people see the warning lables on cigs and still smoke. damn shame so many people are so stupid

mcmc · 02-28-2005, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by QuaWee

beacuse of lawsuit verdict and its just reverse psychology. people see the warning lables on cigs and still smoke. damn shame so many people are so stupid

Smokers are addicted, not stupid.

Rich · 02-28-2005, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by xlogger

Another GAY brainstorm; in which they sold and marketed "light" cigarettes but they are as strong as the normal ones. No difference at all!! This one actually backfired, one lady got cancer and she sues and won like $650M..ROFL!!

Backfired? 650 million is chicken feed for big tobacco. On the other hand, hundreds of thousands if not millions of people have "cut back" to lights or extra lights instead of quitting. And as you said, they're basically just as bad for you as regulars.

Rich · 02-28-2005, 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xlogger

well thanks fuckers, this was an essay i was looking to do in college, needed some imput. Rich your post was the best one, i will use that for sure.

What if we market porn as 'cool' like these cigarette companies did. Imagin the impace on the our porn community. That will take us to another level. People addicted to porn, imagin that ( some people already are though

).

Thanks dude, glad I could help. Good luck with your paper.

xlogger · 02-28-2005, 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich

Backfired? 650 million is chicken feed for big tobacco.

It was in the BIG billions though, i think she settled for 650M or something like that, i dont have the whole info.

devilspost · 02-28-2005, 08:30 PM

It was/is a way to get thier advertising back on TV. it is brilliant.

emthree · 02-28-2005, 08:38 PM

The devil is assisting them

Rep · 02-28-2005, 08:45 PM

philip morris still gets to promote their brand and looks good in the public eye, win-win.

xlogger · 02-28-2005, 08:50 PM

Based on a 1994 Big SECRET Tobacco brainstorm script.

Quote:

*SEVERAL BUSINESSMEN SITTING AT A TABLE*

TOBACCO EXEC: The image of tobacco should be cooler and more youthful. Any ideas?

MAN 1: Let's focus on targeting trend setting "hipsters".

TOBACCO EXEC: "Hipsters," yes. Young people will follow these "hipsters" in hope that they themselves will become "hipsters."

MAN 2: But how does one reach these trend setting "hipsters?"

MAN 3: We could go to trendy bars and have trendy restroom attendants distribute our product! We could even have field offices dedicated entirely to preserving our trendiness!

MAN 4: With a properly coordinated marketing effort, we could be trendy by next fiscal year.

xlogger · 02-28-2005, 09:02 PM

MILLIONS of $ on "research".

TheMob · 02-28-2005, 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rep

philip morris still gets to promote their brand and looks good in the public eye, win-win.

Yeah, win-win for Phillip AND Morris.

The government should start charging a $20 tax per pack. That's the only thing that works.

xlogger · 02-28-2005, 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMob

Yeah, win-win for Phillip AND Morris.

The government should start charging a $20 tax per pack. That's the only thing that works.

Are you kidding? Will they take the risk of not getting the votes from the smokers? i dont thinks so..

TheMob · 02-28-2005, 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xlogger

Are you kidding? Will they take the risk of not getting the votes from the smokers? i dont thinks so..

I keep forgetting this 2 party system.

That they would let PM advertise their brand at all is pathetic.

warlock5 · 02-28-2005, 09:33 PM

Kind of like flavored cigars

(Drew Estate rules)

xlogger · 03-01-2005, 12:26 PM

lets get some smart inputs.

fl_prn_str · 03-01-2005, 12:29 PM

Phillip Morris is a good co

........and btw it changed its name to Altria.

Stacey_JoinRightNow · 03-01-2005, 12:38 PM

that's what u call the power of "REVERSE psychology"

xlogger · 03-01-2005, 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fl_prn_str

..and btw it changed its name to Altria.

yeah..

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xlogger Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: NY Posts: 9,507	Cigarette makers telling people not to smoke?? Ok so cigarette makers are smart; they have market cigarettes as 'cool'. But who has seen the commercial from philipmorris (one of the biggest cig makers in the world) where they tell people about how to quit smoking and the healthrisks. They even give a website for who need help quiting (www.philipmorrisusa.com). This is what they come up with in their brain storm, remember this is the same company that in 1979 made a big thinktank to make cigs 'cool' in which they succeeded. In the brain storm they even talked about putting gum and other bullshit in the cig packs to make it appealing to the younger youth. What kind of a business tatick is this?? Discuss. __________________ ---------- XLOGGER [REFLECTED] [OH]

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xlogger Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: NY Posts: 9,507	well thanks fuckers, this was an essay i was looking to do in college, needed some imput. Rich your post was the best one, i will use that for sure. What if we market porn as 'cool' like these cigarette companies did. Imagin the impace on the our porn community. That will take us to another level. People addicted to porn, imagin that ( some people already are though ). __________________ ---------- XLOGGER [REFLECTED] [OH]

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