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Old 09-22-2004, 09:10 PM   #1
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Beheaded American: how long was he alive after they cut his head off?

Just saw the video....he's obviously alive when the guy was holding his head up, you can see him mouthing something and moving his eyes ! !

How long does it take to die when one gets beheaded? Till the brain runs out of oxygen, (10 minutes, 5 minutes, 3 minutes?)

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Old 09-22-2004, 09:12 PM   #2
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Isn't it like 5 seconds?
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Isn't it like 5 seconds?

i dont know, but he was obviously still alive and it was more than 5 seconds after they beheaded him.
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i dont know, but he was obviously still alive and it was more than 5 seconds after they beheaded him.
Are you being serious?

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i dont know, but he was obviously still alive and it was more than 5 seconds after they beheaded him.

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During the times that the French used the guillotine, they said that people would grab the head as soon as it fell in the basket and show the victim their body . . . . I don't know if you remember the movie Wolfen. . . there was a scene where a werewolf decapitated this guy and as his head rolled down the street he watched himself shooting a shotgun. Supposedly, that is how is would happen.

I thought the guy was making noise for quite a while too. . . . maybe the sound was not synched with the video
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Just saw the video....he's obviously alive when the guy was holding his head up, you can see him mouthing something and moving his eyes ! !

How long does it take to die when one gets beheaded? Till the brain runs out of oxygen, (10 minutes, 5 minutes, 3 minutes?)

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The current medical consensus is that life does survive, for a period of roughly thirteen seconds, varying slightly depending on the victim's build, health and the immediate circumstances of the decapitation. The simple act of removing a head from a body is not what kills the brain, rather, it is the lack of oxygen and other important chemicals provided in the bloodstream. To quote Dr. Ron Wright "The 13 seconds is the amount of high energy phosphates that the cytochromes in the brain have to keep going without new oxygen and glucose" The precise post-execution lifespan will depend on how much oxygen, and other chemicals, were in the brain at the point of decapitation; however, eyes could certainly move and blink.
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Just saw the video....he's obviously alive when the guy was holding his head up, you can see him mouthing something and moving his eyes ! !

How long does it take to die when one gets beheaded? Till the brain runs out of oxygen, (10 minutes, 5 minutes, 3 minutes?)

????
how about we try it on you and you can tell us.
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Old 09-22-2004, 09:35 PM   #13
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That was a pretty brutal video but it's something everyone should watch ESPECIALLY if they still think going to Iraq was a good idea and are even THINKING of voting for Bush. This is the real world and people need to see it for what it is, not for what the sterilized media lets us see.
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how many time you drunks or cocksuckers have road rolled or killed some one, did you wait and see how long it tooK ?? guess not cause you a cockshit of MAN in you is actually a chicken
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how many time you drunks or cocksuckers have road rolled or killed some one, did you wait and see how long it tooK ?? guess not cause you a cockshit of MAN in you is actually a chicken
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The current medical consensus is that life does survive, for a period of roughly thirteen seconds, varying slightly depending on the victim's build, health and the immediate circumstances of the decapitation. The simple act of removing a head from a body is not what kills the brain, rather, it is the lack of oxygen and other important chemicals provided in the bloodstream. To quote Dr. Ron Wright "The 13 seconds is the amount of high energy phosphates that the cytochromes in the brain have to keep going without new oxygen and glucose" The precise post-execution lifespan will depend on how much oxygen, and other chemicals, were in the brain at the point of decapitation; however, eyes could certainly move and blink.
Different parts of the body die at different times. Very morbid.
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very sad, i do not want to watch this video.. fucking islamic mutherfuckers
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very sad, i do not want to watch this video.. fucking islamic mutherfuckers
Nor do I. The things you see will stay with you your whole life. I don't need that kinda shit popping up in my brain during nightmares.

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Old 09-22-2004, 09:51 PM   #20
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I refuse to watch these videos.
Ill take your word for it.
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Is it the first american beheading or the second that your talking about?
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Are you serious? I don't watch those videos, and now I know why.

I think they can live about 10-15 seconds before the brain dies.
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As long as your brain has oxygen and blood circulating, theoretically you should be able to keep your consciousness for a bit.

And then your soul after that sees it all too but there is no more physical pain sensation, just your mind now having to unexpectingly come to terms with the fact you are still able to think without having a body anymore.
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The first.
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too bad! im not gonna watch those videos! im sorry for the victims!
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too bad! im not gonna watch those videos! im sorry for the victims!
dont be sorry for the victims, thank bush instead, none of this shit would have happened if u all never went to IRAQ. But now Bush wants more MONEY! Make sure you vote for him AGAIN so you see more of those phat videos!



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As long as your brain has oxygen and blood circulating, theoretically you should be able to keep your consciousness for a bit.

And then your soul after that sees it all too but there is no more physical pain sensation, just your mind now having to unexpectingly come to terms with the fact you are still able to think without having a body anymore.
Is consciousness a function of our brain, or is it independent of our brain? That't the question. There is some evidence to suggest that it is.
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I thought the guy was making noise for quite a while too. . . . maybe the sound was not synched with the video
yeah that's more like it i think... these guys are not up with the latest technology that's for sure... it's always grainy and delayed
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yeah that's more like it i think... these guys are not up with the latest technology that's for sure... it's always grainy and delayed
This was synched. The sounds matched the movements (unfortunately).
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This was synched. The sounds matched the movements (unfortunately).
really? i played this one with the sound off, didn't really want to hear the sound while i was eating my breakfast

(ps: the link was sent to me from a buddy, wasn't too sure what it was gonna be at first)
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Is consciousness a function of our brain, or is it independent of our brain? That't the question. There is some evidence to suggest that it is.
THats a good question...

Either way, its a very long 13 seconds...

Absolutely horrible to think about...
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Is it the first american beheading or the second that your talking about?


the first video was HORRIBLE, i'm sure he went through the same process.


but hte second video is the one i'm referring to...they cut off his head pretty fast (compared to the other guy) and when the guy holds it up , the camera zooms in and you can see him trying to speak and moving his eyes around
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Is consciousness a function of our brain, or is it independent of our brain? That't the question. There is some evidence to suggest that it is.
I've had an interest in what happens after death for a long time and have researched it quite a bit.

The conclusion I've come to is no, consciousness is not a function of our brain. It is a function of our soul. However, while connected to a physical body, the consciousness becomes tied into the physical sensations therein.

Its much easier to explain the vast depth and abilities of our minds if you look at it with this broader perspective.

Memory is one of the clues that leads me to believe its not actually stored within the physical body, but offsite in the realms and dimensions where souls operate. Just look at a human brain. I can't accept from a visual analysis standpoint that all of our knowledge, reasoning, memory, creativity, etc. can all be coming just from that blob. No way.

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I remember reading somewhere one time, something about how its possible to live for up to a minute after you've been beheaded.

Back when women were still being beheaded for being witches and all that shit, a "doctor" asked a woman to keep blinking her eyes for as long as she was alive after they diced her head off.
She blinked for 30 seconds and then stopped. The doctor said her name, she opened her eyes, and looked right at him, and then died.
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I remember reading somewhere one time, something about how its possible to live for up to a minute after you've been beheaded.

Back when women were still being beheaded for being witches and all that shit, a "doctor" asked a woman to keep blinking her eyes for as long as she was alive after they diced her head off.
She blinked for 30 seconds and then stopped. The doctor said her name, she opened her eyes, and looked right at him, and then died.
Yeah but does your heart have anything to do with "living" then? If you're beheaded then I take it your heart goes 1st.
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If you watch those videos, watch them with the SOUND OFF.

You may forget the images, but you will never forget the blood-curdling screaming.
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I remember reading somewhere one time, something about how its possible to live for up to a minute after you've been beheaded.

Back when women were still being beheaded for being witches and all that shit, a "doctor" asked a woman to keep blinking her eyes for as long as she was alive after they diced her head off.
She blinked for 30 seconds and then stopped. The doctor said her name, she opened her eyes, and looked right at him, and then died.
I've heard the same anecdote years ago except that it was a scientifically minded man being beheaded.
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I've had an interest in what happens after death for a long time and have researched it quite a bit.

The conclusion I've come to is no, consciousness is not a function of our brain. It is a function of our soul. However, while connected to a physical body, the consciousness becomes tied into the physical sensations therein.

Its much easier to explain the vast depth and abilities of our minds if you look at it with this broader perspective.

Memory is one of the clues that leads me to believe its not actually stored within the physical body, but offsite in the realms and dimensions where souls operate. Just look at a human brain. I can't accept from a visual analysis standpoint that all of our knowledge, reasoning, memory, creativity, etc. can all be coming just from that blob. No way.


They can fire up random memories by stimulating synapses in the brain.. memories are stored in the brain. Thats pretty much all there is to it.
Consciousness is tied directly to the brain... as is memory, personality, knowledge, creativity which are all altered by damage to the brain. If it wasn't, someone with a gradually increasing brain disorder like Alzheimer's Disease wouldn't slowly lose their personality memories etc.

Don't underestimate that blob, don't judge a brain by it's cover, we will no doubt not fully understand it for centuries.
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They can fire up random memories by stimulating synapses in the brain.. memories are stored in the brain. Thats pretty much all there is to it.
Consciousness is tied directly to the brain... as is memory, personality, knowledge, creativity which are all altered by damage to the brain. If it wasn't, someone with a gradually increasing brain disorder like Alzheimer's Disease wouldn't slowly lose their personality memories etc.

Don't underestimate that blob, don't judge a brain by it's cover, we will no doubt not fully understand it for centuries.
Consciousness is FILTERED through the brain. There is some evidence that it is independent.
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That was a pretty brutal video but it's something everyone should watch ESPECIALLY if they still think going to Iraq was a good idea and are even THINKING of voting for Bush. This is the real world and people need to see it for what it is, not for what the sterilized media lets us see.
I agree, to do otherwise is very ignorant. These are real people, and if you are sending them over there to do your bidding you should be aware of their plight. I didn't watch this video, but I have seen the other morbid ones before it, but at the same time I don't support the war in any event.
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Old 09-23-2004, 01:21 AM   #50
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Consciousness is tied directly to the brain... as is memory, personality, knowledge, creativity which are all altered by damage to the brain. If it wasn't, someone with a gradually increasing brain disorder like Alzheimer's Disease wouldn't slowly lose their personality memories etc.
If KRL's theory is true, there would have to be some sort of a gateway between our bodies and this other place. The brain could very well be that basic gateway.

If it becomes damaged in certain areas, then certain signals couldn't be sent to whatever realm this other place exists.

Not saying I believe that. Just one of many theories nobody will ever be able to prove or disprove.
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