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Old 08-07-2004, 07:25 AM   #1
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The TRUTH about sponsor hosted galleries..MUST READ

I host a shitload of sponsor hosted galleries on my servers. As such I am able to track every hit they get and every click the surfer makes on them. These results are not complete but give a pretty good picture.


Program CTR

Bondage Dollars 2.44
Brain Cash 3.09
Creative Coin 1.86
Epic Cash 1.18
Extreme Paychecks 1.00
Fat Paychecks 2.33
How I Got Rich 1.93
Jovi Cash 4.12
Lightspeed Cash 2.42
Porn Kings 1.01
Virtuagirl 1.74
Xfusion Cash 2.19

The above reflects ONLY click thrus from the galleries to the paysite, it does not reflect signups. I only listed programs that I sent over 10k to galleries.
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Old 08-07-2004, 07:26 AM   #2
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no offence but unless you also list the way in which the clicks were generated those figures mean about as much to us as master blogger
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Old 08-07-2004, 07:27 AM   #3
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no offence but unless you also list the way in which the clicks were generated those figures mean about as much to us as master blogger
From THEIR sponsor hosted galleries on my servers
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From THEIR sponsor hosted galleries on my servers
still means squatt.

text link, thumbnail preview etc etc
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Old 08-07-2004, 07:45 AM   #5
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still means squatt.

text link, thumbnail preview etc etc
90% text links
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Old 08-07-2004, 07:48 AM   #6
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Thanks Choker good info.

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Old 08-07-2004, 07:56 AM   #7
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nice, i would like to see more sponsors though, and sales.
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Old 08-07-2004, 08:01 AM   #8
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I host a shitload of sponsor hosted galleries on my servers. As such I am able to track every hit they get and every click the surfer makes on them. These results are not complete but give a pretty good picture.


Program CTR

Bondage Dollars 2.44
Brain Cash 3.09
Creative Coin 1.86
Epic Cash 1.18
Extreme Paychecks 1.00
Fat Paychecks 2.33
How I Got Rich 1.93
Jovi Cash 4.12
Lightspeed Cash 2.42
Porn Kings 1.01
Virtuagirl 1.74
Xfusion Cash 2.19

The above reflects ONLY click thrus from the galleries to the paysite, it does not reflect signups. I only listed programs that I sent over 10k to galleries.
Thanks for sharing Tom. I noticed that you didnt add nastydollar's ctr or do you only make your own galleries to promote them in your iframes.
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Old 08-07-2004, 08:05 AM   #9
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Thanks for sharing Tom. I noticed that you didnt add nastydollar's ctr or do you only make your own galleries to promote them in your iframes.
Well I don't have Nasty Dollars hosted galleries. the ones I have I made myself from their content. For this test I wanted to see the CTR of each programs own hosted galleries. 95% of the clicks on the braincash galleries are single imbedded movie galleries. I have been harping on how they get better ctr than regular movie galleries for years now. Every test I run just further proves that point, to me at least. LOL
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Old 08-07-2004, 08:09 AM   #10
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90% text links
in that case those figures mean zip unless of course everyone is going to be using the exact same text links on every tgp / free site they build

but they are reasonably good figure for you but others shouldnt expect to see the same numbers
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Old 08-07-2004, 08:11 AM   #11
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I'm not sure that click-throughs are a useful metric.
Surely what's relevant is average revenue per gallery visit?

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Old 08-07-2004, 08:14 AM   #12
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in that case those figures mean zip unless of course everyone is going to be using the exact same text links on every tgp / free site they build

but they are reasonably good figure for you but others shouldnt expect to see the same numbers
What is your problem dude? This traffic is from OTHERS.
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Old 08-07-2004, 08:17 AM   #13
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What is your problem dude? This traffic is from OTHERS.
kinda hard educating the rookies

Thanks for the info found a program i have not tested yet ;)
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great info. Thanks for sharing
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Well I don't have Nasty Dollars hosted galleries. the ones I have I made myself from their content. For this test I wanted to see the CTR of each programs own hosted galleries. 95% of the clicks on the braincash galleries are single imbedded movie galleries. I have been harping on how they get better ctr than regular movie galleries for years now. Every test I run just further proves that point, to me at least. LOL
Btw, i will be soon back to buy your traffic again
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Old 08-07-2004, 08:23 AM   #16
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I'm not sure that click-throughs are a useful metric.
Surely what's relevant is average revenue per gallery visit?
^^^ What he said
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I host a shitload of sponsor hosted galleries on my servers. As such I am able to track every hit they get and every click the surfer makes on them. These results are not complete but give a pretty good picture.


Program CTR

Bondage Dollars 2.44
Brain Cash 3.09
Creative Coin 1.86
Epic Cash 1.18
Extreme Paychecks 1.00
Fat Paychecks 2.33
How I Got Rich 1.93
Jovi Cash 4.12
Lightspeed Cash 2.42
Porn Kings 1.01
Virtuagirl 1.74
Xfusion Cash 2.19

The above reflects ONLY click thrus from the galleries to the paysite, it does not reflect signups. I only listed programs that I sent over 10k to galleries.

Some fo those numbers are actually shocking. While some have agressive linking (shows lower CTR for some reason) the least agressive seem to be doing better. Interesting.
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Old 08-07-2004, 10:06 AM   #18
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choker...I remember you saying something about needing hosted galleries for your system. Are you still needing them? I have around 90 of mine lying around.
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choker...I remember you saying something about needing hosted galleries for your system. Are you still needing them? I have around 90 of mine lying around.
I have a ton too. I kept meaning to upload them. Sorry for being so lazy.
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Old 08-07-2004, 10:34 AM   #21
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Choker,

Thanks for the feedback.

Reminds me that we need to send you all of our latest galleries.
We have about 500+ more for ya!
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I'm not sure that click-throughs are a useful metric.
Surely what's relevant is average revenue per gallery visit?
How is it not a usefull metric? Would you link to sponsor hosted galleries that have .0001 CTR on them? Of course it is not the only factor to consider, but it is extremely important. You have to get the surfer to the paysite before you can even try to get his credit card out of his wallet.
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why is the CTR on JoviCash so good? probably because it's more niche-y.
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why is the CTR on JoviCash so good? probably because it's more niche-y.
Yeah... and this will make it even more puzzling..
try going to their site, click "hosted galleries", enter a random ID and click GENERATE LINKS

There you go.. every savvy surfer on the planet has access to all the JoviCash hosted galleries..

I can't but wonder why on earth program owners can't put their hosted galleries inside the webmaster area instead of having them out in the open.. or maybe, they wanna be the next thehun...
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choker,do u still sell gallery traffic?
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choker,do u still sell gallery traffic?
Yes just started selling them again http://chokertraffic.com
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Old 08-07-2004, 07:56 PM   #28
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Thanks for the info choker. The info made it to my clipboard.
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Thanks for the info Choker.
Seems that Virtuagirl has pretty good results for a softcore product Work pays and we're working hard here at TotemCash!
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no offence but unless you also list the way in which the clicks were generated those figures mean about as much to us as master blogger
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How is it not a usefull metric? Would you link to sponsor hosted galleries that have .0001 CTR on them? Of course it is not the only factor to consider, but it is extremely important. You have to get the surfer to the paysite before you can even try to get his credit card out of his wallet.
Sure CTR is interesting and has some relevance. But some galleries can produce high clickthroughs, but pathetic revenue. While others can produce comparatively low clickthroughs but great revenue. Ultimately the only metric that matters is which gallery produces the most revenue for a given number of clicks from an identical traffic source.
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Yeah I am not surprised by those ratios. Click throughs on hosted galleries are not the greatest and some hosted galleries are just awful. I think our gay galleries though would get better ratios than the ones you posted though.

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Sure CTR is interesting and has some relevance. But some galleries can produce high clickthroughs, but pathetic revenue.
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Excellent, many thanks.

Being new, green and whatever, I have an interest in building my traffic and business but could use some decent honest advice. Is there a good time for us to chat? I'm in the UK so time differences mean we could miss each other.

Feel free to contact me & I'll keep trying to get hold of you too

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Yes just started selling them again http://chokertraffic.com
Just wondering why the rule changed to no more pics on html?
Just wondering, that's all, I liked the fact that we could do that in the past..
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I host a shitload of sponsor hosted galleries on my servers. As such I am able to track every hit they get and every click the surfer makes on them. These results are not complete but give a pretty good picture.


Program CTR

Bondage Dollars 2.44
Brain Cash 3.09
Creative Coin 1.86
Epic Cash 1.18
Extreme Paychecks 1.00
Fat Paychecks 2.33
How I Got Rich 1.93
Jovi Cash 4.12
Lightspeed Cash 2.42
Porn Kings 1.01
Virtuagirl 1.74
Xfusion Cash 2.19

The above reflects ONLY click thrus from the galleries to the paysite, it does not reflect signups. I only listed programs that I sent over 10k to galleries.
Wow
Feels great to be #1

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Thanks for the info Choker.
Seems that Virtuagirl has pretty good results for a softcore product Work pays and we're working hard here at TotemCash!
Is it working that well after all the spyware bullshit arround ? Do people still trust pornsites to download a program ?
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Well, we make big efforts not to look like a porn site and we display a strong 'No AdWare, No SpyWare, No Dialer' on our front page to reassure the surfer and keep the download numbers steady.

I guess VirtuaGirl 2 with pornstars and a much bigger size helped us to counter the effects of the spyware / adware wave.

Chocker, thanks for posting that info, it pushes me to add that kind of monitoring on all our galleries in TotemCash. It'll help webmaster to use the best hosted galleries we provide and help us to design better ones...
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