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Old 07-30-2004, 05:09 PM   #1
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epassporte, signed up a week ago, then 1 week later....

account frozen becuase of fraudlulent activity?


I signed up a week ago, thinking.....

Hey, I see more and more companies using epassporte as an alternative to paypal, becuase of obviuos reasons (paypal dont like adult).

Now one week later, I get an email saying....

account frozen becuase of fraudlulent activity.

Im saying......

What the fuck? I just signed up, and ive not even used it?

Seems, the very first payment came from an affiliate program, they say.....

"obtained the money from fruad"

Now my account is frozen,

they want.......

photocopy of credit card,
photocopy of drivers liscense,

and either fax it or mail it to unfreeze the account.

The guy on phone was pretty cocky and sounded pissed at me.

Now, Im trying to be patient with the whole thing, but, maybe its not even worth it? There arent many affiliate programs using them anyways to concerned about having to go through that much trouble to have the account.


Anyone else have this happen to you?
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Old 07-30-2004, 05:10 PM   #2
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what program sent you the money? pibcash?
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Old 07-30-2004, 05:13 PM   #3
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damcash.com

Check it out.....

Right on the front page......

powered by epassporte.

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Old 07-30-2004, 05:15 PM   #4
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What fucken bullshit, makes me think all the pornlords should just get together and create their own payment service..
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Old 07-30-2004, 05:15 PM   #5
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never have any problems - especialy with damcash.

tell you more -- it my good old friends.

where Rand or Kimmy?
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Old 07-30-2004, 05:15 PM   #6
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Threads like this cause that i haven't signed up to Epassporte yet although some people recommended me to do it.
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Old 07-30-2004, 05:17 PM   #7
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i send this thread url to damcash owners - let see - what they say about this.
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Old 07-30-2004, 05:17 PM   #8
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What fucken bullshit, makes me think all the pornlords should just get together and create their own payment service..
epassporte is ran by porn people.


Seriously why would you think there would be less bullshit or other scandulous behavior from porn people? Have you not been around longer than a few weeks? Some of these folks around here would slit their grannies throat for two nickles.
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Old 07-30-2004, 05:17 PM   #9
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Threads like this cause that i haven't signed up to Epassporte yet although some people recommended me to do it.
same here, I still use paypal.. I just don't keep any money in the account.
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Old 07-30-2004, 05:21 PM   #10
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i check - my epassporte account is OK.

i receive last time payments mostly from damcash and very few other sponsors to epassporte - all wellknown etc.

so here problem not in sponsor for sure.
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Old 07-30-2004, 05:26 PM   #11
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Threads like this cause that i haven't signed up to Epassporte yet although some people recommended me to do it.

I wasnt crazy about the idea at first.

I was actually afraid that something like this was going to happen.

I mean this kind of shit happens when people use paypal. Thats what i was thinking anyway, so I gave it a try.
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Old 07-30-2004, 05:27 PM   #12
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epassporte is ran by porn people.


Seriously why would you think there would be less bullshit or other scandulous behavior from porn people? Have you not been around longer than a few weeks? Some of these folks around here would slit their grannies throat for two nickles.
Oh hmm, no I had no idea. You'd think being porn peeps they'd at least be porn-friendly and not freezing people's accounts for receiving payments from sponsors though? Like the other guy here I still use Paypal, just am careful never to leave any money in the account...
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Old 07-30-2004, 05:30 PM   #13
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never had any problems with paypal and I have been using them for 2 1/2 years.
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Old 07-30-2004, 05:31 PM   #14
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I tried to signup with epassporte once, but it didn't work, so I gave up.

I still use PayPal.
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Old 07-30-2004, 05:32 PM   #15
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If they freeze the account with the money in it and you don't provide proper ID to unfreeze the account, then who gets the money? Do they get to keep it after so many days?
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Old 07-30-2004, 05:33 PM   #16
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Oh hmm, no I had no idea. You'd think being porn peeps they'd at least be porn-friendly and not freezing people's accounts for receiving payments from sponsors though? Like the other guy here I still use Paypal, just am careful never to leave any money in the account...

Well, at least they didnt freeze up the account when i had more in there.

I wonder if theres nothing wrong with damcash, and there wasnt any fraud connected to there account, who keeps the money that was sent and my $50 to open the account?
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Old 07-30-2004, 05:47 PM   #17
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Im wondering, if i dont deal with the hassle of sending them photocopies of my drivers liscense and my credit card, and they keep the account frozen.....

Am i going to regret this shit later, if want to sign up to some other 3rd party payment?
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Old 07-30-2004, 06:19 PM   #18
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This is not cool at all.

This is some bullshit!
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Old 07-30-2004, 06:22 PM   #19
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Threads like this cause that i haven't signed up to Epassporte yet although some people recommended me to do it.

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What fucken bullshit, makes me think all the pornlords should just get together and create their own payment service..
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Old 07-30-2004, 06:36 PM   #21
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Threads like this cause that i haven't signed up to Epassporte yet although some people recommended me to do it.
same...I heard a bunch of good things about them but shit like this is the reason I've never used epassporte
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Old 07-30-2004, 06:48 PM   #22
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damcash.com
Check it out.....
Right on the front page......
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Supermack,

To my knowledge there are no problems with the damcash program.

Did you receive money from any other source?

If you want to send me your account username I can ask risk management to re-evaluate the account.

The risk guys aren't going to give specifics about what happened, but, I have been speaking with them lately about some of their parameters.

It is to the benefit of ePassporte AND their account holders that ePassporte maintains user availability and works with webmasters to fine tune thier methods. -- At the same time, given the nature of the high risk markets it is also to their benefit to have an agressive risk management policy, even leaning to the side of caution sometimes.. It's a fine line to protect the system and maintain user functionality. But no one wants to disrupt an account for no reason.

Let me see what I can find out for you. Write to me at Rand @ Paycom.net.

My apologies in advance if this action was taken in error.
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Old 07-30-2004, 07:25 PM   #23
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my friend started a site with all sponsors that pay via epassporte...give it a look...hiya bluequartz hehe

http://www.epassporte-sponsors.com/
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Old 07-30-2004, 07:29 PM   #24
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I had $7K in there and my account frozen

It was indeed a bit of a hassle to get it all fixed again

And I agree they have at least one cocky guy over there, a higher-up, in the 3rd escalation row I think. The last one you can actually get one the phone instantly if you insist enough

However take this: They could have taken my $7000. No way I'd start an intercontinental law suit over $7000. They had to know this. They did not take my money though, and obviously never intended to do so. They were truly concerned it seems and they didn't just try to pull some stupid stunt on me

These account frozen messages can be a real shocker but I recommend you stay calm and simply provide what they demand.

I definately recommend Epassporte. I push a lot of money through them and everything is running smoothly. Except that one incident, which has been cleared in the end.

Actually I feel even safer now than before my account was frozen.

Also don't forget Epassporte is the only viable option now. Payapl does not only not allow adult at all, on top of that they are notorious account freezers.

Another thing I found to be relieving: They seem to run a relatively well sized operation. When I dealt with the frozen account I talked to at least 3-4 different people on the phone.

Again: I have my account for about a year, I use epassporte a LOT, and with HIGH amounts, and I am an almost non-english speaking, non-US resident so it would be rather easy to fuck with me but they had their chance and didn't.

I RECOMMEND EPASSPORTE - definately get an account, you'll love it. The ATM cards works everywhere, tried in 2 diff. countires and 2 diff. islands and 100% success. Also if you check visa's ATM locator (google for it) you'll see those ATM's are EVERYWHERE.

I have no affiliation with anyone there and I am not known to anyone there including Rand and Kimmykim

And if you feel unsecure simply pull your cash frequently
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You're right. I don't know you.

But I'm very happy you shared your story here and I thank you for your post.

Best regards.

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Old 07-30-2004, 07:45 PM   #26
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epassporte did the same exact thing to me too

i called their toll free number, and everything seems to be turning out great
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Old 07-30-2004, 07:54 PM   #27
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My apologies in advance if this action was taken in error.
And are your apologies going to do any good to the guy as you're playing games with *his* money and he can't pay bills? After seeing this thread rehashed hundreds of times something tell's me you guys are jumping the gun waaay too fucking often!

Do these "risk guys" get a cut of every dollar they confiscate over there or what?
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I know several other people who have also had accounts locked and money seized by epassporte.

Basically epassporte has crappy service , crappy customer support , and is obviously engaged in the same sort of ("THEFT") that paypal was associated with.

If you have money in your epassporte account , i suggest removing it before epassporte removes it for several months for you.

Imagine the buying power you could have by "seizing" every tenth account for a month or two.

Bank's make millions doing it for a day. Epassporte must be making a killing
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Old 07-30-2004, 08:15 PM   #29
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I have no interest in epassporte. I have heard SO many nightmare stories of bullshit account freezes, TTTTERRRRRRRIIIIBBBLLLLEEEE customer service and more.

Fuck them, don't need 'em.
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Old 07-30-2004, 08:27 PM   #31
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Epassporte works good for me, I lost my electron card, it was a apina getting a new one, but it solved to the best in the end!
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You fucks ever heard of something called a "Bank Wire" ?

Save yourself the troubles and headaches.
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You fucks ever heard of something called a "Bank Wire" ?

Save yourself the troubles and headaches.
banks don't do wires on sunday
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Old 07-30-2004, 11:22 PM   #34
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What fucken bullshit, makes me think all the pornlords should just get together and create their own payment service..
Fuck ya, why not
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Old 07-31-2004, 12:33 AM   #35
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Supermack,

To my knowledge there are no problems with the damcash program.

Did you receive money from any other source?

If you want to send me your account username I can ask risk management to re-evaluate the account.

The risk guys aren't going to give specifics about what happened, but, I have been speaking with them lately about some of their parameters.

It is to the benefit of ePassporte AND their account holders that ePassporte maintains user availability and works with webmasters to fine tune thier methods. -- At the same time, given the nature of the high risk markets it is also to their benefit to have an agressive risk management policy, even leaning to the side of caution sometimes.. It's a fine line to protect the system and maintain user functionality. But no one wants to disrupt an account for no reason.

Let me see what I can find out for you. Write to me at Rand @ Paycom.net.

My apologies in advance if this action was taken in error.
good reply - as it should be in my understanding. ;)
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good reply - as it should be in my understanding. ;)
you call that lip service a good reply ??

HAHAHA if you went to your bank and your money was gone and the bank manager told you, "we took your money , send me a letter and i'll have risk-management re-evaluate the situation , when we feel like it , btw we dont work on weekends and we dont come in until noon and quit after lunch " , i think you might have a different opinion.

A good reply is something like this..

" dear sir , a terrible mistake has happened and an innocent customer has been affected, this situation is of the utmost urgency to our company as we work for you , we will have the support employees and risk management team called into the office after hours to interogate them for the source of this mistake. They will be hooked up to lie detectors and flogged with large sharp objects until they reveal the source of their stupidity and errors. Once the objective has been completed a full review of the scenario will be re-enacted amongst the employees to make sure this sort of scenario NEVER takes place again. The employee who made the error will be arriving by charter plane in 6 hours to personally apologize and kiss your ass repeatedly, to show or true sincerity we have enclosed receipts in your name for donations to a charity in the amount of 50 billion dollars as compensation for our terrible mistake. As owner i would like to apologize to you and your family and your family pets for any inconvenience we have caused, i have additionally enclosed a picture of myself masturbating myself onto a naked sheep so as you can photochop it and send it throughout the internet, furthermore if you are ever in the area , i cordially invite you to enter my wife anally on any occasion you wish. "
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My account also has been froze now for 2 weeks they keep giving me the run around,they are highly unorganised I tell you that .after 5 phone calls a few emails and a few chats on messenger I give up.they still give me no answer why and I havent done anything fraudelent.
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Old 07-31-2004, 01:19 AM   #38
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really?

maybe i just lucky - dont you think?
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you call that lip service a good reply ??
seems you dont know what mean "bad service" ;)
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seems you dont know what mean "bad service" ;)
It seems you barely speak english , so i highly doubt you even know what lip service is.

If lensman broke into ten people's house and kicked them in the balls, then you asked 100 people if lensman was a nut sack kicker, you would have 9 people saying lensman is a great guy for every one guy saying he got kicked in the sack..

Think about it.. ( grab a calculator )

Overall i think epassporte is a great service , much cleaner and simpler for me, but these stories tell us something.
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Threads like this cause that i haven't signed up to Epassporte yet although some people recommended me to do it.
Exactly, just last week i was thinking about signing up, but then changed my mind. Still debating if i should or not.
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Old 07-31-2004, 01:58 AM   #43
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I keep a lot of money in my Epass account and I've never had any problems.
Did lensman ever kick you in the balls ?
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Did lensman ever kick you in the balls ?
for what ?
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Old 07-31-2004, 02:31 AM   #45
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Did lensman ever kick you in the balls ?
lol

nice ;)
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Old 07-31-2004, 03:45 AM   #46
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I keep a lot of money in my Epass account and I've never had any problems.
Having read the horror threads on this since they started I think there lies the pattern.

I have yet to find a big player being termed but it always seem to be little guys.

Come to think of it there were quite a few affiliate scams in the past that did this: Pay the big shots(To have a following on the boards ) and rape the little fish and pocket some more cash.

Ya have to keep in mind that there are way more little guys then big players.

As for the rest of this thread I can only say

Deja Vu ain't what it used to be
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If they freeze the account with the money in it and you don't provide proper ID to unfreeze the account, then who gets the money? Do they get to keep it after so many days?
It depends on the reason for the freeze as to what will happen with the funds.

If the funds were frozen b/c they are determined to come from a fraudulent source, the transaction will be reversed.

If the funds were frozen for a reason other than fraud the funds will remain in the account until ID docs are received.
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And are your apologies going to do any good to the guy as you're playing games with *his* money and he can't pay bills? After seeing this thread rehashed hundreds of times something tell's me you guys are jumping the gun waaay too fucking often!

Do these "risk guys" get a cut of every dollar they confiscate over there or what?
If the funds in an account are determined to be fraudulent, then they don't belong to the account holder. They don't belong to Risk either. Unfortunately, the account holder will have to find another way to pay his bills.

99.9% of the time, the accounts we block for fraud are actually fraud.
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Smokey The Bear - Humorous post! But you're way off base there.



DBW - Drop me a line and bring me up to speed regarding your account. Rand @ paycom dot net. You might want to include a number where you can be reached.
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at least you actually got an account. I applied over a week ago and still haven't heard a thing.
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