Who makes more money in adult? SE gurus or TGP gurus? - GoFuckYourself.com

alexg · 07-17-2004, 03:41 PM

my guess would be SE gurus..

what do you say?

Dwreck · 07-17-2004, 03:42 PM

Ask Wired guy then ask Sleazy. This would be a great debate.

kush · 07-17-2004, 03:43 PM

SE guys don't post any numbers please ;)

TGP guys feel free to

btw, alex, working on your links now

chemicaleyes · 07-17-2004, 03:43 PM

TheWildcard · 07-17-2004, 03:44 PM

Repetitive Monkey · 07-17-2004, 03:44 PM

New Age Gurus selling $50 books about the evil of material possession.

Adultnet · 07-17-2004, 03:45 PM

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Originally posted by TheWildcard
SE.

for sure. .

Dracula · 07-17-2004, 03:48 PM

Se gurus on gfy? Really? Really really?

alexg · 07-17-2004, 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kush
SE guys don't post any numbers please ;)

TGP guys feel free to

btw, alex, working on your links now

sounds good

pxxx · 07-17-2004, 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ill
Ask Wired guy then ask Sleazy. This would be a great debate.

IPK · 07-17-2004, 04:03 PM

Doctor Dre · 07-17-2004, 04:05 PM

I think asking this question is just stupid ... you already known that ...
Somebody that works SE correctly can have couple dozen if not hundread thousands of quality hits a day ... compared to crappy freeloaders ...

WiredGuy · 07-17-2004, 04:06 PM

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Originally posted by ill
Ask Wired guy then ask Sleazy. This would be a great debate.

Myself and Sleazy already did this in Gimli two weeks ago. We have two entirely different business models. Plus our traffic numbers are staggeringly different in size and type.

With that said, I agree with Kush, SE people should not share numbers

WG

MasterBlogger · 07-17-2004, 04:07 PM

The key to the information age - is information.
I am - by far making more money - then many on this board.
Equity - as a result of NEVER bending my morals.

polish_aristocrat · 07-17-2004, 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by alexg
my guess would be SE gurus..

what do you say?

slavdogg

kush · 07-17-2004, 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MasterBlogger
The key to the information age - is information.
I am - by far making more money - then many on this board.
Equity - as a result of NEVER bending my morals.

What?

Diligent · 07-17-2004, 05:04 PM

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Originally posted by kush
What?

Exactly, what You said.

I many times wonder if that guy eats shrooms all day long.

NoCarrier · 07-17-2004, 05:10 PM

Doctor Dre · 07-17-2004, 05:11 PM

MasterBlogger
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What you said was probably stupid as usual anyways

http · 07-17-2004, 05:13 PM

You should do both. SE traffic is not very reliable.

AVM · 07-17-2004, 05:14 PM

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Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
slavdogg

He's not a SE guru, he's more of a very big player in the domain game.

censored · 07-17-2004, 05:16 PM

PaySites owners ;)

Meloman · 07-17-2004, 05:19 PM

It's a known fact that SE traffic is more potent than TGP traffic but it all comes down to volume. Would you rather have 1000 SE hits with a 1/100 ratio (10 joins) or 20,000 TGP hits with a 1/1000 ratio (20 joins)?

SE traffic rocks...but the trick and hard part is being able to get it in high volumes.

SleazyDream · 07-17-2004, 05:31 PM

stupid question, as many tgps own paysites and get revenue and traffic from SE and seperating it would be difficult. also pure TGP traffic from any good tgp has a major SE component to it.

anyone who thinks there really is a difference and that's it's seperatable has MAJOR blinders on and really doesn't have a clue about how to make real money in an online business in today's marketplace.

so all those that blindly said SE - my answer to them is that's a PUBLIC statement that you don't have a fucking clue. IDIOTS.

quiet · 07-17-2004, 05:34 PM

mmm.... money.

SleazyDream · 07-17-2004, 05:38 PM

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Originally posted by quiet
mmm.... money.

best fucking answer in this thread

Jman · 07-17-2004, 05:41 PM

I tried both but to be honest, the one that made me m... mo money in short term was tgp, but after being patient with one of my site (gambling) and listening to an SE Pro i can defenitly tell you that the long run is good as well....

At the end of the day The sponsor i tried on TGP is the one that made the difference i could of tried someone and did shit..

Just like the SE with my gambling site, I could of picked up a sponsor that shave like crazy and have a bad experience with my SE traffic...

What is your pick ?

Pornwolf · 07-17-2004, 05:42 PM

Neither. The Hun makes his money from...

SleazyDream · 07-17-2004, 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JMan
I tried both but to be honest, the one that made me m... mo money in short term was tgp, but after being patient with one of my site (gambling) and listening to an SE Pro i can defenitly tell you that the long run is good as well....

At the end of the day The sponsor i tried on TGP is the one that made the difference i could of tried someone and did shit..

Just like the SE with my gambling site, I could of picked up a sponsor that shave like crazy and have a bad experience with my SE traffic...

What is your pick ?

why pick? do both

Jman · 07-17-2004, 05:44 PM

Exactly Bro

zentz · 07-17-2004, 05:48 PM

SE gurus definetly

hydro · 07-17-2004, 05:51 PM

se 4 lyfe

WiredGuy · 07-17-2004, 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JMan
I tried both but to be honest, the one that made me m... mo money in short term was tgp, but after being patient with one of my site (gambling) and listening to an SE Pro i can defenitly tell you that the long run is good as well....

At the end of the day The sponsor i tried on TGP is the one that made the difference i could of tried someone and did shit..

Just like the SE with my gambling site, I could of picked up a sponsor that shave like crazy and have a bad experience with my SE traffic...

What is your pick ?

SE's turn me on.
WG

austinth · 07-17-2004, 06:06 PM

Test, Test, Test.

Shaze · 07-17-2004, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream
stupid question, as many tgps own paysites and get revenue and traffic from SE and seperating it would be difficult. also pure TGP traffic from any good tgp has a major SE component to it.

anyone who thinks there really is a difference and that's it's seperatable has MAJOR blinders on and really doesn't have a clue about how to make real money in an online business in today's marketplace.

so all those that blindly said SE - my answer to them is that's a PUBLIC statement that you don't have a fucking clue. IDIOTS.

you are a smart man, but try not to open up other people's eyes

NoCarrier · 07-17-2004, 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream
stupid question, as many tgps own paysites and get revenue and traffic from SE and seperating it would be difficult. also pure TGP traffic from any good tgp has a major SE component to it.

anyone who thinks there really is a difference and that's it's seperatable has MAJOR blinders on and really doesn't have a clue about how to make real money in an online business in today's marketplace.

so all those that blindly said SE - my answer to them is that's a PUBLIC statement that you don't have a fucking clue. IDIOTS.

Damn, what you just said looked interesting. Too bad it doesn't make any sense.

KingDough · 07-17-2004, 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream
why pick? do both

yea what he said. you gotta have your fingers in everything. if you have to pick cuz u dont have enough time then yur not working hard enough slackers.

Jman · 07-17-2004, 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by WiredGuy
SE's turn me on.
WG

You have phone sex with Google... And I have the proof

WiredGuy · 07-17-2004, 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JMan
You have phone sex with Google... And I have the proof

hahahhaha

slapass · 07-17-2004, 07:55 PM

The biggest of both do very fucking well. So toss a coin and focus your energy into one and make some cash.

SE guys have less reason to go to conventions so depending on your social level that could drive the decision.

Meloman · 07-17-2004, 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream
stupid question, as many tgps own paysites and get revenue and traffic from SE and seperating it would be difficult. also pure TGP traffic from any good tgp has a major SE component to it.

Yes it would be difficult to seperate. But the simple matter still is that TGP traffic is a mixture of varous traffic sources both foreign and domestic. Some TGP traffic converts well and some doesn't. SE traffiic overal is more pure and overal when targeted correctly will on average always convert at a lower ratio than TGP.

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Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream

anyone who thinks there really is a difference and that's it's seperatable has MAJOR blinders on and really doesn't have a clue about how to make real money in an online business in today's marketplace.

so all those that blindly said SE - my answer to them is that's a PUBLIC statement that you don't have a fucking clue. IDIOTS.

Hahaha. Sleazy you crack me up, lol

I disagree with you here so if you're right then I'M actually an idiot with no clue how my bank account is filling up

Re-read my post above. Simple matter is that SE traffic overal is more potent and will out convert TGP traffic. If for any other reason because it's more pure, better targeted and therefore easier to sell. Of courese whom you sell it too also makes a difference.. so of course if you sell it to your own paysites you'll make more of it. But to keep things simple lets just say selling it to a sponsor for $35-$40 a sale. All things equal, SE traffic will convert easier.

But bottom line TRAFFIC is king and very few people can actually pull off high volume SE traffic while TGP traffic is much easier to do. Therefore I think there's more top TGP players than there are top SE players.

Plain and simple, bottom line revenue is what talks. If you can get a super high volume of TGP traffic and get major sales that's a whole lot better than a handfull of good SE traffic that only got you a few sales.

Now don't quote me on this, but I remember a few years ago how a major TGP site owner came to my sponsors board and talked about how his site made $35K monthly. So I'm taking a guess here that top TGP sites make $30k - $50K monthly. Think that number sounds about right sleazy? What about someone like The Hun? What would guess his monthly earning are? Over $100K?

Now I could be completely off base, but if my above numbers are correct, then right now I know at least 2 top SE guys making more than that....

creegan · 07-17-2004, 09:25 PM

it takes alot more investment to make money (big traffic money) with search engines than tgps, using legit long term methods anyway

but i imagine the hardcore se guys wouldn't do it if it wasn't worth it

it may just come down to how YOU can get those sales

SleazyDream · 07-17-2004, 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Meloman
Yes it would be difficult to seperate. But the simple matter still is that TGP traffic is a mixture of varous traffic sources both foreign and domestic. Some TGP traffic converts well and some doesn't. SE traffiic overal is more pure and overal when targeted correctly will on average always convert at a lower ratio than TGP.

Hahaha. Sleazy you crack me up, lol I disagree with you here so if you're right then I'M actually an idiot with no clue how my bank account is filling up

Re-read my post above. Simple matter is that SE traffic overal is more potent and will out convert TGP traffic. If for any other reason because it's more pure, better targeted and therefore easier to sell. Of courese whom you sell it too also makes a difference.. so of course if you sell it to your own paysites you'll make more of it. But to keep things simple lets just say selling it to a sponsor for $35-$40 a sale. All things equal, SE traffic will convert easier.

But bottom line TRAFFIC is king and very few people can actually pull off high volume SE traffic while TGP traffic is much easier to do. Therefore I think there's more top TGP players than there are top SE players.

Plain and simple, bottom line revenue is what talks. If you can get a super high volume of TGP traffic and get major sales that's a whole lot better than a handfull of good SE traffic that only got you a few sales.

Now don't quote me on this, but I remember a few years ago how a major TGP site owner came to my sponsors board and talked about how his site made $35K monthly. So I'm taking a guess here that top TGP sites make $30k - $50K monthly. Think that number sounds about right sleazy? What about someone like The Hun? What would guess his monthly earning are? Over $100K?

Now I could be completely off base, but if my above numbers are correct, then right now I know at least 2 top SE guys making more than that....

yep - you are an idiot.

FlyingIguana · 07-17-2004, 09:27 PM

guys with chinese traffic make all the money

BT · 07-17-2004, 09:29 PM

It's a toss up

pood · 07-17-2004, 09:30 PM

SE > tgp

Meloman · 07-17-2004, 09:31 PM

Hahaha. Sleazy you crap me up.

Makingcoin · 07-17-2004, 09:32 PM

SleazyDream · 07-17-2004, 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Meloman
Hahaha. Sleazy you crap me up.

maybe - but i make no assumptions on your income yet you make assumptions - and false ones - on mine and all TGPs from your statement.

Meloman · 07-17-2004, 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream
maybe - but i make no assumptions on your income yet you make assumptions - and false ones - on mine and all TGPs from your statement.

The assumption of income was made based off a post on the Maxcash board 2 years ago from the owner of a large TGP. I believe it was World Sex but I don't remeber exactly since it was 2 years ago.

He SPECIFICALLY said his TGP made $35K monthly.

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