Who makes more money in adult? SE gurus or TGP gurus? - Page 3 - GoFuckYourself.com

mcmc · 07-18-2004, 05:09 AM

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Originally posted by http
You should do both. SE traffic is not very reliable.

thats the problem... with all those changes on google and the other engines

Za Ha · 07-18-2004, 06:13 AM

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Originally posted by kush
hahahahaha if you believe that some TGP's have 300K/day or more SE traffic in them then YOU yourself have very minimal knowledge of SE traffic (which I can believe, b/c sleazydream.com gets dick when it comes to SE traffic)

There is NO TGP that has 300K / day plus TGP traffic.
The only TGP that was anywhere near the 100K / day in SE traffic in recent times was smashingthumbs.com, and now they're banned in google.

LOL ppl and their endless knowledge... ya right so few of those...

Assuming you count www.89.com as a tgp I say it gets close if not more then 300k a day of SE traffic daily.

Overture shows:

131032 89
833073 89.com

So that takes care of the NO one has 300k of SE traffic... there is another guy who gets WAY WAY over 300k a day of SE traffic to his tgps (notice the plural) but I will not post it here cause he is not big on the boards....

As for who makes more it is a matter of quality VS quantity.

Ppl will argue that SE is better because of the quality however the quantity just isnt there....

If you run a tgp (or a lot of them) you can geo filter the traffic to a UK dialer (those were good days

) send them to your own gals, sell spots, sell ads and so on and so and so on....

You may have a lot of potential with SE traffic however most ppl are limited with quantity....

I think income would very similair between the TOP tgp guys (no NOT the hun, you are not THAT big with 1 site) and the TOP se guys.

My

(Canadian Currency)

Bike · 07-18-2004, 06:32 AM

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Originally posted by Za Ha
LOL ppl and their endless knowledge... ya right so few of those...

Assuming you count www.89.com as a tgp I say it gets close if not more then 300k a day of SE traffic daily.

Overture shows:

131032 89
833073 89.com

So that takes care of the NO one has 300k of SE traffic... there is another guy who gets WAY WAY over 300k a day of SE traffic to his tgps (notice the plural) but I will not post it here cause he is not big on the boards....

As for who makes more it is a matter of quality VS quantity.

Ppl will argue that SE is better because of the quality however the quantity just isnt there....

If you run a tgp (or a lot of them) you can geo filter the traffic to a UK dialer (those were good days ) send them to your own gals, sell spots, sell ads and so on and so and so on....

You may have a lot of potential with SE traffic however most ppl are limited with quantity....

I think income would very similair between the TOP tgp guys (no NOT the hun, you are not THAT big with 1 site) and the TOP se guys.

My (Canadian Currency)

sacX · 07-18-2004, 06:39 AM

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Originally posted by Za Ha
LOL ppl and their endless knowledge... ya right so few of those...

Assuming you count www.89.com as a tgp I say it gets close if not more then 300k a day of SE traffic daily.

Overture shows:

131032 89
833073 89.com

So that takes care of the NO one has 300k of SE traffic... there is another guy who gets WAY WAY over 300k a day of SE traffic to his tgps (notice the plural) but I will not post it here cause he is not big on the boards....

As for who makes more it is a matter of quality VS quantity.

Ppl will argue that SE is better because of the quality however the quantity just isnt there....

If you run a tgp (or a lot of them) you can geo filter the traffic to a UK dialer (those were good days ) send them to your own gals, sell spots, sell ads and so on and so and so on....

You may have a lot of potential with SE traffic however most ppl are limited with quantity....

I think income would very similair between the TOP tgp guys (no NOT the hun, you are not THAT big with 1 site) and the TOP se guys.

My (Canadian Currency)

overture stats are monthly.. so that comes out at about 30,000 a day.

kush · 07-18-2004, 06:59 AM

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Originally posted by Za Ha
LOL ppl and their endless knowledge... ya right so few of those...

Assuming you count www.89.com as a tgp I say it gets close if not more then 300k a day of SE traffic daily.

Overture shows:

131032 89
833073 89.com

So that takes care of the NO one has 300k of SE traffic... there is another guy who gets WAY WAY over 300k a day of SE traffic to his tgps (notice the plural) but I will not post it here cause he is not big on the boards....

As for who makes more it is a matter of quality VS quantity.

Ppl will argue that SE is better because of the quality however the quantity just isnt there....

If you run a tgp (or a lot of them) you can geo filter the traffic to a UK dialer (those were good days ) send them to your own gals, sell spots, sell ads and so on and so and so on....

You may have a lot of potential with SE traffic however most ppl are limited with quantity....

I think income would very similair between the TOP tgp guys (no NOT the hun, you are not THAT big with 1 site) and the TOP se guys.

My (Canadian Currency)

Zaha, you are completely wrong in your direct SE statements and your inferences regarding overture.

(Why do I ever bother explain this to those who are clueless?)

2 reasons why you are wrong:

1) That number you came up with 833073 for "89.com" is the total searches overture came up with for the Month of June [not a single day] Assuming this number was an accurate portrayel of the actual searches the term "89.com" got last month (which it most certainly is not) that would still only come to 27,779 searches per day, which is nowhere near your 300K a day.

2) Overture is not an accurate tool, it leads inexperienced webmasters to believe there is more traffic out there than there really is.

You're like Sleazy - you don't understand the volume of SE traffic on the net. You way, way overestimate it.

Theo · 07-18-2004, 07:07 AM

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Originally posted by sacX
overture stats are monthly.. so that comes out at about 30,000 a day.

of course

let's not freak out today

Trax · 07-18-2004, 10:11 AM

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Originally posted by Za Ha
LOL ppl and their endless knowledge... ya right so few of those...

Assuming you count www.89.com as a tgp I say it gets close if not more then 300k a day of SE traffic daily.

Overture shows:

131032 89
833073 89.com

So that takes care of the NO one has 300k of SE traffic... there is another guy who gets WAY WAY over 300k a day of SE traffic to his tgps (notice the plural) but I will not post it here cause he is not big on the boards....

As for who makes more it is a matter of quality VS quantity.

Ppl will argue that SE is better because of the quality however the quantity just isnt there....

If you run a tgp (or a lot of them) you can geo filter the traffic to a UK dialer (those were good days ) send them to your own gals, sell spots, sell ads and so on and so and so on....

You may have a lot of potential with SE traffic however most ppl are limited with quantity....

I think income would very similair between the TOP tgp guys (no NOT the hun, you are not THAT big with 1 site) and the TOP se guys.

My (Canadian Currency)

that overture example is very funny

89 surely gets a nice chunk of SE traffic but.....
I won't comment on the rest

Trax · 07-18-2004, 10:15 AM

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Originally posted by sacX
overture stats are monthly.. so that comes out at about 30,000 a day.

if the SE game would work like that I wouldn't be here no more.

just because a keyword gets 1.000.000 searches a month does not mean your site (regardless of #1, #2 or #3 in the serps) will get ~33.333 uniques a day lol

that would be awesome
oh and... kush said already that the overture numbers are inaccurate

Basic_man · 07-18-2004, 10:16 AM

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Originally posted by kush
SE guys don't post any numbers please ;)

TGP guys feel free to

btw, alex, working on your links now

POST SOME NUMBERS MAN!

sacX · 07-18-2004, 10:19 AM

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Originally posted by Trax
if the SE game would work like that I wouldn't be here no more.

just because a keyword gets 1.000.000 searches a month does not mean your site (regardless of #1, #2 or #3 in the serps) will get ~33.333 uniques a day lol

that would be awesome
oh and... kush said already that the overture numbers are inaccurate

uh I was simply pointing out that ZaHa's estimations were way off. kush just reiterated it.

I know a little bit about SE's.

xxxdesign-net · 07-18-2004, 10:22 AM

my opinion on this.. is the biggest SE players (mainstream+adults) make way more more than a guy listed on nearly every damn TGP on earth..everyday...

However, in the adult biz.. the TGP gurus makes more money than the SE gurus that I know... (but I dont necessarily know alot)

If you think Quiet is one of the top TGP a guy.. isf theres any SE guys in adult making more.. maybe Wiredguy know.. ?

TheWildcard · 07-18-2004, 10:25 AM

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Originally posted by kush
You're forgetting one thing.... traffic a few years ago was capable of making more money per surfer than traffic is capable of now.

Remember the old sex.com? It was just a bannerfarm and they banked massive amounts of money from that.

I'm willing to bet that the quality of SE traffic has decreased at a slower rate than the quality of TGP traffic. Anybody want to be me?

Good point, dude.

slapass · 07-18-2004, 10:32 AM

I know a few gallery submitters with traffic that rivals thehun. So if they are counted there might be more people doing very very well with TGP.

The bitch about SE is that it is constantly changing so the reliability of the income source is not there.

TGP has been pretty static now for 2 years. More movies but that is about it.

Mike-BP · 07-18-2004, 10:37 AM

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Originally posted by xxxdesign-net
my opinion on this.. is the biggest SE players (mainstream+adults) make way more more than a guy listed on nearly every damn TGP on earth..everyday...

However, in the adult biz.. the TGP gurus makes more money than the SE gurus that I know... (but I dont necessarily know alot)

If you think Quiet is one of the top TGP a guy.. isf theres any SE guys in adult making more.. maybe Wiredguy know.. ?

I wouldnt call Quiet a TGP guy, he's more a paysite guy

TGP guys are thehun, worldsex, elephantlist, book-mark, madthumbs, tiava, sublime, teeniefiles etc

xxxdesign-net · 07-18-2004, 10:42 AM

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Originally posted by Mike-BP
I wouldnt call Quiet a TGP guy, he's more a paysite guy

TGP guys are thehun, worldsex, elephantlist, book-mark, madthumbs, tiava, sublime, teeniefiles etc

To me when you compare TGP gurus and SE gurus... you dont make a comparasion between the guy running Google vs the guy running the Hun... but the TOP gallery submitters Vs the Top SEO experts...

A paysite guy is a guy like Pimpdog.. that knows dick about the TGP game and SE but make his money with affilaites... Quiet is a TGP(mgp) guy.. He could certainly make as much money just being an affiliate promoting the right sites ...

sacX · 07-18-2004, 10:45 AM

well estimating thehun makes about 140-160k a month (judging by various prices).. some of the top SE people have definitely made at least that much, but to do it consistently would be very uncommon...

maybe there are TGP owners who make more than that, i doubt there is many though.

Trax · 07-18-2004, 10:46 AM

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Originally posted by xxxdesign-net

A paysite guy is a guy like Pimpdog.. that knows dick about the TGP game and SE but make his money with affilaites... Quiet is a TGP(mgp) guy.. He could certainly make as much money just being an affiliate promoting the right sites ...

buying gallery spots makes you a TGP guy?

I always thought owning a tgp makes you one

xxxdesign-net · 07-18-2004, 10:48 AM

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Originally posted by Trax

buying gallery spots makes you a TGP guy?

I always thought owning a tgp makes you one

TGP guy.. TGP guru.. whatever..

SpeakEasy · 07-18-2004, 10:58 AM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream
stupid question, as many tgps own paysites and get revenue and traffic from SE and seperating it would be difficult. also pure TGP traffic from any good tgp has a major SE component to it.

anyone who thinks there really is a difference and that's it's seperatable has MAJOR blinders on and really doesn't have a clue about how to make real money in an online business in today's marketplace.

so all those that blindly said SE - my answer to them is that's a PUBLIC statement that you don't have a fucking clue. IDIOTS.

That post was actually 1 of the only posts you have made that are actually worth reading and correct.

jayeff · 07-18-2004, 11:17 AM

What a thread! Most of the posts don't even attempt to address the original question... as if it could be answered anyway

Take either specialization and you have a small number of guys making some very serious money, a lot more making reasonable money, and then the rest. There are people working alone (some full-time, some part-time), there are partnerships and outfits with a bunch of employees. There are standalone sites and others that are part of networks (some of which are going to include both TGPs and sites optimized for SE traffic). There are sites being run on a shoestring and others with big money sunk in them.

If we knew everyone's stats (and we don't), how can anyone seriously imagine you could factor in all those variations?

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xxxdesign-net My hips don't lie Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 10,129	my opinion on this.. is the biggest SE players (mainstream+adults) make way more more than a guy listed on nearly every damn TGP on earth..everyday... However, in the adult biz.. the TGP gurus makes more money than the SE gurus that I know... (but I dont necessarily know alot) If you think Quiet is one of the top TGP a guy.. isf theres any SE guys in adult making more.. maybe Wiredguy know.. ? Last edited by xxxdesign-net; 07-18-2004 at 10:27 AM..

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slapass Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 14,622	I know a few gallery submitters with traffic that rivals thehun. So if they are counted there might be more people doing very very well with TGP. The bitch about SE is that it is constantly changing so the reliability of the income source is not there. TGP has been pretty static now for 2 years. More movies but that is about it.

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sacX Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: New Zealand Posts: 2,998	well estimating thehun makes about 140-160k a month (judging by various prices).. some of the top SE people have definitely made at least that much, but to do it consistently would be very uncommon... maybe there are TGP owners who make more than that, i doubt there is many though.

07-18-2004, 11:17 AM	#121
jayeff Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 2,944	What a thread! Most of the posts don't even attempt to address the original question... as if it could be answered anyway Take either specialization and you have a small number of guys making some very serious money, a lot more making reasonable money, and then the rest. There are people working alone (some full-time, some part-time), there are partnerships and outfits with a bunch of employees. There are standalone sites and others that are part of networks (some of which are going to include both TGPs and sites optimized for SE traffic). There are sites being run on a shoestring and others with big money sunk in them. If we knew everyone's stats (and we don't), how can anyone seriously imagine you could factor in all those variations?