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Old 07-02-2004, 04:13 AM   #1
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:stop EPASSPORTE - urgent WARNING to WEBMASTERS

OH MY GOSH ITS A PAYPAL NIGHTMARE FLASHBACK , ONLY IM NOT DREAMING.

Dear WebMasters,

It appears as though epassporte has begun using paypal like tactics to randomly "sieze" money from users accounts.

This shady tactic is nothing more than robbery , you people (epassporte) should be ashamed of yourselves for using such tactics.

DONT EVER EVER EVER USE THIS SERVICE FOR ONLINE BILL PAYING !!!

Money in Money out..

Forget the "keep it under the $1000 limit rule"


Robot like support staff and retarded form letters = not a happy customer.

If i was visa i would dump you like a fat girlfriend.

I am sure i will hear a few " never had any problems " replies , but remember paypal... who knows maybe they will stop doing adult too soon LOL .
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Old 07-02-2004, 04:16 AM   #2
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you are probably spamming
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Did you have to sign up with anothe nick to say this?

Proof or
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Old 07-02-2004, 04:19 AM   #4
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you are probably spamming
your prob a moron , but they still let you post...
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Old 07-02-2004, 04:19 AM   #5
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I am sure i will hear a few " never had any problems " replies , but remember paypal... who knows maybe they will stop doing adult too soon LOL .
well let me be the first in a long row than: Never had any problem with them!
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Old 07-02-2004, 04:20 AM   #6
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pornstar did you do fradulent activities? and get your poor little account taken away
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Old 07-02-2004, 04:21 AM   #7
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your prob a moron , but they still let you post...
Atleast im not creating new usernames everytime I want to say something.
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Old 07-02-2004, 04:22 AM   #8
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*yawn*

Lets see.. on the one hand I have the oh 40-50k I've gotten through my Epassporte account in the past year and on the other I have the scaremongering of some guy with a brand new nickname and nothing to backup his claims.

Tough call.
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Old 07-02-2004, 04:22 AM   #9
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Did you have to sign up with anothe nick to say this?

Proof or
proof of what ?? signup with another nick ??

stop smoking glue son...

They locked 2 personal friends accounts for no reason and jerked them around for a week. The routine was very similair to what paypal was doing.

If i could suspend and jerk around with %10 of my customer base with 10 million dollars of their money , i would be much richer too
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Old 07-02-2004, 04:24 AM   #10
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*yawn*

Lets see.. on the one hand I have the oh 40-50k I've gotten through my Epassporte account in the past year and on the other I have the scaremongering of some guy with a brand new nickname and nothing to backup his claims.

Tough call.
*yawn* look at the name.. the 2 account make yours look like chump change. Both account are fine now, thats not the point.

Its the jerk around.
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This thread is useless without some proof
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Old 07-02-2004, 04:25 AM   #12
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Atleast im not creating new usernames everytime I want to say something.
yes your right i created a username in a time machine back in 2002. Fucking dipshit.
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Old 07-02-2004, 04:26 AM   #13
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This thread is useless without some proof
hello mcfly, theres nothing to prove.

Im just giving you a warning. One day you will wake up with your account locked , and they will take up too a week to turn it back on. SO dont use it too pay bills ( i.e. expiring domains etc etc )
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Old 07-02-2004, 04:27 AM   #14
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They locked 2 personal friends accounts for no reason and jerked them around for a week.
Ah... OK.. You are speaking on behalf of your 2 personal friends?

In other words, if this is to be taken at face value, you know nothing about the activities of your "2 personal friends" otherwise a valid reason would be provided.

Choose some other "friends" - they sound ... dubious.
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I've also read many bad stories about them here, but i doubt they will stop adult, since from what i know they do only adult, LOL
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Old 07-02-2004, 04:28 AM   #16
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hello mcfly, theres nothing to prove.

Im just giving you a warning. One day you will wake up with your account locked , and they will take up too a week to turn it back on. SO dont use it too pay bills ( i.e. expiring domains etc etc )
Thanks for the warning.

II think your rock is missing you.. maybe you should go crawl back under it for another couple years?
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Old 07-02-2004, 04:28 AM   #17
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Old 07-02-2004, 04:29 AM   #18
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Ah... OK.. You are speaking on behalf of your 2 personal friends?

In other words, if this is to be taken at face value, you know nothing about the activities of your "2 personal friends" otherwise a valid reason would be provided.

Choose some other "friends" - they sound ... dubious.
we 3 way the call until one of them got so upset he smashed his phone in. it was fairly amusing yet retarded at the same time.

The support was like a fucking robot on heroin
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hello mcfly, theres nothing to prove.
All accusations need proof. You accused epassporte of shady activity, prove it.
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this kind of posts should be sent directly to epassporte support. is there any epassporte support on this board anyway ?
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heres a theoretical situation for you * cough cough *

Your running a huge site, everything is going great. So you get in a car wreck and break your leg, now your in the hospital..

You own www.verycoolhipsite.com

it is set to expire in july1 2004 but no problems as your registrar has your credit card on file and is set to rebill before it expires

epassporte locks your account the week before it expires and what do you know the rebill is declined and the domain expires..

Guess where that puts you...
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we 3 way the call until one of them got so upset he smashed his phone in. it was fairly amusing yet retarded at the same time.

The support was like a fucking robot on heroin
???? Your friends sure seem to have a problem. This was over some bit of plastic? They not have any other plastic??

I got an idea - I'm gonna have a walk along the beach - I'm too confused!!
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heres a theoretical situation for you * cough cough *

Your running a huge site, everything is going great. So you get in a car wreck and break your leg, now your in the hospital..

You own www.verycoolhipsite.com

it is set to expire in july1 2004 but no problems as your registrar has your credit card on file and is set to rebill before it expires

epassporte locks your account the week before it expires and what do you know the rebill is declined and the domain expires..

Guess where that puts you...
why would they lock the fucking account ?
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heres a theoretical situation for you * cough cough *

Your running a huge site, everything is going great. So you get in a car wreck and break your leg, now your in the hospital..

You own www.verycoolhipsite.com

it is set to expire in july1 2004 but no problems as your registrar has your credit card on file and is set to rebill before it expires

epassporte locks your account the week before it expires and what do you know the rebill is declined and the domain expires..

Guess where that puts you...
Thats sucks, but apart from that i would advice you to renew the most important domains few monhts in advance.
My most valuable domain expires in 2012 i think :D
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Old 07-02-2004, 04:42 AM   #25
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yes your right i created a username in a time machine back in 2002. Fucking dipshit.
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heres a theoretical situation for you * cough cough *

Your running a huge site, everything is going great. So you get in a car wreck and break your leg, now your in the hospital..

You own www.verycoolhipsite.com

it is set to expire in july1 2004 but no problems as your registrar has your credit card on file and is set to rebill before it expires

epassporte locks your account the week before it expires and what do you know the rebill is declined and the domain expires..

Guess where that puts you...
What has all that *cough cough* got to do with your allegations about epassporte?

If you, of your friends, have a problem with epassporte, simply lodge a complaint and you will get a response.

You have not justified your allegations in this thread and it ain't smart to claim this stuff without contacting the relevant parties - it's no big deal - shit happens.
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Thats sucks, but apart from that i would advice you to renew the most important domains few monhts in advance.
My most valuable domain expires in 2012 i think :D
Muahaha.. but in 2013 it will be MINE!
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What has all that *cough cough* got to do with your allegations about epassporte?

If you, of your friends, have a problem with epassporte, simply lodge a complaint and you will get a response.

You have not justified your allegations in this thread and it ain't smart to claim this stuff without contacting the relevant parties - it's no big deal - shit happens.
They lodged a complaint . Nothing was done.

I never made any allegations , i made cold hard statements.

Its not a big deal ?? so if yahoo lost yahoo.com it wouldn't be a big deal ??? grab a clue then come back.

So far i haven't even told anyone to dump epassporte , just letting them know that if they have ONLINE BILLS they pay with epassporte , they will eventually get their account locked , and epassporte will block the credit cards charges.. If this is domains, they will let them expire, If this is hosting , they will let it go down.


Basically epassporte and bill paying is like sending a crackhead to the bank to pay your bills for you. You just can't trust them.
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Thats sucks, but apart from that i would advice you to renew the most important domains few monhts in advance.
My most valuable domain expires in 2012 i think :D
hindsight is 20/20
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Old 07-02-2004, 01:28 PM   #31
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Works great if you dont try too fuck them
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Old 07-02-2004, 01:50 PM   #32
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Didn't I tell your "two friends" in both email and icq that you were tagged by fraud control?
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Didn't I tell your "two friends" in both email and icq that you were tagged by fraud control?
If i told you i just saw 2 pink elephants fly by would you believe me . ??

Its pretty simple dear, epassporte dropped the ball. Your working for thieves.

You didnt tell either of them anything by email , so why would you even pretend as if you did.

Fraud control ?? is that another name for, systematic with-holding of funds ???

Fraud control is great, i have it on my mastercard, the difference is, it takes a 5 minute phone call to unblock mastercard, it took your incompetent staff a week to do the same thing.

I used to hold you in high regards, now im aware you work for another paypal clone.
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Works great if you dont try too fuck them
fuck them as in ?? using it ??

BTW neither of the accounts are closed, that has nothing to do with the thread, it has to do with poor service.
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Your totally right. If by "fuck them" you mean, spend money or use the epassporte account in any way.

If you plan on actually getting your money back or spending it on bills, then epassporte is not the card you want. If you plan on burning your money in a huge bonfire, then your in the right place.
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Old 07-02-2004, 02:59 PM   #36
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so you're saying epassporte locked your account then opened it back up after a week?
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proof of what ?? signup with another nick ??

stop smoking glue son...

They locked 2 personal friends accounts for no reason and jerked them around for a week. The routine was very similair to what paypal was doing.

If i could suspend and jerk around with %10 of my customer base with 10 million dollars of their money , i would be much richer too
Ok let me say flat out I read a lot of shit on Epassporte and I would not use them for that very reason but in this particular case I find it dubious that your friends need you to speak for them.

So explain that please?
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If i told you i just saw 2 pink elephants fly by would you believe me . ??

Its pretty simple dear, epassporte dropped the ball. Your working for thieves.

You didnt tell either of them anything by email , so why would you even pretend as if you did.

Fraud control ?? is that another name for, systematic with-holding of funds ???

Fraud control is great, i have it on my mastercard, the difference is, it takes a 5 minute phone call to unblock mastercard, it took your incompetent staff a week to do the same thing.

I used to hold you in high regards, now im aware you work for another paypal clone.

The odds of your "two friends" having their accounts "seized" or whatever you want to call it, in the same week that two supposedly different individuals contacted me in icq and email is pretty slender, since there aren't normally two accounts a week that are blocked, especially not two people that know each other. Unless of course there is something not quite right going on with one or both of the accounts.

We could delve into statistical analysis if you like, but frankly cards don't get blocked for no reason.

Now, if fraud control comes back and tells me there was no other pair of accounts that had any common denominators AND were blocked this week, this thread is going to look really silly from where you stand.

And believe me, if you're going to call ePassporte "shady robbers" as you indicated in your initial post, I'm going to investigate the situation from the inside out.
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OH MY GOSH ITS A PAYPAL NIGHTMARE FLASHBACK , ONLY IM NOT DREAMING.

Dear WebMasters,

It appears as though epassporte has begun using paypal like tactics to randomly "sieze" money from users accounts.

This shady tactic is nothing more than robbery , you people (epassporte) should be ashamed of yourselves for using such tactics.

DONT EVER EVER EVER USE THIS SERVICE FOR ONLINE BILL PAYING !!!

Money in Money out..

Forget the "keep it under the $1000 limit rule"


Robot like support staff and retarded form letters = not a happy customer.

If i was visa i would dump you like a fat girlfriend.

I am sure i will hear a few " never had any problems " replies , but remember paypal... who knows maybe they will stop doing adult too soon LOL .
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interesting to see...

lame attempt to make drama for sigwhores.

you should read more "How make board drama" manuals - it for sure.
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umm if the accounts are ok then what the fuck is the problem - they have to have some sort of online fraud protection - maybe your friends triggered soemthing - hey they got their accounts back

take your drama eleswhere we already got too much here
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anyways as you can see from the responses epassporte rocks and you suck cock


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The odds of your "two friends" having their accounts "seized" or whatever you want to call it, in the same week that two supposedly different individuals contacted me in icq and email is pretty slender, since there aren't normally two accounts a week that are blocked, especially not two people that know each other. Unless of course there is something not quite right going on with one or both of the accounts.

We could delve into statistical analysis if you like, but frankly cards don't get blocked for no reason.

Now, if fraud control comes back and tells me there was no other pair of accounts that had any common denominators AND were blocked this week, this thread is going to look really silly from where you stand.

And believe me, if you're going to call ePassporte "shady robbers" as you indicated in your initial post, I'm going to investigate the situation from the inside out.
blah blah blah, you work for/with a bunch of dimwits with no customer support. You talk the talk , but you dont walk the walk.

If any of you failed to miss the examples above then let the blind lead the blind and continue on, just remember this thread and get a gigggle when epassporte takes your money for a weekend shopping spree.

Plain and simple you jerked around customers. Im just letting gfy know before it happens to them..

You should investigate the situation , find out why the staff at epassporte is a bunch of useless clowns.


Maybe they really are so useless it takes 500 times longer than any other credit card to get unblocked, or maybe epassporte is using paypal like tactics to sieve off money for other use's , it doesn't matter to me. Useless staff = bye bye money

To all the other epassporte nuthuggers, i dont blame you , i would be the first to jump in on an epassporte thread , with good things to say. These stories lead me to believe they are headed down the same path as paypal , thats all im saying. Count the warnings , when they reach paypal levels then run for the hills.
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Old 07-02-2004, 08:43 PM   #47
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Um, right pal.

You can say what you like, but at the end of the day, I've discussed this with our fraud department, and what you say simply isn't the case.

I also talked to a particular webmaster program regarding some fraud they experienced.

Have a nice weekend.
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Old 07-02-2004, 09:13 PM   #48
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Um, right pal.

You can say what you like, but at the end of the day, I've discussed this with our fraud department, and what you say simply isn't the case.

I also talked to a particular webmaster program regarding some fraud they experienced.

Have a nice weekend.
Fraud haha, you have to be kidding. Its predictable you would start taking cheap shots like that.

I know 1 of the webmasters personally and know his sites, and your shitting up the wrong tree darling..

Why dont you have fraud dept tell us something.

Like how many customers you are currently taking hostage ,, err i mean security checks.

How much money is wrapped up in these accounts and what do you do with these funds while they sit idle.. ??


Better yet get some support staff that "helps" it's webmasters darling.
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Old 07-02-2004, 09:17 PM   #49
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How much money is wrapped up in these accounts and what do you do with these funds while they sit idle.. ??


Better yet get some support staff that "helps" it's webmasters darling.
Well now, funny you should ask that. Money that is paid to a fraudulent account is returned to its starting point -- ie if a program paid it out, then the program is credited the money back.

Money that is loaded into the system via cc or ACH is credited back to the legitimate source where it originated.

And darling, let me make one thing clear to you. ePassporte is not in the business of being taken by fraudsters, nor do we allow our account holders to be defrauded either.
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Old 07-02-2004, 09:29 PM   #50
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Well now, funny you should ask that. Money that is paid to a fraudulent account is returned to its starting point -- ie if a program paid it out, then the program is credited the money back.

Money that is loaded into the system via cc or ACH is credited back to the legitimate source where it originated.

And darling, let me make one thing clear to you. ePassporte is not in the business of being taken by fraudsters, nor do we allow our account holders to be defrauded either.
As i previously explained the accounts have nothing to do with fraud. They were 2 seperate people both experienced the same type of problems.. Accounts locked , long delays to get them back on. ( both accounts are working fine now , but that is not the point )

The service itself is a good one, the support is terrible.

Your company dropped the ball period...

All im doing is warning others that if you pay bills , dont use epassporte, because its not the same as every other credit card in the world with great service and helpfull support staff, on the contrary the slow inadequate response , form letters, general robot like customer support, i'm suprised you aren't outsourcing that support.
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