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Old 06-23-2004, 05:43 PM   #201
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I feel nervous as it's loading.... But lets see...
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Old 06-23-2004, 05:44 PM   #202
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Old 06-23-2004, 05:46 PM   #203
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Got him...
But but... but.. But is this good?

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Old 06-23-2004, 05:46 PM   #204
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Oh wow, I completely forgot. Koreans are on my shit list.

So fuck them to hell.









Hey look, what comes around goes around.

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Yes... But this poor guy was a simple translator... Shit, he should'nt have carried his doggybag....

Flatfaced fish are not on my good list anyhow....

Neither are any arab.

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Old 06-23-2004, 05:52 PM   #208
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Fuck Everybody!

This planet is filled with sick people that don't value human life or animal life.

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Rick. I liked your style... BEFORE this thread. I do not like it any more. Simply... GFY.

Why did you download the video? The same reason millions of others will download it from my site. Sorry if I lost you as a fan but I think I'll pick up a few hundred thousand others. Like the Korean, a casualty of war.
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Old 06-23-2004, 05:57 PM   #210
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This planet is filled with sick people that don't value human life or animal life.

Yes... Let's NUKE the whole middle east, all arabs, muslims, and make golf courses there. Then we NUKE all asians, and again arrange golf courses there.
That should be it... Or? LOL... Funny, my best friend is asian... A quite nice fellar'...
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just like the other video... it seems pretty clear that he was dead already when they cut his head off.

you can see that his body is PERFECTLY still while the other guy is reading out his BS. odd that he would be crying for his life hysterically and then a few seconds before his death... he is perfectly motionless. you can't even see him breathing.

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Old 06-23-2004, 06:04 PM   #212
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Why did you download the video? The same reason millions of others will download it from my site. Sorry if I lost you as a fan but I think I'll pick up a few hundred thousand others. Like the Korean, a casualty of war.
Making blink on others misery. Hmm.
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the other video was alot worse

and the korean guy looks dead before the beheading, i hope he was!!
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I'm in doubt about what's the saddest part here... people killing people for political gains, people watching people get killed for entertainment, or people showing people get killed for financial gains.

What a wonderful thing the human race is.
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Sick fuckers here. Who would deal with them?
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What a wonderful thing the human race is.
How true.
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Why did you download the video? The same reason millions of others will download it from my site. Sorry if I lost you as a fan but I think I'll pick up a few hundred thousand others. Like the Korean, a casualty of war.
Regardless of any financial gain (or whatever other motives) you may have from posting these videos to your site I have to give you props for making them available. I can understand CNN and other news organizations not wanting to run them on TV but what's keeping them from posting them to their websites with full warning of content from both the TV and web side?

It's not about gore or use of the images for entertainment. It's about not sugar-coating the realities. I'm pretty sure if Saddam and company had released daily videos back in their extermination days they would have never remained in power until last year.

People have many ideas how things should be run. I think we all should have the right to see the results of the paths chosen for us as well as ignore it on any level most comfortable. I won't pretend to be even remotely qualified to choose your level and you are nowhere in touch with me enough to choose mine.

Sugar coat cereal, not the truth. You go, Rick Latona

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Regardless of any financial gain (or whatever other motives) you may have from posting these videos to your site I have to give you props for making them available. I can understand CNN and other news organizations not wanting to run them on TV but what's keeping them from posting them to their websites with full warning of content from both the TV and web side?

It's not about gore or use of the images for entertainment. It's about not sugar-coating the realities. I'm pretty sure if Saddam and company had released daily videos back in their extermination days they would have never remained in power until last year.

People have many ideas how things should be run. I think we all should have the right to see the results of the paths chosen for us as well as ignore it on any level most comfortable. I won't pretend to be even remotely qualified to choose your level and you are nowhere in touch with me enough to choose mine.

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Thank you Mardigras. I've had this argument too many times and I'm tired of the fight.
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Regardless of any financial gain (or whatever other motives) you may have from posting these videos to your site I have to give you props for making them available. I can understand CNN and other news organizations not wanting to run them on TV but what's keeping them from posting them to their websites with full warning of content from both the TV and web side?

It's not about gore or use of the images for entertainment. It's about not sugar-coating the realities. I'm pretty sure if Saddam and company had released daily videos back in their extermination days they would have never remained in power until last year.

People have many ideas how things should be run. I think we all should have the right to see the results of the paths chosen for us as well as ignore it on any level most comfortable. I won't pretend to be even remotely qualified to choose your level and you are nowhere in touch with me enough to choose mine.

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Bullshit. Pure and utter bullshit.

Should the reality of the existence of kiddy porn be sugarcoated?
No?

Then should websites make it available so people can see "reality"? With advertising surrounding it? In fact using it simply as a way to gain viewers and thus income?

And are the people that watch it simply taking a glance at what "the real world" is like? Or are they actually sick fucks for even wanting to see shit like that?


Now, you could say that there is a big difference. But really, there isn't. Kiddy porn and brutal murders are both disgusting, vile things. If you watch them out of your own free will without any necessity, that says something about you.

"I didn't watch the snuff flick for entertainment, really! I just watched it because I find it extremely important to get a good perspective on all sides of reality!"

Get a fucking grip.
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Glad to see people still like profiting from other's misfortune.
Yep sad. People have to live large so they will do whatever to make it.
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Yeah this guy dies and now the promoter lives in a mansion,sad.
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Bullshit. Pure and utter bullshit.

Should the reality of the existence of kiddy porn be sugarcoated?
No?

Then should websites make it available so people can see "reality"? With advertising surrounding it? In fact using it simply as a way to gain viewers and thus income?

And are the people that watch it simply taking a glance at what "the real world" is like? Or are they actually sick fucks for even wanting to see shit like that?


Now, you could say that there is a big difference. But really, there isn't. Kiddy porn and brutal murders are both disgusting, vile things. If you watch them out of your own free will without any necessity, that says something about you.

"I didn't watch the snuff flick for entertainment, really! I just watched it because I find it extremely important to get a good perspective on all sides of reality!"

Get a fucking grip.
If they had just succeeded in sweeping those damn prison pics under the rug we probably wouldn't even be having this conversation.
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Now, you could say that there is a big difference. But really, there isn't. Kiddy porn and brutal murders
Watching video of one is illegal, the other is not.
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Bullshit. Pure and utter bullshit.

Should the reality of the existence of kiddy porn be sugarcoated?
No?

Then should websites make it available so people can see "reality"? With advertising surrounding it? In fact using it simply as a way to gain viewers and thus income?

And are the people that watch it simply taking a glance at what "the real world" is like? Or are they actually sick fucks for even wanting to see shit like that?


Now, you could say that there is a big difference. But really, there isn't. Kiddy porn and brutal murders are both disgusting, vile things. If you watch them out of your own free will without any necessity, that says something about you.

"I didn't watch the snuff flick for entertainment, really! I just watched it because I find it extremely important to get a good perspective on all sides of reality!"

Get a fucking grip.
Yes, we should destroy all photos and film of Nazi war atrocities too.

Here's a better idea, lets start burning it all and pretending it never happened.

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it is wrong to kill anyone other than american.
they should really kill whom deserves it.
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If they had just succeeded in sweeping those damn prison pics under the rug we probably wouldn't even be having this conversation.
There is a difference between not covering something up and using something purely for commercial gains. (note that I didn't say cj shouldn't be *allowed* to show the vid)

Personally, I think all information of this type should be available from non-entertainment (preferably non-commercial, public) sources. Not because of the sick fucks that want to see it for fun - like the ones here on gfy - but because of journalists, scientists, historians, politicians, activists, etc., so society has a way of checking the facts.


But that isn't really important. I'm talking about motivations and moral limitations here, not consequences. The murderers are killing people for political gains, cj is showing the vid as entertainment for financial gains, and thousands of people are watching it as entertainment.

I'm not criticizing a system in which stuff like that is possible, I'm criticizing the people doing it. I support freedom of expression, yet I will still consider someone a retarded piece of shit if he starts shouting nazi propaganda.
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they should really kill whom deserves it.
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Yes, we should destroy all photos and film of Nazi war atrocities too.

Here's a better idea, lets start burning it all and pretending it never happened.

Apparently you don't quite understand what I'm saying. Read my post above this one, maybe you'll get it then.
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Watching video of one is illegal, the other is not.
The law is a derivative of morals, not the other way around. I am talking about morals here, not about the law.

But apart from that... if watching kiddy porn wasn't illegal, it'd be okay to put it on websites, watch it for fun, etc? The only reason why that isn't okay is because it's illegal?
Not because it's wrong to use someone being victimized for profit/entertainment, but because some judge made a decision?
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There is a difference between not covering something up and using something purely for commercial gains. (note that I didn't say cj shouldn't be *allowed* to show the vid)

I think that is pretty moot when a venue is the only one showing a vid.

Whether it was for commercial gain means jack squat opposed to value of truth being told.

Shame on you who wish otherwise for us and/or your children.
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That was really upsetting
I managed to resist temptation and not download the first 2 videos but for some reason I did this one...
I'm sorry that I did and probably won't get the image of them sawing on his neck out of my head for some time

I REALLY do hope he was already dead....

Don't download it if you care about people I just realised I do!
My thoughts are with this guys family!
Its horrible that people are watching this guy be killed I would be soo upset if they killed one of my family then the rest of the world downloaded it, for entertainment

Was that the worst video of the 3?
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I think that is pretty moot when a venue is the only one showing a vid.

Whether it was for commercial gain means jack squat opposed to value of truth being told.

Shame on you who wish otherwise for us and/or your children.

The truth was being told already. It just wasn't being shown in full colour with sound.
If a videotape is made of your mother being raped by 10 guys, should it be put on cj.com as entertainment so the "truth" is told? Or is it enough that the public gets to hear about the facts and the trial and such, with the possibility of finding out more only after significant effort?

Aside from that, videos are easy to fake, so nothing is actually proven by showing this thing, it only serves as entertainment.

So no, cj are not doing a noble thing by putting this online, they're simply exploiting a gruesome event for financial gain.
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The truth was being told already. It just wasn't being shown in full colour with sound.
If a videotape is made of your mother being raped by 10 guys, should it be put on cj.com as entertainment so the "truth" is told?
If the other side claimed my mother tried to "entrap" them and a video existed that supported that it would be fair game.
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Or is it enough that the public gets to hear about the facts and the trial and such, with the possibility of finding out more only after significant effort?
Not sure what you're suggesting there
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Aside from that, videos are easy to fake, so nothing is actually proven by showing this thing, it only serves as entertainment.
Any evidence so far this video is fake?

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So no, cj are not doing a noble thing by putting this online, they're simply exploiting a gruesome event for financial gain. [/B]
Which you were free to not watch. Why should those who wish to be deprived? Could be someone watching the tape recognizes a perpetrator. Who decides what truths be told?
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Is it deadly? maybe for you it is and the people you deal with.

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I personally think that if Rick Latona crawled back under his rock the world would be a slightly better place.

I don't think he makes GFY a better place either.

Just another loser trying to drag as many people down into the mire and muck that he calls home.

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I personally think that if Rick Latona crawled back under his rock the world would be a slightly better place.

I don't think he makes GFY a better place either.

Just another loser trying to drag as many people down into the mire and muck that he calls home.

Ouch. Now my feelings are hurt.
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If the other side claimed my mother tried to "entrap" them and a video existed that supported that it would be fair game.

Not sure what you're suggesting there

Any evidence so far this video is fake?


Which you were free to not watch. Why should those who wish to be deprived? Could be someone watching the tape recognizes a perpetrator. Who decides what truths be told?

Are the iraqi guys who *made the video* and *gave it to al jazeera* trying to say it's entrapment and they really didn't do it?
Please stick with reality - the vid was put online for publicity, traffic and profit, and it's being watched for shock value / entertainment.
If there really was any doubt about whether the beheading happened ornot, though, a vid posted on cj.com wouldn't take away that doubt, since vids can be faked quite easily.


What I'm suggesting is that it would be better if information was available but people chose not to distribute it as entertainment. Quite simple, really.

You're trying to make it sound like I'm trying to support censorship, but that's not the case. I'm not saying cj shouldn't have the *right* to put this online, I'm saying it's sad and disgusting that they put something like this online purely for financial gains. Just like I'm not saying people shouldn't have the *right* to watch it, but that watching it for entertainment is sick and pathetic.


Think of it this way: people should have the right to be assholes, but that doesn't make being an asshole a good thing.
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No need to discuss this guys tactics for making money. Money talks. But for some it screams.
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I personally think that if Rick Latona crawled back under his rock the world would be a slightly better place.

I don't think he makes GFY a better place either.

Just another loser trying to drag as many people down into the mire and muck that he calls home.





Dude its business. Get a grip. One guy gets his head sawed off and everyone gets sensitive.

He's free from this shithole dimension at least.
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Ouch. Now my feelings are hurt.
They should be ya sleazebag, now go dish us up some more goodies
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You guys seem to think we made the decision to post this today. We made the decision years ago. People like to fuck, laugh and watch things die. Consumption Junction is in the sex, humor and violence business.

We've always posted content like this. We have a LONG history of it. Go back in our site to 9/11 and look at what we posted then. We had the shocking momemts live when the big news sites were down because we can handle more bandwidth then them.

We have an obligation to our fans to post these items. CJ isn't a porn site that posted a beheading video. It's an archive of all the crazy shit that goes around the Internet. Sex is only part of it, understand? We are the car wreck on the Internet where people stop and stare.

We are the destination site when there is a current event. It doesn't matter if it's a beheading or the star wars kid. When there is famous content on the net we post it! Not doing so would be destroying our business model. Nothing anything any of you say could ever change my mind. The cold reality is that you don't understand my business.
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Old 06-23-2004, 09:06 PM   #247
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Rick, be serious. You've shown us over and over again that you have no feelings, no scruples, no nothing.

You are an empty wasteland, hoping that someone/anyone wanders in to keep you company.

I sincerely feel sorry for you.

I hope your therapy is coming along nicely, let us know when you get out and we'll have cake and ice cream.

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This always happens. We've gone through this so many times in my office I lost count years ago. I'm just glad that no one has anything bad to say about me other than I have bad taste. I can sleep knowing that.
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I am serious Ian. And I'm tired. Trash me all you want I'm going to bed. Go and run your lame program that has no pizzaz and has made no impact since 1997. I'll be dreaming up the next project that'll break records and create something worth bragging about.

Don't forget about the Dollars.com demo tomorrow everyone:

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=316135
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