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SykkBoy · 04-30-2004, 12:17 PM

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Originally posted by papichulo
You're a whiny little punk ass welfare moron that needs the GOVERNMENT to wag his dick after he takes a piss.

Shut your piehole you fucking parasite and get me my Big Mac. Remember, I ordered fries with that, bitch ass!

yeah and you're the type who bitch about welfare leeches and government reliance and then you'll bitch that something needs to be done about gas prices...

most race baiting idiots like you don't want the government in their lives until they have a vested interest in what the government is handing out...

I love brainwashed pinhead lemmings like you who think labor unions and minimum wage is bad because you're a cheapass who'd rather hire someone for $1 then give them a decent living wage. You'd rather exploit them and their labor so you increase your profits. You'd rather have them suck your cock and shine your shoes for $1 an hour than pay them a little more to do better work.

50 exploitative bosses!

genomega · 04-30-2004, 12:23 PM

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Originally posted by MrPheer
Higher minimum wage equals more tax dollars for the government

I'm glad to see someone gets it. It's a tax hike.
The fed will get .25 or more of every dollar.

Mr. Marks · 04-30-2004, 04:21 PM

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Originally posted by SykkBoy2
yeah and you're the type who bitch about welfare leeches and government reliance and then you'll bitch that something needs to be done about gas prices...

most race baiting idiots like you don't want the government in their lives until they have a vested interest in what the government is handing out...

I love brainwashed pinhead lemmings like you who think labor unions and minimum wage is bad because you're a cheapass who'd rather hire someone for $1 then give them a decent living wage. You'd rather exploit them and their labor so you increase your profits. You'd rather have them suck your cock and shine your shoes for $1 an hour than pay them a little more to do better work.

50 exploitative bosses!

Stop depending so much on the government. YOU can do it.
Have faith in yourself.

Mr. Marks · 04-30-2004, 04:21 PM

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Originally posted by genomega
I'm glad to see someone gets it. It's a tax hike.
The fed will get .25 or more of every dollar.

Exactly. ITs a fucking tax hike that also jacks up inflation.

Tuzz · 04-30-2004, 04:51 PM

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Originally posted by blackmonsters
There is no "bottom" to the minimum wage.
I had homeless people in LA wiling to work all day for $5.00!
$5.00 is nothing but $5.00 worth of food is still more than $0.
A pack of smokes and a bag of beans is worth getting up for
when you're starving. But talk about an unreliable group of morons!!! I should have paid more and hired better.

You gotta spend money to make money; anyone ever hear
that? Well you might have to spend some on the employees.

Low wage earners quit all the time to find something better so then
the company spends $2000 by tying up other employees to hire and train the new guy that will quit in 3 weeks also causing them to spend another $2000.

Smart employers pay more; because they know this already.
Minimum wage is just for businesses that are still stupid enough to believe they make more thru exploitation of people. They didn't get the message back in the 1800's "it's more profitibale and productive to pay people who want to work than it is to keep trying to capture escaped slaves and investing in slaves that simply committed suicide to fuck you on your investment".

I saw a sign posted for McDonalds hiringing at $9.00 an hour.
McD's is tired of people quitting and tired of only getting morons to apply that have to be fired anyway because it's fucking up their overall productivity. "If we pay enough to hire someone
with a brain who speaks good english then they wont fuck the order up and the customer will come back"... Get it?

Shitty wages attract shitty emlployees who make the business shitty and people with money to spend avoid them like the plague.

Well said, and very true.

It amazes me how many business owners don't understand the
basic concept of a market economy. If there is one thing I have
learned over the years, it is the fact that You Get What You Pay For!

I pay approx. 30% more than the going rate for the trades in my area. What I get for this is loyal, dependable people.
My turnover rate is almost nil, and productivity is 110%.

Pay second rate wages and you WILL get second rate employees.
A bargain doesn't always save you money.

High Quality · 04-30-2004, 04:52 PM

Yeah, the minimum wage laws HELP NO ONE. I hear Oregon has a $9.50 min wage and everyone there is poor as fuck.

genomega · 04-30-2004, 05:38 PM

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Originally posted by twistyneck
Then you are more stupid than I ever thought possible. Without a minumum wage and unions, I can guarantee you that you'd see wages drop right down the shitter and along with it, our standard of living.

If you'd like to see an example of this, compare a union state to some shithole down south. The differences are astounding and funny enough, the union companies up north seem to be doing just fine.

How many companies with unions are left up north and will they move off shore next week?

Mr. Marks · 04-30-2004, 06:47 PM

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Originally posted by genomega
How many companies with unions are left up north and will they move off shore next week?

THANK YOU! Unfortunately, the fat pampered rats who live off of union benefits don't see that.

bignasty · 04-30-2004, 07:24 PM

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Originally posted by papichulo
If you own your own business, you would know what the FUCK I am talking about.

apparantly you have never owned or managed a successful business. You pay your employees what they're worth, give them their fair share, and keep them happy. Someone makes you $5000 a week, the deserve more than $200 of it. The worst thing that can happen to a business is disgruntled employees.

Mr. Marks · 04-30-2004, 07:38 PM

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Originally posted by bignasty
apparantly you have never owned or managed a successful business. You pay your employees what they're worth, give them their fair share, and keep them happy. Someone makes you $5000 a week, the deserve more than $200 of it. The worst thing that can happen to a business is disgruntled employees.

I believe in paying people what they are WORTH and nothing more. If things change, they get cut. Sentimental, wispy soft "business owners" like you make me laugh. Life isn't the diner in 'Happy Days,' Al....

bignasty · 04-30-2004, 07:53 PM

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Originally posted by papichulo
[B]Sentimental, wispy soft "business owners" like you make me laugh.

it aint about being sentimental wispy and soft. you do people (your employees) right they'll do you right. you treat them like shit they'll do the same to your business.

candidpublishinginc · 04-30-2004, 08:21 PM

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Originally posted by twistyneck
God you're retarded. The purpose of employees is to create a profit and if you can't pay your people a decent wage, then you are in the wrong business and/or you have shitty management.

You must not have much business experience.

You do not notice the high level of outsourcing that is going on? The market will ultimately dictate the wage.

candidpublishinginc · 04-30-2004, 08:28 PM

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Originally posted by papichulo
Actually, if there's no minimum wage, wages will gravitate to their "natural" price based on your skills.

Moreover, I do believe there's a "natural" bottom threshold for wage prices.

It's all about SUPPLY and DEMAND.

Just because we abolish the minimum wage, it doesn't mean everyone will be stuck with $1 an hour.

Exactly. Look at Hong Kong, the freest (and most Libertarian) economy in the world.

There are no minimum wage laws there but people's per capita income is on par with the U.S., Canada, and Europe.

Also there's a 16% flat tax there and if you are under a certain income level you don't have to pay income tax. Limited fucking government.

candidpublishinginc · 04-30-2004, 08:37 PM

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Originally posted by twistyneck
Then you are more stupid than I ever thought possible. Without a minumum wage and unions, I can guarantee you that you'd see wages drop right down the shitter and along with it, our standard of living.

If you'd like to see an example of this, compare a union state to some shithole down south. The differences are astounding and funny enough, the union companies up north seem to be doing just fine.

I'm sorry but you are a moron. Clearly you are only in this business as a hobby because you lack any sort of business sense.

Before you open your bullshit hole why don't you provide us with some sources that supports your theory?

Take a basic economics class before you spout off bullshit. Again let me repeat myself....look at Hong Kong....there is no minimum wage there yet nobody there is getting paid 50 cents an hour.

Mr. Marks · 04-30-2004, 08:39 PM

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Originally posted by candidpublishinginc
You must not have much business experience.

You do not notice the high level of outsourcing that is going on? The market will ultimately dictate the wage.

Exactly, man. Twistyneck's thinking is what got us into this mess in the first place. COMPETITIVENESS is key. How the fuck can someone compete when their WAGE COSTS are sky high?

candidpublishinginc · 04-30-2004, 08:42 PM

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Originally posted by blackmonsters
Shitty wages attract shitty emlployees who make the business shitty and people with money to spend avoid them like the plague.

Exactly. The wage set has to reflect a realistic income for that location. You can't pay someone 50 cents an hour if the cost of living is sky high otherwise you will be dealing with high turnover.

Of course with outsourcing the rules are changing since the cost of living is lower in China....but again the dollar (or Yuan over there) will go farther in China due to the lower cost of living.

You can't outsource Burger King employees though....so it's best to pay him a reasonable wage that would encourage them to stay with the company.

Mr. Marks · 04-30-2004, 08:43 PM

Very good example. Indeed, HK capital is one of the drivers of China's booming economy.

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Originally posted by candidpublishinginc
Exactly. Look at Hong Kong, the freest (and most Libertarian) economy in the world.

There are no minimum wage laws there but people's per capita income is on par with the U.S., Canada, and Europe.

Also there's a 16% flat tax there and if you are under a certain income level you don't have to pay income tax. Limited fucking government.

candidpublishinginc · 04-30-2004, 08:48 PM

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Originally posted by bignasty
apparantly you have never owned or managed a successful business. You pay your employees what they're worth, give them their fair share, and keep them happy. Someone makes you $5000 a week, the deserve more than $200 of it. The worst thing that can happen to a business is disgruntled employees.

I don't think anyone here is saying that you should pay employees dick. What is said is that government mandated minimum wage laws do not work, and that the free market should decide on a minimum wage.

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