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Jive · 03-02-2004, 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Meloman
This is what Maxcash helped pay for a few years ago:

Very large 4 unit apartment building 2 blocks from the ocean in San Francisco. And if you know SanFrancisco, it isn't cheap, lol

Maxcash Rocks!

same speech 2 years ago he bought this dump? he's a slum lord.
and a sack of shit too.. another cheap talker..
and works for cashquest as a moderator.. looser..

Doctor Dre · 03-02-2004, 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by polish_aristocrat

at first, I misundersttod that statement and wanted to write that "finally a program owner admits that ratios are getting worse".
But then I just realised that you mean that now you experience the best ratios since 2000.
Thta would be great but I am afraid it is not posible - all webmasters are bitching that their overall ratios are getting worse every year so I doubt Max Cash can be an expception.
But what do I know...

Wrong ! It's getting harder to convert it but when you find the right way the programs are getting better and better with years . You just have to find new ways to convert traffic . I did my best conversions a year ago or so ... and I've been arround for long

Doctor Dre · 03-02-2004, 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by CDSmith
Been sending a small steady trickle to them for years now. Still get a cheque from them like clockwork.... they are always in my list of sponsors I count on 100% for reliable on-time payments. Even back during the old court-case days when they were in crisis, their webmaster affiliates were always put highest on the priority list.

Maxcash =

Makes me remember a little something but I'm not sure ... what really happened cauz I don't remember . There were tons of threads about it on AWI back then I think

Doctor Dre · 03-02-2004, 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Meloman

Thanks :-)

I know it doesn't look all that exciting from the pic escpecially with all the kick ass homes others have posted....but it's the perfect starter investment for me :-) Property appreciation in San Francisco is awesome, hehe

sf cost so fucking much it's like a huge ass home here

KRL · 03-02-2004, 12:33 AM

Hey Rich. This was a great issue!

Image removed upon request.

on the mag!!

Doctor Dre · 03-02-2004, 12:34 AM

Talking about stability, there is a fucking karasxxx everyday on the hun for YEARS .

galleryseek · 03-02-2004, 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jive

same speech 2 years ago he bought this dump? he's a slum lord.
and a sack of shit too.. another cheap talker..
and works for cashquest as a moderator.. looser..

i've never really seen you post before but boy, you really sound like a fucking idiot!! LOL!!! HE.HE.

moron.

JimmySlits · 03-02-2004, 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jive

Right they had a nice members board until they lost everyone..

gee I wonder why? there program died along time ago don't waiste your time like I did on broken promises and fast cheapo talkers over there...

Dead?
LOL, You are so easy and predictable.

Lets have some fun.

Jive can you come up with a Happy positive saying to prove to everyone that you aren't a complete idiot?

Or better yet...how about something half entertaining. If you insist on making people read your poopoo at least make it funny poo.

It's a challenge, I know. But I am counting on something original, something to prove that Jive is the man, and not just another jackass

good luck bro don't make me look bad

PS: Keep posting, no matter what i say!
I have the over, on posts from you!

AWW - Kevin · 03-02-2004, 01:02 AM

i use maxcash and like them as well, would love to see them offer
some kinda icq though !

Observing · 03-02-2004, 01:12 AM

Nice statement, guess max cash need some good publicity. I think Max Cash people are a solid group and I have had great support and found them to be very nice people overall. However their ratios went dead for me. I had been converting them at around 1:150-200 for six months orso then two months in a row it was 1:1800+ so I let them go, but they always pay on time and always willing to help out, they would even have helped me figure out what happened to my ratio I'm sure I just moved on. I have found the "innovative" sponsors out there to do better for me the past year

WWC · 03-02-2004, 01:19 AM

Ditto! Stability and Experience = $

I remember Max Cash when it first started back in 1996...

VeriSexy · 03-02-2004, 01:58 AM

Maxcash use to convert pretty well.

Jive · 03-02-2004, 03:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by VeriSexy
Maxcash use to convert pretty well.

I got to admit what your saying was true but the sad part was they couldn't keep up the pace in paying everyone properly with out shaving the fuck outta webmasters like myself..I was one of many promoters way back a few 3+years ago
no one in there right mind would even bother to try and piss around and shave so much like they did! *facts* but they did and there once popular program fell apart? I remember they had one of the best chat rooms around until they started screwing everyone then they fell down hill fast webmasters in droves were running away from maxcash unfortunately they 'webmasters' ran over to yet another poorly run program 'adultrevenueservice' and the scam continued up until now both programs continue to pay but very little to most and sure there's always back room deals in the works if you get one.

when you see someone cheering for either of these low end sponsors most likely there employees and moderators running amuck and flaunting there cheerleading flags!

I don't like dis-honest bullshit programs and these turkeys are on top of the shit pile.. there's no money there anymore period.

my opinion and experiences that I have endured

good evening.

body · 03-02-2004, 03:06 AM

I used them, but never converted good

Jive · 03-02-2004, 03:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by body
I used them, but never converted good

Not to worry your not missing much, the only one that payed me sorta okay after the crap at http://maxcash.com was http://dollarmachine.com that lasted another 1+ year and then that in its self fell apart there isn't any long term sponsors around that i've noticed? if you find a decent one let me know..

I don't really deep down like to bash but I don't like the lies and bullshit flying in here lately, to much shit flying in the cybercircus!

you see people's homes they bought from Maxcash profits they made from this program,some use to work for them employees and payed talkers from other sponsors it's there job to speak.. that is all.. nothing more.. there not real independent promoters
just lowend staff. there just a 'joke' nothing more..

sure I made some very good money over the years and purchased some stuff but not from promoting those worthless programs they just tried to fuck me around don't get caught in the false trap! .. last message for tonight ceeya..

Jer · 03-02-2004, 03:40 AM

MaxCash was the first PPS program I've promoted.

BruceM · 03-02-2004, 03:47 AM

I see Jive has to ramble on as usual...amazingly he hasn't been banned yet.

I've always done great with Max Cash, especially with Kara's.

Dravyk · 03-02-2004, 04:57 AM

Ah, Jive has now become moron number three to be added to my ignore list! Takes a lot to get there but you have demonstrated you got what it takes. WTG, MoFo!

Mr.Fiction · 03-02-2004, 05:22 AM

Maxcash

Unban Labret and make Jive a GFY mod!

GiantGnome · 03-02-2004, 06:02 AM

Jive, shut the fuck up you whinny little bitch. All I ever see you doing is crying on other boards about MC. Do us all a favor and go play in the street.

RobD · 03-02-2004, 06:02 AM

MC Rocks!!!!!!!

03-02-2004, 10:18 AM

Good Luck MaxCash.
I get first $10K from MaxCash in 1999

BobB · 03-02-2004, 02:08 PM

As stated in the beginning, MaxCash isn't for everyone. But honesty has always come first and it is the truth that our signup ratios are better now than in 2000. It is also the truth that Jive was the person that was the least supportive of all our webmasters during the FTC event and was the person who liked to cause the most controversy on our boards. We try to help all our webmasters but Jive was beyond help. Some things never change. Garbage in = garbage out.

Meloman on the other hand, is one of the brightest and smartest webmasters that I have met since 1996. In fact, he's probably in the top 10. Some people sit around the boards and bitch all day, while others go out and figure how to maximize their revenue. There are people that run into a wall and stop, while there are others that figure out how to get beyond the wall. Spend 15 minutes talking to Carmello and you will immediately see that he "gets it".

BobB

SlickCash Sarah · 03-02-2004, 02:08 PM

DEFINATE THUMBS UP

MikeFold · 03-02-2004, 02:13 PM

got my very first pps sale at MC......

......and the most recent ones today

and a gazillion in between

TheGoldenChild · 03-02-2004, 07:16 PM

FOLD!

What's your license plate say????

greentea · 03-02-2004, 08:04 PM

quote:
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Brull Piccionelli Sarno Braun & Vradenburgh
A Professional Association
1925 Century Park East, Suite 2350
Los Angeles, CA 90067
Tel: (310) 553-3375
Fax: (310) 553-4120

November 13, 2001

Via FEDERAL EXPRESS and
EMAIL: [email protected]

Robert A. Sarno
E-mail: [email protected]
Direct Line: (323) 666-0485

Mr. Jive
(Deleted)
Vancouver, BC CAN V5N2R6

Re: RJB Telecom, Inc.; Robert Botto
Legal Action for Defamation/ Cease and Desist Notice

Mr.Jive : This law firm represents both RJB Telecom, Inc., the operator of the Maximum Cash (MaxCash) webmaster affiliate program, and Robert Botto, individually.

It has come to my clients' attention that you have been publishing false defamatory and malicious statements and accusations on the Internet directed against RJB Telecom, the Maximum Cash Program and Robert Botto. I have attached a copy of the text of the identical messages you posted on November 12, 2001 at the following urls: www.privatelabelresources.com and www.trafficswap.com. In both instances you posted these messages under the name "Jive". The email address for Jive is (deleted). I have also sent you a copy of this letter at that email address.

As I indicated, I have attached your statement in its entirety to this letter. Without going into all of the objectionable particulars of your statement, I would simply point out that you falsely accuse the Maximum Cash program as being fraudulent and that the owner of Maximum Cash, i.e., "RB" (Robert Botto) as being a "manipulator and a cheater" who is "scamming" participating webmasters by "shaving" traffic figures and "ripping" them off (i.e., defrauding them of commissions to which they are entitled). All of these allegations of wrong doing on the part of Robert Botto, RJB Telecom, Inc., and Maximum Cash are totally baseless, untrue and false. Your false statements are made either made with knowledge of the falsity of those statements or with a reckless disregard of the falsity of those statements. Moreover, your defamation falsely implies that Robert Botto is engaging in criminal conduct, and therefore constitutes libel per se.

This is to put you on notice that your false and slanderous statements and accusations against my clients constitute intentional defamation and tortuous interference with prospective business opportunities. Your false and defamatory statements, published in the chat rooms of web sites catering to adult webmasters, appear to be designed and calculated to inflict the greatest possible damage on my clients' business interests and reputation within the very industry that they do business.

On behalf of my clients I make a formal demand on you to immediately cease and desist from any further publication, either in writing or verbally, of defamatory and slanderous false statements and accusations against RJB Telecom, Inc., the Maximum Cash Affiliate Program, Robert Botto or any other person or persons associated with any of them.

If we determine that you make any further defamatory or slanderous statements regarding my clients, my law firm has been authorized to take all appropriate actions to protect their rights, including filing a complaint against you for your willful and malicious tortuous actions in which we will seek maximum monetary damages, including compensatory and punitive damages, injunctive relief and attorneys fees.

I note that your address is in Canada. Lest you mistakenly believe that your actions can not be punished or that you can escape liability because your residence is outside the United States, let me assure you that we are fully prepared to pursue this matter in the United States Federal District Court or, if necessary, to engage our Canadian attorneys to prosecute this matter against you directly in the appropriate Canadian courts.

Please henceforth direct all communications concerning this matter to the undersigned.
I look forward to your timely response, and thank you in advance for your anticipated cooperation. On the other hand, should you choose not be cooperative, rest assured that this law firm will vigorously and ardently pursue every legal avenue available to vindicate my clients' rights and secure full compensation for their damages.

I strongly urge you to contact me directly upon receipt of this letter to communicate your unconditional agreement to comply. If I do not receive a satisfactory response from you within 5 days of receipt of this letter I will proceed with filing a lawsuit against you.

This letter is written without prejudice to any rights of our clients, including, but not limited to, rights to injunctive relief, compensatory and punitive damages and attrorneys' fees.

Very truly yours,

Robert A. Sarno

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For those of you with a Maxcash reseller account here is the full thread link:

http://forums.maxcash.com/showthrea...e=&view=&sb=&o=

MikeFold · 03-02-2004, 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kBizzle
FOLD!

What's your license plate say????

KB.....how ya doing ex clevelander

you mean on the 2000 vette?

Xenophage · 03-02-2004, 09:06 PM

Fold is Da man !

Socks · 03-02-2004, 09:26 PM

Please tell me about a few of the BEST sites on the maxcash roster, and the NEW sites on teh maxcash roster.

Thanks!

MikeFold · 03-02-2004, 10:04 PM

Lars....the legendary one...
((o;

see that white stuff in the pic...
thats snow

Just visit the site for the list ....or, check the exit consoles of many major programs
you'll see karas on just about all of them socks

$5 submissions · 03-02-2004, 10:10 PM

Right on, Max Cash!

Ironhorse · 03-02-2004, 10:14 PM

My biggest non-design sponsor check was Maxcash

slapass · 03-02-2004, 10:20 PM

In looking at Feb Maxcash is one of my best converting sponsors. Keep it up!

RichC · 03-03-2004, 10:30 AM

Socks, when you log into the Max Cash webmaster member area, you will find a top 25 list on the right hand side of the page that breaks that down for you.

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03-02-2004, 01:02 AM	#59
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03-02-2004, 01:12 AM	#60
Observing Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 809	Nice statement, guess max cash need some good publicity. I think Max Cash people are a solid group and I have had great support and found them to be very nice people overall. However their ratios went dead for me. I had been converting them at around 1:150-200 for six months orso then two months in a row it was 1:1800+ so I let them go, but they always pay on time and always willing to help out, they would even have helped me figure out what happened to my ratio I'm sure I just moved on. I have found the "innovative" sponsors out there to do better for me the past year __________________ ICQ: 278-457-533

03-02-2004, 01:19 AM	#61
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03-02-2004, 01:58 AM	#62
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03-02-2004, 03:06 AM	#64
body Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 5,011	I used them, but never converted good __________________ The Goddess Of Steps

03-02-2004, 03:40 AM	#66
Jer God is Brazilian Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Brazil Posts: 10,601	MaxCash was the first PPS program I've promoted.

03-02-2004, 03:47 AM	#67
BruceM Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 4,084	I see Jive has to ramble on as usual...amazingly he hasn't been banned yet. I've always done great with Max Cash, especially with Kara's. __________________ SellHealth - Sell Herbal Sex Enhancers, HGH Releasers and more! Skype: brucemorrey

03-02-2004, 04:57 AM	#68
Dravyk Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Yo, Philly! Posts: 1,202	Ah, Jive has now become moron number three to be added to my ignore list! Takes a lot to get there but you have demonstrated you got what it takes. WTG, MoFo! __________________ All Of 'Em

03-02-2004, 05:22 AM	#69
Mr.Fiction Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Free Speech Land Posts: 9,484	Maxcash Unban Labret and make Jive a GFY mod! __________________ Don't be lazy, protect free speech: ACLU \| Free Speech Coalition \| EFF \| IMPA

03-02-2004, 06:02 AM	#70
GiantGnome Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Nebraska Posts: 4,344	Jive, shut the fuck up you whinny little bitch. All I ever see you doing is crying on other boards about MC. Do us all a favor and go play in the street.

03-02-2004, 06:02 AM	#71
RobD Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 687	MC Rocks!!!!!!!

03-02-2004, 10:18 AM	#72
Alex Xe Guest Posts: n/a	Good Luck MaxCash. I get first $10K from MaxCash in 1999

03-02-2004, 02:08 PM	#73
BobB Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 3	As stated in the beginning, MaxCash isn't for everyone. But honesty has always come first and it is the truth that our signup ratios are better now than in 2000. It is also the truth that Jive was the person that was the least supportive of all our webmasters during the FTC event and was the person who liked to cause the most controversy on our boards. We try to help all our webmasters but Jive was beyond help. Some things never change. Garbage in = garbage out. Meloman on the other hand, is one of the brightest and smartest webmasters that I have met since 1996. In fact, he's probably in the top 10. Some people sit around the boards and bitch all day, while others go out and figure how to maximize their revenue. There are people that run into a wall and stop, while there are others that figure out how to get beyond the wall. Spend 15 minutes talking to Carmello and you will immediately see that he "gets it". BobB

03-02-2004, 02:08 PM	#74
SlickCash Sarah Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Toronto-I would rather DIE of thirst, then drink from the cup of MEDIOCRITY! Posts: 2,055	DEFINATE THUMBS UP

03-02-2004, 02:13 PM	#75
MikeFold Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: semi-retired Posts: 465	got my very first pps sale at MC...... ......and the most recent ones today and a gazillion in between

03-02-2004, 07:16 PM	#76
TheGoldenChild Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Pacific Palisades Posts: 6,940	FOLD! What's your license plate say???? __________________

03-02-2004, 08:04 PM	#77
greentea Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: South Florida Posts: 6,580	quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Brull Piccionelli Sarno Braun & Vradenburgh A Professional Association 1925 Century Park East, Suite 2350 Los Angeles, CA 90067 Tel: (310) 553-3375 Fax: (310) 553-4120 November 13, 2001 Via FEDERAL EXPRESS and EMAIL: [email protected] Robert A. Sarno E-mail: [email protected] Direct Line: (323) 666-0485 Mr. Jive (Deleted) Vancouver, BC CAN V5N2R6 Re: RJB Telecom, Inc.; Robert Botto Legal Action for Defamation/ Cease and Desist Notice Mr.Jive : This law firm represents both RJB Telecom, Inc., the operator of the Maximum Cash (MaxCash) webmaster affiliate program, and Robert Botto, individually. It has come to my clients' attention that you have been publishing false defamatory and malicious statements and accusations on the Internet directed against RJB Telecom, the Maximum Cash Program and Robert Botto. I have attached a copy of the text of the identical messages you posted on November 12, 2001 at the following urls: www.privatelabelresources.com and www.trafficswap.com. In both instances you posted these messages under the name "Jive". The email address for Jive is (deleted). I have also sent you a copy of this letter at that email address. As I indicated, I have attached your statement in its entirety to this letter. Without going into all of the objectionable particulars of your statement, I would simply point out that you falsely accuse the Maximum Cash program as being fraudulent and that the owner of Maximum Cash, i.e., "RB" (Robert Botto) as being a "manipulator and a cheater" who is "scamming" participating webmasters by "shaving" traffic figures and "ripping" them off (i.e., defrauding them of commissions to which they are entitled). All of these allegations of wrong doing on the part of Robert Botto, RJB Telecom, Inc., and Maximum Cash are totally baseless, untrue and false. Your false statements are made either made with knowledge of the falsity of those statements or with a reckless disregard of the falsity of those statements. Moreover, your defamation falsely implies that Robert Botto is engaging in criminal conduct, and therefore constitutes libel per se. This is to put you on notice that your false and slanderous statements and accusations against my clients constitute intentional defamation and tortuous interference with prospective business opportunities. Your false and defamatory statements, published in the chat rooms of web sites catering to adult webmasters, appear to be designed and calculated to inflict the greatest possible damage on my clients' business interests and reputation within the very industry that they do business. On behalf of my clients I make a formal demand on you to immediately cease and desist from any further publication, either in writing or verbally, of defamatory and slanderous false statements and accusations against RJB Telecom, Inc., the Maximum Cash Affiliate Program, Robert Botto or any other person or persons associated with any of them. If we determine that you make any further defamatory or slanderous statements regarding my clients, my law firm has been authorized to take all appropriate actions to protect their rights, including filing a complaint against you for your willful and malicious tortuous actions in which we will seek maximum monetary damages, including compensatory and punitive damages, injunctive relief and attorneys fees. I note that your address is in Canada. Lest you mistakenly believe that your actions can not be punished or that you can escape liability because your residence is outside the United States, let me assure you that we are fully prepared to pursue this matter in the United States Federal District Court or, if necessary, to engage our Canadian attorneys to prosecute this matter against you directly in the appropriate Canadian courts. Please henceforth direct all communications concerning this matter to the undersigned. I look forward to your timely response, and thank you in advance for your anticipated cooperation. On the other hand, should you choose not be cooperative, rest assured that this law firm will vigorously and ardently pursue every legal avenue available to vindicate my clients' rights and secure full compensation for their damages. I strongly urge you to contact me directly upon receipt of this letter to communicate your unconditional agreement to comply. If I do not receive a satisfactory response from you within 5 days of receipt of this letter I will proceed with filing a lawsuit against you. This letter is written without prejudice to any rights of our clients, including, but not limited to, rights to injunctive relief, compensatory and punitive damages and attrorneys' fees. Very truly yours, Robert A. Sarno -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- For those of you with a Maxcash reseller account here is the full thread link: http://forums.maxcash.com/showthrea...e=&view=&sb=&o= __________________ blunts

03-02-2004, 09:06 PM	#79
Xenophage Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 12,122	Fold is Da man !

03-02-2004, 09:26 PM	#80
Socks Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 8,475	Please tell me about a few of the BEST sites on the maxcash roster, and the NEW sites on teh maxcash roster. Thanks!

03-02-2004, 10:04 PM	#81
MikeFold Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: semi-retired Posts: 465	Lars....the legendary one... ((o; see that white stuff in the pic... thats snow Just visit the site for the list ....or, check the exit consoles of many major programs you'll see karas on just about all of them socks

03-02-2004, 10:10 PM	#82
$5 submissions I help you SUCCEED Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: The Pearl of the Orient Seas Posts: 32,195	Right on, Max Cash! __________________ Need a NON-ADULT income stream? We build your YOUTUBE CHANNEL for only $20 per video! For Hire: $3/hour or $400 per month Marketing Specialist Virtual Assistants

03-02-2004, 10:14 PM	#83
Ironhorse Pixel Pusher Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 7,093	My biggest non-design sponsor check was Maxcash __________________ [email protected]

03-02-2004, 10:20 PM	#84
slapass Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 14,622	In looking at Feb Maxcash is one of my best converting sponsors. Keep it up!

03-03-2004, 10:30 AM	#85
RichC Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: by ocean Posts: 368	Socks, when you log into the Max Cash webmaster member area, you will find a top 25 list on the right hand side of the page that breaks that down for you. __________________ I brought the flutes this time