I actually want to be on the side of the sponsors. I want to believe that they (sponsors in general) are as pure as the driven snow. I just can't anymore. I suppose I've tried about as many sponsors as the next guy (hundreds perhaps) and I'm down to two or three and all they get is leftover traffic from ancient sites. I guess I just got pissed off one time too many and that combined with the success of doing my own stuff has left me somewhat jaded. This might sound stupid but when I saw the ratios I was getting at my own stuff compared to what I was getting at sponsors, I really felt betrayed. It immediately became crystal clear what had been going on.
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Hey, stupid clueless fuck....am I to understand this correctly? You are saying in front of this whole board that I can send you as many signups as I like, using the wording that Brazzer did ("And don't forget to cancel your membership as soon as you're done jerking off, THAT WAY EVERYTHING IS FREE!"), and you will pay me per signup on them? With stats available directly from the processor?
1) Show me any part of this thread where I actually said that TELLING customers to cancel was ok.
2) If you can not read - Why are you calling me a stupid fuck - ?
Go back to school - And if you consider yourself a businessman - Stick to real words!
I never said Wegcash was wrong and I never said This guy was right to do what he did - Telling somebody to cancel after joining is out of order - As simple as that.
All of my members see a cancellation button when they join - I sell my memberships with a one click cancellation option of termination.
But I am not such a clueless fuck - Whatever that is -
Every person that joins, I guarantee I make a profit from . I have been in this biz since 1966 - I really have learned one or two things -
And I can put a sentence together without calling some person who happens to say what I dislike, a clueless fuck -
Since 1996, I have "canned" one person - And that was within 36 hours of him joining my progamme and cheating - I also alerted many other progammes that this guy was screwing.
I didn't sit back and wait for the sum to rise into thousands befoe canning him - I caught him right from the word go and stopped him there.
It is blatantly obvious what has happened here?http://www.college-hotties.com/06/trial.html is a much easier sell to the surfer, at the expense of the program?very maliciously done as if there was no thought behind the premise that in such a symbiotic business arrangement, 2 things worth an expected VALUE to the other party are exchanged
Why was it done? More signups than would have been referred otherwise
I think CD is right, the same situation might not have happened if it was a 50/50 program, because it would not have been in the affiliate?s best interest...
As for purposefully loading the account, WEG is a large company with a limited amount of employees...unless there is a giant (high-volume anomaly) red flag waving, I do not think that they can be expected to instantly know when an account is violating their TOS...it is more likely that they have a process to regularly audit all accounts (perhaps the non-performing accounts first) and when they find one, they contact them, disable account, hold funds, move on to the next issue, and so forth
As far as paying for the alleged 'good traffic' there has not yet been any mention on the resources and overhead that it had originally cost them for the initial ?bad signups??which WEG cannot be expected to absorb. Do they send invoices out for accounts that have taken advantage of them? No, you play by the rules, send signups in good faith, and you will get paid?
I normally don?t post on topics such as this, but after reading it, and the justifications, I got a bit fired up
WEG is and continues to be a stand up program, and great guys?a screenshot is worth a thousand posts
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FUCK WEGCASH , STAY AWAY FROM THEM ....AND MOST OF ALL DONT BELIEVE A WORD THEY SAY!!!!!
When you start making money they'll fuck you....thats the only guarantee you have with them.
Peace
Brazzer
Brazzer, you are such a fucking hypocrite! You bullshit about not needing $5000, yet you sell out your own reputation for less than a tenth of that! Pay your bills and people will trust you.
A webmaster I actually RESPECT says, "Reputation is everything in this business". I believe it, and you will too.
Brazzer, you are such a fucking hypocrite! You bullshit about not needing $5000, yet you sell out your own reputation for less than a tenth of that! Pay your bills and people will trust you.
A webmaster I actually RESPECT says, "Reputation is everything in this business". I believe it, and you will too.
You admit that you violated our terms of service. You admit that we emailed you. ...
"You may not...engage in any other marketing activity which is intended to create a signup which is not completely voluntary and made on a good faith intent to become a member of our site(s)."
Now do you think this site was following the rules?
Why bump such an old thread?
Because Brazzer hasn't changed. He is an unethical webmaster who needs to be slapped down. Because YOU need to know who you can't trust.
Originally posted by Brazzer CDSmith, Hugh fuck...kimmy, twistedcock....and all of you guys that still didnt get the point of this thread...
I was doing galleries and pimping porn when you guys were still click on ur own banners trying to make a dollar.
I was around when xpics was paying 18 cents/click no conversion....I was advertising babenet before they came out...I was getting listed on the hun in 1998...
Man, this is hilarious.
I was also around when XPics was paying 18 cents a click without conversion. Somehow, I don't think that makes me very special. I know it doesn't make me more significant in this industry than KimmyKim or CDSmith.
Originally posted by Sly_RJ You cheated their program. You're a cheater no matter how you try to justify it. They have every right to can you and deny ALL PAYMENT.
Rule #1: Don't try cheating programs. They WILL find you.
After 4 years in this industry, I would think you already knew this.
like i cheated this program, which made me about 0.003 percent of my income
sly RJ they throw people because they dont like the traffic, even when its pure SE traffic and i think you are not too stupid to think that we need cheat some 1usd per mail program
At this time a satisfactory payment has been received. I hereby retract my previous statement until further notice. Should my business relationship with Brazzer continue in any form, I will post a further statement for or against his character here. If I do not post in this thread again, you may safely assume that Brazzer and I are no longer doing business with one another, and that he has not charged back his payment or in any other way behaved dishonorably.
I apologize for once again bumping this thread; please let it die at this time.
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