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AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 01-29-2004, 05:43 PM

Let me explaine why I hate you.

First:
You are pawns in a rich man's game. You have no clue of what balance you hold in the fate of companies on almost all levels of design development.
What you create is invaluable and often a key to some of the success.
However...
You usually completely fuck yourselves in the long run. You under charge for your services whether you live in Korea, or the Czech your services are totally cheap and I outsource and take complete advantage of you. Think about that? If a designer referr's out work to you cause your so fucking cheap your doing something wrong or I am doing something right until you realise it.
Since 1996 and a bit earlier I have built for and worked for the largest companies the fucking net has ever known. I've helped make many men rich with my work and idea's not just on the design level but on strategic levels as well that involve design.

Second:
I never got much for it until I started my own things. I am only this biz for maybe another 2 years tops. I got my retirement all set up. I can retire tomarrow and not give a fuck about any of this. All the while most you designers attempting to make way will never be as lucky as me as each of you copy each other and not look at the bigger picture for your own success.
I love you dumb fucks otherwise I wouldnt hate on ya.

Third:
You have no clue about skills needed to help create true success.
Optimizing your designs, doing counts of images, the correction of images for use in design. Hows browsers actually read HTML and accelerating download times with crafty coding. Ultimatly your fucked up designs are fucking up great companies. You think "Click here for free access" are the words of god but it is a good example of how retarded most of you are.

Fourth:
You wannabe designers don't give a fuck about the long term of our industry and the damage you contribute to it. All them scammers out there that have wrecked our industry designs have been supplied to. I have seen plenty of design done for scammers and often I can even identify who the designer is that supplied them. Thats pretty fucked up don't ya think? I do. As a creative individual knowledgeable of the industry you goto know when to say NO. But you don't and contribute to the symphonie of destruction.

Fifth:
Why the fuck are your reading this? Get the fuck out of here and study up on design. There is no need for you here. You think I give a fuck whether or not my sig gets clicked and I get business from it? Either way I do not care. Busines is business but I do not do the kinda business that fucks up our industry and I certainly do not base my drumming up of good clients on my sig.
So again. Learn and read the fucking manual on not only how to design but understand viability of the industry your trying to work in.

Sixth:
You probly do not understand a fucking thing I said...
But if ya did ya might have a little respect for an old timer that stands to help you. You think I crack open photoshop every day?
Well I do, but often enough I am relegating out work and teaching other designers how to do shit...

So...
Suck my cock its not that hard ya just goto pay attention on how shit works to be successful.

detoxed · 01-29-2004, 05:45 PM

yes most designers are idiots. the ones that know what makes people join are the ones making $100k+ a year just a few designs

stocktrader23 · 01-29-2004, 05:45 PM

I make my living from pages typed in notepad. Jump off a cliff and see if anyone misses you Mister Designer.

block · 01-29-2004, 05:47 PM

I have to agree with you that it is better to pay much more for a better converting design.

detoxed · 01-29-2004, 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by stocktrader23
I make my living from pages typed in notepad. Jump off a cliff and see if anyone misses you Mister Designer.

photoshop is designing. You have my l33t notepad skills. I havent had to learn anything new in 5 years! But I learned stylesheets just for the hell of it

stocktrader23 · 01-29-2004, 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by detoxed

photoshop is designing. You have my l33t notepad skills. I havent had to learn anything new in 5 years! But I learned stylesheets just for the hell of it

He knows what I'm talking about. He commented that if there were no designers most of us would be on the curb. Being my shit does better than any "designed" stuff I have seen I tend to disagree.

FrankWhite · 01-29-2004, 05:55 PM

Again you crying

Roald · 01-29-2004, 05:58 PM

Amputate Your Head · 01-29-2004, 05:58 PM

interestingly enough, I actually read all the way through that.

DeanCapture · 01-29-2004, 05:59 PM

There are web designers and then there are artists. I can tell this fella' is passionate about his work ... as I am about mine. But that was a bit much I think

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 01-29-2004, 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by detoxed
yes most designers are idiots. the ones that know what makes people join are the ones making $100k+ a year just a few designs

Fuckin Bingo.

russian_agent_69 · 01-29-2004, 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AlienQ
Let me explaine why I hate you.

First:
You are pawns in a rich man's game. You have no clue of what balance you hold in the fate of companies on almost all levels of design development.
What you create is invaluable and often a key to some of the success.
However...
You usually completely fuck yourselves in the long run. You under charge for your services whether you live in Korea, or the Czech your services are totally cheap and I outsource and take complete advantage of you. Think about that? If a designer referr's out work to you cause your so fucking cheap your doing something wrong or I am doing something right until you realise it.
Since 1996 and a bit earlier I have built for and worked for the largest companies the fucking net has ever known. I've helped make many men rich with my work and idea's not just on the design level but on strategic levels as well that involve design.

Second:
I never got much for it until I started my own things. I am only this biz for maybe another 2 years tops. I got my retirement all set up. I can retire tomarrow and not give a fuck about any of this. All the while most you designers attempting to make way will never be as lucky as me as each of you copy each other and not look at the bigger picture for your own success.
I love you dumb fucks otherwise I wouldnt hate on ya.

Third:
You have no clue about skills needed to help create true success.
Optimizing your designs, doing counts of images, the correction of images for use in design. Hows browsers actually read HTML and accelerating download times with crafty coding. Ultimatly your fucked up designs are fucking up great companies. You think "Click here for free access" are the words of god but it is a good example of how retarded most of you are.

Fourth:
You wannabe designers don't give a fuck about the long term of our industry and the damage you contribute to it. All them scammers out there that have wrecked our industry designs have been supplied to. I have seen plenty of design done for scammers and often I can even identify who the designer is that supplied them. Thats pretty fucked up don't ya think? I do. As a creative individual knowledgeable of the industry you goto know when to say NO. But you don't and contribute to the symphonie of destruction.

Fifth:
Why the fuck are your reading this? Get the fuck out of here and study up on design. There is no need for you here. You think I give a fuck whether or not my sig gets clicked and I get business from it? Either way I do not care. Busines is business but I do not do the kinda business that fucks up our industry and I certainly do not base my drumming up of good clients on my sig.
So again. Learn and read the fucking manual on not only how to design but understand viability of the industry your trying to work in.

Sixth:
You probly do not understand a fucking thing I said...
But if ya did ya might have a little respect for an old timer that stands to help you. You think I crack open photoshop every day?
Well I do, but often enough I am relegating out work and teaching other designers how to do shit...

So...
Suck my cock its not that hard ya just goto pay attention on how shit works to be successful.

Just my

, but you need to take your own advice on #3. Your designs are nothing to write home about.

The Truth Hurts · 01-29-2004, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by stocktrader23
I make my living from pages typed in notepad. Jump off a cliff and see if anyone misses you Mister Designer.

I thought you made a living playing poker and spamming ifriends?

I need to keep up with the board more closely.

I'm slacking lately.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 01-29-2004, 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DeanCapture
There are web designers and then there are artists. I can tell this fella' is passionate about his work ... as I am about mine. But that was a bit much I think

1995-1996 thats a long time in this business.
And if you been in it that long ya can not say that ya feel no admonishment from the direction it has taken online.

stocktrader23 · 01-29-2004, 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Truth Hurts

I thought you made a living playing poker and spamming ifriends?

I need to keep up with the board more closely.

I'm slacking lately.

I still play poker, and still bank more off my initial $100 investment than most people here make in adult.

Amputate Your Head · 01-29-2004, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AlienQ

1995-1996 thats a long time in this business.

it's really not.

I know alot of people here like to think they invented sliced bread, because they've been in the biz since "BEFORE TIME!" (meaning sometime in the mid 90's), but we're talking about a span of time that isn't even a full decade. I have t-shirts older than that.

Put it into perspective:

#1: That's not alot of time for anything.
#2: It's certainly not alot of time for a business that changes dramatically on virtually a weekly (if not daily) basis.

I remember when computers didn't exist. There were no fucking computers when I was in school. There was no fucking Internet. We used keypunch cards for fucks sake. And THAT was state of the art!

This shit is every bit of the phrase, "in its infancy".

Let the old timers brag it up about how they "pioneered" all this shit.... whatever gives someone a sense of self-worth & importance.... doesn't much matter in the long run. The fact is, less than ten years is truly, nothing.

jonasty · 01-29-2004, 06:09 PM

i feel your pain. kinda.

i've been a professional designer since '89. the repugnant shite that passes for design in this industry is incredible. spectacularly jacked up media. my favorite is the print work. damn. i almost get a fucking seizure looking through avn or avnonline.

but your comment about the "Click Here..." crap might be misguided. i've had to make stupid looking shit my whole career. i let go of it a long time ago. that "Click Here..." text is probably at the client's request. i can't tell you how many great designs i've mangled for dumb-ass clients. they fail to realize that the reason they hired me is because i'm the designer, not them - if i choose a font or color it's for a reason. i've done my best to explain color theory to as many people as possible. the rainbow is in the same order every time 'cause that's the visible light spectrum. no way around it.

i'm going on my own again after next week. i plan to do a large amount of adult design along with some mainstream. i'm going to charge what the work is worth and i'm going to do my best to raise the bar and get more good design out there in spankville.

Roald · 01-29-2004, 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head

it's really not.

I know alot of people here like to think they invented sliced bread, because they've been in the biz since "BEFORE TIME!" (meaning sometime in the mid 90's), but we're talking about a span of time that isn't even a full decade. I have t-shirts older than that.

Put it into perspective:

#1: That's not alot of time for anything.
#2: It's certainly not alot of time for a business that changes dramatically on virtually a weekly (if not daily) basis.

I remember when computers didn't exist. There were no fucking computers when I was in school. There was no fucking Internet. We used keypunch cards for fucks sake. And THAT was state of the art!

This shit is every bit of the phrase, "in its infancy".

Let the old timers brag it up about how they "pioneered" all this shit.... whatever gives someone a sense of self-worth & importance.... doesn't much matter in the long run. The fact is, less than ten years is truly, nothing.

amen

The Truth Hurts · 01-29-2004, 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head

Let the old timers brag it up about how they "pioneered" all this shit.... whatever gives someone a sense of self-worth & importance.... doesn't much matter in the long run. The fact is, less than ten years is truly, nothing.

There's been a lot of "pioneering" appearance-wise, it's just been so watered down by jock riders that it's almost impossible to distinguish one site from another now.

Sly_RJ · 01-29-2004, 06:16 PM

What exactly does being an artist have to do with marketing?

blackmonsters · 01-29-2004, 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AlienQ
Let me explaine why I hate you.

First:
You are pawns in a rich man's game. You have no clue of what balance you hold in the fate of companies on almost all levels of design development.
What you create is invaluable and often a key to some of the success.
However...
You usually completely fuck yourselves in the long run. You under charge for your services whether you live in Korea, or the Czech your services are totally cheap and I outsource and take complete advantage of you. Think about that? If a designer referr's out work to you cause your so fucking cheap your doing something wrong or I am doing something right until you realise it.
Since 1996 and a bit earlier I have built for and worked for the largest companies the fucking net has ever known. I've helped make many men rich with my work and idea's not just on the design level but on strategic levels as well that involve design.

Second:
I never got much for it until I started my own things. I am only this biz for maybe another 2 years tops. I got my retirement all set up. I can retire tomarrow and not give a fuck about any of this. All the while most you designers attempting to make way will never be as lucky as me as each of you copy each other and not look at the bigger picture for your own success.
I love you dumb fucks otherwise I wouldnt hate on ya.

Third:
You have no clue about skills needed to help create true success.
Optimizing your designs, doing counts of images, the correction of images for use in design. Hows browsers actually read HTML and accelerating download times with crafty coding. Ultimatly your fucked up designs are fucking up great companies. You think "Click here for free access" are the words of god but it is a good example of how retarded most of you are.

Fourth:
You wannabe designers don't give a fuck about the long term of our industry and the damage you contribute to it. All them scammers out there that have wrecked our industry designs have been supplied to. I have seen plenty of design done for scammers and often I can even identify who the designer is that supplied them. Thats pretty fucked up don't ya think? I do. As a creative individual knowledgeable of the industry you goto know when to say NO. But you don't and contribute to the symphonie of destruction.

Fifth:
Why the fuck are your reading this? Get the fuck out of here and study up on design. There is no need for you here. You think I give a fuck whether or not my sig gets clicked and I get business from it? Either way I do not care. Busines is business but I do not do the kinda business that fucks up our industry and I certainly do not base my drumming up of good clients on my sig.
So again. Learn and read the fucking manual on not only how to design but understand viability of the industry your trying to work in.

Sixth:
You probly do not understand a fucking thing I said...
But if ya did ya might have a little respect for an old timer that stands to help you. You think I crack open photoshop every day?
Well I do, but often enough I am relegating out work and teaching other designers how to do shit...

So...
Suck my cock its not that hard ya just goto pay attention on how shit works to be successful.

You need to get some pussy.

Here is a list of rants that is equal to your thinking:

* Why cook hamburgers for free at home when you could be McDonlads?

* Why right C++ code for shit money when you could write Windows.

* Why play touch football when you could just "join" the NFL

* Why fuck a fat bitch when you should be fucking Paris Hilton?

Why???????
Because people do what <font size=+3>they</font> can do which is not always what me or you can do.

The Truth Hurts · 01-29-2004, 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sly_RJ
What exactly does being an artist have to do with marketing?

Let me guess... you only buy "no frills" white boxed breakfast cereal... right?

jonasty · 01-29-2004, 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head

it's really not.

I know alot of people here like to think they invented sliced bread, because they've been in the biz since "BEFORE TIME!" (meaning sometime in the mid 90's), but we're talking about a span of time that isn't even a full decade. I have t-shirts older than that.

hells yeah bruddah. my first porn design gig was back in '94 at a little place in chatsworth called VCA Pictures. it was all "center" and "blink" tag before i got in it... pre-drop shadow days.

quiet · 01-29-2004, 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sly_RJ
What exactly does being an artist have to do with marketing?

i don't know, but i must be one hell of an artist!!

Sly_RJ · 01-29-2004, 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Truth Hurts

Let me guess... you only buy "no frills" white boxed breakfast cereal... right?

I like Wheaties actually.

Sly_RJ · 01-29-2004, 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet

i don't know, but i must be one hell of an artist!!

Apparently only nice flashy designs sell. You fucker! Your iBill stats have all been photoshopped!

Roald · 01-29-2004, 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sly_RJ

Apparently only nice flashy designs sell. You fucker! Your iBill stats have all been photoshopped!

I KNEW IT

DeanCapture · 01-29-2004, 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AlienQ

1995-1996 thats a long time in this business.
And if you been in it that long ya can not say that ya feel no admonishment from the direction it has taken online.

No..no, I think you make valid points, I just would not have expressed it quite that way....that's all.

To each his own

Ironhorse · 01-29-2004, 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AlienQ

Fuckin Bingo.

So what are you saying? If you're not in the top 1% you should give up and stop breathing, because some no-name thinks everyone but himself is wrong. Go fuck yourself buddy

echodotcom · 01-29-2004, 06:25 PM

sure they make alot of money

stocktrader23 · 01-29-2004, 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet

i don't know, but i must be one hell of an artist!!

Quit playing. We all know you paid top dollar to a designer/ marketing expert to have your site done.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 01-29-2004, 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ironhorse

So what are you saying? If you're not in the top 1% you should give up and stop breathing, because some no-name thinks everyone but himself is wrong. Go fuck yourself buddy

Like I said...
I don't expect everyone to understand.

Realise the value of ability and its potential which obviously you have failed to grasp.

Go make some Farm sex sites where you belong....

Roald · 01-29-2004, 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AlienQ

Like I said...
I don't expect everyone to understand.

Realise the value of ability and its potential which obviously you have failed to grasp.

Go make some Farm sex sites where you belong....

lame

stocktrader23 · 01-29-2004, 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by QuaShe

lame

And stupid.

fuzebox · 01-29-2004, 06:33 PM

It was a good rant, I clicked the sig.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 01-29-2004, 06:35 PM

Quashi...

Goto seximojo to the site take a look.
Ya wanna make all those sites? Over 100 designs tons of banners, thousands of tours in a couple years making things for everyone but yourself?

Ya better put your thinking cap on bud.

Roald · 01-29-2004, 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AlienQ
Quashi...

Goto seximojo to the site take a look.
Ya wanna make all those sites? Over 100 designs tons of banners, thousands of tours in a couple years making things for everyone but yourself?

Ya better put your thinking cap on bud.

You have no idea what I am working on

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 01-29-2004, 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by QuaShe

You have no idea what I am working on

Well just don't turn into that wreck of a life.
I did and it took a while for me to turn it around.

Ironhorse · 01-29-2004, 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AlienQ
Quashi...

Goto seximojo to the site take a look.
Ya wanna make all those sites? Over 100 designs tons of banners, thousands of tours in a couple years making things for everyone but yourself?

Ya better put your thinking cap on bud.

I do actually understand what you're saying and I partially agree with some of your points, I think you could present your thoughts in something other than a rant you'll get a better response.

Yes, I have to work 5 times as hard for the same money in 96, but this hardly applies to the design industry alone. I think people are faling to see the global recession and effects on the industry.

And btw, I've done a hell of other stuff besides sexymojo in the last few years, including alot of mainstream work etc, and I see the same effecs in the advertising industry as I see in porn design, everyone wants more work and wants to pay less money.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 01-29-2004, 07:03 PM

So...
If there are anymore questions about my hatred for wannabe designers, or my "negative attitude" about events in this industry I suggest ya bookmark this bitch and use it for future reference.

Jason · 01-29-2004, 08:32 PM

Just a side note..

Alien has done sites that pushes a freakin grip of signups.

If you ever heard him talk about why shit works.... You'll know.

SykkBoy · 01-29-2004, 09:19 PM

fancy designs are to impress affiliates
hot chicks on the tour are for impressing surfers...

recently we were sending HGH traffic to a totally fucked up page with bad design, pictures misaligned and fucked up codew....yet it outpulled the "fancy" design better than 2 TO 1!

effective design doesn't always mean being a photoshop picasso...effective PROFITABLE design is knowing what sells and having that product....with the hot girls on the tour, the fanciest designs mean little more than dick...

Amputate Your Head · 01-29-2004, 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SykkBoy2
fancy designs are to impress affiliates
hot chicks on the tour are for impressing surfers...

recently we were sending HGH traffic to a totally fucked up page with bad design, pictures misaligned and fucked up codew....yet it outpulled the "fancy" design better than 2 TO 1!

effective design doesn't always mean being a photoshop picasso...effective PROFITABLE design is knowing what sells and having that product....with the hot girls on the tour, the fanciest designs mean little more than dick...

word up.

The mark of an excellent designer, worhty of the title, is the ability to juggle all that and produce the appropriate solution for any given scenario.

Everything else is just bs.

eroswebmaster · 01-29-2004, 09:30 PM

I'm not a gallery designer...I'm a gallery stylist.

There's a reason I have that on my page...some people get it..others don't. ;)

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AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE best designer on GFY Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IALIEN.COM - High Definition Video and Photographic Productions -ICQ 78943384 Posts: 30,307	Dumb Ass Designers... Let me explaine why I hate you. First: You are pawns in a rich man's game. You have no clue of what balance you hold in the fate of companies on almost all levels of design development. What you create is invaluable and often a key to some of the success. However... You usually completely fuck yourselves in the long run. You under charge for your services whether you live in Korea, or the Czech your services are totally cheap and I outsource and take complete advantage of you. Think about that? If a designer referr's out work to you cause your so fucking cheap your doing something wrong or I am doing something right until you realise it. Since 1996 and a bit earlier I have built for and worked for the largest companies the fucking net has ever known. I've helped make many men rich with my work and idea's not just on the design level but on strategic levels as well that involve design. Second: I never got much for it until I started my own things. I am only this biz for maybe another 2 years tops. I got my retirement all set up. I can retire tomarrow and not give a fuck about any of this. All the while most you designers attempting to make way will never be as lucky as me as each of you copy each other and not look at the bigger picture for your own success. I love you dumb fucks otherwise I wouldnt hate on ya. Third: You have no clue about skills needed to help create true success. Optimizing your designs, doing counts of images, the correction of images for use in design. Hows browsers actually read HTML and accelerating download times with crafty coding. Ultimatly your fucked up designs are fucking up great companies. You think "Click here for free access" are the words of god but it is a good example of how retarded most of you are. Fourth: You wannabe designers don't give a fuck about the long term of our industry and the damage you contribute to it. All them scammers out there that have wrecked our industry designs have been supplied to. I have seen plenty of design done for scammers and often I can even identify who the designer is that supplied them. Thats pretty fucked up don't ya think? I do. As a creative individual knowledgeable of the industry you goto know when to say NO. But you don't and contribute to the symphonie of destruction. Fifth: Why the fuck are your reading this? Get the fuck out of here and study up on design. There is no need for you here. You think I give a fuck whether or not my sig gets clicked and I get business from it? Either way I do not care. Busines is business but I do not do the kinda business that fucks up our industry and I certainly do not base my drumming up of good clients on my sig. So again. Learn and read the fucking manual on not only how to design but understand viability of the industry your trying to work in. Sixth: You probly do not understand a fucking thing I said... But if ya did ya might have a little respect for an old timer that stands to help you. You think I crack open photoshop every day? Well I do, but often enough I am relegating out work and teaching other designers how to do shit... So... Suck my cock its not that hard ya just goto pay attention on how shit works to be successful. __________________ NAKED HOSTING FTW!11 I'm On The INSANE PLAN $9.95/mo! \| The Alien Blog Adult News Worth Reading Updated Daily \| Content For Sale! 641 PICS 216 MINUTES OF VIDEO $350.00 \|ICQ: 78943384 \|

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FrankWhite Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: nyc Posts: 3,540	Again you crying

01-29-2004, 06:09 PM	#17
jonasty Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Nor Cal Posts: 126	i feel your pain. kinda. i've been a professional designer since '89. the repugnant shite that passes for design in this industry is incredible. spectacularly jacked up media. my favorite is the print work. damn. i almost get a fucking seizure looking through avn or avnonline. but your comment about the "Click Here..." crap might be misguided. i've had to make stupid looking shit my whole career. i let go of it a long time ago. that "Click Here..." text is probably at the client's request. i can't tell you how many great designs i've mangled for dumb-ass clients. they fail to realize that the reason they hired me is because i'm the designer, not them - if i choose a font or color it's for a reason. i've done my best to explain color theory to as many people as possible. the rainbow is in the same order every time 'cause that's the visible light spectrum. no way around it. i'm going on my own again after next week. i plan to do a large amount of adult design along with some mainstream. i'm going to charge what the work is worth and i'm going to do my best to raise the bar and get more good design out there in spankville.

01-29-2004, 06:25 PM	#30
echodotcom Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: ny Posts: 100	sure they make alot of money

01-29-2004, 06:33 PM	#35
fuzebox making it rain Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: seattle Posts: 22,161	It was a good rant, I clicked the sig.

01-29-2004, 06:35 PM	#36
AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE best designer on GFY Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IALIEN.COM - High Definition Video and Photographic Productions -ICQ 78943384 Posts: 30,307	Quashi... Goto seximojo to the site take a look. Ya wanna make all those sites? Over 100 designs tons of banners, thousands of tours in a couple years making things for everyone but yourself? Ya better put your thinking cap on bud. __________________ NAKED HOSTING FTW!11 I'm On The INSANE PLAN $9.95/mo! \| The Alien Blog Adult News Worth Reading Updated Daily \| Content For Sale! 641 PICS 216 MINUTES OF VIDEO $350.00 \|ICQ: 78943384 \|

01-29-2004, 07:03 PM	#40
AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE best designer on GFY Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IALIEN.COM - High Definition Video and Photographic Productions -ICQ 78943384 Posts: 30,307	So... If there are anymore questions about my hatred for wannabe designers, or my "negative attitude" about events in this industry I suggest ya bookmark this bitch and use it for future reference. __________________ NAKED HOSTING FTW!11 I'm On The INSANE PLAN $9.95/mo! \| The Alien Blog Adult News Worth Reading Updated Daily \| Content For Sale! 641 PICS 216 MINUTES OF VIDEO $350.00 \|ICQ: 78943384 \|

01-29-2004, 08:32 PM	#41
Jason Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 4,287	Just a side note.. Alien has done sites that pushes a freakin grip of signups. If you ever heard him talk about why shit works.... You'll know. __________________ I stay busy. Last edited by Jason; 01-29-2004 at 08:37 PM..

01-29-2004, 09:19 PM	#42
SykkBoy Jesus loves bacon Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Sin City, Motherfucker Posts: 19,969	fancy designs are to impress affiliates hot chicks on the tour are for impressing surfers... recently we were sending HGH traffic to a totally fucked up page with bad design, pictures misaligned and fucked up codew....yet it outpulled the "fancy" design better than 2 TO 1! effective design doesn't always mean being a photoshop picasso...effective PROFITABLE design is knowing what sells and having that product....with the hot girls on the tour, the fanciest designs mean little more than dick... __________________ Support my new movie “The Second Coming”

01-29-2004, 09:30 PM	#44
eroswebmaster March 1st, 2003 Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Seat 4 @ Venetian Poker Room Posts: 20,295	I'm not a gallery designer...I'm a gallery stylist. There's a reason I have that on my page...some people get it..others don't. ;) __________________ For rent - ICQ 127-027-910 Click here for more details