Nothing new??!

He has asked them to call him with verifiable proof...apparently none has?

I just got off the phone with them about 30 mins ago.. call was interrupted by their lawyer.. I'm waiting for them to call me back now.

Way to go thats what needs to be done. :thumbsup


For those of you stating that the proof is in this thread......
wake up he cant call the law infocement with this thread.
You have to call him so he can use it. the posts hear mean nothing in court.

If more will follow...well...who knows...

Norman,

You should be emailing all of your clients letting them know of a possible compromise with your client data.

In my opinion this should have been done back in April when you were contacted about the spam coming to matrix tagged email addresses.

If you really want to be able to do something about this abuse of your customer data, and get your "25 people", then explain to your customers in a mass mailing what may have happened & ask them to review the address information on the Acacia notices they recieved and compare it to their submitted Matrix data looking for any similarities between unique information or typos that were used at Matrix.


How bad do you really want to get to the bottom of this?

Will you email your customers asking for help?

Or is this just a GFY-only thing?

Its also THE LAW to notify us if that is the case or if not we all will have legal recourse.

California Civil Code § 1798.82 ? New Duties to Disclose A "Security Breach"

California has revised its business laws to require notification of customers if a "security breach" leads to the disclosure of customers' personal data. The new law is codified as an amendment to California Civil Code § 1798.82 and takes effect on July 1, 2003. It applies to any person or business that conducts business in California if the entity possesses "computerized ... personal information." If a "breach of the security system" occurs, defined as any unauthorized acquisition of personal data, the business must inform affected persons "immediately" unless law enforcement requests a delay. Consumers have a private right of action under the law for injunctive and civil damages relief, but no specific monetary penalties are suggested.

Catch up on all things acacia at the thread: FTP's Acacia FAQ:

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=191446

Fight the Patent!

Norm,
Before you say your going to get all the people on this board for trying to "slander", as you call it, your company, you got remember the title you put on this post. Let me rewrite it just in case you forgot what you wrote: "Help me prove Matrix's database was used."
Your the one that asked for it so don't get mad at the posts. In my opinion alot of the posts do show that Acacia has your list and your just mad that there is solid proof now.

Dick Shoke

:thumbsup

I just blew Dr. Pepper out my nose after reading that last part - Man if I ran my biz like this I would be outa biz. These are your customers man ( I am one of your customers ) and you tell them... me... to fuck off, I'm going to sue you?????? I'm speachless, don't even know what else to type - I'm gona go watch the Hulk, way more intresting than this BS, this case is now closed for me and you sealed it tight.

Nice attitude there NLB towards people who already feel your lying so then you tell them to go fuck themselves, truely nice professional attitude I must say.

As far as threats towards people for slander...since when is someones beliefs and opinions slander? Not one person here has said anything slanderous that I can see.

Why didn't you show up on the netpond radio show tonight at 10PM cst like everyone said you were going to? You have nothing to tell hundreds of webmasters who put their trust in you and you let them down.

Telling someone to fuck off or saying they were owned is not slander, you migth want to fire your current lawyer and hire one that knows what they are doing.

The proof against you is enormous and in any courtroom if one of these guys sued you, its your responsibility to prove otherwise that you did nto give the list away, and since you have no idea which one of your employees turned on you, how it was hacked or tellign the truth and saying you gave it to acacia, then I guess you can not prove otherwise. Not a good situation for you.

As for me, I don't give a hairy ass fuck who you give my info to, because acacia would have contacted me regardless, because I am a content producer/broker. So do as you wish slander is not a prisonable offense and its very hard to prove, and with some of the webmasters on this board I doubt you would get blood out of turnip (wouldn't by sueing me), so if you wish to spend $5000+ proving someone slandered you or your company to get a whole $100 out of their wallet, have fun doing it.

Oh and by the way, FUCK OFF & PROVE YOUR NOT THE ASS EVERYONE SAYS YOU ARE!!!! :321GFY :321GFY :321GFY

HAHAHAHAHA!!!! NLB OWNED!!!! :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

DMCA = Don't Mind Calling Acacia (w/ customer info department)

Why do we have to call you so we can sit on the phone and listen to you rant and rave how the customer is the dumbfuck and we can't get a word in edge wise? I bought content form you once about 2 years ago, NO VIDEO, and now I get this letter from acacia using the same damn company name you have on fiel for me and the only company that has this name and more then jsut has proved this to you and you sit there with your fucking thumb up your ass saying call me and prove it...what a lameass fucktard (in my opinion - my slander clause)!!!!

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

I recieved all that before the matrix one too, what does that prove? It proves that acacia has other methods like ummm maybe opening IE and surfing soem websites? Maybe hitting ynot and other resource sites seeking company listings? and on and on and on and on and on.....

Norman,
I've read all the posts - and I think onlymovies made a good point .

FYI I haven't received anything yet, but I'm expecting it. From the ones that have settled and it's out in the open, your company would be the only one that I have an account with.

What I'd like to know is:

1) Who sends out your promotional emails?
2) Where is this data kept (your servers or theirs)?
3) Have you ever done a promotional 'mailing' snail mail?
4) If yes, what company and what data was given?
5) What was your arrangement with the company, could they use this data for their benefit?


From the proof shown in the posts, I'd say it's your data.
Whatever way they got it, if you did not authorize the use of it, whoever sold it to them did so illegally. They most likely knew it was illegal - they don't sound like the honest church-going, hard-working folks.

Let's face it, this will hurt your business - I for one, who doesn't buy much content - have bought with 3 companies in 4 years - 90% was spent with your company - Unless I see you take a stand, for your rights, the future of your company or baby, as you so put it, and the rights of your customers & 'passersby' of your shop (who've never purchased anything but had to give you the info anyway) and who's info was compromised - I will not spend a penny at your store ever again - I'm just some dust on the keyboard, but I'm sure the big guys are seeing it the same way-whether their information has been compromised 'no doubt about it' from Matrix or not. If you don't do anything....it doesn't look like you appreciate our business......big or small.

For your company to get through this crisis, you have to stand up for yourself & the people putting the bread & butter on your table. Remember, their intent (AC) was to assfuck you before you settled - we just pay you for your hard work.


I think everyone would appreciate answers not threats and most certainly, no half-answered responses.

We can't help you help yourself if you aren't frank 100% of the possibilites and what can be done to track the exact course these lists obviously took. 'I don't know' just doesn't cut it.

Trixxxia, VERY well said.

Well put.

My experience coupled with the experience of all of the other webmasters that have come forward is more than enough to convince me that Matrix is the culprit. The behavior of Matrix towards webmasters who have had their privacy violated and been betrayed is just more proof of guilt, as far as I'm concerned.

Regarding the DMCA explanation that has been offered: I have to wonder why the "DMCA Department" would have my Matrix registration info. I never bought anything, I only registered (under a unique pseudonym) to look around at the content there.

Here's some more shit to wonder about- Is the mysterious DMCA Department actually APIC?

WOW!!!! More then just matrix is handing out info, I got yet another letter today from Aca"CIA" addressed to my company name Virtual Ventures this time.

I vote for the Do Nothing method and watch these fucks spend all their money and die:)

Here's my story.

Today october 30th on the Island of Nanaimo, I received a letter send to JMan ;-)

It was sent to the xtremepay.com office where I work and It came from Acacia.

About 1 month or so ago. I was shopping for stills of guys with big dick for our big dick pills. Yeah we are mainstream herbal drugs company.

Was also lookinf for girls but all stills.

I had to sign up for an account at matrix.

Think i just figured out why i got this fucking Acacia Propaganda in the mail :321GFY :2 cents:

Yup, just got the ACACIA crap in mail today. I went through all the content and sponsor accounts and only one matched the address, name and company name.

It's no fun anymore to let you guess who it is as it's obvious, :ak47: MATRIX willingly or not provided their customer info to ACACIA.

So here I am with a letter from ACACIA even though I never bought anything form MATRIX....and never will.


:feels-hot

I just remembered this from last week:
We got a letter from Acacia and it was "attention: Tera"

Tera used to be in charge of Content Acquisiton for my company before she headed up Pornprofit and bought much content from the Norman.

I don't know if that's enough proof, just add it to the list.
Did Jon leave because of this? Maybe he didn't want to screw the people that helped feed his kids......hmmmm.

You know what always happens when you make a deal with the devil, you always get FUCKED in the end. Karmas a bitch.

Did Matrix get voted off the island yet?

I am also sure that Matrix database was used. Also, one of my partners recieved a letter and he is a programmer. He only registered once at Matrix and never bought anything and recieved a letter to what was old and unique address info from that time he registered. Not proof of anything... but when looked at within the context of the total number of people claiming the same thing, i would say it is certainly consistent with the only plausible scenario that has been put forth by webmasters.

There is just too much circumstantial evidence pointing to the same source. Not to 5 possible sources or 10... but to one.

I am sure Norman is a great guy and i dont doubt that for a second but if info was gave willingly or not, there should also be accountabilty for what happened not denial and argument.

That is the ONLY reasons his business is being hurt right now.

What ever happened to the official statement that was never given?

the official statment seemed to be that they didnt sell their list, and all these dozens of claims arent solid enough proof their list is being used. And that they had a person come in and analyzed that their system wasnt hacked.

And various other spin and bs.


My personal opinion is matrix isnt bad people, but got doublecrossed in some way and got caught with their pants down. The way they have handled has been bad though.

So what's the latest on this? Any news from matrix?

too bad I never had my call returned

The latest is that Matrix are still sellout fucks, won't stand up here on GFY or anywhere else except for hide behind some newsletters from avn and ynot and such and the assholes are hopefully closing up shop and filing bankruptcy because they are gonna have still pay acacia and won't be getting 80% of the sales they used to get.

(Disclaimer: this is just a personal opinion which is covered under the 1st ammendment law as freedom of speech and opinion)

350 acacia letters

He whined and cried that no one called his ass and then when they did he didn't even have the balls to call back and face the truth, oh well a damn good song comes to mind now:


"ANOTHER ONE BITES THE DUST"

:mad:

I got my ac*cia sales letter a couple weeks later than pretty much everyone. The address matrix has on me is old and anything that was sent there would have been returned to sender. Not hard to figure out that math.